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legendary
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September 14, 2023, 01:51:50 PM
There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 
I believe that this is going to be something that would be changing the world in a different method. I know that it is not going to be able to get to a point where it will be simple, but we can do this and it should be the most important part.

I know that life is not that simple like "let's not use VPN and we will be fine", because some people have to, but at the very least, if you do not "have to" use it, then you should not use it. That would be the most important part of it. I realize that life is expensive and we could end up with some issues, but no matter what happens we are going to end up with a lot of trouble. I know that VPN could cause issues so if you can avoid it, try to avoid it whenever you can.
legendary
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September 14, 2023, 01:34:35 PM
I have seen a few pieces of content online that are saying Stake, Fortune Jack, Casino Gap and few others are VPN-friendly.

Are users on here agreeing on these few mentioned online casino? I am asking this because I believe those who still use VPN on these casinos are not safe.

Because using a VPN is not openly acceptable by these online casinos, there is no where it's written on their website, I know readers might feel like, why would they wrote such on their website when the law isn't permitting such?

Well, what will stop them from using this against you too as a gambler? Bypassing restrictions is not the problem, but it was never allowed officially, meaning you should accept whatever will be thrown in your face.

What do you think?

It's very dangerous to use VPN's when using any sort of gambling site, because most of the time they will have clauses in their terms of service which prohibit you from using methods which hide your location. VPN's may be considered common in usage to the general public now, but their intended purpose is to funnel traffic through a different location before reaching you. All of the calculations that casinos and bookmakers put into their sites, primarily all of the offers that they use to entice new users and keep regulars playing, rely on every single account being genuine. Using a "fake" internet dress, or hiding behind a VPN, can often be abused by malicious users when they want to target a certain site which is why they discourage their use.
hero member
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September 14, 2023, 01:24:46 PM
^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Perhaps they think that they can get away with VPN and then continue to play. But once the casino has found what you are doing then, obviously, they will have to check everything once you withdraw some of your winnings.

So I don't believed that there are VPN friendly casinos though, I mean yeah, they might be saying that they are allowing it. But maybe if you used it where you resides to a country that they are ban, then you might have a problem later.
sr. member
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September 14, 2023, 11:07:21 AM
^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
Once you know the  rules and Regulations of the gambling site then why you should not avoid to make those mistakes in short once a gambling avoid users to Use VPN then why you should try that one. Then if you caught in it then you should  100% face your consequences cause we are all know that casino will definitely do an action about that maybe they will bann your account or else ask for KYC.
sr. member
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September 14, 2023, 10:41:15 AM
^Why you are using VPNs if a casino is allowed in your country? Or you can freely open the website.
Why do people break rules and cry foul when it is time to face the consequences.

If you are in a region where gambling is allowed, why use a VPN to access a casino? If you are in a region where gambling is not allowed and it is also against the rules of the casino to access their website using a VPN, why use it? When it is time to verify your account and you need to submit you KYC, what are you going to do then?

Maybe the only place where a person can get away with using VPN for a casino is in a casino that doesn't require address verification and an ID check.
legendary
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September 14, 2023, 04:12:01 AM
There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.

Everyone who uses VPN when gambling should realize that it can play a cruel joke if he wins a large sum of money. I try not to use VPN during gambling sessions, but since in my country it is impossible to use free Internet without using means to bypass blocking, I almost always work with VPN. Sometimes it happens that I have already entered the casino and made the first bet and only then noticed that I use VPN. 
hero member
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September 14, 2023, 03:59:23 AM
If there are no mentions or these words been stated on a certain platform then it would really be just that telling that its been allowed or simply its not prohibited and if you are a fan of making use of VPN on hiding your real ip or location then its your choice but honestly its better not to bother or hassle yourself on making use of VPN if you are really that allowed to play on a certain platform.

Somewhat i havent been able to encounter some issues or problems about sudden problems about VPN matters just because i have used VPN and been sued out or facing some problems because of it.
It would really be that a shady part of them or on a platform on having those kind of lock ups because of VPN use even its not really that been stated on their TOS on which a certain user would really be
able to contest out and make some argumentation on that part.

This is why if you are that type of being paranoid or advanced thinking about possible issues might happen then it would be better not to make use at all.
It would really be that risky if you do decide on making use of it even though its allowed or not really that being mentioned in the first place.
Yes, that's why we have to make sure whether using a VPN is allowed or prohibited so that we don't get into trouble. And usually, the casinos have said it clearly in their rules. But if the regulations don't say anything about VPN, we have to contact support to find out the status of using a VPN.

But we already know that there are casinos that allow the use of VPN and others that don't. And it's our job to find out about the permissions by contacting the support service. And if the casino really doesn't allow the use of VPN, it's better if we don't use it or we can look for a casino that allows the use of VPN by its users so that we can freely use the VPN. If the casino prohibits the use of VPN but we still use it, maybe later we will have problems that confuse us about how to solve them.

Yes, it's better to find out about the casino first before we use VPN because this has something to do with other things. That is why when using this VPN, we must be wise and follow the rules written in the casino and comply with them.
hero member
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September 14, 2023, 02:40:59 AM
Just like you I think it's a good thing that VPN is not allowed to some well known casino to reduce or to eliminate the possible effects of gambling addiction but it all boils down to the addicted gambler. An addicted person will find a way to continue their vices even if it mean to gamble on a physical casino that operates illegally.
Furthermore, I think an addicted individuals will try to find some alternatives even bypassing VPN restrictions and it's not that difficult these days with booming technologies.

VPN are not acceptable by gambling sites, it's always introduced in their terms and conditions because these VPNs have their various negative effects towards online gambling accounts. Wagering online will fasten the entire process because online gambling happens to be one of the very best techniques that a gambler can easily earned from the comfort of one's home without any intervention of the third party. Gambling ban in most countries, is a beneficial option for the citizens because the government have just save them from the hands of gambling. Still yet, alot of people argued and are interested in gambling by all means.
They're prohibited but if the casino itself doesn't finds it out that some individuals are using it, they'll continue on it of course. There are cases that even if gambling ban is ruling in the country there are even more illegal gambling activities that happens because of it, it may be beneficial to citizens but the government will find it hard to cope with in real life scenarios.
sr. member
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September 13, 2023, 05:27:48 PM
Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
VPN are not acceptable by gambling sites, it's always introduced in their terms and conditions because these VPNs have their various negative effects towards online gambling accounts. Wagering online will fasten the entire process because online gambling happens to be one of the very best techniques that a gambler can easily earned from the comfort of one's home without any intervention of the third party. Gambling ban in most countries, is a beneficial option for the citizens because the government have just save them from the hands of gambling. Still yet, alot of people argued and are interested in gambling by all means.
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 03:28:59 PM
Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
Is it a good thing for you that they don't accept VPN? I think if you're really addicted and VPN isn't really helping you to play, that's likely a blessing in disguise for you to mitigate that addiction of yours. Well, yes that's true there's no compulsion in it but if you're addicted it's yourself that's being compulsive in the first place and that's not a good thing.
It depends on how he see it. It's a blessing in disguise if gambling affects you negatively heavily and somehow planning to quit gambling but for people who just became an addicted to gambling, it's a hassle for them to find casino that they know they can play without worrying the possible problem of using VPN and the country ban.

Just like you I think it's a good thing that VPN is not allowed to some well known casino to reduce or to eliminate the possible effects of gambling addiction but it all boils down to the addicted gambler. An addicted person will find a way to continue their vices even if it mean to gamble on a physical casino that operates illegally.
hero member
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September 13, 2023, 01:27:25 PM
Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
Is it a good thing for you that they don't accept VPN? I think if you're really addicted and VPN isn't really helping you to play, that's likely a blessing in disguise for you to mitigate that addiction of yours. Well, yes that's true there's no compulsion in it but if you're addicted it's yourself that's being compulsive in the first place and that's not a good thing.
hero member
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September 13, 2023, 01:10:07 PM
There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens,, in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
The first thing any gambler should do is to read the terms of service of any casino before registering. If the policy allows gamers to use VPN, that's okay. There is no need to use a VPN when it is prohibited in a casino. Most gamblers are sometimes enticed by attractive bonuses or other benefits so they want to bypass their restrictions with VPN. This act doesn't only violate the TOS, but it is also risky.

You can lose your funds if the casino discovers that you are using VPN and you will have no right to seek refunds or a lifting of ban or restriction placed on your account. Another issue is when you have any problem with your account, you might be asked to present some KYC document which will now indicate that you have violated the terms of service. If you do a good search,  you will discover many casinos that suit your style and income. So there is no need to invade restrictions placed on some countries by casinos.
hero member
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September 13, 2023, 12:55:34 PM
Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.
However, users should ensure that the casino allows users to use VPN because otherwise, it will only cause problems. For this reason, users can ask the support service about VPN usage problems or even send an email to the casino to find out the VPN usage status. If they allow it, it means users can freely use a VPN but should use a paid VPN to reduce IP usage from many people simultaneously.

The casino allows those from countries on its blacklist to visit its casino and gamble. But for those from countries on the blacklist, the casino strictly prohibits them from visiting the casino. There may be a special policy from the casino so that the casino completely prohibits them from visiting its casino and is not allowed to gamble in its casino. Maybe there are separate regulations from the regulator so that casinos must comply with them, but that will not reduce the number of visitors from other countries.
If there are no mentions or these words been stated on a certain platform then it would really be just that telling that its been allowed or simply its not prohibited and if you are a fan of making use of VPN on hiding your real ip or location then its your choice but honestly its better not to bother or hassle yourself on making use of VPN if you are really that allowed to play on a certain platform.

Somewhat i havent been able to encounter some issues or problems about sudden problems about VPN matters just because i have used VPN and been sued out or facing some problems because of it.
It would really be that a shady part of them or on a platform on having those kind of lock ups because of VPN use even its not really that been stated on their TOS on which a certain user would really be
able to contest out and make some argumentation on that part.

This is why if you are that type of being paranoid or advanced thinking about possible issues might happen then it would be better not to make use at all.
It would really be that risky if you do decide on making use of it even though its allowed or not really that being mentioned in the first place.
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Vave.com
September 13, 2023, 12:52:36 PM
I know vpn is not required to account on gambling sites because there are many gambling sites which are complicated to be blocked by other country's government. It is indeed true that gambling is prohibited in some number of countries and even from those countries you can gamble secretly through your device. Gambling is banned in my country but actually I am an addicted gambler so online gambling is my addiction which helps me to play in privacy. Moreover, many casino sites do not accept vpn, so if you use vpn there, your account may be closed. There is no compulsion to gamble so it is your personal freedom.
legendary
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September 13, 2023, 12:42:59 PM
I wonder why they still intend to gamble in casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs. Why don't they look for a casino that won't give them a hard time if they use a VPN? Maybe they need to think about this because it will relate to their gambling account later. And the casino will ask them to do KYC if they find out about using the VPN.
Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.

I commented about something similar in my last post in another thread, people seem to not understand the gravity or seriousness of some things, when you read the casinos' TOS you realize that it is a TOS that was made to respect government regulations, mainly for the country that issued the license when this government that issued the license wants to check the casino and read the casino's TOS to see that the casino is following the laws. so the casinos in their TOS don't say anything about VPN permission, they say that people must give true data when the customer creates an account at the casino, and they go further in this part

in which they say that customers must provide true data at the casino, they specify that all customers must enter the casino with their real IP, so this clearly means that people should not use vpn in casinos, in another point in the casinos' TOS they put the list of banned countries, they are governments that have banned casinos or have been sanctioned, casinos just have to comply with the law in not allowing people from those countries to use the casino, as sad as that is

Now when a casino representative tells people: "you can use VPN even if you are from a restricted and prohibited country". These words are beautiful and can provide some comfort, but people need to remember that what matters most will always be the casino's TOS, as long as the casino's TOS is there banning the use of VPN, banning people from restricted countries so People should not be deceived and deceived, they should be realistic and not put a lot of money in the casino, because at any time the casino can invoke the TOS and freeze the funds of all people who are using VPN
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September 13, 2023, 05:30:11 AM
There are other casinos that do not allow others to use a VPN because it is against their policy and rules on the platform. But other gamblers are stubborn; instead of following what is forbidden, they will still do what they shouldn't. So what often happens in the end is that when they withdraw their gambling winnings, they end up in their account's treasury because the gambling platform will see and know that there has been abuse or dummy accounts, which they can't do anything about.
hero member
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September 13, 2023, 03:59:26 AM
Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.
However, users should ensure that the casino allows users to use VPN because otherwise, it will only cause problems. For this reason, users can ask the support service about VPN usage problems or even send an email to the casino to find out the VPN usage status. If they allow it, it means users can freely use a VPN but should use a paid VPN to reduce IP usage from many people simultaneously.

The casino allows those from countries on its blacklist to visit its casino and gamble. But for those from countries on the blacklist, the casino strictly prohibits them from visiting the casino. There may be a special policy from the casino so that the casino completely prohibits them from visiting its casino and is not allowed to gamble in its casino. Maybe there are separate regulations from the regulator so that casinos must comply with them, but that will not reduce the number of visitors from other countries.
legendary
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September 12, 2023, 05:08:11 AM
I wonder why they still intend to gamble in casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs. Why don't they look for a casino that won't give them a hard time if they use a VPN? Maybe they need to think about this because it will relate to their gambling account later. And the casino will ask them to do KYC if they find out about using the VPN.
Yes, even though there are many big sites that allow the use of VPN, other than that it is used for the right things and problems, for example the site is blocked by the government and prohibits access to gambling sites so you need a VPN to access it, I don't think that will be a problem as long as the use is correct. although I'm not a VPN user I think in support of it all it seems that VPN use should not be an issue in any casino.

If casinos really want to get more visitors and users, they have to open the gate, because not all countries can access gambling sites easily, sometimes there are governments that block gambling sites, so the use of VPN should be excluded so that they can get active gamblers throughout world. but if there is a casino that makes it difficult it should be abandoned.
hero member
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September 12, 2023, 04:52:30 AM

AFAIK, some casinos strictly prohibit the usage of VPNs on their websites. However, in most cases, it is only prohibited when attempting to mask the real location for illegal purposes.

The risk is that you will most likely be asked for KYC verification in order for the casino to confirm your identity and the source of your funds. But if you pass it, I see no issue with using a VPN during your gambling sessions on any of the sites you mentioned.

Obviously, everyone is prohibited from using VPN to conceal your real location, but I don't see any point using VPN other than for that specific reason. Well, I know VPN could protect you from some sort of digital attack, but If you don't have anything really important from your device or if it has not store massive amount of data or any financial information, I don't see any point using it, you are just taking the risk of you getting your casino account being investigated for using VPN as most casinos does not advise it.
If they can find a casino that allows VPN use, of course, they can freely use VPN. But usually, casinos prohibit it and it is written in the rules so that users who hide their real location cannot use VPN unless they ask permission from the casino first.

If they want to protect their data from digital attacks, they can use other devices because it will not impact their data. Those who stick with VPNs are taking a risk with their gambling accounts because the casino can find out easily and may take necessary action.

I wonder why they still intend to gamble in casinos that prohibit the use of VPNs. Why don't they look for a casino that won't give them a hard time if they use a VPN? Maybe they need to think about this because it will relate to their gambling account later. And the casino will ask them to do KYC if they find out about using the VPN.
legendary
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September 12, 2023, 12:44:54 AM

I am not saying anything about having to enter a casino with a VPN because it is a way to enjoy a casino, but there is also something to keep in mind, if the Tos says that the use is not accepted VPN then nothing to do, the player has everything to lose, so if that's the case, don't start inventing. In any case, there will come a time when casinos will begin to accept people who use the VPN, so in this order of ideas we could wait a little longer to be able to enjoy a casino as it is, and without restrictions, I know that bitcasino.io does not have more problems with the use of the VPN, in fact it has a very interesting article about the VPN and the use of it, so when it comes to casinos and everything about VPN I don't know how much the fuss is about not wanting to do things Well regarding that, I can see that due to some government restrictions they cannot be carried out, but little by little these things will diminish because it is known that these casinos live because people need them.



The most of the gambler won’t like to use the website with the VPN,being a crypto gambler it’s very hard to rotate all the money in the gambling.If the gamblers used the VPN,all the money you had won will be lost.It also the loss for the money you had used for playing the gambling gameIf you play with the VPN,the game can be banned at any time.Even some gambling sites allow their not covered area like Islamic state to use of the VPN.In such place the playing game itself hard,So VPN was allowed their.When the player play with VPN,he need to play the entire game with the fear of ban.

Yes, now things have changed a lot, usually in 2017 when you entered a casino you could do it with any protocol, because there were not so many things that whether you used VPN or not, what mattered at that time was that people entered the casino people and people , who had Traffic, it did not matter to them where it was from or if it was from whatever place, what was interesting for that moment was that they came in to play and that they Interacted , that they left money, that they deposited, and when they won cheaply. or he lost no matter what , if he had to withdraw, then he would withdraw without commitments to KYC or to comply with whether he had a VPN or not , I think that is what all this should be about, now the player who does it from anywhere in the world with a VPN is not cheating , it is Skipping all the parts that do not let him be him or let him have fun , I think that very Few casinos have Managed to Understand that and the truth is I don't know why they don't try to do Something so simple, as I said , there is Some casinos don't care if they make or use VPN , if they can, why not others?

If things work well for others, why not for some casinos that can allow this use of VPN? The only way I see that they cannot use it is if they have it established in the Tos, things that I see as unnecessary, because I know that in the future things are Going to change, and VPNs will no longer be the things that prevent playing, nor will KYC because they will be minimal, just knowing the identification of the person and the location I consider that is sufficient, so now the question is whether it can be allowed, but because the people will Seek to be more anonymous, the part they will have is that the casinos they offer The most proven and Anonymous are the ones who will be most sought after, this is only what I think will happen, however I don't know if what I See or think will be the case in the future, but the KYC thing, the VPN thing will be something What they will forget , what they will look for will be something else , I also don't think that decentralized casinos will be able to Compete with Centralized Casinos.
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