Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com - page 1816. (Read 3049501 times)

My last word to you is this. You, Bitcoinorama, make a lot of statements along the lines:
This is how things are, i.e. this is fact (which people read)
but do your own research (which people ignore, because they are lazy)

So they are left believing the first statement as fact/truth.

I'm pointing that out to you so you can realise, if you don't, that that is what you do.

You have a massive influence over the direction of everything discussed in this thread or any other thread related to knc. You seem to pop up in all of them.

All my questions about components, warranty etc are valid. And you jump all over them, try to dismiss them. You like to dissipate them with no facts, e.g. "Fact is US won't be dropping a bomb on China, and if it does, you'll have a hell of a lot more to fear than hashrate." Like most of the things you say, you don't know whether that will or won't happen. But you like to confidently assert you know all the facts, like YOU know the truth for sure.

On "will America drop a bomb on China" (aka doing a bitcoinorama)
Factual assertion: It definitely won't happen.
Disclaimer: Do your own research, read up news media in your own country. Don't take my word for it
Spurious link: http://thediplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2013/07/12/why-china-and-the-us-probably-wont-go-to-war/
(Spurious link attempts to prove the factual assertion, wiping away the disclaimer. So reader walks away thinking the factual assertion is fact).

I'm not married buddy, but it sounds like you've approached this the wrong way around; should I ever consider such mutual cohabitation, I'll make sure she understands she's welcome to the garage and the home office, but the living room is strictly out of bounds to her say so. The cab stays!

That's an excellent idea and if you can get approval for a MAME cabinet into the living room, then you sir are winning the domestic battle. The garage and home office are my domains - I had to push to get tower speakers approved in the living room.  

This is a fabulous idea! I like it. Better patent it now.

Well be creative. I plan on building a MAME cabinet around mine. It will be a reverse arcade, where upon I get paid to play! All the time my kit is secure.

+1 - we can provide constructive feedback to KNC without running for the exits and asking for a refund. If anything, I'm a small scale miner with only a few rigs and none of them running in colo (except some hosted with KNC). For my own use, I don't care if the design is ugly and I've got plenty of room to deal with the inefficient use of space that these rigs + external PSUs will create. Hell, I don't care if they bothered with a case at all and I needed to supply my own milk crate. I just realize that I'm not KNC's only customer and that my requirements won't apply to everyone.

As an example, KNC is sponsoring Life on Bitcoin: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/kncminer-is-sponsoring-life-on-bitcoin-273696

Do Austin and Becky really want a somewhat fragile miner + PSU setup in their living room? Unfortunately, I think that this design shortcut takes something that could have been consumer & professional grade and turns it into pure enthusiast grade. The wife acceptance factor goes way down and this unit will end up in the garage - that's where mine will be.

Why would they even have that option? Not like the machine will be used for more than a year.

Ok, I've realised you're just here to troll now. This is a pointless waste of time.

Surprised knc don't have a
"add an extra 1 year warranty for only $3000!" option.
 
Ooh ooh, a slight on knc. Dive in and save them bitcoinorama!

+1000. That wouldn't have been so hard would it? PSU's are all pretty much standard size. It would feel a lot more secure for moving etc.

Why? Most manufacturers rarely give you more than a year unless they are forced to. Fact is US won't be dropping a bomb on China, and if it does, you'll have a hell of a lot more to fear than hashrate.

ohh, stupid kid. for you in points:
1:

2: bitcoin mining hardware should be designed for run 24/7

Well let's just say that America drops a bomb on China (or vice versa) and then mining difficulty goes right down again. Maybe in 14 months my 400GH/s is still a slick piece of machinery. And then the crappy cpu cooler dies and board fries. My consumer device should be under warranty.

Yeah, I agree it's sub-optimal. I don't know why they didn't add a frame or something for the PSU to be screwed in place on the side of the case.

There's still time to cancel your order and ask for a refund if you're unhappy about it.

professional 24/7 machine (and it doesn't matter if it is router, switch, server, tape library or mining rig) = data center grade. (please check, how looks and how is designed professional IT 24/7 equipment, which cost more then 5k dollars)

Also as far as I'm aware resale often negates warranties. Certainly does with Sony.

Most delta fans (except the highest CFM ones) aren't that expensive they just aren't flashy.  Delta is never going to make colored fans, ones with LEDs on them, or use leet names.  They are boring black fans that spin and have a reputation of high quality.

+1
And I'm not saying they should have built some eleborate custom case either.

But if the miner were to fall and the PSU was on a separate shelf and didn't, then all the power connectors and connection on the linux board are going to be torn to sh*t. That's not a great design.

Yeah I was assuming you were talking anout them 4k fans.

Still overkill for a machine with a lifetime of about 6 months.

But people keep harping on about datacenter grade parts but don't realise that KNC haven't ever promised anything about "datacenter" grade machine.

People are taking the word "professional" too literately.

P.s a $8k server can't be compared to a $8k knc miner. With the miner, most of the cost goes towards NRE.

I still don't like how the front 2 heatsinks in a jupiter blow their exhaust into the inlets of the rear 2 heatsinks. Suboptimal. Should be just linear as in D&Ts example.