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Quote from: noormcs5 on August 28, 2023, 11:09:32 AM

Even if you keep on playing through VPN on gambling sites and not getting banned or something like that, it does not mean that you will keep on playing forever. Someday if you get caught, the gambling site will ban you and you will lose all the balance on that site.

The best approach is first to check with the gambling site if they allow VPN or not. If VPN is allowed on the gambling site then you can play using VPN else better avoid using it.
You can also get this information about VPN usage on the terms and conditions page on the casino's web site.

Some gamblers use the option of vpn to play the same game with different user name.Actually to my opinion it’s not the good one,we should not take the chance of the other people.Instead you can ask your brothers or sisters to play the gambling along with you.If they win also leads to the chance of money get into to your family pocket.

Mostly the website itself find the VPN usage and block the account.Some gamblers will enjoy to play using the VPN and earn more win from it.But as you said,if any had their huge winnings in the website.After the capture by the website owners,the entire money which he earned will be loss.The website will block the withdraw along with the ban their account.So try to play the gambling with some ethics in order to avoid such ban.

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A few days ago I used a VPN for gambling because there was a ban on the casino. I used a free VPN and visited the site, but it didn't work, the site still blocked me. I tried on another site and it worked. Is there any difference between using a paid VPN and a free VPN to access gambling sites?

If you are in a country where gambling is allowed, I don't think it's necessary to use a VPN. Even so, using a VPN or not is a personal need, some people really value their privacy so they are more comfortable with a VPN. But I agree with what you said, we should look at the ToS, whether their site allows using a VPN or not.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I hear this argument all the time and i think it's made by people who don't get the point. It would be illegal for casinos to approve citizens of sanctioned countries. If casinos would get caught doing that intentionally there would be trouble with a big T.

So it doesn't make any sense that they would risk it. What i gather is that those people are misunderstanding why vpn could be sometimes needed. Example if citizens of approved countries are visiting on restricting countries so their ip might get blocked and they could need a proxy workaround. I mean that's the only way i see it even being legal.

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There is a reason why using a VPN can be to open games on certain providers but it is not recommended if you want to be more secure then avoid VPNs even though the casino is friendly to VPNs, but there have been many cases that will later make your account suspicious and there can impose document verification on you.

I don't use a VPN to avoid what I don't want in there are some providers that can't be opened then I will choose other games, anyone looking at the TOS or asking first to live chat to make sure.

But I'm sure if you're an active VPN user you'll get stuck in a casino one day.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on August 28, 2023, 04:19:10 AM

^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
I currently making an account on Stake.com and I read the TOS which is you are right about, there is no state there regarding VPN but I think if you are in the US you can use VPN based on many articles that I have read.
I asked the Stake.com team regarding this and this is what I have got, they strongly discourage using VPNs.

Reading TOS is much better before using the casino.

This is still a vague response by them. I have never heard that using a VPN could cause technical problems like the ones mentioned in the chat you shared. How would it cause errors in the gameplay?

When you ask why some people use VPN when gambling is legal in their country, it doesn't always have to do with the gambling itself. Using a VPN can be an additional layer of privacy protection although it's known that most providers share data when they claim they don't. But as a layer to not be fully naked on the Internet I believe that many people use it. The intention doesn't have to be one that involves manipulation of a location to get onto a gambling platform.

VPNs are so common that I wish gambling platforms had a clear stance on that. If they already say that VPNs could cause errors in gameplay "and some other aspects of the site", what could someone do when they claim that one of your wins was because of an error caused by your VPN?

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I tried using a VPN on Stake and if it's not from a country they support, they won't even let you log in.

Tried using Stake in UK, US, and German VPNs and they won't recognize your account if you're from another region. I'm from Asia and what works for me is only a Singapore VPN. Other countries, I would need to create an account for that specific jurisdiction.

While it's true that these casinos may allow you to use a VPN, they might just have a lot of 'regions' setup for different countries for compliance purposes. It's annoying, but I get what the casinos are trying to achieve. At least, they don't ban me for using VPN to access my accounts.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Even if you keep on playing through VPN on gambling sites and not getting banned or something like that, it does not mean that you will keep on playing forever. Someday if you get caught, the gambling site will ban you and you will lose all the balance on that site.

The best approach is first to check with the gambling site if they allow VPN or not. If VPN is allowed on the gambling site then you can play using VPN else better avoid using it.
You can also get this information about VPN usage on the terms and conditions page on the casino's web site.

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Everything will start from checking the rules carried out by users so they know what is allowed and what is not allowed. If they want to use a VPN but the rules don't say anything about VPN, they can directly ask the support service and I'm sure they will give you the answers you need right away. Some casinos don't clearly write it down on their site, so we have to ask the support service. But some casinos only need your connection to the casino for the first time so that the casino can record your computer number or your IP or Mac Address or whatever (I don't know about this because I'm not too clear on this either).

If it is about crossing the line, maybe if you are from a country where gambling is not allowed, you should stay away from the casinos and never visit them, even though you can use a VPN. If your country allows gambling but the casino prohibits people from your country from gambling in the casino, you should not gamble in the casino even if you are using a VPN. You can get many things from asking the support service. Don't be shy to ask because they will answer it.

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Restrictions on the use of VPNs come primarily not from casinos, but from local authorities. I have a paid VPN and from some servers I can enter the casinos in which I am registered, and from some not. This is incredibly annoying, especially in my conditions when the state introduces total censorship and tries to ban all VPNs. The good thing is that big casinos always have a long list of mirrors that help to get around the restrictions.

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Quote from: elevates on August 28, 2023, 06:38:34 AM

I guess you don't understand the reason why VPN is used by a casino users. Let me explain you the reason in simple language. Most countries have either banned online gambling or prohibit users to gamble on online casinos based overseas. In such situation a user from that country would use a VPN, without it they won't be able to access a casino website or hide themselves from the government.

Those casinos that you have named will ask their user to pass KYC. After they pass KYC only then they would be allowed to withdraw their win. Through the KYC verification they know the customer and in the event of illegal activities they would be provide the details to the concerned authorities.

I understand the concept of using a VPN for accessing online casinos, but it's important to note that the legality and ethical implications of such actions can vary based on local regulations. While using a VPN might allow users to bypass restrictions, it's not a foolproof method and can still raise concerns about compliance with both casino policies and legal standards. Additionally, KYC procedures are indeed implemented by many reputable casinos to ensure responsible and legal gambling practices. However, it's essential for users to be aware of the potential risks and consequences associated with using VPNs in this context.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I think as long as KYC is completed and both parties agree that the user will use a VPN, it should be allowed, but as a rule of thumb, VPNs are very suspicious, especially if the user has not completed the KYC process. Should the user be gambling from a country which is not allowed by the terms and conditions of the mentioned casino, then obviously the casino owners would get into legal trouble for letting him play and withdraw on their platform. They have government regulations that they have to follow, after all. So when they see someone logging in with a different IP each time, it raises an eyebrow. Furthermore, it could trigger a false positive should the VPN IP come from a restricted country. Its a lot of confusion and trouble which can be avoided.

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I guess you don't understand the reason why VPN is used by a casino users. Let me explain you the reason in simple language. Most countries have either banned online gambling or prohibit users to gamble on online casinos based overseas. In such situation a user from that country would use a VPN, without it they won't be able to access a casino website or hide themselves from the government.

Those casinos that you have named will ask their user to pass KYC. After they pass KYC only then they would be allowed to withdraw their win. Through the KYC verification they know the customer and in the event of illegal activities they would be provide the details to the concerned authorities.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

The use VPN is already discussed many times on different casino ANN thread. Casino doesn’t specifically restrict users on using VPN. Only those bypassing their country restrictions through the use of VPN is what is not allowed and not the use of VPN itself for regular use alone. Casino has a license which includes a set a of country being restricted to play due to legal concern.

If you are not from restricted country then using VPN is not your problem. I’m using for a long time in all casino that I play. I never encounter this issue. Just make sure to avoid using VPN that use IP sharing because you might be connected to bunch of account that violate the casino ToS because your account will suffer same punishment.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Much better to play safe and stay away using VPN since we don't know on when we might encounter a problem by using it so much better that we are sure to what we are doing while playing on those casino.

If you know your country has been restricted to access on casino then you should know that you are not allowed to play so don't think about using that since I think its not about the usage but the restriction due to the law set by certain countries which for us needed to follow.

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If I really needed to use VPN for a casino or any service online which involves money or finances I would try to first know in what country they are based and then do my own research whether if the authorities of that country actually enforce the prohibition of VPNs in the companies they are supposed to regulate.

Since we are talking about our data, money and security credentials, I would not risk using a VPN solely based on the behavior of the platform or the opinion/ experiences or other users/ gamblers. If this situation with Russia and the sanctions have taught me about, is that casinos can treat a costumer according to where they are connecting from.

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The majority of casinos do not allow the use of VPN based on the terms that they put in there for their users to be aware of, but if it is not there we should not assume that the casinos allow it, We need to ask for support first and keep a record of the conversation and always check the TOS if they change their TOS regarding the use of VPN, if it's possible not to use VPN then do so, so you can protect your account in case there is an investigation about your account.

Casinos always limit disabled accounts that violate their terms so while you're playing in a casino, it is important that you keep the TOS in your mind.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

You really need to read the terms and understand how each casino handles VPN usage, because some will ban it outright. Others may allow it but will definitely expect KYC verification and always tend to limit you to one account only, because they don't want bonus abuse to take place. However VPN usage can sometimes go undetected, alternatively it might be a red flag against your account that will cause the casino to undertake further investigations against you - if they can determine you are a user of this service. Generally there are very few scenarios where an average user would be using a VPN middleman service on their connect, unless they are trying to get around certain restrictions like geographic location.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

I think that Stake has alternative links which you can access without a VPN as far as I know and even when I used to play at bet365 when in my country was restricted from ISP-s here,I could access them without a VPN so most likely beside Stake also other casinos most probably should have alternative links.

I would only use a VPN in the extreme case where I have no other means at all to access the website and accessing only a couple of times I doubt there is any problem with the casinos,as long as you have 2FA enabled that makes it even less suspicious as 2FA with Google Authenticator app and not with SMS is absolutely impossible to be bypassed.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino?

This is not a statement enough to prove that their platform totally support for the use of VPN, they cannot sat at the fence, it's either they accept the use of VPN or they kicked against it completely, this will now depends on the statement on their ToS which would have clearly mentioned that they accept or doesn't accept the use of VPN, the question we should then also be desperate in asking is the reason why a user must make use of a VPN if not to byepass a sanction on their ip address, if a casino support your ip why the use of VPN, if they don't then why not make another attempts on many other available ones.

Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.A

If you're using VPN then know that it's at your own risk, ones you're caught be ready to dance to the tune of the music you play.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 28, 2023, 03:28:13 AM

I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

Much better to read their TOS or ask them directly if they're allowing that. Having that clarification will give you the idea if that's really allowed or not.

And when they does then those influencers are right. If not, then that means that you just saved yourself from obtaining misinformation and you're able to clear it before you even does.

Some of them aren't really allowing it but I know that there are those that allows it, it's just all about checking it actually from those casinos per se.

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