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Quote from: un_rank on November 05, 2024, 01:58:38 PM

The move to City was overstated by the media and I have not seen Ronaldo celebrate against United. Those two points does not show the does not appreciate the club and definitely ETH does not have the class of Ancelotti.

This is Ronaldo celebrating against United, showing his abs to the fans https://youtu.be/ri6GyANMKFA?si=VSEeNgZzaxx1lvij now imagine Henry celebrating like that after scoring a banga against Arsenal.

His move to City failed because City wanted a free transfer deal while Juventus insisted on €25m, dude was also offered to Chelsea before Clearlake Capital went against it. Todd Boehly wanted him. United was his last option.

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There is no guarantee that he did not try that, but he was treated too poorly from the start and the club chose to back the coach every time even though he was wrong a lot. De Gea also takes digs at him, and with the issue with Sancho, not only one player had an issue with his ego.

ETH is terrible at player management, without a doubt, but I prefer managers that don't shit to themselves - ETH obviously told Ronaldo that he wasn't in his plans; this happens all the time. I expected Ronaldo to be professional and move on. Both were wrong at some point

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 01:51:43 PM

Legend who only signed for Manchester united after his move to Manchester city failed ?

Legend who celebrated a goal against united in front of Manchester united fans at old Trafford?

He does not appreciate the club, and everyone will not be like Ancelloti; he is a Real Madrid legend, not a Manchester United legend BTW.

The move to City was overstated by the media and I have not seen Ronaldo celebrate against United. Those two points does not show the does not appreciate the club and definitely ETH does not have the class of Ancelotti.

Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 01:51:43 PM

What he said was nothing but the truth, but he said it to the wrong ears, which was the problem. Granting an interview to talk about how bald your employer is does not show respect. Go to his office and talk shit to his face and bang the door on your way out; that's how real men react at work when their boss is putting shit on them.

There is no guarantee that he did not try that, but he was treated too poorly from the start and the club chose to back the coach every time even though he was wrong a lot. De Gea also takes digs at him, and with the issue with Sancho, not only one player had an issue with his ego.

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Quote from: un_rank on November 05, 2024, 12:56:22 PM

Ronaldo certainly was and is bigger than ETH at the club.
In an interview last season, Ancelotti said he cannot ask Modric to warm up, except he is absolutely certain he is going to play, that's how you show respect to legends at a club. ETH had no clue how to manage big name players and was the one who actually put his ego above the club.

Legend who only signed for Manchester united after his move to Manchester city failed ?

Legend who celebrated a goal against united in front of Manchester united fans at old Trafford?

He does not appreciate the club, and everyone will not be like Ancelloti; he is a Real Madrid legend, not a Manchester United legend BTW.

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What shit did he say or rather what did he say that was factually wrong?
Go and read up how the club kind of did not believe him when he needed time to grieve.

What he said was nothing but the truth, but he said it to the wrong ears, which was the problem. Granting an interview to talk about how bald your employer is does not show respect. Go to his office and talk shit to his face and bang the door on your way out; that's how real men react at work when their boss is putting shit on them.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 12:14:53 PM

Got fired by his employer for nasty behaviour; it's standard practice; we shouldn't pretend as if ETH has the authority to fire a player; no player is bigger than the club or the manager; if he feels you should be substituted into the game in 90+ minutes, you have no say as long as they're paying your wage.

Ronaldo certainly was and is bigger than ETH at the club.
In an interview last season, Ancelotti said he cannot ask Modric to warm up, except he is absolutely certain he is going to play, that's how you show respect to legends at a club. ETH had no clue how to manage big name players and was the one who actually put his ego above the club.

Quote from: Igebotz on November 05, 2024, 12:14:53 PM

If you're my employee and you go around talking shit about my workplace, I'm going to fire you; if you have an issue, come to me first. Crazy how you brought his son's death into this...really?

What shit did he say or rather what did he say that was factually wrong?
Go and read up how the club kind of did not believe him when he needed time to grieve.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 04, 2024, 11:12:20 AM

Enzo to me has been one of our best players this season- haven't you noticed that we've been struggling to create chances in the midfield since Lavia came into the lineup ?

We struggling because we're playing two defensive midfielders but I'll prefer them to Enzo. For Chelsea, I don't think he's a creative midfielder, what creativity has he brought to the team. How many goals, how many assists okay lets talk about him at the midfield, sure he has upgraded from how bad he was before but still gets little impact for his price tag. I'm hearing rumours of him leaving soon ( The Sun report that La Liga leaders Barcelona and Serie A champions Inter Milan are both monitoring Fernandez's situation). Don't you think we'll be better off without him not minding we taking a loss for this one.

Quote from: darxiaomi on November 04, 2024, 07:49:33 PM

Horrible round for me to say the least.

One of my worst too. First I missed the Arsenal game prediction as I thought I have done that, then dropping 2 points on the leaderboard. All hopes aren't loss though as we still have lots of games left to be played and an opportunity to get to the top of the leaderboard. For now lets enjoy the champions league games about to kickoff.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 05, 2024, 10:55:13 AM

I was really close to getting the yellow cap for the first time this season. If Brentford hadn't lost the game in the last minutes yesterday, I would have won the yellow cap. Cry

To be honest, Fulham deserved to win the game. Brentford played very badly after taking the lead and deserved to lose.

My prediction for that match was 2-2 and if I had hit that prediction, I would have won one of the yellow cap in that round. I never thought Fulham would score two goals in the 90+ minutes, and after those two goals, I was expecting Brentford to score to hit my prediction. I feel really sad that they didn't

Hopefully, I can get yellow cap in the next matchday. You too, CLS63! lol By the way, if you don't mind, what's your Superbru username?

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Quote from: un_rank on November 05, 2024, 12:15:51 AM

I do not think Ronaldo disrespected anybody. He was honest in his assessment and there was too much internal issues to blame any one person. He was treated poorly after his child's death, brought on in the dying minutes of a match like a teenager looking for game time and lots more, but we did not get a complaint from him.
It will be something if Amorim turns the team around

Got fired by his employer for nasty behaviour; it's standard practice; we shouldn't pretend as if ETH has the authority to fire a player; no player is bigger than the club or the manager; if he feels you should be substituted into the game in 90+ minutes, you have no say as long as they're paying your wage. Macelo was fired a few days ago for similar horrible behaviour.

If you're my employee and you go around talking shit about my workplace, I'm going to fire you; if you have an issue, come to me first. Crazy how you brought his son's death into this...really?

There's a lot of deadwoods on big wages to be cleared, Amorim has a lot of work to do in January..

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I was really close to getting the yellow cap for the first time this season. If Brentford hadn't lost the game in the last minutes yesterday, I would have won the yellow cap. Cry

To be honest, Fulham deserved to win the game. Brentford played very badly after taking the lead and deserved to lose.

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Quote from: jeremypwr on November 04, 2024, 07:08:36 PM

Congrats to Ulven for winning the Round 10 Yellow Cap

I thought we got 2 yellow caps this round Cool

Quote from: Igebotz on November 04, 2024, 11:12:20 AM

I didn't like how he treated Ronaldo, but ETH did what any coach would have done in his situation for disrespecting the club and fans. I like ETH, and his work at AJAX should not be disregarded; he was simply unlucky, and Manutd at this moment is uncoachable. IMO.

I do not think Ronaldo disrespected anybody. He was honest in his assessment and there was too much internal issues to blame any one person. He was treated poorly after his child's death, brought on in the dying minutes of a match like a teenager looking for game time and lots more, but we did not get a complaint from him.
It will be something if Amorim turns the team around

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Horrible round for me to say the least.

Only 2 correct scores, and i dont know why but in the SB jackpots feature i have 6 correct so i dont know why i made so diferent picks, the only think i know is it was a very bad round for me and i hope to not have another like this.

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Quote from: un_rank on November 03, 2024, 07:32:00 AM

I really have no idea why everyone keeps making excuses for ETH. He was bad, treated players badly, ostracized a legend like CR7 and kept making excuses for each loss in every press conference. Poch was a different case, everyone was surprised when he was sacked cause it was obvious he was building a team despite the situation.

I didn't like how he treated Ronaldo, but ETH did what any coach would have done in his situation for disrespecting the club and fans. I like ETH, and his work at AJAX should not be disregarded; he was simply unlucky, and Manutd at this moment is uncoachable. IMO.

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 03, 2024, 04:46:04 PM

Enzo Fernandes missing that chance set up by Jackson was horrible from him, that dude isn't worth his price tag. Might just be one of the flops been protected in the Chelsea squad. I don't see anything he does. Kudos to Caicedo for smashing in that volley. Sharing a point with United when we meet has become a norm.

Enzo to me has been one of our best players this season- haven't you noticed that we've been struggling to create chances in the midfield since Lavia came into the lineup ?

Edu left Arsenal for two times Champions League winner Nottingham forest. Biggest upgrade to be honest.

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Quote from: slaman29 on November 03, 2024, 07:30:48 AM

I'm supporting Chelsea in this game, but because I like more players in that team now than the players for Manchester United. Rashford and Bruno Fernandes in the last 2 seasons really made me change my mind about their personality, for some reason.

Enzo can do it, don't worry.

He didn't, I won't blame him though for this one because I feel the players let him down. They reacted fast to conceding the goal by getting an equaliser in just 4 mins but that's only the positive thing I take from this game.

What the hell was Sanchez thinking, Hojlund couldn't have scored from that position so he would have just held his position and we won't have conceded that penalty. Maybe things would have turned out differently if Chelsea had scored first. Enzo Fernandes missing that chance set up by Jackson was horrible from him, that dude isn't worth his price tag. Might just be one of the flops been protected in the Chelsea squad. I don't see anything he does. Kudos to Caicedo for smashing in that volley. Sharing a point with United when we meet has become a norm.

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Quote from: Igebotz on November 02, 2024, 04:45:18 PM

Injuries expose managers who lack backup plans, and Arteta clearly does not have one. When Poch and ETH had more than 5-10 first-team players out injured for the majority of previous season and began losing like shit, everyone was on their heels; no one realised the situation was difficult. Poch and ETH are not bad, just unlucky that's my point.

I really have no idea why everyone keeps making excuses for ETH. He was bad, treated players badly, ostracized a legend like CR7 and kept making excuses for each loss in every press conference. Poch was a different case, everyone was surprised when he was sacked cause it was obvious he was building a team despite the situation.

Performing with a fit group of players shows you are a good coach, struggling with a depleted team does not expose the coach, it is just being unlucky as you said.

I should also add that our injury list (from first team players) is not that long and more importantly, they are not long term injuries, every team has players that pick up knocks each week. We have just been bad in key moments of matches, like the draw to City, Brighton and Liverpool.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on November 02, 2024, 06:48:48 PM

I'm kinda glad we lost against Newcastle as it makes this game more important to be won than before although this week (today games) has been just weird, City losing, Arsenal losing, draws everywhere and it's just making me rethink my predictions for tomorrow. I don't want to believe that Man U can hold us to a draw but there are possibilities. New manager bounce not going to help them tomorrow, we aren't getting a defeat against this weak United. It would actually be shameful that we (Chelsea) go to old Trafford and bottle this one.

This is going to be our third big game this season, we have lost two already (against City and Liverpool), losing against united tomorrow will make me doubt/question Enzo qualities for real.

Weird week for sure, but we only had 2 draws, which I feel like is normal every week must be around 2 draws in EPL. I feel like its higher in Serie A and La Liga.

I'm supporting Chelsea in this game, but because I like more players in that team now than the players for Manchester United. Rashford and Bruno Fernandes in the last 2 seasons really made me change my mind about their personality, for some reason.

Enzo can do it, don't worry.

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Quote from: buwaytress on November 02, 2024, 01:39:01 PM

Newcastle odds were 35/10, Bournemouth were a shocking 5/1 -- why I didn't take those bets. Still upsets, for sure, but the odds were stacked less against them than they usually are (Bournemouth, in particular, outshot City 6 to 2 at some point before the equaliser!).

I actually had bets for City to win after they were 1 down. They had to whole 2nd half. But when they conceded the 2nd goal I realized there are no life for my betslip. Liverpool own but it was a double slip.

However, I am happy that we are 2 points ahead than City. Still the whole season ahead but I hope we have something now to look forward and play each game carefully.

I can't decide the winner in the Chelsea match LOL however we know Igebotz is looking forward to all 3 points.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 02, 2024, 03:01:59 PM

Change of manager could affect final score but I cant see any way for Man United to with this match.
They have several missing players, and Chelsea has much better team and goal scorers.
Maybe van Nistelrooy enters as substitue to score goals Grin

I'm kinda glad we lost against Newcastle as it makes this game more important to be won than before although this week (today games) has been just weird, City losing, Arsenal losing, draws everywhere and it's just making me rethink my predictions for tomorrow. I don't want to believe that Man U can hold us to a draw but there are possibilities. New manager bounce not going to help them tomorrow, we aren't getting a defeat against this weak United. It would actually be shameful that we (Chelsea) go to old Trafford and bottle this one.

This is going to be our third big game this season, we have lost two already (against City and Liverpool), losing against united tomorrow will make me doubt/question Enzo qualities for real.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on November 02, 2024, 11:58:41 AM

What do you think about Chelsea match tomorrow? A draw or another upset?

A better time to break the old Trafford curse - there's no better time than now eh... It's going to be a bloodbath but not for us..

Quote from: un_rank on November 02, 2024, 01:20:45 PM

Injury crisis does not expose a manager, it is a difficult time for anyone and one that will affect performance, look at City without Rodri.
About the transfer market, we did terrible business. How did they let Eddie go and leave Jesus, sold ESR, loaned Fabio and brought in Sterling, plus a defender, which was the department we least needed reinforcements in.

Injuries expose managers who lack backup plans, and Arteta clearly does not have one. When Poch and ETH had more than 5-10 first-team players out injured for the majority of previous season and began losing like shit, everyone was on their heels; no one realised the situation was difficult. Poch and ETH are not bad, just unlucky that's my point.

Arteta does not deserve both Eddie and ESR, treated them like shit. Happy for both now..

@buwaytress don't bank on us at Old Trafford Padi.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on November 02, 2024, 06:43:11 AM

Really hoping it’s a comfortable win for Liverpool today, we need to keep up the pressure on Arsenal and Man City.

It was not that comfortable but they managed to win, and it goes in their favor after both Arsenal and Man City surprisingly lost their respective matches.
This was a really tricky round for predictions and fight for the EPL title is more interesting than ever.
If someone told me that Nottingham would be in third place after ten rounds I would never believe them.

Quote from: buwaytress on November 02, 2024, 01:39:01 PM

Chelsea and United? Odds are even, there is no upset here unless it's 5-0 either way...

Change of manager could affect final score but I cant see any way for Man United to with this match.
They have several missing players, and Chelsea has much better team and goal scorers.
Maybe van Nistelrooy enters as substitue to score goals Grin

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Great goal from Salah - give him the contract, those are the individual brilliance that get you trophies.

A day with great upsets. Arsenal to lose with Castle, City just lost with Bournemouth, Liverpool was close but thanks to Salah again. 2 goals 3 minutes turned the match around. It's a big day for us, point table leader, what else we could expect.

What do you think about Chelsea match tomorrow? A draw or another upset?

Newcastle odds were 35/10, Bournemouth were a shocking 5/1 -- why I didn't take those bets. Still upsets, for sure, but the odds were stacked less against them than they usually are (Bournemouth, in particular, outshot City 6 to 2 at some point before the equaliser!).

But yeah, we could have and probably should have lost. We don't have our best keeper, we had our best CB pairing disrupted, I was almost expecting a day of dropped points when our closest rivals lost. Salah, as always, the difference. Ignore his age, he was a late bloomer, his full bloom will last many more years.

Chelsea and United? Odds are even, there is no upset here unless it's 5-0 either way...

What a strange day in Premier League. I think I missed all my bets today except both to score in Leicester game. Jury is still out on Wolves, they have a couple of minutes more to get me the win

Wolves defense with Sa in the team looks tragicomic.

Didn't watch Liverpool but City and Arsenal were really poor today. They lost fair and square.

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