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sr. member
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November 16, 2023, 04:28:42 PM
The using of the vpn in the safe side is not possible one,if the gambler get captured by found of the vpn.The gambling site will ban their account without asking the explanation to the user.Even the gambler used to explain by using the mail to the gambling site,their is no use and not good reply from the gambling site.The account ban for the vpn usage is the punishment to avoid of future user of vpn in the gambling sites.But in the extreme condition of using vpn where the government had officially bad the gambling sites to their country also the gambling sites saying no to the usage.So how they accept the usage of the normal country
such cases are also possible to occurred due to use of vpn. But reputed gambling websites never do so. Actually vpn have some twist also. I can visit any gambling websites or anywhere else by using my country's ip even my country ban those websites! The fact is, vpn can provide me my countries ip with no restrictions. Thats why gambling websites somehow won't know I'm using vpn or not. And thus way i use vpn ,what already told in my old comment. Besides if i use other country name instead of mine, then kyc won't possible cause then i need to manage other's counties id for verification.
sr. member
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It depends on the website itself if they have a rule prohibiting the usage of VPN. VPN somehow is not illegal to use because they use this tool. For example, if a specific website is not accessible in a certain country, you can use a VPN to change your IP, but of course using a legitimate VPN is much safer than purchasing a subscription to a trusted VPN application. To sum up, it's much better to first assess the casino website to see if they allow you to use such a tool to be safe.

What we are talking about in this section is simple. If something is forbidden, don't do it so as not to get into trouble in the end. If we abide by the rules and policies that a casino has, we won't face any problems in the end.

The others because even if it is not allowed, of course it is wrong, it is illegal, and it is also against the rules they implement on their platform. But what you said is also correct: you can ask for their support so that at least there is no wasted effort if they say that they prohibit it on their gambling platform. And there is nothing to lose if we ask this question because it is free to ask, and for sure they will give you a free answer as well.
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It depends on the website itself if they have a rule prohibiting the usage of VPN. VPN somehow is not illegal to use because they use this tool. For example, if a specific website is not accessible in a certain country, you can use a VPN to change your IP, but of course using a legitimate VPN is much safer than purchasing a subscription to a trusted VPN application. To sum up, it's much better to first assess the casino website to see if they allow you to use such a tool to be safe.
And before you use the VPN, you can ask the casino whether it is permitted to use VPN or whether the casino prohibits it. This is done to avoid problems that might arise after gambling for a while. Usually, the casino will carry out verification for its members, especially those who want to withdraw their money. So before you register at the casino, you have to make sure that a VPN is permitted so that you can use it freely. But if your country prohibits gambling and the casino also prohibits citizens from your country from gambling in the casino, you will still not be allowed to gamble at the casino.
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It depends on the website itself if they have a rule prohibiting the usage of VPN. VPN somehow is not illegal to use because they use this tool. For example, if a specific website is not accessible in a certain country, you can use a VPN to change your IP, but of course using a legitimate VPN is much safer than purchasing a subscription to a trusted VPN application. To sum up, it's much better to first assess the casino website to see if they allow you to use such a tool to be safe.
legendary
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
Sure you can play in those casinos with a VPN, but once they ask you to perform KYC, you won't be able to pass the verification and you will end up with your balance frozen in that account. And if you read the terms, you will see that they prohibit users from using KYC. Even if they don't say it explicitly, they do mention that if you find ways to go around restrictions, they have the right to freeze and confiscate your funds. And then look at the scam accusation section on this forum. You will see lots of users not being able to withdraw funds just because they couldn't complete their KYC. They all had the same question "Why were we allowed to deposit (with VPN), but not withdraw"?.
Isnt it frustrating? Casinos need to be relaxing destinations to visit, not scams! While playing with a VPN may seem like a wise choice, there are drawbacks as well. And when they want KYC, voila! You're stranded. Those terms, too? They are cunning. Although they may not explicitly mention the VPN, they certainly have strategies to trick you. It is similar to this: "Hey, come put some money in. Oh, you want to take it out? Sorry, but not now." And those charges of scamming? They are in every place! Anywhere! Individuals who wish to enjoy themselves, just like you, are left asking, "Why could I deposit but not withdraw?" It aggravates me! I am, however, available to you. Never forget to read the fine print, and follow your instincts if anything doesnt seem right. Lets preserve the joy in gambling and stay safe.
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?
Sure you can play in those casinos with a VPN, but once they ask you to perform KYC, you won't be able to pass the verification and you will end up with your balance frozen in that account. And if you read the terms, you will see that they prohibit users from using KYC. Even if they don't say it explicitly, they do mention that if you find ways to go around restrictions, they have the right to freeze and confiscate your funds. And then look at the scam accusation section on this forum. You will see lots of users not being able to withdraw funds just because they couldn't complete their KYC. They all had the same question "Why were we allowed to deposit (with VPN), but not withdraw"?.
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Asking a casino's customer service if they accept VPN users is okay in my opinion because they may claim that the casino they want to gamble at isn't available in their country. Before asking other players in the community like this in the crypto space, read the TOS that the gaming platform provides.

A VPN should only be used if gambling is prohibited in the nation where the user is situated. And some others use VPNs solely to abuse specific casinos by using a fake account. If you are upfront about your intentions before investing money in the casino, you have nothing to lose, right? rather than ultimately running into an issue.
legendary
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Its better to have some advanced thinking rather than ending up on regretting in the end or on the time that you do win up some big amounts on which these platforms could really easily make out some excuses that
you had violated something and would really be making some changes on their sites terms and conditions on which there's nothing you can do but to accept that you had committed some violation but if you are that someone who are always reading up sites terms and conditions and found out that VPN is allowed or something not that a violation then you could really make out some contest but of course you should really be needing to provide some proofs or else then there's no point on trying to argue on such condition.

If you dont really like the hassle then i would really be just simply playing on the sites which are known and reputable comparing into those sites which arent really that popular or something
having  that kind of reputation. You cant really be able to tell on when they would become shit and scammy because we know that once we do talk about huge winnings then this is where issues do usually comes out.

You don't have any option once you suffer from any violation even you read the terms and conditions but if the site tag you as violating it then you will be needed to provide your evidences and wait for the site to justify their decision, either they will accept the mistake or they will pursue whatever they think that favorable to them, you don't have any control about the decision making unless you have the clear view and understanding about the terms and conditions that you think you did not violate any.

That is why when there is some information on the TOS that is vague or we hardly comprehend, we must ask the support staff to explain to us about that terms.  There is no harm in verifying things, instead it will even make our account safe from being suspended or banned.

Like on your last statement, better to use reputable site and those that have active support, as you can check on them from time to time to avoid doings things that may impact to your winnings if ever you manage to be lucky.

Regardless of the reputation of the site, we, as a gambler, have the responsibility to know everything about the casino's terms of service.  The casino won't message us first to explain their side, we have to message them about things we don't understand and ask things that is in greay area like using VPN when we are not in the restricted regions.
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It's very wrong and not safe to use VPN For gambling, especially for online sites and casinos where they are clearly stated in their terms that it shouldn't be done, actually with VPN you may be able to access the various sites as it may work but then it still doesn't make it good and reliable as the consequences of violating the terms of the site will definitely come soonest.

When you probably get a big win you are most likely at risk of facing some challenges with withdrawal as options for withdrawal in your region may not be available on the site because the site is not permitted or is labeled illegal in your jurisdiction. It's better to work with the ones available in your jurisdiction so you don't cut your fun short by not been able to make withdrawals after winnings.

It's most safe to stay and abide by the rules of the site or Casio so as to avoid possible future issues as it has to do with KYC and withdrawal which will later amount to wasted efforts and resources, and you definitely can't take any action against these casino or gambling sites as it's a bridge of their terms which even if not clearly stated it will be said they were not allowed in your jurisdiction but you by passed using VPN. Stay safe by using that which applies to your jurisdiction.
The truth is that most gamblers would definitely do anything possible to make sure they're winning their gambles even when their engagements are believed to be illegal. The use of VPN by gamblers to make sure they gamble even when the government in their country of residence had banned gambling is absolutely illegal but because they want to make sure that they're gambling like other countries where it is very much eligible then they do introduce VPN to help them gamble. One thing about online gambling is that it's absolutely not possible for government agencies to control how people use the cyberspace to gamble. However, as law abiding citizens, it's not a good idea to always do things that are contrary to the people's demand.
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The using of the vpn in the safe side is not possible one,if the gambler get captured by found of the vpn.The gambling site will ban their account without asking the explanation to the user.Even the gambler used to explain by using the mail to the gambling site,their is no use and not good reply from the gambling site.The account ban for the vpn usage is the punishment to avoid of future user of vpn in the gambling sites
This is only going to happen if the casino restricts the usage of VPNs to their accounts. But if the casino has no problem with that and you accidentally used it then you will not face any penalty and consequences upon usage of it. They may even encourage you to do that if you're asking them nicely and allow you to do it since you have started it already and they've been tracked your activities and that's why depending on the casino that you're having, they may or not allow you to do that so it's best to consult them first if you're ever planning to access them with the use of it.

But in the extreme condition of using vpn where the government had officially bad the gambling sites to their country also the gambling sites saying no to the usage.So how they accept the usage of the normal country.
Really varies to the situation and consideration of theirs. Some may have a meeting first and will ask you to wait for a couple of minutes for them to assess whether they'll allow you or not. If it's fine to them then they'll just put a note to your account through their database or record that you are into this situation and condition and you're given a go signal.
legendary
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Its better to have some advanced thinking rather than ending up on regretting in the end or on the time that you do win up some big amounts on which these platforms could really easily make out some excuses that
you had violated something and would really be making some changes on their sites terms and conditions on which there's nothing you can do but to accept that you had committed some violation but if you are that someone who are always reading up sites terms and conditions and found out that VPN is allowed or something not that a violation then you could really make out some contest but of course you should really be needing to provide some proofs or else then there's no point on trying to argue on such condition.

If you dont really like the hassle then i would really be just simply playing on the sites which are known and reputable comparing into those sites which arent really that popular or something
having  that kind of reputation. You cant really be able to tell on when they would become shit and scammy because we know that once we do talk about huge winnings then this is where issues do usually comes out.

You don't have any option once you suffer from any violation even you read the terms and conditions but if the site tag you as violating it then you will be needed to provide your evidences and wait for the site to justify their decision, either they will accept the mistake or they will pursue whatever they think that favorable to them, you don't have any control about the decision making unless you have the clear view and understanding about the terms and conditions that you think you did not violate any.

Like on your last statement, better to use reputable site and those that have active support, as you can check on them from time to time to avoid doings things that may impact to your winnings if ever you manage to be lucky.
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Actually it needs to know where and when you are allow to use vpn safely and where you aren't. There's no problem to use vpn if your government ban a gambling website and you want to bypass it by using vpn! That's okay and you can go for a stake after done your kyc. But the problem is, If you want to access a gambling website what bans your country, then vpn can't do anything! But you may access to that website but you can't done your kyc verification process, deposited money will lost in such cases. I have used vpn many time and access gambling website, done kyc, deposited and withdraw too even that website banned by my government

The using of the vpn in the safe side is not possible one,if the gambler get captured by found of the vpn.The gambling site will ban their account without asking the explanation to the user.Even the gambler used to explain by using the mail to the gambling site,their is no use and not good reply from the gambling site.The account ban for the vpn usage is the punishment to avoid of future user of vpn in the gambling sites.But in the extreme condition of using vpn where the government had officially bad the gambling sites to their country also the gambling sites saying no to the usage.So how they accept the usage of the normal country.
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Perhaps they think that they can get away with VPN and then continue to play. But once the casino has found what you are doing then, obviously, they will have to check everything once you withdraw some of your winnings.

So I don't believed that there are VPN friendly casinos though, I mean yeah, they might be saying that they are allowing it. But maybe if you used it where you resides to a country that they are ban, then you might have a problem later.

It can use against you especially if you are winning decent amount and you are trying to cash it out, once the site detects that you are from a specific place where gambling is prohibited, using VPN will not save your butt it will give the house that right to freeze your money and it will going to depend from how they work on it, either give you consideration or they will not allow you get your money out from your wallet.

Always consider the risk when using it and if possible not to deal or use the service, then it's much better since you will not be worrying if what will happen after you finished your game and decided to cash out your money.


Its better to have some advanced thinking rather than ending up on regretting in the end or on the time that you do win up some big amounts on which these platforms could really easily make out some excuses that
you had violated something and would really be making some changes on their sites terms and conditions on which there's nothing you can do but to accept that you had committed some violation but if you are that someone who are always reading up sites terms and conditions and found out that VPN is allowed or something not that a violation then you could really make out some contest but of course you should really be needing to provide some proofs or else then there's no point on trying to argue on such condition.

If you dont really like the hassle then i would really be just simply playing on the sites which are known and reputable comparing into those sites which arent really that popular or something
having  that kind of reputation. You cant really be able to tell on when they would become shit and scammy because we know that once we do talk about huge winnings then this is where issues do usually comes out.
sr. member
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Actually it needs to know where and when you are allow to use vpn safely and where you aren't. There's no problem to use vpn if your government ban a gambling website and you want to bypass it by using vpn! That's okay and you can go for a stake after done your kyc. But the problem is, If you want to access a gambling website what bans your country, then vpn can't do anything! But you may access to that website but you can't done your kyc verification process, deposited money will lost in such cases. I have used vpn many time and access gambling website, done kyc, deposited and withdraw too even that website banned by my government
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.
Most casinos prohibits its users users to use vpn, but there are some who doesn't. If it's stated on casino's ToS then users should not try to use it while playing, simply as that.
These mentioned casinos are probably strict about VPN especially if you are in countries that has strict casino regulations like US, Quatar, Singapore,.etc.
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It's very wrong and not safe to use VPN For gambling, especially for online sites and casinos where they are clearly stated in their terms that it shouldn't be done, actually with VPN you may be able to access the various sites as it may work but then it still doesn't make it good and reliable as the consequences of violating the terms of the site will definitely come soonest.

When you probably get a big win you are most likely at risk of facing some challenges with withdrawal as options for withdrawal in your region may not be available on the site because the site is not permitted or is labeled illegal in your jurisdiction. It's better to work with the ones available in your jurisdiction so you don't cut your fun short by not been able to make withdrawals after winnings.

It's most safe to stay and abide by the rules of the site or Casio so as to avoid possible future issues as it has to do with KYC and withdrawal which will later amount to wasted efforts and resources, and you definitely can't take any action against these casino or gambling sites as it's a bridge of their terms which even if not clearly stated it will be said they were not allowed in your jurisdiction but you by passed using VPN. Stay safe by using that which applies to your jurisdiction.

Many gambler are not understand the fact of using VPN will leads to loss at any point.Because the gambling site will check and find the VPN usage easily,So the gambling site will ban the account involved in the VPN usage.The money you had holding in the gambling site was taken by the gambling site.It may be look as the unfair one,but the person who use the VPN had getting the chance of the other winner.This account ban will be the punishment for the gambler uses VPN for additional win from the gambling site.
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It's very wrong and not safe to use VPN For gambling, especially for online sites and casinos where they are clearly stated in their terms that it shouldn't be done, actually with VPN you may be able to access the various sites as it may work but then it still doesn't make it good and reliable as the consequences of violating the terms of the site will definitely come soonest.

When you probably get a big win you are most likely at risk of facing some challenges with withdrawal as options for withdrawal in your region may not be available on the site because the site is not permitted or is labeled illegal in your jurisdiction. It's better to work with the ones available in your jurisdiction so you don't cut your fun short by not been able to make withdrawals after winnings.

It's most safe to stay and abide by the rules of the site or Casio so as to avoid possible future issues as it has to do with KYC and withdrawal which will later amount to wasted efforts and resources, and you definitely can't take any action against these casino or gambling sites as it's a bridge of their terms which even if not clearly stated it will be said they were not allowed in your jurisdiction but you by passed using VPN. Stay safe by using that which applies to your jurisdiction.
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I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I will discuss what happened in my country recently regarding gambling policy where the government is cleaning up online gambling sites every day, almost blocking a large number of sites. It turns out that even the international casinos I visited were difficult to access unless using a VPN. Before there was a cleanup policy I was still safe and free to access without using a VPN. Although there are several other options besides VPN, they are currently no longer effective.

Regarding VPN use, I didn't get any warning from the casino, maybe they are also aware of the increasingly strict policies in each country. Plus, I don't really mind the casino's new policy regarding no-holds-barred. But now when it comes to government policy, to be honest, I can't carry out my activities as freely as usual.
legendary
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^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Perhaps they think that they can get away with VPN and then continue to play. But once the casino has found what you are doing then, obviously, they will have to check everything once you withdraw some of your winnings.

So I don't believed that there are VPN friendly casinos though, I mean yeah, they might be saying that they are allowing it. But maybe if you used it where you resides to a country that they are ban, then you might have a problem later.

It can use against you especially if you are winning decent amount and you are trying to cash it out, once the site detects that you are from a specific place where gambling is prohibited, using VPN will not save your butt it will give the house that right to freeze your money and it will going to depend from how they work on it, either give you consideration or they will not allow you get your money out from your wallet.

Always consider the risk when using it and if possible not to deal or use the service, then it's much better since you will not be worrying if what will happen after you finished your game and decided to cash out your money.

legendary
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September 14, 2023, 03:37:47 PM
There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 
It's better if someone reads the terms and conditions of a casino before joining it only to know what they allow and what they don't, and if a platform is VPN-friendly, they will have it mentioned in their terms and conditions, or one can simply ask their support team about it before they actually create an account, make a deposit, win something big, and then come to know that they can't withdraw the money because they have been using a VPN all this time.

Using a VPN can sometimes be troublesome, especially if you are gambling from a country that is restricted by the platform since the country doesn't allow online gambling or gambling itself, which means that you are bypassing that rule and going against the law and the casino will simply block your account once they find out about that.
Reading up sites terms and conditions is always been not a common thing or casual that most gamblers would be doing and this is why if ever they would really be facing up problems due to violation of TOS then there's nothing that they could do but to deal with those consequences and this is why it is really that always relevant on reading up the TOS whenever you are dealing with something new specially on sites that you havent been used before so that on the time that you might be facing up some issues then you could really be able to counter as long it wasnt been stated and you have been accused on violating something. Using up VPN is not really that recommended for some platforms or most of them because these places are centralized and licensed on which there would really be a specific country or places which arent really that allowed to play on the platform and on the time that you are really that forcing yourself on playing and making use of whats prohibited then dont make yourself pointing out the blame once you have that locked up your funds into your casino balance.
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