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Topic: Statement about the suspect of recent Bitcoinica hack - page 25. (Read 136158 times)

legendary
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Please click always on this below if it appears:

"Advertisement: Bitcoin is worth $10 each on NameTerrific."

I don't want to see this every time and we should protect Newbies.  Grin
Vod
legendary
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I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act.
Since Bitcoinica did not file a police report (as far as I know), from legal point of view there is no reason to assume there is a criminal act involved. Technically, Bitcoinica's computers were (allegedly) compromised. That would be the criminal act if it was reported.

ZT did not file charges against his "friend" either.  If I had a friend who took a large sum of money and made it look like I did it, I would report that right away.  I certainly wouldn't protect my friend's identity.   Cheesy
hero member
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

ZT didn't steal the money but his "Buddy"!

Can you find the post where Zhou said his buddy stole any funds? I'm having trouble finding that post...


Friend, buddy, associate... Same thing in this context.
donator
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I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act.
Since Bitcoinica did not file a police report (as far as I know), from legal point of view there is no reason to assume there is a criminal act involved. Technically, Bitcoinica's computers were (allegedly) compromised. That would be the criminal act if it was reported.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Can you find the post where Zhou said his buddy stole any funds? I'm having trouble finding that post...

It's the first post of this thread.   Smiley   Seriously - stick to publishing; you'd make a lousy detective.
hero member
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

Sure. Since I don't remember you posting any evidence. The only thing you posted as evidence that zhou is interested in bitcoin's success, which I already proved to be wrong.
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

ZT didn't steal the money but his "Buddy"!

Can you find the post where Zhou said his buddy stole any funds? I'm having trouble finding that post...
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
Merit: 3010
Licking my boob since 1970
Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

Please do!  All the evidence points to Zhou stealing the funds.  Even Zhou himself validated the evidence by saying it was correct but he was framed.  Zhou never provided any evidence this "friend" even existed. All he did was say it.   Cheesy

You're just one of those people who believes everything they are told.  Sad  Time to go to church, Mr gullible!
legendary
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Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?

ZT didn't steal the money but his "Buddy"!
legendary
Activity: 1246
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
This applies to you as well. Need I point out again the array of evidence that Zhou did not steal the funds?
member
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Typing something as Truth does not make it so. Especially when up against the array of evidence, means and motive to the contrary. Not forgetting Zhou's prime bullshit storytelling.


BB.
hero member
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Truth 6: I didn't steal the money.

ZT stole 20k of bitcoins

At least Zhou is providing information. What are you doing other than frothing?

I can do whatever I want - I didn't steal coins from the community.

So basically you're saying Zhou Tong can do whatever he wants as well?
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Truth 6: I didn't steal the money.

ZT stole 20k of bitcoins

At least Zhou is providing information. What are you doing other than frothing?

I can do whatever I want - I didn't steal coins from the community.
hero member
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Truth 6: I didn't steal the money.

ZT stole 20k of bitcoins

At least Zhou is providing information. What are you doing other than frothing?
legendary
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Funds have been stolen? They have been in some sort of safe deposit at ZT, and now they are on their way to the creditors. All is fine.

Not quite.  ZT stole 20k of bitcoins - only 15k have been recovered.  What happened to the other 5k?  Are we giving them to ZT as a thank you gift?

40K BTC and 40K USD were taken.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-mtgox-account-compromised-93074


hero member
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Funds have been stolen? They have been in some sort of safe deposit at ZT, and now they are on their way to the creditors. All is fine.

Not quite.  ZT stole 20k of bitcoins - only 15k have been recovered.  What happened to the other 5k?  Are we giving them to ZT as a thank you gift?

40K BTC and 40K USD were taken.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinica-mtgox-account-compromised-93074

Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Funds have been stolen? They have been in some sort of safe deposit at ZT, and now they are on their way to the creditors. All is fine.

Not quite.  ZT stole 20k of bitcoins - only 15k have been recovered.  What happened to the other 5k?  Are we giving them to ZT as a thank you gift?
legendary
Activity: 2856
Merit: 1520
Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
I note that in his most recent response (which actually tells us nothing new), Patrick has again neglected to tell us if he has obtained a warrant for his actions and what he is permitted to do. As you should all be able to tell, this is a pretty important area of ambiguity that needs clarification. Please answer the question Patrick.
Patrick acted upon the request of Bitcoinica's creditors. Since Bitcoinica, to our best knowledge, did not file a police report, nor seems to care whether the funds are returned to the creditors or not, it might be possible to argue that the creditors are the legitimate owners.
^this - therefor:
I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act. On what legal authority is he operating?
...They have been in some sort of safe deposit at ZT, and now they are on their way to the creditors....

How much of the funds?
aq
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I note that in his most recent response (which actually tells us nothing new), Patrick has again neglected to tell us if he has obtained a warrant for his actions and what he is permitted to do. As you should all be able to tell, this is a pretty important area of ambiguity that needs clarification. Please answer the question Patrick.
Patrick acted upon the request of Bitcoinica's creditors. Since Bitcoinica, to our best knowledge, did not file a police report, nor seems to care whether the funds are returned to the creditors or not, it might be possible to argue that the creditors are the legitimate owners.
^this - therefor:
I'm not talking about permission from Bitcoinica/Intersango, I'm talking about a legal warrant that allows him to do what would otherwise be considered a criminal act. On what legal authority is he operating?
Funds have been stolen? They have been in some sort of safe deposit at ZT, and now they are on their way to the creditors. All is fine.
hero member
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I would like to thank roger from memorydealer, patrick & the exchanges as well as all the others helping in the process and the honnest people trying to gather information here and there.
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