Topic: Sportsbet.io's English Premier League Football Pool Discussion Thread - page 270. (Read 145650 times)

agree on this, but simply do not find it possible, not sure thst bookies would like joint sponsorships, and open bet seems hard to execute (although would like it)

nevertheless, Premier league has best viewership and that is why here is the most participants, you probably know, are there some users in your pools, that do not participate in Premier league pool, would be interesting to know their reasons, maybe could be used for lower ranked pools

All valid points and somewhat similar to my take on the stuff with couple of exceptions.

There is a gazillion different sports but not so many people on the forum follows them and are willing to pay participation fee. I know since I am running La Liga and Serie A pools that I can only dream about participant numbers you get here. And that isn't so much about money, there is just more interest in Premier League. Maybe the way too go could be American sports or Cricket. Don't follow them personally so it is a bit though for me to judge.

For me the perfect solution would be to have an open bid for sponsorship and that each bookie can throw in their offer. They could be both offers for sole sponsorship and joint sponsorship. Pool captain just picks the best option and we have by far the best solution from players/forum point of view.

Yeah, it's going to be annoying if they go ahead with the same pool. It will effect us both. I'm sure there's actually more chance of them getting more players doing a different pool. Doing the same they will struggle to get many players but any they do is taking away from this one.


As far as I'm aware it's just going to be the same one as this but sponsored by Betnomi instead.


If one person joins your pool and not this one (and vice-versa) then that's one lost user. Having two pools is going to dilute users so instead of us getting 50 players we'll probably end up with 40 and you 10 or whatever. And I don't know what point you're trying to make if/when people stop playing. Doesn't seem to have any relevance.

There's a gazillion different sports and leagues you could do pools for. There are also several other pools already running that you could sponsor that probably don't have any currently or have very little in the pot. Or just do the fantasy pool. Fantasy pools are much more popular in general as that's what most football fans already do. Because nobody else is doing one currently as far as I'm aware you'd probably get more users signing up to that as opposed to a competing PL pool with this one.

Nah, no more pools for me. I tried fantasy last season and lost interest or effort very quickly, despite doing pretty well actually initially. This is still the best for me, picking scores takes up far less time. If I had a different job/life, maybe I'd play fantasy much more for sure.

Also, I feel like I prefer the conversations in the original pools than the ones in other threads. That's just personal.


I am considering an outright on Leeds to finish top 6 and relegate, both are currently above 10/1. Just don't want to tie up too much money on season-long bets.

6 weeks? You don't trust yourself to remember huh But nah,

@CryptopreneurBrainboss Why are people trying to school me on my own club? I'll thank you like I thank everyone else not at the club for their input, I guess. I hope you posting here means you're joining the EPL football pool though like igehhh at least? Or am I just getting your 2 cents with no future banter to look forward to?

You are right absolutely but it was a team decision,maybe a wrong one but Liverpool made their choice over Mane to keep Salah there with them.We don't know how things will be in this upcoming season which starts just after more than couple of weeks from now but Mane for himself did a great signing with Bayern Munchen and in Bayern he will have a lot of possibilities to score an extreme number of goals because Bundesliga is clearly much easier to play for any player compared to the Premier League.

Sorry but let me just drop some thoughts on this issue. It's quite obvious Mane is the least favorite when you bring up the debate in the Liverpool camp between him and Salah. Liverpool were ready to break the clubs salary structure for Salah but couldn't up Mane's salary after all that Mane has done for the team clearly justify him leavings the club was the right decision. They don't appreciate him that much and doing all you said doesn't justify anything. I'm pretty sure more would had been done if it was Mo Salah in Mane's position. He would had been worshiped as usual.

Mane has always been in Mo Salah's shadow even when he's the better man. Many have advise him to leave the club but he kept building with the team. You think Liverpool would had been were they are without Mane's input into the team. You're a fan and I'm sure you see all the works Mane put into his art. That guys is an African idol and shoudn't be treated like he has at Liverpool. I'm glad he left as now if he does as good as he was doing, he will be appreciated more. Already the AFCON showed Mo Salah is now where near him. I just hope you guys go somewhere without him this season. Don't forget he started the whole rebuilding of Liverpool.

I haven't made my payment either, but I'll definitely be joining, just might take a while, but I'm most definitely going to participate.

I really don't know what Man City saw in him to be honest, but what would you expect, he's an English players (insert John Stones, Maguire and Grealish deals).

I agree with you. It's something similar like broadcasting rights of tournament. Someone who comes first or offer most money, they win it.
Though, fantasy pool sounds like a good idea. Probably I wouldn't join it because of lack of time, but I think there would be enough interest for it.
P.S. Missed news about Betnomi pool. Do they plan to run it on Superbru or on their own website?

If I were to make a early prediction, based on the recent outgoings of Leeds, I'd say they're going down this season. They'll be relying on Bamford (if he's still there?) to keep them up, and quite frankly Bamford is easily nullified.

Phillips is a great player, and I know there's usually a lot of hype around English players, but I genuinely think he's a good player, and would suit any mid table team or back up for one of the top eight. I wouldn't agree that he is overrated, and definitely isn't the most overrated English player in the league.

Also, I think I've filled up until round 6 at the moment? That should give me some leeway. Filling out the whole season, without knowing form, was pretty difficult I'll be honest. So, many things change during the course of a season, I'll just have to set a reminder.

I don’t think there’s any need for another PL pool on the forum. As others have said it dilutes sign ups to both. I dunno, I just think as sportsbet.io has been sponsoring the PL pool for a number of years now, maybe Betnomi should find something else to sponsor & make their name in another sport here.

My fantasy team is already picked and I am ready to take your money

Problem with multiple pools is not that it will limit membership, it is in discussion here on the forum. Talking from the top of my head, we already have Premier League thread, another self moderated Premier League thread and this pool. If we add one more, that is 4 topics about 1 thing. As long as both pools use Superbru it is just the question of fee, there is no extra workload involved in participating in multiple pools. I believe majority of us wouldn't have problem with that.

For instance I am playing about 10 fantasy leagues this season, it is just one team from my side.

Fantasy Pool - Will be (0.05 btc). But there will likely be another PL pool, with a competing budget. I would love to see a pooled pool (with a big budget of 0.5 btc) but we live in the real world and we need to understand that companies like Sportsbet or Betnomi put something tangible into user endeavours, in order to get marketing returns. You yourself perfectly understand that none of these companies will agree to a common pool for obvious reasons.

In addition, I don’t think that there is a question of competition here, since users will have a double chance to take a prize, because, as I said earlier, in any of the pools there is a tendency when users stop making predictions because they understand that they will not get to the prize. Do not forget that it is thanks to healthy competition that the budgets of such events will become larger and larger every year, which will undoubtedly attract even more users.

I would definitely like to join a pool like this. I hope that we can gather enough interest in a pool like this one as well. As you have indicated too, two pools having the same formats with each other would be no use other than dividing the prize pool. I'm not fully sure but I assume that Trofo was interested in fantasy football pools closely.

Is anyone interested in a fantasy pool? I know a few people have expressed interest in the past and I think even one or two said they would prefer it to the predictor. Reason I ask is it looks like Betnomi are going to be doing their own pool and it seems silly to have two competing pools running so I suggested they do a fantasy one instead. Hopefully there's enough interest for a fantasy pool because having another PL pool running is going to severely effect new members joining this one.


He's not over-rated. He's underrated if anything. He was one of the best if not the best players for England during the Euros. As for money, all players are overvalued these days but if Harry Maguire is worth 90 million then that's a steal for Phillips. Leeds' squad has took a pretty big hit with Raphinia leaving today. They'll probably be fighting relegation all season again if they don't make good use of all that money they just got.

@igehhh That's a lot of things for anyone to be aware of!

Call me a fool and you the superfan but the Club changing their icon temporarily to Senegal colours, posting a full Banner of Mane saying congratulations minutes after he won, and me reading the Mane man of tournament report on our official website... were they supposed to fly a plane and banner and build a statue for him?

I'm really not aware of social media stuff, and I'm happy to be completely ignorant and unaware as I enjoy my life and enjoy my football.

Anyway, moot point, there's tribalism but there's clubism (I made the word up) and everything else is just noise. Glad there are people reading more into stuff than there is =)

Are you aware of how Liverpool treated Mane after he won Salah and became AFCON champion? Are you aware that Liverpool never congratulated Mane, Salah is placed above every other player on the team, and his opinion is superior to the other players'.

Are you also aware that the entire Senegalese community wanted Mane to leave the club? And Mane confirmed it, saying he would do whatever his country wanted! Mane was not receiving the same amount of love and energy he was giving to the club.

Liverpool broke the bank to make Salah the highest-paid player in club history, but couldn't raise Mane's salary by a few percent?

Mane and Salah were never brothers; they were simply professional teammates on the field.

 Bayer first tweet was to congratulate Mane for winning AFCON. A dip at Liverpool.

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Chelsea has signed Raheem Sterling and Koulbaily, Todd Boehly is cooking!

I want every Liverpool and Manchester United fan's apologies to be as loud as your disrespect was!   when the time is right

I know but isn't it right for him to be the main man of Liverpool as he is being paid the biggest amount that Liverpool has ever spent for a player in their history in contract,that 400.000 Gbp weekly.They will want to make good use of it and not let Salah adapt but let others adapt in the favor of Salah.If I were the coach this is what I would be doing,trying to find the harmony of all team members but especially I would be concerned more about the harmony of the main player of Liverpool which in these last couple of years has always been Salah.This is just my opinion,Nunez maybe a great striker and maybe Salah can play really comfortably as a wing man but if they do like that,I am afraid they have to forget the title fight against Manchester City.

I've always said this about forwards: you do need to be selfish, at the right times. If you've watched enough games where you're getting 10 chances and they're trying to pass it into goal rather than just shoot, then you know how frustrating it can be. I loved Firmino because he was a foil, but if you play him alone, he's just trying to get everyone else to score instead of trying. That's where/why Salah and Mane were so good, they were selfish enough, and competitive.

So yes, the "downside" is you can get at each other, both trying to score. Anyone who plays also knows the frustration of seeing someone miss when the seemingly obvious option was you -- and that happened with Mane/Salah.

But it's the right kind of selfishness. The assists they both got speak for themselves, and btw, Mane/Salah assist-goal tally was the highest in the league for the 5 years they played together. Only Son/Kane got more in the last 2 seasons, but they operate as a front-two, whereas Mane/Salah are (usually) wingers.

Also, you should watch the AFCON scenes, Mane and Salah as victor/loser, that's where you see the true brotherhood. They had their bad times, as all brothers-in-arm do. I even seen Hendo get worked up with Trent, or with Fabinbo or Thiago, but I would never go so far as to say there was bad blood. In the end, it actually worked for the team rather than against.


The minute Klopp sees this as a problem, he'll fix it. He's not afraid to take players down a peg or two or give them time to cool their head.

I am not really sure about this to be honest. When Liverpool played with Firmino, Salah and Mane were the actual strikers. Same was with Jota - but it was already seen last season with Mane centrally that he occupied a part of the space where Salah wants to be.

Nunez is a proper no. 9 player. He is a pure striker that will want that space for himself and Salah will be forced to play more like a winger and less like the main target man. We'll see how he'll adapt to the role, hopefully he'll be better than he was at the end of last season.

Now Salah has all the possibilities to become Golden Boot of the Premier League running undisturbed from competition to score as many goals as he can.The team now without Mane will most probably be playing heavily to assist Salah and score goals to win the games.This is normal behavior from any team when you have a star player like Salah playing for you,Liverpool bypassed all limits and borders when offered him the new contract at 400.000 Pound weekly so I believe it is a sure thing the team will focus heavily to assist Salah.

Most of the time when a team has two star players,they usually end up not winning the league because of misunderstandings from both the players,while in Premier League this is not so common,trust me in Italy this is a massive phenomena which has cost the title to Inter Milan several times.