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It was another horrible day for Manchester United today. It was bad for me at the same time because I predicted a win for them in the pool as well. Manchester United are still a miserable team that they lost this match by 4-0. How can they lose to Brentford 4-0? I just can't understand. Erik ten Hag can even get sacked sooner than most people expect. Maybe the root of this problem isn't mainly related to him but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets sacked.
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Such a bad week for me i was 5th at start and now at 40th place thank god its only the second round of the premier league. Mitrovic missed the penalty and that killed my 1.5 points and some unexpected results aswell. Hopefully tommorow i get some points
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the good thing for Man utd fans about this absolute dogshit, catastrophic and humiliating performance from the team today is that the Glazers will have no choice but two either sell the club asap, surely right?

and some Man utd fans were furious cos Ronaldo wanted to leave that sinking ship LOL  Grin he knew what was coming, can't hardly blame him for wanting to spend the last years remaining in his career in a competitive team

and Ten Hag, this guy is getting exposed big time
What a performance from United, I was waiting on both to score on two tickets and when Brentford scored third goal I cashed out on one ticket. I was already suspecting how it will go.

You know what is the state of the club when you are losing 4:0 and you make 3 defensive changes  Grin

Can't wait for local papers and Twitter memes tomorow.
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the good thing for Man utd fans about this absolute dogshit, catastrophic and humiliating performance from the team today is that the Glazers will have no choice but two either sell the club asap, surely right?

and some Man utd fans were furious cos Ronaldo wanted to leave that sinking ship LOL  Grin he knew what was coming, can't hardly blame him for wanting to spend the last years remaining in his career in a competitive team

and Ten Hag, this guy is getting exposed big time
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Well well well what do we got here,yes Manchester United screwing up really really big this time.It is the last time I place a bet on them and also go by them in the pool prediction,after seeing today game against Brentford a not that impressive team in general although it look like a brilliant team tonight I completely see Manchester United fighting for relegation during this year,they of course will be out of every single European competition places with such poor performance.I would also put a lot of blame now on the new coach for this disaster team.

On a side note I made almost 25 places in the pool so overall a good night in the prediction pool for me.
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So. I was adamant Ten Hag wasn't the man, but even I couldn't predict he'd ask his team to do stuff they couldn't do. Caught a snatch of the comical antics in both goals... United trying to play out from the back? When you've got a team completely low and confidence and a certain guy whose name starts with an M and ends in aguire?

Would have gone for a Brentford bet if I could access, hope you guys did bank.

Brentford is on fire!  4-0 only 36 minutes in.  I didn't get around to placing any bets on today's game, but I was thinking of taking Brentford money line.  I figured ManU would struggle today, but I didn't figure they would implode!
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So. I was adamant Ten Hag wasn't the man, but even I couldn't predict he'd ask his team to do stuff they couldn't do. Caught a snatch of the comical antics in both goals... United trying to play out from the back? When you've got a team completely low and confidence and a certain guy whose name starts with an M and ends in aguire?

Would have gone for a Brentford bet if I could access, hope you guys did bank.
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Whatever the outcome, he may not be a member of the Manchester United team; as I previously stated, the fan base does not even want to know the outcome of the judgment because they have already passed one; we are not certain why she did what she did to the man she claims to love and was in a relationship with. We've seen so many false rape accusations, and so many people have spent their lives behind bars as a result of them. We've all seen what happened to Zouma, whose contract was about to be terminated for kicking his OWN cat, but he's still a footballer thanks to Moyes' support.

There used to be a time when people were skeptical about these kinds of stories, and refrained from rushing to judgement.  Thanks OJ!  Roll Eyes

3-1 was my prediction. I scored a close point!

Mine was 1-0 so I scored close points also, but I WANTED EXACT!  lol 

What's going on with the Arsenal game? Why so many goals?

Holy moly.  It's not broadcast here so I was going to wait until the end and catch the highlights, but I couldn't help but peak after reading your comment.  I predicted 2-0 for that one, only results ponts for me.

Manchester City needs to score one more goal to match my exact scoreline.

Lol, I predicted 3-0, so I'm still close points for now.  I actually had 4-0 in that slot up until last night, I decided to go conservative just before I locked my predictions.
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Unfortunately, most Manchester United fans do not want to see him anywhere near the club, and the club is likely to lose some sponsorship deals as a result. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but since he hasn't been convicted, shouldn't we wait for the law to take its place before passing judgment? R.Giggs slept with his brother's wife, John Terry took his teammate's ex-wife, it's hell in football. I'd like to see Mason Greenwood return to the pitch.

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I agree that the court of public opinion should restrain themselves from rushing to judgment.  I only just heard about this drama, and did some searching to learn more, and I can't help but see that girl as a gold-digger.  I'm not discounting the possibility that she's telling the truth, but if their relationship was on the rocks she could have seen this as a way to get revenge or a large payday, or both.  I've seen this far too many times in American sports.

Has he been released to paly for ManU?
Whatever the outcome, he may not be a member of the Manchester United team; as I previously stated, the fan base does not even want to know the outcome of the judgment because they have already passed one; we are not certain why she did what she did to the man she claims to love and was in a relationship with. We've seen so many false rape accusations, and so many people have spent their lives behind bars as a result of them. We've all seen what happened to Zouma, whose contract was about to be terminated for kicking his OWN cat, but he's still a footballer thanks to Moyes' support.

Anyway, what in tarnation just happened with the AV/Everton match?  It looked I was going to get exact points for about 55 minutes, then in the 85th minute things started to get crazy!  Digne with an own goal to bring Everton back in the game?  Dude!  Not that it mattered by then.  It did make for an exciting finish to an otherwise boring game.
3-1 was my prediction. I scored a close point! What's going on with the Arsenal game? Why so many goals? Manchester City needs to score one more goal to match my exact scoreline.
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What about Greenwood? I know about all the shit that happened of the pitch but let's forget about it for the moment. I rellay liked him as a player and I was sure he is going to be big star one day. There isn't many players with his nose for a goal, especially while so young. Is he a product of United youth academy?

I forgot about him already. I dont think he will be back on the field anytime soon and i honestly dont see what club would even take him after that incident. But still what a shame he was a huge talent and the future of manchester united

Unfortunately, most Manchester United fans do not want to see him anywhere near the club, and the club is likely to lose some sponsorship deals as a result. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but since he hasn't been convicted, shouldn't we wait for the law to take its place before passing judgment? R.Giggs slept with his brother's wife, John Terry took his teammate's ex-wife, it's hell in football. I'd like to see Mason Greenwood return to the pitch.

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I agree that the court of public opinion should restrain themselves from rushing to judgment.  I only just heard about this drama, and did some searching to learn more, and I can't help but see that girl as a gold-digger.  I'm not discounting the possibility that she's telling the truth, but if their relationship was on the rocks she could have seen this as a way to get revenge or a large payday, or both.  I've seen this far too many times in American sports.

Has he been released to paly for ManU?


Anyway, what in tarnation just happened with the AV/Everton match?  It looked I was going to get exact points for about 55 minutes, then in the 85th minute things started to get crazy!  Digne with an own goal to bring Everton back in the game?  Dude!  Not that it mattered by then.  It did make for an exciting finish to an otherwise boring game.

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It was a question that obv didn't need an answer.  Lol.  But yeah something is deeply wrong with Man United.  They learned from Liverpool's demise and did everything they could to avoid the same fate.  But 10 years later, here they are...  Suffering the same fate.  What did they do wrong?  It's like they're cursed.

And are you kidding?  Ter Stefen dreadful?  Even if he could be acquired as a free transfer?
I genuinely believe its a hangover from a great manager. It's never easy to replace your manager that has basically become part of the furniture. They usually have some stubborn personalities, and usually do it a little different from the norm. Sir Alex Ferguson commanded respect, so he was able to get away with a lot of things that other managers can't. Same as Klopp when we lose Klopp I genuinely believe we'll go into another dip, unless we have another fantastic manager to back him up. There's hope in Klopp's assistant manager, and Gerrard, but we'll have to see.

Although, Man United problems do seem to extend to the board, and the fact that certain players don't get on with the board at all. Bringing back Ronaldo was probably one of the worst decisions in hindsight, since he has almost tarnished his reputation with the club. He was their legend, and now there's a bitter sweet taste left in the fans mouths.

I believe that's something Klopp is acutely aware off, and I know it's my speculation but that's really why he extended his contract. Agreed with Liverpool they need a succession plan so it doesn't become a rudderless club as soon as he leaves.

Part of me still believes Fergie knew what he was doing. Propped up a goalscorer to paper over everything else (van Persie), left the reins and handpicked Moyes so people would forever see the gulf in managerial quality.

Thankfully not Klopp's style (but as you say, too soon for Gerrard).

We should be worried though. Last time we met when they didn't have local fans, we got trounced 4 goals! #serious?
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Is he in a prison/convicted? I mean my point is either let him live his life or convict him. Shouldn't we all be free until proven guilty? Don't get me wrong, I am not defending him, if he did it he deserves everything that happened.

I don't know the details, but I belive I would have heard if he ended in prison. There was a lot of talk about the case in the beginning and now there is no news so I guess it is in a sort of legal limbo now.

He has not be convicted yet, neither has he been charged to court, last thing I read with few days ago was that he was had is bail extended while the police are still going on with their investigation. Cases such as this usually take a whole lot of time to get over with, It's just similar to that Of Benjamin Mendy of Man City who have been suspend by City due to a similar accusation, although I believe Mendy's trail have began already.
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What about Greenwood? I know about all the shit that happened of the pitch but let's forget about it for the moment. I rellay liked him as a player and I was sure he is going to be big star one day. There isn't many players with his nose for a goal, especially while so young. Is he a product of United youth academy?

I forgot about him already. I dont think he will be back on the field anytime soon and i honestly dont see what club would even take him after that incident. But still what a shame he was a huge talent and the future of manchester united

Unfortunately, most Manchester United fans do not want to see him anywhere near the club, and the club is likely to lose some sponsorship deals as a result. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but since he hasn't been convicted, shouldn't we wait for the law to take its place before passing judgment? R.Giggs slept with his brother's wife, John Terry took his teammate's ex-wife, it's hell in football. I'd like to see Mason Greenwood return to the pitch.

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Cheating does not have the same weight as rape and as such, due to the severity of the accusations, I definitely don't want to see him on the pitch.

Hell, apparently he even threw in some death threats in the mix so I'd say he's quite fucked, both in the head and for the rest of his life.
Is he in a prison/convicted? I mean my point is either let him live his life or convict him. Shouldn't we all be free until proven guilty? Don't get me wrong, I am not defending him, if he did it he deserves everything that happened.

I don't know the details, but I belive I would have heard if he ended in prison. There was a lot of talk about the case in the beginning and now there is no news so I guess it is in a sort of legal limbo now.
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Unfortunately, most Manchester United fans do not want to see him anywhere near the club, and the club is likely to lose some sponsorship deals as a result. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but since he hasn't been convicted, shouldn't we wait for the law to take its place before passing judgment? R.Giggs slept with his brother's wife, John Terry took his teammate's ex-wife, it's hell in football. I'd like to see Mason Greenwood return to the pitch.

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Cheating does not have the same weight as rape and as such, due to the severity of the accusations, I definitely don't want to see him on the pitch.

Hell, he even threw in some death threats in the mix so I'd say he's quite fucked, both in the head and for the rest of his life.
At the age of 20, other professional footballers planned to have a successful career, unlike Greenwood, who was kicked out of the England squad at the age of 19, got kicked out of Manchester United at the age of 20. Most parents are unaware of the significance of sex education at home. Well, I wish him the best of luck; nobody deserved to be raped. I remember a certain case with formal Sunderland star Gun Johnson he's still in prison
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What about Greenwood? I know about all the shit that happened of the pitch but let's forget about it for the moment. I rellay liked him as a player and I was sure he is going to be big star one day. There isn't many players with his nose for a goal, especially while so young. Is he a product of United youth academy?

I forgot about him already. I dont think he will be back on the field anytime soon and i honestly dont see what club would even take him after that incident. But still what a shame he was a huge talent and the future of manchester united

Unfortunately, most Manchester United fans do not want to see him anywhere near the club, and the club is likely to lose some sponsorship deals as a result. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but since he hasn't been convicted, shouldn't we wait for the law to take its place before passing judgment? R.Giggs slept with his brother's wife, John Terry took his teammate's ex-wife, it's hell in football. I'd like to see Mason Greenwood return to the pitch.

Manutd fans reaction to M. Greenwood return

Cheating does not have the same weight as rape and as such, due to the severity of the accusations, I definitely don't want to see him on the pitch.

Hell, apparently he even threw in some death threats in the mix so I'd say he's quite fucked, both in the head and for the rest of his life.
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What about Greenwood? I know about all the shit that happened of the pitch but let's forget about it for the moment. I rellay liked him as a player and I was sure he is going to be big star one day. There isn't many players with his nose for a goal, especially while so young. Is he a product of United youth academy?

I forgot about him already. I dont think he will be back on the field anytime soon and i honestly dont see what club would even take him after that incident. But still what a shame he was a huge talent and the future of manchester united

Unfortunately, most Manchester United fans do not want to see him anywhere near the club, and the club is likely to lose some sponsorship deals as a result. I don't want to sound like a jerk, but since he hasn't been convicted, shouldn't we wait for the law to take its place before passing judgment? R.Giggs slept with his brother's wife, John Terry took his teammate's ex-wife, it's hell in football. I'd like to see Mason Greenwood return to the pitch.

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Yes, you are correct about his technique, and I doubt he would be a starter in any of the top six clubs right now, but what do you expect from a club that lacks a proper DM? McTom is nothing more than a squad depth player. I'm not sure, but I've always liked him; he's fearless and bold, and he has a good long-range shot. Is he a natural DM? Or he was converted

Funnily enough, he played as a striker while he was young.
He had 3 goals in 18 youth games, so I guess he wasn't really a good one Grin

He played as a central mid as well - but his primary position is a defensive one. He's tall, strong and not technically the best, so naturally he is better in the defensive part of the game.
Lol,  And he was promoted to the first team rather than loaned out to Crystal Palace? Rashford is the Academy's most notable product since Ferguson's departure; the rest have been championship-level players. If I recall correctly, Elanga was the Academy's most recent product. He's a flop, for sure. Chelsea, Arsenal, and Liverpool are all performing admirably in this regard. Manchester United should invest more in their academy team; Chelsea has spent nearly €30m on academy players since Todd Boehly took over.
What about Greenwood? I know about all the shit that happened of the pitch but let's forget about it for the moment. I rellay liked him as a player and I was sure he is going to be big star one day. There isn't many players with his nose for a goal, especially while so young. Is he a product of United youth academy?

I forgot about him already. I dont think he will be back on the field anytime soon and i honestly dont see what club would even take him after that incident. But still what a shame he was a huge talent and the future of manchester united
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I genuinely believe its a hangover from a great manager. It's never easy to replace your manager that has basically become part of the furniture. They usually have some stubborn personalities, and usually do it a little different from the norm. Sir Alex Ferguson commanded respect, so he was able to get away with a lot of things that other managers can't. Same as Klopp when we lose Klopp I genuinely believe we'll go into another dip, unless we have another fantastic manager to back him up. There's hope in Klopp's assistant manager, and Gerrard, but we'll have to see.

I wouldn't call managers like Mourinho or Van Gaal bad, these are the best talents you can get for the money in the current market. The bigger problem is the eagerness of the fans and supporters. They want instant result. It took 3 years for Klopp to finally win a trophy at Liverpool. But Man Utd was so accustomed to win titles in Ferguson's era that anything less than that is a bad season for them. Solskjær was doing great but then Ronaldo came and he had to change his plans and it backfired. Now, Tan Hag who is one of the best European managers but already facing backlash after a single loss. Only if fans can remain supportive to him for a season or two like Barca doing with Xavi, he can turn the wheel of United's fortune.

Van Gaal was past his best days when Man United gave him the call and got him in the club.  I think the biggest mistake was hiring the genius Moyes.  It would've been different if they went straight to Mourinho.  He wasn't deteriorating yet at the time and he has always expressed his desire to manage United after Ferguson.  What could have been...  

There were also some words swirling around at the time that Ferguson went to Barcelona to give Guardiola a visit during the latter's sabbatical and to ask him to be the next United manager.  He went to Bayern but I think Pep has always had his eyes set on City after Ferran Soriano and Txiki went there.

Van Gaal I liked him as a coach despite many people not liking him.He tried his best at Manchester United but unfortunately his schemes did not work well for a great team back then at the Premier League (notice I say back then because United is going to lose tomorrow too against Brentford,that is how bad they are currently).Despite this being only the second game of Premier League be ready for some surprise results especially from Man United because Brentford showed great comeback against Leicester in first game and tomorrow they are playing home.

P.S Do not forget to put your predictions as this week looks like it will have difficult games to predict correctly and I predict we will not see a score of 19 in this second week.
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