Topic: Still not a safe practice even if it works - page 3. (Read 1067 times)

Yes, now things have changed a lot, usually in 2017 when you entered a casino you could do it with any protocol, because there were not so many things that whether you used VPN or not, what mattered at that time was that people entered the casino people and people , who had Traffic, it did not matter to them where it was from or if it was from whatever place, what was interesting for that moment was that they came in to play and that they Interacted , that they left money, that they deposited, and when they won cheaply. or he lost no matter what , if he had to withdraw, then he would withdraw without commitments to KYC or to comply with whether he had a VPN or not , I think that is what all this should be about, now the player who does it from anywhere in the world with a VPN is not cheating , it is Skipping all the parts that do not let him be him or let him have fun , I think that very Few casinos have Managed to Understand that and the truth is I don't know why they don't try to do Something so simple, as I said , there is Some casinos don't care if they make or use VPN , if they can, why not others?

If things work well for others, why not for some casinos that can allow this use of VPN? The only way I see that they cannot use it is if they have it established in the Tos, things that I see as unnecessary, because I know that in the future things are Going to change, and VPNs will no longer be the things that prevent playing, nor will KYC because they will be minimal, just knowing the identification of the person and the location I consider that is sufficient, so now the question is whether it can be allowed, but because the people will Seek to be more anonymous, the part they will have is that the casinos they offer The most proven and Anonymous are the ones who will be most sought after, this is only what I think will happen, however I don't know if what I See or think will be the case in the future, but the KYC thing, the VPN thing will be something What they will forget , what they will look for will be something else , I also don't think that decentralized casinos will be able to Compete with Centralized Casinos.

The most of the gambler won’t like to use the website with the VPN,being a crypto gambler it’s very hard to rotate all the money in the gambling.If the gamblers used the VPN,all the money you had won will be lost.It also the loss for the money you had used for playing the gambling gameIf you play with the VPN,the game can be banned at any time.Even some gambling sites allow their not covered area like Islamic state to use of the VPN.In such place the playing game itself hard,So VPN was allowed their.When the player play with VPN,he need to play the entire game with the fear of ban.

Yeah, you are just giving casino an authorization to investigate your account and eventually use it against you especially if you have good balance amount or if you are getting lucky making some decent consecutive winning streak, it's better to avoid using VPN if you are not doing anything or you are not storing important information which most of the time the purpose for having such kind of tunnel.

But on the side of gambling activities, it can harm your account as most of casino sites are not allowing the use of VPN.

I am not saying anything about having to enter a casino with a VPN because it is a way to enjoy a casino, but there is also something to keep in mind, if the Tos says that the use is not accepted VPN then nothing to do, the player has everything to lose, so if that's the case, don't start inventing. In any case, there will come a time when casinos will begin to accept people who use the VPN, so in this order of ideas we could wait a little longer to be able to enjoy a casino as it is, and without restrictions, I know that bitcasino.io does not have more problems with the use of the VPN, in fact it has a very interesting article about the VPN and the use of it, so when it comes to casinos and everything about VPN I don't know how much the fuss is about not wanting to do things Well regarding that, I can see that due to some government restrictions they cannot be carried out, but little by little these things will diminish because it is known that these casinos live because people need them.

Currently things with casinos are because they are very demanding due to KYC and that for some players is quite tedious and can become ugly when they are in a hurry to get the money, so seven types of things are what a casino should do quickly or accelerate them , so that you can do things better, however when we think that everything is fine, the restriction that we now know as the VPN is something that no longer makes much sense, I say something, if there is already a KYC passed and fully confirmed, Well, there is simply no problem if the person is in another country and uses the VPN, I don't think there is any problem there, but it is a matter of the casinos now seeing that it is necessary to accept this iop of users, the time will come where it is accepted and Now casinos have to find a way to provide some anonymity to players, either by using privacy coins, which is the most sensible thing to do, but this is in the future.

What about playing a gambling, trading, investing, and the likes? There are risks on them but we still like doing them. We need to take risks if we want to earn or multiply our existing money. Risk can come in different levels. We can still take the lower level, or refrain from doing the supposed to be illegal thing. In regards to our topic here, I believe there must be a casino and their games which are fully allowed in our country.

We can play on them instead and we can expect to earn something if we get lucky or skillful enough. There are legal reasons on why a casino and their games are restricted on our country. It was primarily ordered by the government. It's not that the casino hates our country or what, so we should understand it.

But if you're using VPNs to gain special advantages like let's say region-blocked games and content, aren't that grounds for getting banned since you're gaming the system to provide you with content that is otherwise not supposed to be available to you? I get it, sometimes it's just better to have moore stuff around and all that but using VPNs to evade blockings will just do you more harm than good. Since now, and especially if the gambling site you're playing with is not supportive of this you gotta make sure that they don't catch you using VPNs otherwise you would get banned.

And if you're going to say that using VPNs are for people whose countries they live in have banned gambling, I'm just gonna ask you this: Is gambling worth risking prison time?

Obviously, everyone is prohibited from using VPN to conceal your real location, but I don't see any point using VPN other than for that specific reason. Well, I know VPN could protect you from some sort of digital attack, but If you don't have anything really important from your device or if it has not store massive amount of data or any financial information, I don't see any point using it, you are just taking the risk of you getting your casino account being investigated for using VPN as most casinos does not advise it.

I highly agree, if anything is vague we should always contact the support staff in order to clarify those things.  It is better safe than sorry.  And since the issue with VPN is always vague and the terms and condition only forbid those who are in restricted regions since it is illegal to circumvent the restriction in order to access the platform, there are no clear indications that those who are not restricted can freely use VPN.  In this case, in order to avoid future problems, it is best to contact support to ask if VPN usage is allowd to player who resides to non-restricted countries.

It's hard to risk on something that will affect our funds in the future. It's better to fully comply with the casino TOS than to violate their rules just to pursue what we want. If we're living in an area where such casino is prohibited or if they don't support our country, better choose casinos that do rather than risk our funds through using VPNs which could also be the reason for us to lose everything in the future.
We should be skeptical, especially with anything that involves our funds rather than risking and trying to escape the TOS of each casino.

For Stake it's quite confusing because Eddie is using a VPN in his streams to access it when he plays from Australia, since Stake blocks connections from this country.
But their ToS say it's not allowed
https://stake.com/policies/terms
So if you are losing money there I don't think you'll encounter issues but if you win money, especially at sportsbook you will very likely get your account locked.
The ToS of Fortunejack don't seem to talk about it, and they've made an article promoting it on their blog. So I guess it's allowed there.
https://fortunejack.com/blog/how-do-gamblers-benefit-from-vpn

Me either but who wouldn't be? When our own money is at risk here and as well as our gambling accounts if we already build a good level of VIP on it. You are right that lots of scam accuse cases are from users who don't follow the rules properly. It's funny or crazy that these people have the guts to do it while those are truly got scammed or have experience a problem on a legit casino are rarely making a thread here.

Those people are more professional or too kind to let those type of casino but they will surely add those casinos on their black list. There must be a casino which are legal from our country. It only takes a bit of research or reading. There is no need to take more risk, as we are already taking more by playing a gambling.

It's as if the new casinos don't want to make it difficult for people to register at their casino, so they easily say that even though there are already several people who are regular customers and intend to withdraw their winnings, that's where the real problem will arise and that's will make it difficult for its customers because they feel cheated by the casino. And, of course, that will make the good name of the new casino that has started to become bad because of this small but big misunderstanding that the new casino really has to clarify it properly so that people who want to register can know the truth.

The honesty of the casino will be more important than anything. If the casino representatives can tell the truth and have nothing to cover up, it will be better because potential users will know what to do about their casino. And if they want to continue registering at the casino, they already know the risks and consequences, so that they will obey the rules made by the casino. Well, it's normal for them to do something like that because their first target is to get as many customers as possible, and when the casino starts to gain a reputation, they will show the truth. And if that happens to the members here, they will feel cheated and just leave the casino and never come back.

Yes, I don't know about that. But we as users really have to ensure that we won't get into problems that can harm us later. But if there is a casino that can be honest about the situations and conditions in the casino, that will be very useful for us and can be considered. Perhaps we will still register as new members at the casino because we think they can be honest about the situation at the casino. It depends on how they can treat their customers well. Trust must be built, and it cannot be obtained in a short time.

AFAIK, some casinos strictly prohibit the usage of VPNs on their websites. However, in most cases, it is only prohibited when attempting to mask the real location for illegal purposes.

The risk is that you will most likely be asked for KYC verification in order for the casino to confirm your identity and the source of your funds. But if you pass it, I see no issue with using a VPN during your gambling sessions on any of the sites you mentioned.

I quite agree with you, another reason which I believe you missed is those who also want to hide or keep their privacy private, that is, their location or jurisdiction is not in the casino's restricted listed, but just for the sake of not wanting the casino to know the location they are gambling from, they will use VPN to hide their original IP address .

And this is also to state that not every gambler who uses a VPN uses it for the sole purpose of multi accounting, though this is still a very valid factor regardless.

There are some also that use VPN for the purpose of increasing their internet speed, this is common for those who live in areas with very poor local internet connection, connecting to a VPN network helps them to access the internet at a very much higher or better speed .

Yes the major reason why some gambler use VPN is to bypass a restriction and this restrictions can come in number of ways,  such as in the form of their countries restriction on some site,  I have seen multiple casino where their site is not allow in my region and instead of to abide by the restrictions some gamblers will just decide to use VPN to bypass such restriction.

Another factor is,  gambler that want commit multi-counting on the casino could decide to use a VPN to hide their or her up.

Firstly, most of popular sites have alternative link which is also known as "mirror link". So before using vpn, make an investigation about that website if it has Mirror link or not but need to be careful about phishing sites. Actually VPN is used for manipulation ip address which effects Stake/casino's policy, bonus, reference commission and others thing which little various for countries. Using vpn is okey for small amount but when you start winning big amout then your account will be tracked and they might ask for webcam verification or restrict account for policy violence issue which wasn't mention in their wensite rules but they do. So op is right

But we know that human beings are really that hard headed kind of creatures on which it is really that part of the instinct that once you are really that interested into a particular thing then you would really be definitely be finding ways for you to be able to engage to it no matter what even if it means that you would really be bypassing their terms and conditions on which it is really that a risky thing to do knowing that you might get caught and would really be seized your fund by the casino once you do violate their terms and conditions.

Its is really that a common approach or scenario on which you would really be that crying and whining on the time that the casino would do such lock up but the thing on what you have done then it is really just
that right and its true that you would really be playing out that you are the victim here but the truth that you are the ones who had violated. This is why its always been that recommended that you should really abide with the rules so that you wont really be finding yourself on a condition on which you are really that gonna beg for your money to get back just because its been locked up since you had violated something.
Its true that if you do see that its prohibited, then why would really be going on or proceed on making use of something which isnt allowed? It doesnt really make sense.

The very sad and regrettable part that I have seen on this subject of VPN is that many representatives of new casinos that have a thread on this forum when they are asked by a member of this forum about the use of VPN even though they are in a country prohibited by the casino rules , the response from the casino representative here on the forum has been things like: there is no problem in using VPN even for people who are on the list of prohibited and restricted countries, but the problem with that is the fact that this is what the representative of the casino says, while in the casino tos they prohibit the use of vpn for people who are in restricted and prohibited countries

So I keep asking myself: what is worth more in the casino, is it the casino representative's word or the casino's tous? when the casino prevents the customer from withdrawing money they use their tos, this is because the tos is something written and a written agreement has more weight and importance than just a word made by the casino representative, that's why when I see a representative from a casino coming In this forum it says that the casino allows the use of VPN for people who live in restricted and prohibited countries even when the tos says otherwise, so I'm wondering why the casino doesn't also put in the tos that allow the use of VPN?

If we look carefully, we will see that nowadays it is difficult to find any casino website saying that they allow the use of a VPN, it appears that the VPN has already been banned by the license provider, and it is just my assumption, I could be wrong, but it is very It's strange that more than 50% of casinos don't state in their documents that they allow the use of VPNs, they just say that they allow the use of VPNs here on the forum but they don't include this in their documents.

Privacy is important but there should be a stop if the system disallowed such thing. There is nothing wrong in using VPN, it's legal and that's why we see them deployed in Google play store and apple store but there are some casinos and sport bookies that don't want people to use it on their platform, it's always in their privacy and conditions because they know how important privacy is to people. Some gamblers don't bother to return ad between lines, they rather chase bonus than do the necessary.

If a casino says a country is restricted, there is no point to prove or be stubborn, leave quietly and make use of other betting platforms but some gamblers will prefer to use VPN to bypass this just to either enjoy the benefits and promotion and by the time the casino kick against them, they shed crocodile tears and play victim game that casino has cheated them when they are the ones that cheated in the first place.

The rule is simple, use VPN if they allowed you and when they don't, move to the next one. Infact, it's best to check this terms before making any deposit, check if KYC is required or not to avoid later story that will break the heart.

Agree with you and in my sense such problems are not common in legit casinos. Because they always provide update news to the gamblers quickly. If there is a change in the rules of the casino, they must inform in advance. Every casino does this and anyone who doesn't do this must be at fault. But I have seen some complaints who speak against them without reading the terms and conditions and at some point they try to explain it as a scam. But when their affairs are investigated, all the allegations of the complainants are proved to be false. So in case of complaints, the trams and conditions should be read first.