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Anyway spot on on another 0-0 game, I would never have thought to put that even if going for a draw!

You win some you lose some. 0-0s are probably the riskiest scoreline to go for. Probably the rarest I would have thought too, but sometimes they pay off. I really couldn't pick a winner in that fight and couldn't see any goals so it had to be a bore draw for me.

Talking about 0-0's being deceptive, I thought Crystal Palace played well, and had multiple chances to score. I thought Leeds were poor, and in the end they probably got lucky with the point. I'll never bet against Palace at home, they're a completely different team, and they have one of the best atmosphere's in English football.


They played better than Leeds that's for sure. I watched it and don't even recall Leeds having a shot on target.

Todays game is a hard one to pick. Think I'll have to go for a draw on that one as well. I'm sure there will be goals but I could also see them both cancelling each other out as well.
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And this why I had my reservations about Gerrard coming rightaway to EPL (he has a license upgrade above Lamps) -- though I think Villa is a good fit to cut his teeth. I hope he knows (and I'm sure he does) he needs to earn his CV first. Rangers was a great step but it's not quite enough just yet. License is one thing. Experience another. Even Rooney I would say is a more proven manager than Lamps -- but not sexy enough a name for a club like Everton?


Rooney would be a great fit, I cannot find any reason for anyone to be against him in the club, although his result with Derby is similar to Everton faith, just going from Championship to Division 1
nevertheless, looking at the schedule, there is not much to hope for, we play last round with Arsenal, that will fight for CL, and we need good point advantage prior to that match, but there is no easy schedule, except Watford and Crystal Palace at home, all teams are in good shape

Burnley has solid schedule, and Leeds seems to be our main chance to avoid relegation
maybe we could see some points over Chelsea on weekend, it is on Lampard account to play that one with his old club
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there is obviously some issue with Lampard, and players are more willing to visit Championship (or team to visit Championship, because most will just go away), than to see Lampard succeed in avoiding relegation

I've mixed feelings about guys like Lamps. He did favourably at Chelsea but there was a deep, deep squad of talent to work with. And I honestly feel that clubs these days aren't willing to look at managers and take a chance with them the way they do with players.

I mean, Lamps didn't have a good managerial CV. He didn't even have the proper licenses for an EPL club (if I recall correctly, his license is actually only typical for reserve squad or 2nd-tier in top leagues).

And this why I had my reservations about Gerrard coming rightaway to EPL (he has a license upgrade above Lamps) -- though I think Villa is a good fit to cut his teeth. I hope he knows (and I'm sure he does) he needs to earn his CV first. Rangers was a great step but it's not quite enough just yet. License is one thing. Experience another. Even Rooney I would say is a more proven manager than Lamps -- but not sexy enough a name for a club like Everton?

I'm not even being hyper critical because they're a rival. Toss that aside they are genuinely one of the worst teams to watch in the Premier League. At least Burnley do have a bit of bite to them. It doesn't help that I really dislike Richardlison as a football player, pretty much everything he does on that football pitch annoys me, but I guess that's part of his quality, he can wind people up on the pitch. Although, even if Everton stay up, I don't see him staying past this summer. A lot of those players have already mentally given up, and they'll just be looking to jump to the next ship.

Nah I get it. It annoys me to see the best player in a team waste his talents writhing on the ground (for example) or like at United sitting on the bench (Sancho was supposed to light the league up, look at how far he's fallen in one season).
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You really have to question their desire now -- or that of their coach. At this point, you wonder if this Everton should stay up at the expense of teams like Burnley who happen to be half decent to watch. Or maybe I'm just saying that as still can't really get used to the weirdly captivating phenomenon called Weghorst who stirs in me the same eerie fascination of watching Crouch dribbling.
I'm not even being hyper critical because they're a rival. Toss that aside they are genuinely one of the worst teams to watch in the Premier League. At least Burnley do have a bit of bite to them. It doesn't help that I really dislike Richardlison as a football player, pretty much everything he does on that football pitch annoys me, but I guess that's part of his quality, he can wind people up on the pitch. Although, even if Everton stay up, I don't see him staying past this summer. A lot of those players have already mentally given up, and they'll just be looking to jump to the next ship.

Whether or not they'll be jumping from a sinking ship remains to be seen, but I do think so. Everton are going to put in another horrible display of football against Chelsea, despite needing as many points as possible, and ultimately they'll likely concede a goal in the second half as they get tired, and Chelsea step up the pace. Just like we did.
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at the moment i still have the yellow cap on in this round.

Yeah, you will still have it on your nickname in the leaderboard until the current round is over and then it will switch over to the new yellow cap winner

Could actually be better without Maguire and Pogba.

Last game against Arsenal was without Maguire and Pogba as well but we still lose the game. Still keeping my hopes up with the team by picking 1-0 against Chelsea ( yeah Im such a clown Roll Eyes ). At this rate, United needs to win to make sure that they get that either of the two spot for the Europa League so hoping that the team would win against Chelsea
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At this point, you wonder if this Everton should stay up at the expense of teams like Burnley who happen to be half decent to watch.

yeah, this seems to be the true
there is obviously some issue with Lampard, and players are more willing to visit Championship (or team to visit Championship, because most will just go away), than to see Lampard succeed in avoiding relegation

nevertheless, I think that we will pull Leeds in Championship, if any, not Burnley, they will probably stay in Premier
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Next is Utd vs Chelsea. Chelsea is easy pick?

It is for me. Arsenal was an easy pick too in my mind, only because of United's form and horrible state of play, but their last game they played about a third as the better side, so you never know which side turns up. Could actually be better without Maguire and Pogba.

To be honest, you've got to question Pickford's attitude when he's time wasting as much as he did, but also the fact he's winking to the fans as he's doing it, when ideally to get out of danger they need to be winning games.

Yeah, Alisson had his retribution too once we got Origi to secure the game... lying down after a tame catch. That team was not playing to win, in a derby. You really have to question their desire now -- or that of their coach. At this point, you wonder if this Everton should stay up at the expense of teams like Burnley who happen to be half decent to watch. Or maybe I'm just saying that as still can't really get used to the weirdly captivating phenomenon called Weghorst who stirs in me the same eerie fascination of watching Crouch dribbling.
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at the moment i still have the yellow cap on in this round.
if that should always remain so after today's game, what do i get out of it - have i won something or is that just a fun fact in these rounds? Grin

You get about $50 in freebets, so I hope you have your Sportsbet username handy Wink It's definitely fun fact, but comes with a very sweet prize that kinda makes up for your pool fee. Great idea to keep everyone fighting every week in this pool no matter what. I for one am really glad I never gave up as I never imagined I could be this high this late!
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at the moment i still have the yellow cap on in this round.
if that should always remain so after today's game, what do i get out of it - have i won something or is that just a fun fact in these rounds? Grin
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Talking about 0-0's being deceptive, I thought Crystal Palace played well, and had multiple chances to score. I thought Leeds were poor, and in the end they probably got lucky with the point. I'll never bet against Palace at home, they're a completely different team, and they have one of the best atmosphere's in English football.

To be honest I'm still a little annoyed at Everton, and it has kind of cemented my view that I'd like to see them get regelated, and to be honest looking at how they're playing, they might just do it. If they get a point against Chelsea playing like they did against us, I think they'll do it. However, they turn up against Chelsea in the same manner, and also lose in the same manner I think they'll lose all fight.

To be honest, you've got to question Pickford's attitude when he's time wasting as much as he did, but also the fact he's winking to the fans as he's doing it, when ideally to get out of danger they need to be winning games.

Anyway, enough about Everton. I like the idea of Liverpool winning by 3-0, Man City winning 4-0, and I think Chelsea will just about do it against Man Utd, going for a 0-2.

As I said in some different topic, City and Liverpool are in a league of thwir own. Nobody can even dream to match their pace throughout the season.
I think it was Allan on the Everton team that only had two successful passes, both from the kick off. I haven't really verified that statistic, but if it is true that's pretty insane for a midfield player.
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Wow, I might actually have been less surprised if Spurs lost, but what do you think guys, when a game ends zero-nil it always makes me feel like neither sides tried hard enough, so couldn't score, and also didn't take enough risks that allowed their opponent in.

I didn't watch the game but sometimes 0-0 scorelines can be deceptive so look at the other stats. Could have been lots of chances and woodwork hit etc but none of them just go in. I had 1-1 on that match. I've got 0-0 for tonight's game as well. Leeds really need at least a point from this. If they don't get something I think they could be in real trouble as they've got some very tough fixtures coming up. Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea all in a row. I doubt they're getting any points from those three so could come down to their last two games against Brighton and Brentford depending on the results of the other relegation battlers.

Fair enough, I know I've watched one or two 0-0 games which were exciting except for a lack of goals, I also seen 0-0 games with plenty of cards so that's a different kind of exciting but still, in English football especially you feel like if there is no goal, there is nothing to light up the game. Goals always change a game I think Smiley

Anyway spot on on another 0-0 game, I would never have thought to put that even if going for a draw!

Two teams like Palace and Leeds which usually score and concede goals seeing a 0-0 result for yesterday night game sounds a bit unbelievable for me but it is what it is.I thought we would have seen a festival of goals from both sides during such game but seeing a nil to nil result is the most unexpected result for me.Games without goals rarely are beautiful and are so only when both teams attack but yesterday it was just because of Leeds goalkeeper that the result stayed like that and the problem is that Palace dominated the game except for ball possession everything else they were superior.
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Wow, I might actually have been less surprised if Spurs lost, but what do you think guys, when a game ends zero-nil it always makes me feel like neither sides tried hard enough, so couldn't score, and also didn't take enough risks that allowed their opponent in.

I didn't watch the game but sometimes 0-0 scorelines can be deceptive so look at the other stats. Could have been lots of chances and woodwork hit etc but none of them just go in. I had 1-1 on that match. I've got 0-0 for tonight's game as well. Leeds really need at least a point from this. If they don't get something I think they could be in real trouble as they've got some very tough fixtures coming up. Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea all in a row. I doubt they're getting any points from those three so could come down to their last two games against Brighton and Brentford depending on the results of the other relegation battlers.

Fair enough, I know I've watched one or two 0-0 games which were exciting except for a lack of goals, I also seen 0-0 games with plenty of cards so that's a different kind of exciting but still, in English football especially you feel like if there is no goal, there is nothing to light up the game. Goals always change a game I think Smiley

Anyway spot on on another 0-0 game, I would never have thought to put that even if going for a draw!
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Still, not enough quality on either side and we're at HT scoreless, Palace probably deserved a goal, until hot heads ruined the last 10 mins.
0 - 0 at the end. I had 2 - 0 for Palace so waited until the last minute at least to have a goal.

but i think Leeds have the edge here
Palace defended well at the end. Almost half of the guys on the pool picked the draw and some got exact 3 points.

Next is Utd vs Chelsea. Chelsea is easy pick?
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^I went against my gut for this one too, and even ignored the form for Leeds because I've watched Palace play more maybe and it's really hard to ignore how good they can be at direct play, as opposed to Leeds who haven't really got out of Bielsa gear, all tempo and no guile. I want to say "more intelligent" but I'm not sure that's the right word, Zaha for sure but I'm never really convinced about Ayew, who's more clever than intelligent.

Still, not enough quality on either side and we're at HT scoreless, Palace probably deserved a goal, until hot heads ruined the last 10 mins.
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By the way, I am happy with my 9th position so far. Leeds or Palace tomorrow?
Leeds haven't lost a game in over a month. Palace are going through a rough patch, winless in the last 3 games. It's hard to predict a winner in a game involving bottom-of-the-league teams, but i think Leeds have the edge here

While we are on the topic how shitty was Everton... Did you see that stat that Thiago Alcantara had more correct passes then whole Everton team? Really tells you everything you need to know about the game.
Everton are hopeless. I'm gonna miss the merseyside derby
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If he's Premier League quality then it must be a bottom of the league team. I never understood why United even signed him. I was listening to True Geordie over the weekend and they said looking at the stats for Centre backs in the PL he comes out 38 out of 40 or something  Grin. He was benched in the last game an I'm surprised it took this long. Not sure whether it was related to that bomb threat he got.

Statistics is an accurate set of data with inaccurate conclusions Grin

Maguire is bad in this United team - no doubt about it. But the thing is that this United team does not play like a team at all and any player would look bad there - especially a slowish defender. He is out of form and in a bad mood overall but he is a decent player - maybe not for the team that United wants to be, but he's way better than an average mid-table CB.

Nathan Phillips last year looked better in a Liverpool team than Varane does in United's. It is much more complex than 'Maguire is crap'. Or well, it isn't. United is crap Grin
First of all, that bomb threat is total shit and guys which are doing that should be put to prison without right to watch TV. And that is only if there isn't actual bomb. I get it that supporters care about their club bot that is no way to show it. Those same guys were probably wanking each other at the moment united bought Maguire. 

He is shit but as cryptofrka says this United is even more shit and no defender in the world would look great there and especially slow defender who is at his best when team is defending with 10 players and he is clearing crosses all day long.
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He's English, so there's a little extra banter to be heard about it, since obviously banter is a very British thing. Also, he does some pretty comical things at times. Honestly, he kind of reminds me of Phil Jones. Obviously, the biggest thing for Maguire is he cost so much, and has delivered nothing up to this point. At least Phil Jones wasn't a massive transfer.

Phil Jones, ah, the one that Ferguson settled for after deciding Henderson ran funny (and how we ended up getting Hendo instead of Jones!). Funny how things eventually turn out many years down the line, with different coaches and different styles.

It is much more complex than 'Maguire is crap'. Or well, it isn't. United is crap Grin

It definitely is much more complex than that. I do feel for him. But he could have been managed better. Klopp could have been deemed cruel when he dropped Karius after his own set of defensive atrocities but he probably prevented him from doing even worse (though he seemed to have carried that cloud over to Turkey after).

If his form dipped (which it did) and his confidence meant he could no longer captain (which it did), you take him off and sort it out first.
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If he's Premier League quality then it must be a bottom of the league team. I never understood why United even signed him. I was listening to True Geordie over the weekend and they said looking at the stats for Centre backs in the PL he comes out 38 out of 40 or something  Grin. He was benched in the last game an I'm surprised it took this long. Not sure whether it was related to that bomb threat he got.

Statistics is an accurate set of data with inaccurate conclusions Grin

Maguire is bad in this United team - no doubt about it. But the thing is that this United team does not play like a team at all and any player would look bad there - especially a slowish defender. He is out of form and in a bad mood overall but he is a decent player - maybe not for the team that United wants to be, but he's way better than an average mid-table CB.

Nathan Phillips last year looked better in a Liverpool team than Varane does in United's. It is much more complex than 'Maguire is crap'. Or well, it isn't. United is crap Grin
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I know Maguire is not the only reason why United is this bad but he is sort of the one inviting the jokes on his expanse. Like he is going out of his way to look ridiculous in the game. That kick to Pogba head was state of the art.
He's English, so there's a little extra banter to be heard about it, since obviously banter is a very British thing. Also, he does some pretty comical things at times. Honestly, he kind of reminds me of Phil Jones. Obviously, the biggest thing for Maguire is he cost so much, and has delivered nothing up to this point. At least Phil Jones wasn't a massive transfer.

Maguire isn't terrible though, he's Premier League quality, but definitely isn't suited for a top four team. He did a good job at Leicester, and I think would still do a good job at a similar level.

If he's Premier League quality then it must be a bottom of the league team. I never understood why United even signed him. I was listening to True Geordie over the weekend and they said looking at the stats for Centre backs in the PL he comes out 38 out of 40 or something  Grin. He was benched in the last game an I'm surprised it took this long. Not sure whether it was related to that bomb threat he got.

Wow, I might actually have been less surprised if Spurs lost, but what do you think guys, when a game ends zero-nil it always makes me feel like neither sides tried hard enough, so couldn't score, and also didn't take enough risks that allowed their opponent in.



I didn't watch the game but sometimes 0-0 scorelines can be deceptive so look at the other stats. Could have been lots of chances and woodwork hit etc but none of them just go in. I had 1-1 on that match. I've got 0-0 for tonight's game as well. Leeds really need at least a point from this. If they don't get something I think they could be in real trouble as they've got some very tough fixtures coming up. Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea all in a row. I doubt they're getting any points from those three so could come down to their last two games against Brighton and Brentford depending on the results of the other relegation battlers.
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While we are on the topic how shitty was Everton... Did you see that stat that Thiago Alcantara had more correct passes then whole Everton team? Really tells you everything you need to know about the game.

As I said in some different topic, City and Liverpool are in a league of thwir own. Nobody can even dream to match their pace throughout the season.

I was reading one of my spam feeds from Google, which is all football news mostly and now I can't find it but supposedly Anthony Gordon was the best rated player in that team? How did that happen and yet the entire team can't even outpass one Liverpool guy?

City may have won many goals to none recently but this was a bus parker game from the readings, not sure why I picked 3-1 here lol

I'm not so good at picking draws it seems so definitely tough round. Leeds look so dangerous, but Palace also can be tricky. Draw?
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