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Fundamentally determined by luck? Bro sit down in your house and do nothing them, if you have a good lucky charm your money will find it's way to you, since you won't be needing any effort, I don't hate luck but I will never sit back and hope for some luck, if you don't invest money on Bitcoin you missed the chance, probably because we never thought that Bitcoin will be successful, how about Ethereum or BNB, or LTC?

Invest your money and maybe you will get lucky that the coin you choose do a 1000x, but not doing a thing? Things don't work that way. I wonder where my encouragement comes from, if all I believe in is luck, damn I wouldn't have taken any steps at all and my situation would have been much more worsen
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I think so, success is determined by luck, not effort, the real proof that I see in life is that there are many rich and successful people who according to the rules he shouldn't be successful, I have a friend who didn't graduate at school, but after several years in the restaurant business now I have employees are around 30 people, and there are employees when schools often get top rankings.

Success doesn't come from going to school so don't think because someone didn't go to school that they won't be successful. Success comes from discipline, dedicating your life to achieve a goal and be focused while trying to achieve that goal. Your friend mightn't have gone to school but he had something many people don't have and that's dedication to their goals.

Success doesn't come from luck, that's gambling. Some people gamble and become successful but it doesn't mean luck equals to success. If you get your money from luck, you might lose it and can't make it back but anybody that got theirs through hardworks can rebuild.
plus. the pain of being someone who doesn't exist or has nothing is very painful to feel every day. this is what makes people successful because discipline tries hard to change a bitter life to be better than yesterday. This bitter life experience is often remembered as being a driver of rapid change so as not to be oppressed.
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effort number 1, after that just luck.
Without trying luck will never come, you will not be successful by expecting luck without the support of effort. OK, I'm trying to understand the concept you're talking about about success by luck. Have you ever imagined that a lazy person can achieve success by hoping for luck alone? Obviously it's impossible, to achieve success there needs to be effort, without effort luck will never come.
Effort, intelligence in seeing opportunities and luck, these three elements are interconnected in achieving success.
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Achieving success also has a hint of luck. Why? Because they had those big opportunities that changes their business and lives for the better. Not everyone can have the same opportunity so they're lucky to have those. But of course, it wouldn't just be a pure luck since they didn't let those opportunity to lose. They also worked hard for those opportunity to come and worked harder to not waste the opportunity. Also, they worked hard on maintaining the success they achieved so it's both a luck and effort.  That's why I also believe that we all have different opportunities, and it's up to us whether we'll take it or not. Cause those small and big opportunities can change our lives.
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Recently I have had numerous reunions with Uncles from my extended family. Some of them are successful businessmen for decades. They built their business from nothing and are living quite a comfortable life now. We had long conversations about life in general, including their key to success. I knew very well that they have been hard workers ever since I had a memory so I would contribute their success to endless efforts. However, one thing they had mentioned in common was luck. They believe pure luck made them meet and grasp those opportunities and become successful rather than their smartness and efforts. I've thought about this before and couldn't agree with this more. They've set very good examples to me, including my father, and now I tend to focus more on work itself consistently and let luck or fate takes the rest.

Well I don't believe something like success is determined by luck but luck is affecting our effort because luck won't appear if we don't do any effort, just like opportunities won't come if we only stay at home. Something like that will make some people who are unlucky give up quickly if they don't have good luck after a few tries since we know a lot of successful people out there become successful after a lot of tries and that is because they keep their effort going on.
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it really involves luck but those people that are working so hard but still not succeed is that they dont have a lot of opportunities meaning they are only working so hard like there is no tomorrow but  they missed other opportunities or lets say bad decisions. It has really luck involved to it because lets say while working someone noticed your hardworking and your capability which they will hire your or asked the CEO to increase your salary, there are really instances that we cant control which that is luck

A person does not have many opportunities, which means they are not lucky enough. Luck appears a lot in our lives, and I believe it plays an important role, but many people deny it. If they don't have luck, then no matter how hard they try, they will never succeed. Honestly, I am where I am today because of luck. I used to be a worker and worked very hard, I never dared to think about big things like houses, cars, or real estate because I knew where I was in society. But luck came to me when a friend helped and recommended a job I had never known. Currently, my life is very well off and stable thanks to my job. Although I have worked hard, there is no denying that without luck, I would never have had the opportunity to do a job I know nothing about.
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Success in life requires luck and hard work. Those who have good luck, work on time and always take advantage of opportunities achieve success in life.  

There is a class of people who want to achieve success in life without any hard work and if they believe in their luck then success will come to them one day but this is not the case God has given everyone a good luck and asked everyone to change that luck through hard work now if we do any kind of hard work  If we don't just wait for luck then we will never be successful. To achieve success there is no substitute for hard work and determination.
There is no substitute for work to change fate or luck. Those who are working hard fate always with them. In some cases, something different can happen, but it will not be effective for everyone. If I talk about the owner of the FedEx, he was not just depend on the fate. He worked hard at first and he was almost fail at once but he did not give up. At one stage when he got some extra money through gambling by his luck, he gave that money again in his business and later he succeeded. The owner of the FedEx Smith not only rely on the fate, he had also hard work.
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I don't agree that success is based on luck rather than effort. it's because luck won't come if we don't try. The meaning, in this case, is that not all of our businesses can be successful, but by trying to find the best business, you will get a business that can make you successful. Is that lucky? no, it is done with effort and hard work. in fact, building a business or running a business is included in the effort. You will not get success just by waiting for luck. no one is successful if they just watch tv and sleep in their room waiting for their luck.

It is not like gambling that you are sitting and betting some small money on it and waiting for bigger return, life is not like that. I agree with you that lucks attract hard work that is why those rich people will always say that do your very best and be hard working on something for sure you'll be able to get that and the luck is just a 2nd factor on it. Relying on luck is not a good idea for sure you'll not going to be successful on it as it is still another term for lazy stuff.

It is true that we cannot be lazy, not work hard and just wait for luck to come to us because there is no success without trade-offs. But to succeed beyond your best efforts, you need to have a little luck, or you will never succeed. When you start a business or do anything that always goes smoothly, that is also your luck. If luck is not needed to succeed, why do so many people work hard but never succeed? While many people don't spend too much time and effort to achieve success, it is quite common in our lives. I believe that luck plays an important role in everyone's success.

it really involves luck but those people that are working so hard but still not succeed is that they dont have a lot of opportunities meaning they are only working so hard like there is no tomorrow but  they missed other opportunities or lets say bad decisions. It has really luck involved to it because lets say while working someone noticed your hardworking and your capability which they will hire your or asked the CEO to increase your salary, there are really instances that we cant control which that is luck
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A very controversial statement! More precisely, from the region - you can do nothing, just buy a lottery ticket or place a bet in the casino Smiley

Firstly: yes, there are times when you just got lucky. But this is extremely rare and the exception rather than the rule.
Secondly, as reality shows, very often, those on whom wealth suddenly falls do not know how to manage it. Because there is no knowledge, no skills, no understanding of what money and wealth are.

Thirdly - ok, today you were lucky, and you "flew" 100,000 or 1,000,000 dollars. Question: how much is enough for you? What will happen next? Further wait for "manna from heaven"? Smiley
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Success in life requires luck and hard work. Those who have good luck, work on time and always take advantage of opportunities achieve success in life. 

There is a class of people who want to achieve success in life without any hard work and if they believe in their luck then success will come to them one day but this is not the case God has given everyone a good luck and asked everyone to change that luck through hard work now if we do any kind of hard work  If we don't just wait for luck then we will never be successful. To achieve success there is no substitute for hard work and determination.
2 things that can't be separated, how can anyone be successful without hard work? I think it will be achieved if we are born as rich people, or in other words we just have to continue our family business. and also hard work if not accompanied by luck I think it will also be difficult to be successful. But I am a person who believes that we can get luck with hard work and keep on praying. We as human beings can only try and pray, and when we have done that it will return to our destiny. And the truth is that destiny can be changed with hard work.
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Recently I have had numerous reunions with Uncles from my extended family. Some of them are successful businessmen for decades. They built their business from nothing and are living quite a comfortable life now. We had long conversations about life in general, including their key to success. I knew very well that they have been hard workers ever since I had a memory so I would contribute their success to endless efforts. However, one thing they had mentioned in common was luck. They believe pure luck made them meet and grasp those opportunities and become successful rather than their smartness and efforts. I've thought about this before and couldn't agree with this more. They've set very good examples to me, including my father, and now I tend to focus more on work itself consistently and let luck or fate takes the rest.
Work hard with all your might, and after that leave fate to the results. I don't think it's luck, because realistically and logically it has also been seen that someone who works hard and wholeheartedly in doing his job, will always be rewarded for his hard work. So actually what you are talking about is not just luck, because your parents and your uncle have worked hard at doing their jobs. So it is certain that the possibility of getting success is very high. And what I absorbed from the post you made, actually your argument or story seems to lead to a feeling of surrender when you have worked hard, and surrendered the results or not to those above and in my opinion that is not luck but resignation.

And in life having luck is indeed one of the important aspects, and is desired by many people. So if your uncle and all your brothers or relatives say so, it's true. But you explained all the stories and led to the attitude of working hard and leaving everything to fate.
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In this life there are indeed many things that often make us think that all theories will certainly not match reality, I had a friend when he was at school he was a fool so that every day he was insulted by other friends, and finally he chose to leave school, but after a few years he looks successful because you can own a farm and livestock business and can pay around 20 people this proves that intelligence will not guarantee success or failure.
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Recently I have had numerous reunions with Uncles from my extended family. Some of them are successful businessmen for decades. They built their business from nothing and are living quite a comfortable life now.

I think, Good Recommendations also need from strong people, especially in business, meaning having a report card and work track record that has been tested so we are excited that we are capable too. Yes, it takes effort, focus, and the will to put yourself in the right position to connect with people and opportunities so as to increase your chances of success and attract luck.
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Success in life requires luck and hard work. Those who have good luck, work on time and always take advantage of opportunities achieve success in life. 

There is a class of people who want to achieve success in life without any hard work and if they believe in their luck then success will come to them one day but this is not the case God has given everyone a good luck and asked everyone to change that luck through hard work now if we do any kind of hard work  If we don't just wait for luck then we will never be successful. To achieve success there is no substitute for hard work and determination.
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Recently I have had numerous reunions with Uncles from my extended family. Some of them are successful businessmen for decades. They built their business from nothing and are living quite a comfortable life now. We had long conversations about life in general, including their key to success. I knew very well that they have been hard workers ever since I had a memory so I would contribute their success to endless efforts. However, one thing they had mentioned in common was luck. They believe pure luck made them meet and grasp those opportunities and become successful rather than their smartness and efforts. I've thought about this before and couldn't agree with this more. They've set very good examples to me, including my father, and now I tend to focus more on work itself consistently and let luck or fate takes the rest.

I don't think so, the luck factor is indeed one of the important factors for us to be successful but it doesn't rule out the possibility that we can also be successful without it, the point is if we are diligent in trying to work hard not being lazy staying consistent with what we do I'm sure we can become successful people . because success is only for worthy people
Although there are indeed many cases where people suddenly become rich and successful due to luck. But such cases are very rare and rarely encountered in everyday life. And I agree that in the end what can get us closer to the chances of success is Hard Work, Consistency, Discipline and never being lazy to learn and work more.

because in reality more successful people have life stories that they start with hard work and keep going without ever giving up even though they often experience failure. Because sometimes failure is a lesson and can also be said to be a delayed success.
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I don't think so, the luck factor is indeed one of the important factors for us to be successful but it doesn't rule out the possibility that we can also be successful without it, the point is if we are diligent in trying to work hard not being lazy staying consistent with what we do I'm sure we can become successful people . because success is only for worthy people

The luck factor is a factor that no one can predict and this factor also very rarely comes twice to the same person in different ways. So the luck factor is another thing that you don't need to think about because the most important thing to think about is to keep trying as hard as possible to find better results and that must really be done regularly and very consistently as you say.

Besides that, success in any case will not come by itself if it is never picked up by trying hard because indeed everyone is always required to work hard at what they want. So it is clear in this case that success is not for the lazy because indeed success is for people who deserve it after trying through their respective hard work.
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I'm currently reading Zeland's book Reality Transurfing. 

The author argues that for success it is necessary to avoid the occurrence of excess potentials.  By the term excess potentials, he means great efforts to achieve the goal.  When a person makes great efforts to achieve a goal, he exaggerates the significance of this goal and thereby upsets the world balance of power. 

As a result, he begins to face strong obstacles on the way to the goal and it is not a fact that they can be overcome. 

By avoiding the emergence of high potentials, you can count on luck and achieve success much faster.

There is a saying "work smarter not harder" point. I know people who achieved success without appearing to work hard. They are in tiny minority but I will also tell that hard work is no guarantee of success. But at the end you need to be humble and grateful for what you achieve and maintaining the same attitude and love for what you do shall determine your future so they say its not one time accomplishment rather its a way of life your own journey.
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I don't agree that success is based on luck rather than effort. it's because luck won't come if we don't try. The meaning, in this case, is that not all of our businesses can be successful, but by trying to find the best business, you will get a business that can make you successful. Is that lucky? no, it is done with effort and hard work. in fact, building a business or running a business is included in the effort. You will not get success just by waiting for luck. no one is successful if they just watch tv and sleep in their room waiting for their luck.

It is not like gambling that you are sitting and betting some small money on it and waiting for bigger return, life is not like that. I agree with you that lucks attract hard work that is why those rich people will always say that do your very best and be hard working on something for sure you'll be able to get that and the luck is just a 2nd factor on it. Relying on luck is not a good idea for sure you'll not going to be successful on it as it is still another term for lazy stuff.

It is true that we cannot be lazy, not work hard and just wait for luck to come to us because there is no success without trade-offs. But to succeed beyond your best efforts, you need to have a little luck, or you will never succeed. When you start a business or do anything that always goes smoothly, that is also your luck. If luck is not needed to succeed, why do so many people work hard but never succeed? While many people don't spend too much time and effort to achieve success, it is quite common in our lives. I believe that luck plays an important role in everyone's success.
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It really depends on your understanding as to what success means for you. It depends on a whole set of things falling in place of which hard work and luck are important factors. You need to have the right mindset, attitude, passion, skills to get successful because its as important as working hard with some luck by your side to keep you going from one steps to another. Also remember that its not that tough to get there but to maintain/sustain that position you need to be humble grateful for what you achieve.

I'm currently reading Zeland's book Reality Transurfing. 

The author argues that for success it is necessary to avoid the occurrence of excess potentials.  By the term excess potentials, he means great efforts to achieve the goal.  When a person makes great efforts to achieve a goal, he exaggerates the significance of this goal and thereby upsets the world balance of power. 

As a result, he begins to face strong obstacles on the way to the goal and it is not a fact that they can be overcome. 

By avoiding the emergence of high potentials, you can count on luck and achieve success much faster.
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It really depends on your understanding as to what success means for you. It depends on a whole set of things falling in place of which hard work and luck are important factors. You need to have the right mindset, attitude, passion, skills to get successful because its as important as working hard with some luck by your side to keep you going from one steps to another. Also remember that its not that tough to get there but to maintain/sustain that position you need to be humble grateful for what you achieve.
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