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Quote from: Welsh on July 21, 2022, 09:44:41 AM

It's funny an article like that comes up though, as that was my exact thoughts. I've watched a bit of Haaland play, and he is very injury prone, and doesn't seem to like super aggressive players. Well, in the Premier League with the physicality, but also the schedule he's going to find it very difficult. I actually think City are weaker now, than they were last season. Call me crazy if you want Cheesy

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If Manchester City's medical staff can keep him healthy, he could surprise everyone this season. There have been several cases where injury-prone players move to a new team and become non-injury prone, such as RVP, who barely played 20 games a season at Arsenal before moving to Manchester United, where he was unstoppable for two good seasons without any serious injury. Hazard is another example; he spent 7 years at Chelsea and was injured only 6 times before moving to Real Madrid and becoming more prone to injury. Environmental and weather conditions also play a vital role.

If Manchester City's medical facilities and staffs are good, Halaand can be properly managed.

Quote from: Trofo on July 22, 2022, 03:09:56 PM

He is a top class manager and he knows it. That is why he always has the need to do something even if it would be better to sometimes just let the players play their game. You can't play every game in the league in attacking formation and then try to defend in most important game of the season against team like Real in CL. Your players are not used to that, no matter how much you trained that in last couple days, and it can only add to the panic.

Pep will continue to struggle in the Champions League until he realizes that attacks only win games and defenses win trophies. A good manager must know when to attack and when to defend.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 22, 2022, 05:36:01 AM

I actually find Guardiola quite baffling at times. It seems like he's always tinkering his team, even when he shouldn't be. Putting them in weird positions, and changing the game up when they were beating Real Madrid. I don't know, there's times, and places to change up your tactics, but he just seems to do it whatever the occasion is.

He is a top class manager and he knows it. That is why he always has the need to do something even if it would be better to sometimes just let the players play their game. You can't play every game in the league in attacking formation and then try to defend in most important game of the season against team like Real in CL. Your players are not used to that, no matter how much you trained that in last couple days, and it can only add to the panic.

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Look, I don't want to get too excited, but I'm pretty sure we have the best player in the world in Nunes. After watching him play yesterday, I've since changed my score predictions of every Liverpool game to at least five goals scored. Obviously, I'm kidding. Nice to see him open his goals count with us though, even if it's just a friendly.

Quote from: Harkorede on July 21, 2022, 10:20:36 AM

If there's any thing I've learnt from Guardiola teams, it's their ability to always do well even when their supposedly best players isn't available,

To be fair, they do have unlimited money, and they just pour into the team every season. I think it's only Foden who has actualy been developed. Obviously, they have some of the best facilities around, so you would expect them to have more youth coming through, but Foden is really the only noteworthy one.

I actually find Guardiola quite baffling at times. It seems like he's always tinkering his team, even when he shouldn't be. Putting them in weird positions, and changing the game up when they were beating Real Madrid. I don't know, there's times, and places to change up your tactics, but he just seems to do it whatever the occasion is.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 21, 2022, 09:44:41 AM

Quote from: Trofo on July 21, 2022, 08:00:58 AM

I just read one article that says something on the line that Haaland choose City over Real because Pep promissed him he will never be forced to play when not 100 % ready after injury while he would need to prove himself immediately in Real. He is a player that had a lot of injuries last season and there could be truth in that.

If that is so than I expect Haaland to have his minutes managed a lot and maybe have smaller impact then we thought at first. Almost like he is squad rotation player and not indispensable to the club. Totally opposite of what most players look for when changing the club.

I haven't seen that article or any talk around it, but I did say a few pages back that I expect Haaland to have the impact that Aguero did. Brilliant when he plays, but ultimately out injured a lot of the season. A bit like Sturridge for anyone that's watched his career. Probably one of the most gifted players in the league at his heights, but not only did he have injury problems, he was also accused of not pushing through them. I think Gerrard in his book alluded to that.

It's funny an article like that comes up though, as that was my exact thoughts. I've watched a bit of Haaland play, and he is very injury prone, and doesn't seem to like super aggressive players. Well, in the Premier League with the physicality, but also the schedule he's going to find it very difficult. I actually think City are weaker now, than they were last season. Call me crazy if you want Cheesy

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If there's any thing I've learnt from Guardiola teams, it's their ability to always do well even when their supposedly best players isn't available, Guardiola tends to divided the responsibility somewhat evenly between his players so it's hard to get in horrendous form simply because a player sometimes or two isn't playing, there was a time when Yaya Toure seemed to be his best player, then there was talk that the team wouldn't be as good without David Silva, or Fernandinho, but both players also became surplus to requirement without City losing much of its supposed competitiveness in the league, two-three seasons ago all eyes were on Raheem Sterling and, fast forward to last season he was on the bench even in very important games, later on De Bruyne have also become a vital part of the squad, but without him the team still thrives, now Foden seemed to have it all together, so my point is Haaland wouldn't have much problem finding his feet in Guardiola's team it is all just going to be a matter of how he choose best he fits into his plan, and with Guardiola way of rotating his squad, Haaland shouldn't too many injury troubles.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 21, 2022, 08:00:58 AM

I just read one article that says something on the line that Haaland choose City over Real because Pep promissed him he will never be forced to play when not 100 % ready after injury while he would need to prove himself immediately in Real. He is a player that had a lot of injuries last season and there could be truth in that.

If that is so than I expect Haaland to have his minutes managed a lot and maybe have smaller impact then we thought at first. Almost like he is squad rotation player and not indispensable to the club. Totally opposite of what most players look for when changing the club.

I haven't seen that article or any talk around it, but I did say a few pages back that I expect Haaland to have the impact that Aguero did. Brilliant when he plays, but ultimately out injured a lot of the season. A bit like Sturridge for anyone that's watched his career. Probably one of the most gifted players in the league at his heights, but not only did he have injury problems, he was also accused of not pushing through them. I think Gerrard in his book alluded to that.

It's funny an article like that comes up though, as that was my exact thoughts. I've watched a bit of Haaland play, and he is very injury prone, and doesn't seem to like super aggressive players. Well, in the Premier League with the physicality, but also the schedule he's going to find it very difficult. I actually think City are weaker now, than they were last season. Call me crazy if you want Cheesy

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 21, 2022, 08:21:38 AM

Quote from: Trofo on July 21, 2022, 08:00:58 AM

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If that is so than I expect Haaland to have his minutes managed a lot and maybe have smaller impact then we thought at first. Almost like he is squad rotation player and not indispensable to the club. Totally opposite of what most players look for when changing the club.

it is really great for Pep to have unlimited funds, so he can promise top players that they do not need to play every match

not sure how things are going to turn out in the end, but buying Haaland to keep him on the bench is hilarious

nevertheless, I still think that City will take title this season pretty easy, so probably there will be a lot of room for Haaland to enjoy time at the club, without pressure to actually play

That is all to be seen (insert evil Liverpool fan laugh here).I think that chances are high for Manchester City to win the title but the fact that they have such a big number of star players may turn into boomerang to them,from being self complacent the team may lose points to weaker teams,it has happened to even bigger teams than Manchester City so I would not be surprised if it happens.It depends then on the other teams to not screw up the games that they will play against weaker opponents in order to be ready and fight and why not win the title.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 21, 2022, 08:00:58 AM

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If that is so than I expect Haaland to have his minutes managed a lot and maybe have smaller impact then we thought at first. Almost like he is squad rotation player and not indispensable to the club. Totally opposite of what most players look for when changing the club.

it is really great for Pep to have unlimited funds, so he can promise top players that they do not need to play every match

not sure how things are going to turn out in the end, but buying Haaland to keep him on the bench is hilarious

nevertheless, I still think that City will take title this season pretty easy, so probably there will be a lot of room for Haaland to enjoy time at the club, without pressure to actually play

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Quote from: Welsh on July 21, 2022, 07:09:13 AM

Obviously, City getting Haaland is big, but I don't think it's going to have as big of an impact that a lot of people are expecting.

I just read one article that says something on the line that Haaland choose City over Real because Pep promissed him he will never be forced to play when not 100 % ready after injury while he would need to prove himself immediately in Real. He is a player that had a lot of injuries last season and there could be truth in that.

If that is so than I expect Haaland to have his minutes managed a lot and maybe have smaller impact then we thought at first. Almost like he is squad rotation player and not indispensable to the club. Totally opposite of what most players look for when changing the club.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 21, 2022, 06:01:51 AM

I'm always with a Pool 2+ goal win, but at least I'm no longer doing 3-0 by default. Could I be made to regret that?

Unless it's bottom tier teams, then I usually go for the 1-0. To many times I've seen us light up the league, to only get a goal against bottom tier or worse yet, lose 1-0. I don't know about you though, I'm quietly confident about our chances again this season. It seems a lot of the rival fans are already writing us off, which is a little weird. Mane wasn't the only player in our team, and it isn't exactly like we haven't replaced him. I do think being that underdog suits us too.

Obviously, City getting Haaland is big, but I don't think it's going to have as big of an impact that a lot of people are expecting.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 20, 2022, 04:15:38 PM

I'll see how it goes, I've obviously got Liverpool winning every single game in that period by at least two goals, as standard. So, we'll see how it goes Cheesy

. Also got Manchester United losing or drawing every game, so from where I'm standing it looks sound Tongue

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That's the spirit! You just might end up on top after you come back from expedition like this. If I'd stuck to that more often last season I could have gathered a lot more points too.

And I know we should probably underestimate Spurs as well.

I'm always with a Pool 2+ goal win, but at least I'm no longer doing 3-0 by default. Could I be made to regret that?

@Harko yeah I prefer them to hype United up, but surely you remember the pre-season hype with Ronaldo and Sancho coming in too right? Ten Haag is apparently instilling discipline into the team, so that's bad news for the rest of us. I was really happy United had become a rabble of stars, but now seems they're going to have to at least start turning up to meals and training on time (a given at most other clubs but apparently not under Ole or even Rangnick).

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Quote from: Harkorede on July 20, 2022, 10:30:49 PM

Quote from: Welsh on July 20, 2022, 04:15:38 PM

Also got Manchester United losing or drawing every game, so from where I'm standing it looks sound Tongue

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Going by how their last few preseason games have gone, I'm sure Man United fans would definitely disagree with you, Ten Hag is getting them super hyped up, they're currently 3 wins from 3 preseasons games including one against Liverpool, at least I streamed the highlights of their last one against Crystal Palace and it was quite some interesting stuff from them. All of their goals Guardiola's-teams-esque type of goals, so there might be something to look forward to.

That together with Cristiano which most likely is staying at Manchester United this year although there is time for him to leave if that is what he really wants,are making Manchester look quite different compared to the last season where we saw a lot of inconsistency and even some dramatic lost games against weaker teams with results like 0-3 and even worse sometimes.

If Manchester United or any other team from the Premier League joins the title fight,also Arsenal looking good by winning a couple of games so far in pre-season,it means that the Premier League will be as beautiful as one time where not only two but several teams were fighting for the title.

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Quote from: Welsh on July 20, 2022, 04:15:38 PM

Also got Manchester United losing or drawing every game, so from where I'm standing it looks sound Tongue

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Going by how their last few preseason games have gone, I'm sure Man United fans would definitely disagree with you, Ten Hag is getting them super hyped up, they're currently 3 wins from 3 preseasons games including one against Liverpool, at least I streamed the highlights of their last one against Crystal Palace and it was quite some interesting stuff from them. All of their goals Guardiola's-teams-esque type of goals, so there might be something to look forward to.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 19, 2022, 01:26:00 PM

Oh for sure, I'm also on the road for about two weeks and then dubious internet for following 2 weeks -- trip delayed from 2020. Expedition always makes me think of long blissfully lonely trips. I haven't been completely alone since 2016, sort of miss it. Enjoy!

Forum's always alright with even poor data, sometimes it's the only thing I can do (typing out a response on phone is a bit of a nightmare but am so used to it don't even think of now).The heat, yes... probably not as bad as the UK but shitty enough I've been in a daze since yesterday.

Might be surprised by what you can score without bias of injury and suspension and form and bookie odds...

Yeah, I'll be gone for around three weeks. I probably won't be logging in, as I don't like using my account on potentially insecure connections, even with VPN etc. Also, the part of the world I'm going to his incredibly remote, so electric isn't always easy to come by let alone internet. I'll have a sat phone, but other than that I'll be doing a digital detox somewhat.

I'll see how it goes, I've obviously got Liverpool winning every single game in that period by at least two goals, as standard. So, we'll see how it goes Cheesy

. Also got Manchester United losing or drawing every game, so from where I'm standing it looks sound Tongue

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Quote from: Welsh on July 19, 2022, 12:45:20 PM

Quote from: buwaytress on July 17, 2022, 03:13:09 AM

Really counting the days to this league, seriously. Might actually miss first few games as on hectic travel schedule -- travelling now is such a bad idea

Do what I've done, and basically guess well ahead of schedule. That way you'll probably be like me, and get one point rather than zero. I'm actually probably going to put in some more predictions this week, since I'm away from my office, so I'll have a little more time to do recreational things rather than work. Although, I'll definitely be looking to make the most of this bloody hot weather we have too.

I've already predicted the rounds that I know I'm going to be away on a expedition. I definitely don't expect to get any scores correct there, as I have no idea how teams will be looking with form, injuries etc.

Oh for sure, I'm also on the road for about two weeks and then dubious internet for following 2 weeks -- trip delayed from 2020. Expedition always makes me think of long blissfully lonely trips. I haven't been completely alone since 2016, sort of miss it. Enjoy!

Forum's always alright with even poor data, sometimes it's the only thing I can do (typing out a response on phone is a bit of a nightmare but am so used to it don't even think of now).The heat, yes... probably not as bad as the UK but shitty enough I've been in a daze since yesterday.

Might be surprised by what you can score without bias of injury and suspension and form and bookie odds...

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 17, 2022, 03:13:09 AM

Really counting the days to this league, seriously. Might actually miss first few games as on hectic travel schedule -- travelling now is such a bad idea

Do what I've done, and basically guess well ahead of schedule. That way you'll probably be like me, and get one point rather than zero. I'm actually probably going to put in some more predictions this week, since I'm away from my office, so I'll have a little more time to do recreational things rather than work. Although, I'll definitely be looking to make the most of this bloody hot weather we have too.

I've already predicted the rounds that I know I'm going to be away on a expedition. I definitely don't expect to get any scores correct there, as I have no idea how teams will be looking with form, injuries etc.

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Quote from: Igebotz on July 17, 2022, 03:39:28 PM

The smallest club in London will never sing the CL winning anthem. I hope Conte leads you to some silverware! He's a winner; the club should support him and give him time to integrate the players.

That may be so but at least if and when we do win something,,, the achievement will be so much sweeter to savor for club and for fans

I believe there is a huge difference in the kinds of celebrations you can see on the faces of players and supporters when their club is expected to win things and when their club is not.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 17, 2022, 04:56:17 AM

Hey man, thanks! I guess I missed that post, sorry.
You can send it here: bc1qdwqtqyg0qfnevjp5xghjcjy0r7g8pdfspjq6tv

I'm gonna put it all on LFC to win it next year Cool

too bad decision. wasted money Wink

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Quote from: leea-1334 on July 17, 2022, 02:35:02 AM

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Sorry for a bit of OT, but where is the old CL pool? I actually think I should have won something in that one Grin

It is never off topic when we are all in the same pools and CL is anyway related to EPL in a kind of way hehe. The topic is here, which I realized also now after visiting it I did not look at it since May! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinnewscoms-uefa-champions-league-football-preditor-pool-discussion-thread-4919683

I believe all prizes were paid, but go contact buwaytress if he did not pay you Wink

I just looked it up and there isn't much information as to when the next round of the pool begins, and I'm also aware that the Champions League this season will begin a little late, but I'd love to join because I'm a huge fan of the CL. My club (Chelsea) is taking part, and I believe we have a good chance of winning this season.

Wait! Is there going to be two CL pools this season? Icopress said he was going to host for Betnomi, correct? Are you hosting one as well, buwaytress? Please provide me with some information.

Quote from: leea-1334 on July 17, 2022, 02:35:02 AM

Oh and CL also my favorite. Even if Spurs play in Europa I prefer to watch CL if my team does not play!

The smallest club in London will never sing the CL winning anthem. I hope Conte leads you to some silverware! He's a winner; the club should support him and give him time to integrate the players.

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Quote from: buwaytress on July 17, 2022, 03:13:09 AM

Hey cryptofrka yeah I just checked and you didn't get back to me with an address as requested in this post, sorry that slipped, but you know, I'm a busy guy heh. Just ping me with an address, you won 1 mbtc from that one. Halab and Harkorede did it rightaway so they're settled.

Hey man, thanks! I guess I missed that post, sorry.
You can send it here: bc1qdwqtqyg0qfnevjp5xghjcjy0r7g8pdfspjq6tv

I'm gonna put it all on LFC to win it next year Cool

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Really counting the days to this league, seriously. Might actually miss first few games as on hectic travel schedule -- travelling now is such a bad idea, but no choice, the world is all messed up... 4 different contact tracing apps, my data is now floating around in the ether with 4 governments not exactly known for their sensitivity to personal data. All just to get home and renew some long-expired docs!

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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 16, 2022, 04:45:01 AM

Sorry for a bit of OT, but where is the old CL pool? I actually think I should have won something in that one Grin

It is never off topic when we are all in the same pools and CL is anyway related to EPL in a kind of way hehe. The topic is here, which I realized also now after visiting it I did not look at it since May! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinnewscoms-uefa-champions-league-football-preditor-pool-discussion-thread-4919683

I believe all prizes were paid, but go contact buwaytress if he did not pay you Wink

Hey cryptofrka yeah I just checked and you didn't get back to me with an address as requested in this post, sorry that slipped, but you know, I'm a busy guy heh. Just ping me with an address, you won 1 mbtc from that one. Halab and Harkorede did it rightaway so they're settled.

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