Topic: Still not a safe practice even if it works - page 5. (Read 1067 times)

Well, there are many ways to think that the use of the VPN is for bad things, but no, if I, for example, really like being anonymous and being completely anonymous, without leaving traces that can secure me, if I wanted to enter a casino with the same protocol that is used to enter the deepweb, well the casino should accept it, I want to enter like this and neither the casino nor any country should restrict me the way I want to enter, I don't see it well, so they do all this governments with the intention of taking control, not just because players are compulsive and want to do something like that, no, if a player is compulsive and wants to do something similar with or without VPN, they will do it, the technological tools are made is to use them and that is just that governments, banks, third parties, among others, do not like it, so sometimes people think that a VPN is only for doing evil and no, you have to change the approach a bit with respect to that , that sometimes you want to enter a casino, from a country that is prohibited, yes, because the right to have fun should never be diminished, it is a right, I could not say someone who is sitting on a throne or something like that.

I have used the VPN and many times, uff too many, not only for casinos, for excahnges, for many other things, and nothing bad happens, so Sometimes people's Perceptions are Inadequate.


We as gamers do want to enter a gaming Platform using the VPN, we can do it , Perhaps with that we avoid the way that they give our location through VPN, and that for a hacker because it is difficult, and everything to avoid robberies, taking, for me it is welcome, and of course, they are tools that should not be left there, without using them, if they are had it is for use and to give them a correct use, that is why I say something, the time will come for casinos to accept  They are all in their entirety that players from prohibited countries can enter, because there are too many clients that they leave or Outside.

It can be a complicated consideration for someone in some cases. For example, you actively get passive benefits that are proven promising such as staking or dividends, while unfortunately a new casino rule must prohibit you from next week according to your new state policy so that their business remains from legal sanctions. As a result, this change of rule will clearly harm you.

But for compulsive gamblers, they will try to break through restrictions, especially when it is a favorite platform for a long time, an easy solution is to use VPN.

It could happen because withdrawing a large amount of money will attract the attention of the casino so they want to investigate and make sure before they process the withdrawal. And when casinos want to verify winnings by asking gamblers to do KYC, that's where most gamblers complain that the casinos are trying to cheat them. The use of a VPN may be clearly written in the casino rules so gamblers should already know about it. Yes, the price of a premium VPN is currently relatively cheap but if the casino allows it, it can be taken into consideration to use a VPN. But if the casino doesn't allow it, we don't need to use a VPN to visit the casino and gamble there.

I don't use VPNs for stuff like that. It's just counterintuitive especially when it comes to dealing with centralized crypto casinos like stake, they'd literally ask you for identification including a proof of residency, there's no point in "using a VPN to throw them off" when your static IP stays the same all throughout. I'm not saying you should stop using VPNs altogether, as they work really well if you're looking for content that is region blocked like movies on netflix and whatnot, but beyond that? I don't see any good reason really.

For one it just slows your internet connection down since now it has to be rerouted into a proxy server before you could do your normal google searching, on the other hand it's a massive hassle to work with even if it just takes "one click".

If there's no such thing about words about VPN restriction or something then it would really be just that fine on using but why you would really be using VPN if you could be able to play on your own without using those?
Hiding identity or IP or simply just you dont like for your location to be exposed? Its true that it would be better on playing without having these things so that they wont really be having a reason for them to throw on
on the time that you would really be winning big.Dont find any possible holes on which they could really be making it as a reason for you not to be get paid. If you dont bother that much with your anonymity then it
would really be totally no sense that you would be making use of VPN on which this is something that cant really be avoided on the probabilities that they could really make use of such reasoning for you not to get paid.
So its better to avoid while its still early or else you might really be ending up on regretting basing up on what you are really that able to done.

Don't try this because there are certain cases already that the gambler able to play using VPN and when he is about to withdraw the money, he was restricted due to this violation so again, if you are not allowed to play on that site better not to push it or try other way just to gamble on that site because its not safe at all. If you are going to gamble with your money better to follow the TOS, read it and understand it so you won't regret playing on that site if something bad happen to your account.

There's no problem with that if the country has banned online gambling since it's not the platform that has banned the country so it's the other way around.

But as for the verification, you're right with that. The casino has the rights to ask their users from those countries that have banned gambling for follow ups for their own purposes.

Those that would like to hide their IP locations, I don't think that they're few. With the security matters and issues that has been known these days, many are starting to be conscious with their own security.

That's it's normal for them to hide their ip address, we can see this question like a regular question into those casinos if they're okay with that or not.

Absolutely true. If the TOS explicitly prohibit the use of VPNs, it's advisable to not use it and to avoid potential problems with your account, such as being flagged or locked and even if the TOS does not mention VPN usage, less reputable casinos might invalidate huge wins due to VPN usage as you already mentioned.

Generally, it's wiser to refrain from using a VPN as I don't see a genuine need for its use, especially among gamblers who can legally access gambling sites within their countries. However, if accessing such sites is restricted and a VPN is the only option, remember that using it is on your own risk.

It's unfavorable at our end to use VPN, because it have 90% chances that it would definitely lead to the bans and restrictions on our online gambling accounts. What's the essence of using a Virtual Private Network when one can easily use the default data network connection to complete an online tasks. It's not advisable to make use of VPNs for usage of online gambling sites. It's strictly against the terms and conditions of these gambling sites, we just have to make good use of our time to have knowledge of the positive and negatives effects of VPNs before jumping into using them.

Maybe our own opinion? If we want to fully trust the states, then why do we need decentralization and bitcoin? I myself determine what is normal for me, and if there is some kind of moronic law, then for me it does not represent something sacred - its violation is only the price for access to what I need. If I am willing to pay this price, then I take the risk, if not, then no.

but still somehow it is not safe. I mean using a VPN will be a problem in the long term, for example, maybe currently it is safe to access using a VPN but in the future when we get a big win and want to withdraw it, the casino will definitely ask for time to verify your winnings and when investigated you use VPN and be big problem refusing to withdraw your big winnings.
even though the price of a premium VPN is now relatively cheap, I still avoid using a VPN for gambling in the long term.

A few messages up we have seen this user asking whether it is an issue to use VPN.


Which as you said is the right thing to do when there is uncertainty about using it. But honestly what value does this answer from the support agent provide? The answer is almost mystic, it is a riddle that nobody can solve.

When the support agent already comes up with something like "VPN usage can cause technical problems with gameplay and other things running on our site" or so, they are practically telling you that whenever they want, they can play a card against you that you can't prove to be wrong. What if you win big and they say

"we had a glitch in our technology and sadly, we found out that you have been using a VPN, which causes technical problems on our site. We had to void your winnings."

What then? They could even claim that they said so publicly. Everyone would then attack the person complaining about denied payouts.

"See, they told you so, you are to blame!"

But seriously, why would a VPN interfere with their on-site technology that it could cause real technical difficulties? I haven't seen nor have I heard that before.

Stake Casino has quite a list of mirror sites and so far it has worked very well for me, so I don't need to use a VPN to access Stake casino, whereas for fortunejack yes I have to use a VPN to enter my account, and also several other casinos where I play.
Casinos are accustomed to using this tag line because they know that most players prefer to hide their real IP not to cheat but more to privacy.
As long as you are not from the list of countries that are prohibited from playing at the casino then everything will be fine, while KYC in my opinion is another thing and has nothing to do with using a VPN, the casino will indeed ask for KYC even if the player doesn't use a VPN to follow the rules of the casino license is registered.
If a player is worried that using a VPN will endanger their account, then ask more specifically about the problems they will face if they use a VPN directly from the casino's support agent.

Apart from the fact that people don't care, many people still can't sacrifice some minutes to read through casinos terms and conditions, They get tired of reading when they open ToS because it's full of words, and yet they plan to use VPN on their own, I don't know how they come up with the idea when the online casino is not saying anything about using VPN or Not, I will like to ask a casino customer care services about this question and see how they will respond to it, just for fun sake.

Rules and regulation is very important in every aspect, either online or offline, keeping to the rules and regulations will safe gamblers from someone taking advantage of them, it's just like the cop at stop and search routine, if you don't break any rules and the cop still want to deal with you, maybe because of hates or other reasons they will start finding every possible way to get you nailed, the only way to stay ahead of them is you not breaking a single rule.

I also experienced this before but after I saw that there was a provider's card that could help me get past the ban, I finally used the service from that provider. I didn't break it, did I?

But if you want to use a VPN, you should use a paid VPN so that your privacy is better maintained and you won't be fighting over connections with other people. Moreover, the price of paid VPNs is now not too expensive anymore because there is competition among these VPN companies so they are competing to provide satisfying services at affordable prices.

How can VPN lead to errors in your gameplay and overall, how can it affect your experience? I think she just wants people to avoid VPN and that's why she says what she says. Overall, if you use a VPN with dedicated IP, I think casinos won't be able to know whether you use a VPN or not but if they ask you for KYC documents, then you really shouldn't be from banned countries in order to avoid problems and account freeze. But I also must say that dedicated IP from VPN doesn't really make you anonymous because that IP is tracked back to you. By doing that, you simply hide from your ISP that you are gambling but your VPN provider really knows what you actually do, it's 50/50 whether they log you or not but what increases your anonymity when you use VPN is the use of shared IPs but if you use shared IPs on casino, there is a very high chance that you use the blacklisted one and your account will get banned.
So, anyways, be smart whatever you decide to do.

Using a VPN and due to the fact that the government prohibits certain services is an additional headache for the average user, including me in a similar situation. You have to constantly look for working VPN, and if one of them works today, it does not mean that it will work tomorrow. You are right, there is a possibility that the government will start asking you questions and fine you. Most of all, I don't like the following application: hackers through an unnamed vpn (if it uses the standard point—to-point PPTP tunneling protocol) can hack your channel and receive data. At the same time, they can wait for decent money to be on your gaming account, and only after that they will be hacked. I had this but with a Jaxx wallet.

I would only be wary of VPN concessions not being explicitly written on the user terms page although support may write that elsewhere. When problem solving has to be handled by handing over identities, it becomes a new problem if it's basically a country on the list of restrictions. For shady casinos, this might be an opportunity to cancel out a big win.

It's best if you read the TOS on the casino platform in question to find out their rules regarding the use of a VPN, because some allow it but some don't. But as far as I know, the casino platform you mentioned does not recommend using a VPN on their platform because it can cause errors or any other reason. It's best if it's not too important you can avoid using a VPN, but if circumstances force it, for example to bypass a ban in a country, you can use it, but you have to take the risk because it can get your account banned due to suspicious activity.

Because the problem of violating restrictions in countries that prohibit online gambling is clear, so users still can't complain about anything because that's also written in the regulations in casinos. If they could understand that they shouldn't, they would not have such a problem and would still be able to gamble elsewhere. But what often happens is that users still visit the casino because they have found the comfort of playing gambling at the casino so they use a VPN to continue to gamble at the casino. This triggers such problems so that even the customers accuse the casino of being irresponsible or even a scam casino because the customers have had problems like that even though they were the ones who started it until they got the problem. It is very important to follow the rules in the casino to avoid problems that may make us uncomfortable playing gambling at the casino.

And the only thing we can do is look for other casinos that can allow VPN use so we won't have any problems. Some users find it convenient to use a VPN to hide their IP while gaming and avoid surveillance by their internet provider. But it can get them into trouble if they don't want to realize it.