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July 09, 2022, 02:57:13 PM
Nice tip for Ebden/Purcell @Trofo! HAd to do it the hard way but seems they went all the way every step except QFs. Nice.

Tip for tomorrow, for anyone using Bitsler. Look for the cashback promo (up to $100). Worked a treat today. If your ML selection takes a 4-game lead at any stage but ends up losing, you get money back.

Kyrgios +2.5 Sets @ better than 1.5 w/ Price Boost is my only bet.
And of course; Djokovic to win out!    

That'll be me tomorrow, just waiting for price boost to replenish Wink
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July 09, 2022, 02:23:09 PM
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Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%!  Shocked
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

This could be and interesting match.
There are nice odds for Djokovic vs Kyrgios match... I have seen in bet365 @1.25 and @4 !
Kyrgios could be and option to evacuate in a Exchange betting, because if he start to play well odds could decrease drastically

At Stake.com sports betting, these are the odds for this match. This is pretty similar to the bet365 odds. Usually most of the bookmakers have the same odds. Is this coincidence or done deliberately?




more or less the odds of the bets are the same among all bookmakers ... but obviously there can be variations due to the various bets that are placed by bettors to balance the profitability of the bookmaker.
keep in mind that what I entered is bet365 ita and I would not be surprised there were higher odds Roll Eyes
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July 09, 2022, 02:16:08 PM
For both players today, it was the first final they ever reached in a Grand Slam tournament. Ons Jabeur started as the favorite in the final, she is also much higher than Rybakina. She is lucky that she is now playing for Kazakhstan, I have been told since 4 years. When it was 1-1 it could have gone either way, but Rybakina seemed to be fitter than Jabeur. But of course everyone is looking forward to tomorrow when Djokovic takes on sensation-seeker Kyrgios. Kyrgios has never won a Grand Slam.

Ons Jabeur is ranked at number 2 in the single women's tennis ranking while Rybakina was ranked at no. 23. So we can say that today's result was an upset. Rybakina showed a better game on the day and deserves the title.


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July 09, 2022, 02:01:41 PM
Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.
I hope you did not bet on Jabeur.  Smiley

Those who bet on Rybakina must be enjoying and very happy to bet on her. Rybakina won her first Grand Slam title. She was down in the first set but won the next two sets 6-2 6-2 to be the first player from Kazakhstan to be the Wimbledon title holder.
Jabeur was in good touch for last few matches but Rybakina is also having very impressive run, and she won her first Grand Slam in great way after losing first set by 6 - 3 and after this she never looks back which was another great quality from her even she was ranked 23rd and Jabeur was at second but still having win like this is not easy for any player.

But, we have to praise here Jabeur she is surely going to be game changes in Arab world with first Arab girl reaching into Gran Slam final is never been easy and now surely she is going to achieve her best ranking for few more weeks because with this form she can win some events which are good for her and future of her in this game.
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July 09, 2022, 01:59:38 PM
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Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%!  Shocked
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

This could be and interesting match.
There are nice odds for Djokovic vs Kyrgios match... I have seen in bet365 @1.25 and @4 !
Kyrgios could be and option to evacuate in a Exchange betting, because if he start to play well odds could decrease drastically

At Stake.com sports betting, these are the odds for this match. This is pretty similar to the bet365 odds. Usually most of the bookmakers have the same odds. Is this coincidence or done deliberately?


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July 09, 2022, 01:15:43 PM
For both players today, it was the first final they ever reached in a Grand Slam tournament. Ons Jabeur started as the favorite in the final, she is also much higher than Rybakina. She is lucky that she is now playing for Kazakhstan, I have been told since 4 years. When it was 1-1 it could have gone either way, but Rybakina seemed to be fitter than Jabeur. But of course everyone is looking forward to tomorrow when Djokovic takes on sensation-seeker Kyrgios. Kyrgios has never won a Grand Slam.
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July 09, 2022, 12:53:07 PM
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.
I am sort of cynical so I have a very simple explanation for that difference. Couple of percent on men's final is much more money in your pocket than couple of percent on women's final. Therefore you build your good odds reputation on smaller games and then earn your paychecks on big ones.  

Watching Mektic/Pavic now and they are holding admirably well due to circumstances but that backhand is missing in Pavic arsenal and it could prove enough of advantage for opposition.

I think that this is not the case at all (earnings on an additional couple of percent of the margin). I remember that for the Champions League final the margin was only 4 percent even though this event is much bigger than Wimbledon. Most likely, bookmakers see an abnormal number of bets against Djokovic, but due to his instability, they cannot correct the odds properly, therefore, for reliability, they increase the margin.
By the way, Mektic and Pavić, having won the second set, regained the status of favorites and are now leading in the third set. The odds are 1.32 - 3,50 in their favor.
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July 09, 2022, 12:07:12 PM
Kyrgios +2.5 Sets @ better than 1.5 w/ Price Boost is my only bet.
And of course; Djokovic to win out!   

Well its not impossible. I think that Kyrgios can win a set but needs to win one of first two sets to at least win one. But i hope Kyrgios will be motivated so that we have a good match to watch. But hoping for Djokovic to win the match and tournament for his 21st grand slam
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July 09, 2022, 11:55:00 AM
Kyrgios +2.5 Sets @ better than 1.5 w/ Price Boost is my only bet.
And of course; Djokovic to win out!   
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July 09, 2022, 11:53:40 AM
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Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%!  Shocked
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.

This could be and interesting match.
There are nice odds for Djokovic vs Kyrgios match... I have seen in bet365 @1.25 and @4 !
Kyrgios could be and option to evacuate in a Exchange betting, because if he start to play well odds could decrease drastically
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July 09, 2022, 11:47:03 AM
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.
I am sort of cynical so I have a very simple explanation for that difference. Couple of percent on men's final is much more money in your pocket than couple of percent on women's final. Therefore you build your good odds reputation on smaller games and then earn your paychecks on big ones.  

Watching Mektic/Pavic now and they are holding admirably well due to circumstances but that backhand is missing in Pavic arsenal and it could prove enough of advantage for opposition.
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July 09, 2022, 11:43:43 AM

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

I don't think it is a real tactic of Djokovic. Why would he want to loose the first set to conserve some energy? The longer the match goes on, the more his energy gets depleted also so all players are focused to win in 3 sets in the shortest amount of time.
In this case, I quite agree with what you say, especially in this case without denying he is 7 years older than Kyrgios and there must be a difference in stamina in this case because Kyrgios will be the favorite.
It would be very bad if he gave up the first set and made his move in the next.
In the semi-finals maybe that was the plan but it's also possible that it was a mistake.
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July 09, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64


Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.



I hope you did not bet on Jabeur.  Smiley

Those who bet on Rybakina must be enjoying and very happy to bet on her. Rybakina won her first Grand Slam title. She was down in the first set but won the next two sets 6-2 6-2 to be the first player from Kazakhstan to be the Wimbledon title holder.
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July 09, 2022, 10:33:13 AM
I suppose a lot of people didn't see Ons losing, didn't do anything for Women's this one around cause wasn't happy to see odds, but this Rybakina, have to say never heard of her until this final. Don't shoot me if she's top or something, I didn't know about Ons until the last WTA! Yes, I'm terrible I know.

Morning tip for you guys, play something agains Pavic/Mektic today. Pavic has fell on his hand during last match and fractured something, he can barely use his right hand. He is left handed so they will play but he can't toss the ball properly or play his usual two handed backhand.

Can't belive odds on Ebden/Purcell are still over 3. Forfeit is legit concern so don't use free bets or insurances on this one.

Too late for me reading this, shame. Think a lot of money went on the line, though I still got 2.85 which will be decent, so thanks in advance!
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July 09, 2022, 10:21:58 AM
Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64


Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.


Rybakina just won 2-1 in sets against Jabeur and won the wimbledon grand slam. Too bad the points dont count she would be in top 10 now but this is a huge achivement for here. She won it out of nowhere before this she couldnt win 3 matches in a row
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July 09, 2022, 08:19:10 AM
Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64


Seeing these odds, Jabeur is the favorite to win this final but i am not sure whom to bet on. I am not a big fan of women's tennis and i think most people watch more of the Men matches as compared to the Women's tennis matches. I have watched almost all the matches of Nadal and Djokovic live on the TV but only watched the highlights of a few of the women's matches.
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July 09, 2022, 07:51:42 AM

Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.

I don't think it is a real tactic of Djokovic. Why would he want to loose the first set to conserve some energy? The longer the match goes on, the more his energy gets depleted also so all players are focused to win in 3 sets in the shortest amount of time.
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July 09, 2022, 07:33:23 AM
Noticed a funny thing:

Rybakina, Elena 2.27

Jabeur, Ons 1.64

The bookmaker's margin is exactly 5%.

Djokovic, Novak 1.21

Kyrgios, Nick 3.8

Bookmaker margin 9%!  Shocked
It turns out that bookmakers are extremely unsure about the result of the men's final, since the margin is unusually large (usually it is in the region of 4-6% and closer to 4% for major events). Even the women's finals (where the games are always more random) have regular quotes.
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July 09, 2022, 07:29:03 AM
So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic  Wink
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?

And I can remember that we have argument about this one, him deliberately losing the first set and then totally destroying his opponent, not just physical but the way he is going to beat them, the score will show that he didn't give Norrie any chance after that first set win.

I guess it will be Djokovic all the way, unless Kyrgios will have something to offer. But this is best of 5, so he needs to be very consistent in order to try and beat Djokovic, but chances is slim.
Djokovic tactics worked oit so far he conserve his energy in the first set and tire his opponents and then take over but i dont think he will do that in the final he will go all out kyrgios is a dangerous opponent in the grass and he is much younger than djokovic so i think novak will go all out from the start but still i think kyrgios have a chance to win.
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July 09, 2022, 07:26:16 AM
So another clinic has been put up by Djokovic against Norrie. Losing the first set and then winning the next in spectacular fashion.

This is now becoming a routine for Djokovic to lose the initial set but then come back strong in the remaining sets. However, this is also a nightmare for the bookmakers as when Djokovic loses initial sets, its obvious they had to increase the odds for him. That's the best time to place a bet on Djokovic  Wink
Norrie, played well in the first set but then never looked the same in the remaining three sets. What could get wrong with him that he lost consecutive three sets after winning the first one?



Yes, interesting question. Perhaps the problem is that Djokovic had a big break after the GS in Paris and needed time to raise the level of his game?
If Djokovic continues this tradition, we can probably expect him to lose the first and maybe the second set in the final, so we can bet on that too  Grin
I think Kyrgios will be the biggest challenge for Djokovic in this tournament and he will have to be careful to keep his concentration during the match because Kyrgios will surely try everything to disrupt his game.

Yeah, it will be Nick obviously, and the biggest challenge for Nick is... himself. He seems to be relentless though in this tournament and very unforgiving to his opponents and the crowd. Djokovic knows this, and just maybe will not give Nick any first set. Because he knows that Nick maybe has something that might throw his concentration off by his antics to disrupt Djokovic. So to get a 'sure' win, Djokovic be better on a spree as early as the first set.
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