Topic: Success is fundamentally determined by luck, not effort. - page 7. (Read 1254 times)
I think Luck is an unexpected thing, everyone has certainly felt Luck, and everyone certainly hopes for success, because we do not know the final result, so the thing we have to do is do everything well, never think whether we will be successful or No, as long as we can do the best things, we have the opportunity to succeed.
Yes, Equal Opportunity doesn't always come true and Not that success is simply luck, but the idea that effort is what you perceive as a necessary condition for success, is itself supported by some degree of luck. . This means that you can put in every effort to do something and still fail—not because your efforts weren't enough, but simply because something outside your control still destroys your success.
I think that success requires hard work, process, then luck. if you do nothing, you will become nothing. simple example, if you are hungry what will you do? the answer is definitely you will go to the kitchen to get a plate, then put the rice and side dishes on the plate and then you eat and are full. but if you feel hungry, but you stay quiet and don't go to the kitchen, then you will never be full. so effort is really needed, after that then luck itself will come to us.
no effort, then nothing can be. Even people who are now successful, they must have tried, failed, got up and succeeded.
no effort, then nothing can be. Even people who are now successful, they must have tried, failed, got up and succeeded.
Many people often say that success is due to luck, but I have to say that to get luck we have to work hard and smart, if we work in an office and get a small salary then we have to have the courage to do something else, for example looking for a side job/business, and in life sometimes we have to dare to take risks, namely investment, and in my opinion cryptocurrencies are a good opportunity to make us successful or rich in the future.
I think that success requires hard work, process, then luck. if you do nothing, you will become nothing. simple example, if you are hungry what will you do? the answer is definitely you will go to the kitchen to get a plate, then put the rice and side dishes on the plate and then you eat and are full. but if you feel hungry, but you stay quiet and don't go to the kitchen, then you will never be full. so effort is really needed, after that then luck itself will come to us.
no effort, then nothing can be. Even people who are now successful, they must have tried, failed, got up and succeeded.
no effort, then nothing can be. Even people who are now successful, they must have tried, failed, got up and succeeded.
I would say its combination of many things. First of all the super wealthy, the forbes richest list type of people are all from family of means, so you need to have a starting capital, even if not a huge one, just a little one and not come from poverty would be beneficial. Secondly you need to work on something that many people may want, even if not right away, eventually, even apple wasn't this huge company back in the day, it became bigger and bigger after iPhone was invented, it was big, but not the biggest company in the world. However, if we are talking about even better? Thats where luck comes in, if you have all these AND luck? That means you are going to do very well, you will get richer than what you normally would if you got some luck help.
Until the wise man takes off his shoes; the madman crosses the stream.
The first and most important requirement to be successful is to make an effort; luck follows effort in second place. If you make an effort, luck will find you easier. But in the absence of effort, it would be useless if you had the chance of the whole world.
We need to give the efforts and the same makes us get closer to luck. When we don't give the best and expect luck to favour us, it is the mistake. There are people who make themselves high out of luck. Those are one in hundred and everyone can't be the same. When we work hard, we'll be rewarded amidst the luck. When we just look for the luck without working hard we'll experience failure. The first and most important requirement to be successful is to make an effort; luck follows effort in second place. If you make an effort, luck will find you easier. But in the absence of effort, it would be useless if you had the chance of the whole world.
Until the wise man takes off his shoes; the madman crosses the stream.
The first and most important requirement to be successful is to make an effort; luck follows effort in second place. If you make an effort, luck will find you easier. But in the absence of effort, it would be useless if you had the chance of the whole world.
The first and most important requirement to be successful is to make an effort; luck follows effort in second place. If you make an effort, luck will find you easier. But in the absence of effort, it would be useless if you had the chance of the whole world.
Well, luck will always have its role to play in our lives but never disregard effort. Why? Everyone can insert effort to anything they are doing but not all people would be lucky. So atleast, put dome effort until luck goes on your way becaude if you will just wait for luck to come into your life, it would mean nothing if you have not started anything. Let us all be not reliant of our fate 'coz there'll be times we are the ones who'd decide for our future and not luck alone. Athletes won't achieve titles if they are just lucky because they've worked hard more than how luck took place on their career. And same thing goes with everyone's success.
Yes, but not into the point that you are relying on luck or having no balance in between hard work and luck because we dont know on when it would hit us and this is why its better to have that mindset on doing yourbest or hardwork+effort on whatever things that you are currently dealing with.Luck factor could only be determine on the time you are seeing that it is really that getting recognition or attention or simply with the demand.Yes, its true that it might give out some significance for whatever that we are dealing with.
Put that effort and dedication and see for yourself on what would be the results of it.
Well, luck will always have its role to play in our lives but never disregard effort. Why? Everyone can insert effort to anything they are doing but not all people would be lucky. So atleast, put dome effort until luck goes on your way becaude if you will just wait for luck to come into your life, it would mean nothing if you have not started anything. Let us all be not reliant of our fate 'coz there'll be times we are the ones who'd decide for our future and not luck alone. Athletes won't achieve titles if they are just lucky because they've worked hard more than how luck took place on their career. And same thing goes with everyone's success.
I agree that success requires luck, no matter how talented you are, without luck, you will never succeed. But that's not why we don't make an effort, we still have to make an effort and keep trying even if we're not lucky because if we don't make an effort, we'll get worse.
Success can never be achieved with luck alone. You have to put an effort to it and work on your plan so you will have more chances to succeed in the end. Otherwise, if you keep on waiting for your luck, which we don’t really know when will gonna happen, yes you’ll end up in a worst situation. Although everyone needs luck to succeed, but hardwork and efforts, patience, resiliency and being positive mindset will make it more possible to achieve success. 
Recently I have had numerous reunions with Uncles from my extended family. Some of them are successful businessmen for decades. They built their business from nothing and are living quite a comfortable life now. We had long conversations about life in general, including their key to success. I knew very well that they have been hard workers ever since I had a memory so I would contribute their success to endless efforts. However, one thing they had mentioned in common was luck. They believe pure luck made them meet and grasp those opportunities and become successful rather than their smartness and efforts. I've thought about this before and couldn't agree with this more. They've set very good examples to me, including my father, and now I tend to focus more on work itself consistently and let luck or fate takes the rest.
I think so, success is determined by luck, not effort, the real proof that I see in life is that there are many rich and successful people who according to the rules he shouldn't be successful, I have a friend who didn't graduate at school, but after several years in the restaurant business now I have employees are around 30 people, and there are employees when schools often get top rankings.
Can you clarify more what you say. according to the rules where, and how do you determine that your friend can not be successful. let's discuss it, many rich people are getting richer due to many factors that trigger or become indicators. Besides the effort they put in, they may also have special privileges. maybe he comes from a wealthy family, or maybe he has many business connections.
at least, there is something that someone does so that the business experiences an increase and achieves the success as expected. believe me, luck is just a supporting factor of the business process you are doing. if you trust destiny, you will not be able to change it. but if you want to change your fate, you can change it by going through a process, step by step, and that's the real effort.the rest, let luck dictate the outcome. IMO, true success and luck is a series of efforts that we have done.
I think so, success is determined by luck, not effort, the real proof that I see in life is that there are many rich and successful people who according to the rules he shouldn't be successful, I have a friend who didn't graduate at school, but after several years in the restaurant business now I have employees are around 30 people, and there are employees when schools often get top rankings.
I don't see any luck with your friend who did not graduate from school but owns a restaurant right now because he has done hard work to own that; he took the risk to establish those restaurants, and that is when luck struck him, like a lot of customers coming back to his restaurant as he cooks goods and also because they are pleasant. Comparing effort vs. luck is not the same; if you are just lazy and wait for luck, you'll end up with nothing, but if you put in an effort on anything, for sure, luck will follow.
In every success story hardwork plays a dominant role to luck. Hardwork prepares you for any opportunity that might come your way, if you're not prepared you will miss opportunities that those that are prepared already through hardwork would be the ones to grap the opportunity that OP refers to as luck.
For example; if I have luck to gain employment in an establishment, certain qualifications will be required of me to attain such opportunity that it's believed to have come through luck. But if I don't have the qualifications that's needed to grap the opportunity presented to me by luck, of what use then would the luck be to me. Cause I won't be given the employment cause I don't have the qualifications needed but those that do have these qualifications will definitely get the job. The required qualifications is where hardwork comes in as important before luck itself.
In otherwise, it's preparation that meets and also utilizes opportunities (luck), without it opportunity becomes useless.
For example; if I have luck to gain employment in an establishment, certain qualifications will be required of me to attain such opportunity that it's believed to have come through luck. But if I don't have the qualifications that's needed to grap the opportunity presented to me by luck, of what use then would the luck be to me. Cause I won't be given the employment cause I don't have the qualifications needed but those that do have these qualifications will definitely get the job. The required qualifications is where hardwork comes in as important before luck itself.
In otherwise, it's preparation that meets and also utilizes opportunities (luck), without it opportunity becomes useless.
I think so, success is determined by luck, not effort, the real proof that I see in life is that there are many rich and successful people who according to the rules he shouldn't be successful, I have a friend who didn't graduate at school, but after several years in the restaurant business now I have employees are around 30 people, and there are employees when schools often get top rankings.
I don't agree with this. Luck is a factor and there are many other factors but hard work is the biggest factor in being successful. I also believe there's a thin line between rich and successful. You can get rich through pure luck, like winning the lottery or being born into a rich family or whatever but for you to start your own business or career and be successful in it takes a lot of things and hard work is a big part of those things. You don't become a very good marine out of luck, you don't become a good and successful basketball or football player through luck or luck playing a bigger role.
Agreed, success is a factor. Same time having just the hard work won't make you reach high. What you say is right, but at the same time without luck one cannot be on the top. We can take the example you've said, there are far better football and basketball players than the top ones. Because they worked hard and got to be lucky to grab the opportunity whereas the person without luck weren't visible to the outer world. 
I don't agree with this. Luck is a factor and there are many other factors but hard work is the biggest factor in being successful. I also believe there's a thin line between rich and successful. You can get rich through pure luck, like winning the lottery or being born into a rich family or whatever but for you to start your own business or career and be successful in it takes a lot of things and hard work is a big part of those things. You don't become a very good marine out of luck, you don't become a good and successful basketball or football player through luck or luck playing a bigger role.
As OP mentioned it is our responsibility to do the best and the rest will be rewarded automatically. We need to work for it rather than expecting luck. When we work hard surely at some point we'll be good to some extent even if luck hasn't helped us. Luck is important to make you reach the top, but hard work is a must to keep your life at a better position.
Lol, this sounds ridiculous but I think the number of people who succeed by luck is very small. I also know some successful people who stay humble when it comes to their efforts and talk about their luck instead. However, I think that to be successful requires a lot of factors, not only effort, or luck but also perseverance, dedication, creativity... in which luck is just the last ingredient.
Of course, to have success requires many factors, not just luck, and just lack of a certain factor makes it difficult for you to succeed. If you say that success also requires luck, even though that's the last factor you mentioned, then obviously you won't be successful without luck.
I am still not successful, but I am a living witness of luck, I had a tough life before, and I couldn't even pay my debt even though I worked hard all day and every day. But everything turned a new page in my life when I was helped by a stranger with a job I never knew about before. As of now, not only have I paid off my old debt, but I have savings, investments, and things that I thought I would never have even if I worked my whole life.
Its true that effort and hard work would be meaningless if there's no some sort of luck for whatever you are dealing with.Somehow this would really be pertaning on how you do work hard because
you cant just make yourself that relying when it comes to luck where you do believe that it would really make you reach out a certain state where you are having no problems about finances.
It is really that somewhat having some mix of luck but majorly it would really be pertaining on how well you do handle yourself on lots of challenges because
success cant really be obtained if you havent done such thing.
Lol, this sounds ridiculous but I think the number of people who succeed by luck is very small. I also know some successful people who stay humble when it comes to their efforts and talk about their luck instead. However, I think that to be successful requires a lot of factors, not only effort, or luck but also perseverance, dedication, creativity... in which luck is just the last ingredient.
Of course, to have success requires many factors, not just luck, and just lack of a certain factor makes it difficult for you to succeed. If you say that success also requires luck, even though that's the last factor you mentioned, then obviously you won't be successful without luck.
I am still not successful, but I am a living witness of luck, I had a tough life before, and I couldn't even pay my debt even though I worked hard all day and every day. But everything turned a new page in my life when I was helped by a stranger with a job I never knew about before. As of now, not only have I paid off my old debt, but I have savings, investments, and things that I thought I would never have even if I worked my whole life.
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