Topic: Statement about the suspect of recent Bitcoinica hack - page 15. (Read 136139 times)

Sorry, lost me there when you called someone a criminal without any kind of investigation and all "proof" based on something a group that broke the law just to come here and start this thread says (who can't even provide their legal registration information on request). I won't say Zhou is guilty or not guilty, it's not my job. It's also not yours, that's kind of the point. Support for transparency and evidence is not support for Zhou, it's support for everyone. If you were being railed be the community I would fight for clarity and evidence and not jump to conclusions either.

I think you overestimate the power of a few SA goons who have already been banned and their opinion of me because I interviewed a kid and talked to him regularly on Skype. When I see evidence that he's stolen funds, I will be the first person to say "He stole the funds!". Right now it seems like a witch hunt and you and everyone here should be ashamed of yourselves. No one has of yet been able to explain why he is guilty. His friend wanted him to write some funds? Okay....Does that mean he stole some money? He was efficient in getting a response? So am I? What does that prove? Not to sound like I'm thick or anything, but this community has proven time and time again to be completely wrong on many serious issues (even BFL) and never let go even when they've been proven wrong. When the subject of that obsessive abusive harassment and libel is a 17 year old, I don't jump to support -him-, I jump to get transparency on all counts. AurumXchange posting their thread -still- makes no sense. Why would that exchange break the law to post a thread on a forum? What's in it for them?


You can hate me for asking for evidence, but you can't call me a shill when I'm demanding people provide it. Call me an annoying devil's advocate or a lynch mob joy kill if you want to.

Who is associated with any of the criminals or incompetents in this drama? As far as I can see there is one clear criminal who posted a thread libeling against Zhou, and a highly suspicious and incompetent Zhou. The only one associating any "investor group" to this is you.

This thread just gets more bizarre.

 


I read this quote on Something Awful and it made me lol

I think he should go on skype with a wig and a fake moustache 

Now that I have tracked down the official registration information for AurumXchange are you willing to provide them to proper documentation to get this cleared up? Your aggressive stance with them does not help your case at this point.

Isn't it my best interest to be a fake person right now?

I'm trying to do good and help people, but people don't give any merit to that.

To end the speculation now, Zhou Tong is fake and the guy behind it wants to help Bitcoinica customers to get their money back. Bitcoinica is just an illusional product that has never been built.

I believe some people will be very satisfied now.

Zhoutong -

To end this speculation just skype right now with one of the forum respected members.  I just listened to that interview you had.  If this is really you, I do not doubt that your english is that proficient, and I would imagine you are proficient at many other things. 

To me, some of the interview seems "scripted."  Just my opinion.  Not that it matters, it could still be your voice.  And I do believe that could be your voice, the voice of a 17 year old.  But, since there is all the sudden this idea floating around, why not put it to rest? 

There's some truth in the above. I'll start with the last part. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Not trying to cop out there, but it's a fact. As far as I know, I don't have a disorder, but sometimes I can seem to get my points across in readable manner. I also sometimes get excited inside and start penning before all the dots are actually connected.

Thanks for your post, cypherdoc, for it allowed me to express where I'm coming from.

Later, bud. (every time I type that line, it's meant as a friendly "see you later"--never as a snide remark)

~Bruno~

Answered my own question through some research

https://www.aurumxchange.com/content/AML

"Dominica law makes it illegal for AURUM CAPITAL HOLDINGS INC., its employees, agents, or customers to knowingly engage, or attempt to engage in a monetary transaction in criminally derived property"


and

http://www.icpcredit.com/Companies/Aurum_Capital_Holdings_Incorporated/398240.company

ID 398782
Company Aurum Capital Holdings Incorporated
Street 8 Copthall
PO Box 2342
Town Roseau
Country Dominica
Report Date 04 October 2011


Also
https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20298268-mt-gox-aurumxchange-partnership-european-transfers-now-available

"About AurumXchange
 
Aurum Capital Holdings, Inc. was founded on 2007 by a group of seasoned professionals in the technology and electronic payment industry. Since then, the company has been providing software and security services in the e-currency and electronic payment industry. In 2009, Aurum Capital Holdings decided to start an electronic currency business called The Aurum Exchange Company, quickly becoming one of the biggest and most trusted e-currency exchangers in the world. The AurumXchange company is a certified exchanger for GlobalDigitalPay, Solid Trust Pay, HD-Money, C-Gold, and it is also the official wholesaler for CosmicPay. We also work with Liberty Reserve and the company is currently undergoing the certification process to become a certified exchanger. The company is incorporated in the Commonwealth of Dominica, an offshore tax-free heaven with one of the strongest privacy and banking secrecy in the world"

---> http://188-165-140-240.ovh.net/

This is odd! I just did a search on this forum of where I cleared stated not once, but at least three times that the voice in that video was not of a 16+-year-old kid. Perhaps they were removed. Does anybody here remember reading any of those posts penned by me?

~Bruno~

Just remember folks, if you give money to an admitted stalker to follow through on his threats of violence, law enforcement will be wanting to speak with you.

Some other Asian guy with a more mature voice than a 16(+)-year-old. A PLANT! Listen to "Zhou Tong" again in that video.

~Bruno~

 I don't understand why they haven't done this already, publicly.

 If they are a respectable, on-the-level business entity, why aren't they more forthcoming with publicly making available their business registration info, address, contact info, or otherwise ?

Got back from Iowa earlier, and stopped in off-topic first. Something caught my eye, and went into another Google Fu mode. Then came here and noticed there's seven pages following my last post, whereupon I had to go make a fresh pot of coffee. I stopped to reply to this one, and still 6+ pages out. I will add what may be needed once I finish reading. I may even post prior and it may come up as back-to-back posts. If so, please forgive me.

~Bruno~

Thanks LG - I am guilty of responding too often to people who are obviously trying to get my goat.  That will stop and I will simply ignore them.

I've already attracted serious interest in hiring the PI - we may go ahead and do that as early as this week.  If you are owed any significant sum by Zhou, and you intend to press criminal charges with the Australian police, please contact me.

While I don't necessarily agree with the wording, I think AurumXchange needs to publicly state their business registration information. You have referenced Dominican law but have not provided an address, Dominican or otherwise.

For prospective customers, please state your business address and registration information on this forum and on your website. With this information, you will inspire the confidence of more people who are just hearing of your business the first time. I ask you not to release your contact information for Zhou, but for prospective customers everywhere.

Matthew- Roberto has already dropped out of this thread, and no matter how well phrased your continued support for the criminal Zhou is, you are piling fuel on the fire. If Zhou or his attorney need any information it is abundantly available, this is neither the venue, nor the audience for that information. You are pretty much covered in splatter from this train wreck already- what is your upside for shilling for Zhou? Personally the very last thing I would want to do with my investors group is associate with any of the criminals and incompetents who are the principals in this drama.

Zhou- there is absolutely nothing believable about any of your statements. You point to a multimillionaire relic dealing gangster as the person who has no technical skill, but managed to take advantage of your account, exactly at the time that you forgot to use it? I suspect that you have close personal knowledge of Chinese criminal millionaires, and I suspect you know that voluntarily outing them in public, tied to actionable details like bank account numbers, what their schemes are, and offering enough of a profile may make for interesting reading, but you would already be dead if Chen was a real person. Millionaire criminal masterminds do not suffer fools who release their personal information, especially fools who do so in a very public way with a lynch mob screaming for legal action. You are a liar.

Rarity- get a plane flight to Australia and kowtow to Zhou in private. It is disgusting to see such an obvious sock-puppet slavishly drool over their hero and to heap such copious amounts of ignorant love on a criminal punk.

mlawrence- you are in the clear. Your comments are clearly protected speech, and even if they prove out to be prescient, one could hardly blame you half a world away for suggesting that A: a private investigator is a great move; and B: stupid people that do stupid crimes for half a million bucks tend to end up dead.

All the rest of the creditors- kids it is high time you woke up and smelled the coffee. You have been scammed. Ripped off. Victimized. Fleeced, robbed, raped and left for dead on the side of the road. The gang of thieves that have been doing this have had a falling out and are now in the end game where they all try to screw each other before the law clamps down on them, and everyone is trying to make alibis and hide the loot. This thread is Zhou's penultimate attempt to craft a comprehensive set of excuses that somehow exonerate him, if you are all willing to give up any idea of holding him accountable for his actions. You would be fools to do so. Seeing him sentenced to a very long stay in prison would be a far better lesson. Having every business entity run by the other liars, cheats and fools that have run the various incarnations of this destroyed, and having them held financially accountable would be another good step in the right direction.

And finally, let's encourage the heavy weights of this community to quit proclaiming their support for truth and justice and enabling this kind of gang-rape, as it is just flat out wrong. If the Admins and Moderators of our community, and the Lead Developer of bitcoin want to maintain any hint of integrity, they should not be standing on one side or the other in this issue, telling us that they know somebody who did a deal honestly, or that they have lines of credit with a criminal doesn't do anything for bitcoin, to solve this issue, or improve their reputation. This entire story is filthy with lies, dishonest dealings, fraud and theft. Why would anyone want to argue in support of that?

There are only 2 logical explainations for this behavior
a) poor Martin just hates Chinese or Asians (boys?)
b) he is jealous that some 17yr old Chinese kid, instead of 42yr old Martin, was able make such a prime time website
Most probably both.

He calls him a boy, but at the same time, he don't believe a 17yr old can do it. Since last year.

He accused ZT of making up the numbers, while we know today that there have been too much coins there.

@Roberto: Please post your legitimate business registration/contact information in this thread for informational purposes so that Zhou's attorney can have it to address you officially and so that the community can also benefit from the knowledge that you are a rock in the community with a legitimate business interest and not just a personal vendetta.

Then don't take me seriously! I really don't care what 99% of you do - I just need that 1% that wants to make a difference to work together. 

Email me at [email protected] if you are willing to contribute to the PI investigator in Australia.   Other than that, not much more to say.   

The thread is locked, you didn't add a new post at the end.  You edited it away to try and hide your guilt, and got caught.  Your dishonesty makes it clear why you should not be taken seriously on these issues.

I didn't delete anything, pothead - one of the mods must have deleted it.