Topic: Standing Strong Against Unjust Attacks: A Call for Community Support - page 4. (Read 3178 times)

That will literally never happen.  I had some idiot attack me with a reputation thread saying I stole money to order a Cybertruck because a moderator deleted their off topic post bashing Elon Musk on a different thread I had going.  I guess he thought I deleted his post and he got mad at me or something?  Anyway, icopress joined in with him in bashing me after I showed him what happened.  This is clearly not professional behavior or the type of management someone should be paying for.  You have to realize that they're running a money laundering operation to begin with, then things make more sense about the types of people involved.

They have already stated they will not elaborate on the fix probably because they do not want to give ideas to would-be hackers trying to find similar exploits in similar places.

Still, I will relay your request in a post in this thread and ask them to prove they fixed the bug but I will only do it on the condition you first post here to explicitly state you have exploited the bug again and can prove them as liars.

And keeping all of what you have stated, there is absolutely nothing stopping you from attempting to exploit the bug again (if it exists).

To be honest and neutral in this situation, I am more concerned about you not being able to prove the exploit still exists.

Chronologically, first you stated there was an exploit and second they stated they fixed it. Any rational person that did not believe their reply about the exploit being fixed would not ask them to prove it, rather they would exploit the bug again (if it still existed) and then call them a liar with evidence.

This is not specific to Blackjack.fun but to any casino/gaming website: Had the exploit not been patched, anybody in your position probably should have used their initiative to show the casino/gaming website as untrustworthy by proving the exploit was not fixed and in the process it would have ended their reputation in the forum.

Do you realise you can effectively destroy their reputation as they will receive multiple red tags IF you can prove they are liars. I do not know about the exact process to execute in order to exploit the bug, nor does anybody else in this forum except you. The fact you are unable to prove they are liars yet maintain a line that they should prove to you they are telling the truth does not stack up.

Still, I will relay your request in a post and ask them to prove they fixed the bug on the condition you explicitly state you will exploit the bug again and prove them as liars before I proceed. Please provide evidence of your claim too.

No problem, if you see me as a big disappointment I am not concerned at your opinion of me because we do not know each other as we have not really interacted (beyond a few exchanges) in the years I have been using the forum. Though not necessary to state, I do care about the opinions of a very small number of members have about me and clearly you are not part of them.

If you cannot post here to categorically state you have again exploited the bug and provide evidence to back it up, I will be unable to engage with you any further.

I definitely understand your point. I think I have tried to fair and neutral in this matter but the ball is in his court for the last time. If he does not provide evidence the exploit still exists I will stop responding to him and will have to use the ignore button. Let us see what happens when he posts next time.

Ok let me give it to you in Blue

I never call anyone an idiot because why should I? you are not an idiot that would be a compliment because you are much worse. I told you I will mirror anyone who attacks and insults me.

If I am wrong, then prove it, easy as that. Blackjack.fun could easily prove it and so far they have not proved that I am the exploiter of the big part of 24USDT LOL.
Why should the owner of Blackjack.fun prove it if only I ask him to prove it when he has so many lawyers / signature spammers defending him.

Thank you for giving me another opportunity to respond to you.

@JollyGood

Just drop it. It makes no sense trying to communicate with this individual in a normal way. Actually, it makes no sense trying to communicate with him in any other way either. You have noticed by now that there is only one way you can go about it. If he says something, you need to agree with that. Everyone else are signature spammers and stupid people. The moment when you dared to question him, you became a disappointment. I wonder why you are not a signature spammer like the rest of us?

Try it as a social experiment: Tell him the casino is a scammer and see the praises coming your way. Or, tell him how he is wrong and see how long it takes him to call you an idiot.

@JollyGood I have been following your posts for years and I always thought wow what a good scam fighter. Now I think you have lost your way and not only in my case because at some point you started defending scammers and in my case it is the owner/developer of Blackjack.fun.

I explained now a few times in detail what happened and I will not do it again. I don't have to prove that the exploit was fixed!
Blackjack.fun took a long time to admit the exploit and tell us that he had fixed it. If he fixed it, it would be easy to show us the proof, he could explain the exploit and in what card constellation it appears and how he fixed it. Then, to really prove it, he could have some respected member play and wait for the constellations that allow the player to use the exploit and try to use it. He could even record it on screen for us.

Blackjack.fun is just not interested in really proving it, as it seems he has some advantage in not proving that he fixed it. He also has members like you who defend him and this is even worse because he feels safer when someone like me shows his true face.

You always ask me to prove and prove and prove. Why didn't you ever ask the owner/developer of Blackjack.fun to prove his accusations against me that I used the exploit to cheat him out of a large portion of the 24USDT I won? WHY didn't you ask him?
The owner/developer of Blackjack.fun could easily prove it with game logs and show all the forum members that I am a cheater and exploiter for peanuts! Why didn't he do it and why didn't you ask him? Isn't that strange and very questionable?

It would be so easy for him and I repeat myself as I have already explained it and since it is so easy and will tell everyone that I am telling the truth he just does not do it as he would look very bad with his blatant false accusation against me.
I used this exploit only once in the last tournament I participated in and the owner/developer of BJ fun banned me with letting me see the KYC page so I could not play anymore. he only needs to show the logs of my last tournament to prove how I used the exploit. I have already explained this a few times, so I will spare you and me from doing it again.

@JollyGood for me personally you are a big disappointment and I am sure you do not care. same for me as I do not care about your postings and you are welcome as you mentioned my text color usage in my postings to give me a red trust rating for using too much red color.

They have stated the exploit is fixed but you want them to prove it is fixed. I am asking you to exploit the bug and prove it is not fixed. Why should they do as you ask when you do not do what I ask?

If there is anything else that concerns you, I think the best way to get an understanding of what is going on here is by getting to the crux of the issue. What exactly are your issues or concerns with/about Blackjack.fun and can you list them one at a time like this:

1)

2)

3)

Once we have a comprehensive understanding of your concerns, I am sure they will be addressed. Whether they have already been answered and accepted or not, or whether the answers will satisfy you or not is a different matter altogether but in order to get started you should list your queries/concerns in a legible format without using walls of text and multiple colours in bold font.

You are a disgrace and shame to this forum and you are not doing your Signature Manager and Jambler.io any good with your shameless insults and attacks.

It will be interesting to see how long it takes the signature manager @icopress and the owner of Jambler.io to stop you.

Couldn't help but laugh on how this discussion is proceeding after it popped up at the top of my list.
@JackpotRacer You are one of the biggest pieces of shit I have talked to in the last couple of years.

It's not 'your', it's 'you are', you illiterate moron.

Did you forget the huge respect you had for my campaign manager a couple of weeks ago? Remember, when you were kissing his ass, hoping that would get me in trouble? Let me remind you:


I removed the childish red color and the bold text that you wrote in. I hope you won't struggle to recognize that this is your writing without it. I bolded the part that shows the "huge amount of respect" you have for him. It's very interesting how it all changed from that to him being a "stupid signature campaign manager." But, hey, that's the way you roll.

A little summary:

1. You tried to get me in trouble with my campaign manager by reporting my posts to him and praising him publicly. You hoped something would happen to me. Nothing happened, you failed.
2. After that ship sailed and he obviously doesn't agree with you, you reverted back to your usual tactic: Call everyone that disagrees with me and doesn't see things my way, signature spammers, stupid, etc.
3. Your latest masterpiece is the most pathetic one so far. You are now trying to stir up drama between icopress and Blackjack.Fun, by saying how his comments are not doing the casino any favors. Are you hoping they will agree with you, and drop him as their campaign manager? Do you really thing that is going to work? Good luck with that, let us know how it goes.

Oh, look! Praises and candy for someone who agrees with something you said. Who could have seen that coming?

sorry the answer is now longer as I thought.

@JollyGood, To be honest, I am not sure if I understood this paragraph of yours. Please be so kind as to explain what you mean. Nevertheless, I will try to answer according to my understanding.

The fact that Blackjack.fun said that they fixed the exploit does not mean that it is fixed. I can say this from my point of view and their past behavior.
If they really fixed it they can prove it. That they went private with the Tourneys and only for invites raises a red flag for me. They also did not in any form published if they started already those private tourneys and how many are interested and participating. Why should someone be able to check for this exploit if they do not know the exploit? I was the one who discovered it and I could easily check if it is fixed. But IMHO they are not interested in proving it. Sure, people will say they can do whatever they want and that is fine by me.

Put on my shoes for a moment and tell me how you would feel or react after I tell you in brief what happened.

Please let me say here that I follow your postings already many years and I was impressed and I thought to understand that you like me have the passion for justice and fairness. No ass-kissing as I don't and never will.

I went to the Blackjack.fun site because I always check out casinos to be up to date and in this case I wanted to check out their Blackjack game. I was not interested in all the other games from their game providers that I am very familiar with. Especially Netent games.
I participated in their free roll tournaments and once played their regular blackjack just to see how it works.

You can check the conversation in the thread I had and gave them some friendly advice and bugs to fix to make the game better. I never asked for a bounty because I was not in it for the money. All these tourneys were 1USDT tourneys. Sorry, but IMHO no one could say that I was in for the money with a 1USDT prize.
To make a long story short, you can read the whole story in my scam accusation.

Blackjack.fun owner/developer accused me out of the blue that I cheated by using thetimer exploit and a big part of the 24USDT I won is because I used the exploit. come on how much can a big part of 24USDT be? sorry for the LOL
I hope you are still wearing my shoes.
I was shocked and insisted that he prove it to me and the forum members by checking the game logs and showing them to everyone. His response was that he did not have time to check the game logs.

How would you respond? To prove his accusation against me, he does not have the time to check the game logs? Ok, but as a serious casino owner and developer, should he not take the time to check who used the exploit and when, to find out how to fix it? How did he fix it as he claims? Please remember that he asked me for an explanation of the exploit, which I did not give him because of his strange behavior towards me.

If he really fixed it, he would have to go through the game logs to understand when the exploit was used and who used it. Logic tells me that the easiest way to find the exploit is to check only the game(s) of one tournament, and this is the one where some players complained about me. If he did this check, then it should tell us that he could easily prove if and how I used the exploit in at least this one tournament and if I won the 1USDT prize. Sorry, but he did not and this tells me that he did not fix it and he did not get clean of his accusation that I stole the big part of the 24USDT (again sorry for the LOL).
BTW, this was the only tournament where I used the exploit as I discovered it shortly before and used it in a way that no one would use if they wanted to win the 1USDT prize. If he would at least show these logs from this tournament, then it would be very clear that his accusation was false and outrageous. To me, this is the answer to why he did not show the logs.


I think the above explanation should answer this question. Blackjack.fun owner/developer accused me of something I never did and I cannot let it go through and will not.

There was a member who recently asked me a fair question in the Blackjack.fun thread. His name is @dimonstration and I replied to him. His question was
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63819291

my answer:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63819340

@dimonstration not so stupid answer
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63821949

Then he disappeared and I have no idea why he didn't answer, to be honest I have a hunch

That's it for now. Please feel free to ask if anything is still unclear.

Cheers

JackpotRacer, you made an allegation of the exploit against Blackjack.fun and they have responded with a claim the exploit you mentioned was fixed. It will be near impossible for them for a variety of reasons to prove their claim to be true but there is nothing stopping you from exploiting the bug and thus proving they are liars. The problem with that is scenario is that you must use the exploit and you are not doing it.

What exactly are the outstanding claims you are making against Blackjack.fun apart from their forum representative being allegedly rude towards you? Is there any other claim?

All I can say is that you have not done Blackjack.fun a great favor by attacking me with such stupid and false accusations. Poor member @ineedhelpplease as he was accused to be me LOL

You should apologize to him and me! but then you need to have some decent blood in your stream. Let's see

Glad you saw my Signature and went t the thread and caught me and my alt account LOL



@ineedhelpplease

I am sorry that you have been falsely accused by @icopress

But chapeau for your direct question, because it shows that you have read a lot and understood it very well.

I will check if I have merits and merit you as you are one of not many decent members here.

To begin with, so that they listen to you, stop writing in bold colors. Secondly, all you had to do was say “I misquoted.” Thirdly (and this is probably the main thing) that your words will be ignored by everyone as long as you use the feedback system as a tool of retribution against everyone who disagrees with you (which once again suggests that my tag was extremely accurate).

Your not only stupid you are also a stupid Signature Campaign Manager of Blackjack.fun as you think you will get a medal from the scammer Blackjack.fun for attacking me with LIES.

You are just like Blackjack.fun attacking with false accusations without proof!

Prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Any mod is welcome to check all you can to see if it is an alt account of mine, and if yes you are welcome to ban me or give me the most red trust possible.

But if @icopress was wrong and attacked me with false accusations, I kindly ask you to give him the red trust he deserves from DT members.



Is your brain so empty or full of air that you cannot recognize a simple copy-paste?

Lol. Even with the naked eye it is clear that you are responding to your own posts written by your alternative account.

Eva, none of us here in the forum are naive enough to not know how a validator link for a licence provided by Curacao or other licencing authority works. We all know the validator link is not the licence and we all know it adds trust as the operational licence is valid at the time of the checking.

What is important to remember is that Blackjack has failed to provide an acceptable plausible reason for not removing the Curacao logo between 1st January 2024 and 19th February 2024 yet it decided to remove the validator link. That was highly suspect conduct.

After it was picked up and mentioned in both associated threads about Blackjack, the Curacao logo was removed and replaced with one from Anjouan with a functional validator link. Though it was a welcomed move on your part, it also raised questions about timing.

As I mentioned earlier on multiple occasions, in my opinion not have a valid licence between 1st January 2024 and 18th February 2024 is not an issue but the fact you stated the Anjouan licence was valid from 1st January 2024 yet failed to provide any proof was counterproductive on your part even though cited confidential company documents as an excuse.

Keeping that one blemish on the reputation of Blackjack aside, you stated you have fixed the exploit mentioned by JackpotRacer and have removed the provably fair image therefore these are excellent steps to gaining the confidence of those considering playing on your website.

There are numerous circumstances to consider regarding the validator link, such as how quickly the license issuer responds to emails, provides it, front-end development, its priority on the list, initial issues requiring adjustments and cooperation with the license issuer, ensuring it displays correctly in every region when clicked, and the need for the link to be refreshed every 20 minutes, and so on. The validator link is not the license itself; rather, it simply adds trust and indicates that the casino has an operational license.

Eva

Eva

At least you finally answered about a bug, not an exploit, because this exploit I found is not just a bug!
It would be nice if you would just confirm that it is the exploit I found that is fixed???

If so, I would like to know: How can we be sure and test it

BTW that @JollyGood wrote to you

It is important to note if you have fixed the specific exploit mentioned by JackpotRacer that is the end of the matter related to his report.

is wrong as you did not specifically confirmed the exploit I found as you talked about a bug. but @JollyGood has his opinion and I have mine.
 I gave you my opinion above

Hello Eva, thank you for the reply.

For the licence overlap, you did not provide anything substantial to disprove the theory that blackjack.fun might not have had a licence from any gaming authority between 1st January 2024 and 18th February 2024.

The fact a Curacao logo was visible with the verifiable URL link removed from 1st January 2024 until 19th February 2024 really did not look good especially when it took 50 days to replace it with another licence provider.

I did mention in an earlier post, for me it would not have been an issue had one licence expired and the other issued after a gap of several weeks but making a claim the second licence from Anjouan started on 1st January 2024 and then being unable to prove it especially after you added the Anjouan licence with verifiable on 19th February 2024. It raises valid questions why the Anjouan licence was not added for 50 days even though you claim you had it.

On that specific point I believe the blackjack team have not been honest. Instead of accepting they made a mistake or overlooked it until it was brought to their attention they claim something that is not true. Simply by you citing sensitive documents (as a reason to not prove when the Anjouan licence was issued) seems far more to be an excuse but that is my opinion and others will have their own.

As for the other two issues, it seems your reply has covered them and I thank you for that.

It is important to note if you have fixed the specific exploit mentioned by JackpotRacer that is the end of the matter related to his report.

Also, regarding the provably fair claims, the provably fair image has been removed from the website and if you and your games providers make it clear which games are provably fair and how those games results can be verified before customers play, that is the end of the matter because it allows customers to make informed decisions before playing.

Hello JollyGood,

Questions have already been answered. Company-sensitive documents with personal information and signatures are not public information. We are a properly licensed casino for very long time. It is not like you go to a company and ask, "Prove to me you are innocent by showing your sensitive data, or you are guilty."

The specific bug has been fixed, but new ones have emerged, and more will arise without warranties. This is a standard aspect of the process; it encapsulates the concept. There are no dates or times specified regarding when or how the development team is working and on which task. The entire question about bugs is irrelevant because it pertains to a different concept altogether. If it were a game where players take risks, it would be an entirely different story, but that is not the case here.


Regarding provably fair systems, every game provider is different. The ones who have such systems have their own way of showing it, confirming it, and so on, and it is their decision whether they advertise it or not for their games. We can only speak for our own games. When it comes to showcasing and ensuring fair game for blackjack tournaments, this will be another aspect of which we'll be very proud. We're even seeking community assistance to make it as advanced and provably fair as possible, and to determine the best way to showcase it. However, we'll address this aspect later when we arrive at that point.

Eva

Eva

I don't know why @JollyGood puts aside Quesiton #1, but that is his decision

I will not do without the answer to Question #1

1: Has the exploit mentioned by JackpotRacer been fixed? If it has not been fixed please explain why (and when you expect to fix it).

For #2 and #3, I am certainly waiting for you to answer as well.

I will add a legit question

Why are you not answering these questions? these answers, if answered in full truth, will help your customers and also your casino. not answering after being asked so many times shows a lot of disrespect but also that there is a fishy reason behind not answering these simple and legit questions.