Topic: Statement about the suspect of recent Bitcoinica hack - page 5. (Read 136187 times)

My guess is Rarity is always "happy", isn't that a by-product of Clarity?

I'll be setting up a different venue for this investigation, and the relevant parties will be notified by email.  To make Rarity happy, I won't post any more information here on this forum.  

Sorry I caused such a huge stir with my general comment about society.  I sincerely apologize to those I offended or annoyed.

It was only public information buried in some governmentcorporate website. I concur with some other comments, it seemed a bit unprofessional for you to tell zhou "have your lawyer contact[e-mail] us" instead of directly providing him your public address. That lack of presence only provides fuel for zhou's fire, as does this vague referral to "a member on this thread" ..

I had to go back some 10 pages to find it.. so I'll quote it again for other readers.

sgitcoin == sgbitcoin. And don't forget that stevejobs807 = steve_bobs. given the date that steve_bobs appeared, it was very coincidental indeed. Another one is bitchen == Chen Jianhai. perhaps Chen Jianhai == Kevin Lim == Patrick Strateman?

Once again, the moderators split off the discussion of the threats ML made and his admissions of incriminating himself and stalking ZT to another thread, please take your objections there along with any other explanations on how quoting threats is the same thing as making them:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97365.40

It's a simple fact you did reference murder.

Facts can be misleading without proper context, but that's a game you started with your sentence, which only states "referencing murder", but implies condoning it. I don't see quotes of any threat or admission. Beaten at your own game, your next step is to attack ad hominem. My response was not retarded but a play on your own rhetoric.

As for actual threats, I haven't seen them here in this thread, and I can't approve of threats of violence, but if you want to keep this discussion out of here I advise to not report about it here either. Least of all in a flippant implying way provoking responses.

The moderators decided to split the discussion.


I am simply replying to direct individuals to the proper, moderator sanctioned venue to discuss their decision about the threats that were posted.

We?

Who is "we"?

If you know there is the appropriate thread for such matter, why you insist to continue the debate here?

Actually no, that's kind of retarded.  Quoting someone discussing violence and admitting they are stalking someone and incriminating themselves is not the same as mentioning that it happened.  We have a separate thread for this now if you want to debate the mod decision that these threats were problematic: 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97365.40

And now so have you.

Does the community accept Tihan Seale as an upstanding member of the community? If so I guess we can accept that ZT is indeed who he says he is?

If the community does accept this, then do the people who believe ZT not to be who he says he is have anything to say to the matter?


Trading the day after the hack suggests that he either didn't know there was a hack or that he thought he couldn't be caught. One would be quite ignorant and the other would be quite arrogant.


Not sure confronting the accused would be considered a warning but I have to agree the information they had seemed pretty damning. Again though, what happens if ZT can verify that the money came from his friend (e.g. police check bank records)? I'm just saying it's still a possibility and the existence of his friend will be very easy to verify now that AML regulations have kicked in.


Don't warn - simply call the police. That's what they're there for.


Was the hack known about the day after? If not then that's why he traded the next day (i.e. didn't know about it). If he did know about the hack then he's far more stupid than we've been led to believe, especially if the amounts were known.

Thank you for the thought felt post to Vladimir. Since he's unlikely to be able to reply as swiftly as myself, I've made a response that might answer your questions the best. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1074332

Vladimir may decide to response -also-.

I was only responding to ML bringing it up again, pointing out what the moderators have said on the matter. If you disagree with their view feel free to tell them in the thread I have linked.

You are obviously not paying attention to Rarity's comments.  Rarity can bring up the subject buy you cannot discuss it here. 

Gosh! But has anyone actually made mention of a hitman?

There is another thread for you to debate the moderator decision to take ML at his word when he admitted he was stalking ZT and incriminating himself, so take it there:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97365.40

If the thread was that compelling as evidence, maybe it shouldn't have been moved to the trashcan. Having read most of it previously, I would hardly describe it as "violent threats" or threats to "injure/kill". Pointing out that criminals sometimes run afoul of their own devices and get hurt or disappear is nothing more than talking about the headlines on the evening news. If there was a legitimate reason for that user to be censured, I sure the appropriate actions would have been taken by Board leadership, especially given that they have a predilection to support "Zhou Tong" and excuse his actions. Said user is still here, and the thread has been removed, calling attention to it as a call to action is somewhat hollow.

I seriously doubt that "Zhou Tong" close personal confidante and buddy of Notorious Relic Dealer Chen, Criminal Mastermind, wants to have anything to do at all with the police in China. First off its a long trip from Australia back to China just to file a vague police report; second, that very same travel could be considered flight to avoid prosecution; third, he stands a pretty damn good shot at having Notorious Relic Dealer Chen really, really upset with him, and perhaps suffering an accident like falling down a flight of Relic stairs, thirty of forth times; and fourth, why would he give up dependable broadband as enjoyed in Australia for the controlled and limited access in China, when all of his other "business ventures" are outside of China?

After releasing so much information at the start, is there a reason why you can no longer be so open?



I can think of two people you might have in mind when you make this comment. If one of them is who I think it is, I can understand why people might feel there's a conflict of interest but all I can see is they've made no plea other than wait till something conclusive comes in. If they were saying that ZT is absolutely not guilty then I could see your point but otherwise are you saying that the person is being reasonable and rational because sometime in the past he's received monies from ZT?

Zhou Tong should probably go to the police at this point to ask for protection from the violent threats leveled against him by this individual.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1073135