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July 12, 2022, 07:22:14 AM
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Furthermore I too lament the fact that Nadal vs Djokovic finals didn’t happen, but unless the USA government changes their rule at the last moment we won’t see him irrespective of the rumours that continue to float in the media.

will be interesting to see draws on future tournaments now when Djokovic is at position 7 on ATP list, you would want to miss him in you draw party even if you are top seed
but, ATP has their right to omit points for tournaments, although would be more fair to players (if they wanted to protect players and punish Wimbledon) to omit GS status to Wimbledon

this way, with points, only players are punished

US open has open policy, but entering USA is an issue without vaccine
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July 12, 2022, 05:08:02 AM

It could be, I admit I am not reading about it that much but I did read something like he is allowed to play on US Open, but he is not allowed to enter USA, so sort of comes to the same thing in the end. Maybe those are old news at the moment but there is still a lot of time before US Open so it could become a reality again.

Anyway, however you put it, rankings are really unfair for Djoković this year.

I travel for work quite a lot of times to the USA. The current rules are that you don't need a negative covid test to enter the USA but you need to be fully vaccinated before you could enter. So as Djokovic is not vaccinated and if he doesn't have a medical exemption, than he will not be allowed to enter the USA.

Given the fact that the US Open organisers will be well aware off the fiasco around Djokovic's attempted entry to Australia this year, it seems unlikely they'll make a last minute concession to let him in, and open themselves up to legal challenges, etc. I'd be very surprised if he plays there.

Yeah, there's zero chance of him getting vaccinated. He reached the top of the game in large part due to drastically restricting the types of food he eats, he won't put anything into his body that he thinks might pollute it.

It's a shame he won't be in the US, I'd like to see a rematch with Medvedev. We've been denied a few big matches this year for one reason or another. Nadal vs Djokovic in the Wimbledon final would have been another good one.

I don’t think that Djokovic and his team will try to pull of the same stunt they did in Australia, because USA laws are stricture and he could be heavily fined or even jailed for intentionally breaking the law and creating a ruckus. Furthermore I too lament the fact that Nadal vs Djokovic finals didn’t happen, but unless the USA government changes their rule at the last moment we won’t see him irrespective of the rumours that continue to float in the media.
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July 12, 2022, 04:38:00 AM
Yeah, there's zero chance of him getting vaccinated. He reached the top of the game in large part due to drastically restricting the types of food he eats, he won't put anything into his body that he thinks might pollute it.

It's a shame he won't be in the US, I'd like to see a rematch with Medvedev. We've been denied a few big matches this year for one reason or another. Nadal vs Djokovic in the Wimbledon final would have been another good one.
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July 12, 2022, 04:22:26 AM
The rule for entry will certainly not be changed. So if he is not vaccinated he will not be able to enter and therefore not be able to play. Maybe if he will get vaccinated soon, he would be able to. But there are a few weeks between the day of vaccination and full protection and I do not know what the rules are about that in the USA.

I don't think he will get vaccinated at this point. He has been reluctant from the scratch and avoided at all cost any dialogue on that argument.
I think it's more plausible an exemption from USA rules but also in this case it's something impossible... let's see another drama like AUS? mmm I hope no Roll Eyes
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July 12, 2022, 03:24:52 AM
The rule for entry will certainly not be changed. So if he is not vaccinated he will not be able to enter and therefore not be able to play. Maybe if he will get vaccinated soon, he would be able to. But there are a few weeks between the day of vaccination and full protection and I do not know what the rules are about that in the USA.
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July 12, 2022, 01:44:26 AM

It could be, I admit I am not reading about it that much but I did read something like he is allowed to play on US Open, but he is not allowed to enter USA, so sort of comes to the same thing in the end. Maybe those are old news at the moment but there is still a lot of time before US Open so it could become a reality again.

Anyway, however you put it, rankings are really unfair for Djoković this year.

I travel for work quite a lot of times to the USA. The current rules are that you don't need a negative covid test to enter the USA but you need to be fully vaccinated before you could enter. So as Djokovic is not vaccinated and if he doesn't have a medical exemption, than he will not be allowed to enter the USA.

Given the fact that the US Open organisers will be well aware of the fiasco around Djokovic's attempted entry to Australia this year, it seems unlikely they'll make a last minute concession to let him in, and open themselves up to legal challenges, etc. I'd be very surprised if he plays there.
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July 12, 2022, 01:20:18 AM
It seems that age has finaly caught up to wawrinka four consecutive losses for him and the last one was today against careno busta, but he was unlucky he faced tough opponents as soon as he was back in form i hope he can recover soon and continue to play tennis atleast for a few more years.
His 3rd loss in the row and he'd always had a tough opponent to play against. So, nothing to generate momentum or give him confidence to keep going. The injuries had kept him out from tennis for a while. He did beat Tiafoe, Opelka and Djere this year though. The first 2 are pretty high quality opponents. 3 wins and 9 losses from what I can see this year.

Ah I always liked Wawrinka, to me he always conducted himself well on court and
His one handed back hand was fantastic to watch. He has had a tough draw since
coming back with a number of first round losses against tough opponents. We should
also consider he is 37 years old, older than Rafa so he is in the twilight of his career.
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July 11, 2022, 05:58:04 PM
It seems that age has finaly caught up to wawrinka four consecutive losses for him and the last one was today against careno busta, but he was unlucky he faced tough opponents as soon as he was back in form i hope he can recover soon and continue to play tennis atleast for a few more years.
His 3rd loss in the row and he'd always had a tough opponent to play against. So, nothing to generate momentum or give him confidence to keep going. The injuries had kept him out from tennis for a while. He did beat Tiafoe, Opelka and Djere this year though. The first 2 are pretty high quality opponents. 3 wins and 9 losses from what I can see this year.
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July 11, 2022, 05:21:36 PM
It seems that age has finaly caught up to wawrinka four consecutive losses for him and the last one was today against careno busta, but he was unlucky he faced tough opponents as soon as he was back in form i hope he can recover soon and continue to play tennis atleast for a few more years.
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July 11, 2022, 03:56:27 PM

It could be, I admit I am not reading about it that much but I did read something like he is allowed to play on US Open, but he is not allowed to enter USA, so sort of comes to the same thing in the end. Maybe those are old news at the moment but there is still a lot of time before US Open so it could become a reality again.

Anyway, however you put it, rankings are really unfair for Djoković this year.

I travel for work quite a lot of times to the USA. The current rules are that you don't need a negative covid test to enter the USA but you need to be fully vaccinated before you could enter. So as Djokovic is not vaccinated and if he doesn't have a medical exemption, than he will not be allowed to enter the USA.
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July 11, 2022, 03:55:59 PM
As expected Djokovic won the final and now has only one less Wimbledon win than Roger Federer. He is also unbeaten on Centre Court for nine years. He also needs only one more win at the Grand Slam to draw level with Nadal. But as already discussed here, it is questionable if he will allowed to play in New York.
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July 11, 2022, 02:41:08 PM
US Open will be really fun - Đoković is again only 1 GS behind Nadal. Neither one of them will be my favorites in the USA though.
As it stands, Djoković will not be allowed to play in USA. That means another 1200 points lost since he was in final last year. And that means that we could have arguably one of the best players in top form ranked outside TOP 10 while we have some really mediocre players ranked above him.

This season is turning to be quite a joke in tegards to ATP points.
Huh Is the vaccine madness still going on? I thought it was over (in my country it is, but we have a special position  Grin ). I respect Djokovic more and more for his adherence to principles. And I am sure that the organizers of the US Open need his participation much more than Djokovic needs the US Open, since he has already proved everything.
Right now nothing is clear about the USA because I am reading on different channels there are increase in cases of Covid19 in many countries, and they are again bringing restrictions which are surely bore thing, but they need safety, so they are not allowing peoples those have not vaccinated, so maybe this is again tricky situation for Djokovic which was stopped from Australian Open even he fly to Australia, but they not allow him it's all dirty politics and can happen again in the USA.

Most chances they will allow him in this USA open because now things are changing, and they also need him in this event with some big matches and having good entertainment as well.
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July 11, 2022, 10:35:25 AM
Didn't this covid talk bore everyone enough? Maybe Djokovic would have won 2 more Grand Slams, but they don't even let him play. It's an absurd intervention, as if he was the one who spread the whole virus. Djokovic should sue them. I can't believe that organizations around the world make such unprofessional decisions.
Djokovic will remain a favorite at all Grand Slams he participates in. I hope Nadal returns well from injury and we will watch exciting tournaments again.
What a great tournament we watched while they were both at Wimbledon. If America don't allow him, they will lose themselves. As I didn't watch Australia, I'll skip that one too. Fair play, for everyone.
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July 11, 2022, 10:26:56 AM
US Open will be really fun - Đoković is again only 1 GS behind Nadal. Neither one of them will be my favorites in the USA though.
As it stands, Djoković will not be allowed to play in USA.

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I thought that this was cleared and he will on US open, still much time to tournament, and with Covid numbers going up, it could change again, but I reall thought that Djokovic is able to play (that i read that about)

nevertheless, it is quite different in US open and Wimbledon/RG, some other players will have chances there, from all tournaments, top3 domination was least seen in New York
It could be, I admit I am not reading about it that much but I did read something like he is allowed to play on US Open, but he is not allowed to enter USA, so sort of comes to the same thing in the end. Maybe those are old news at the moment but there is still a lot of time before US Open so it could become a reality again.

Anyway, however you put it, rankings are really unfair for Djoković this year.
legendary
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July 11, 2022, 10:01:20 AM
US Open will be really fun - Đoković is again only 1 GS behind Nadal. Neither one of them will be my favorites in the USA though.
As it stands, Djoković will not be allowed to play in USA.

-snip

I thought that this was cleared and he will on US open, still much time to tournament, and with Covid numbers going up, it could change again, but I reall thought that Djokovic is able to play (that i read that about)

nevertheless, it is quite different in US open and Wimbledon/RG, some other players will have chances there, from all tournaments, top3 domination was least seen in New York
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July 11, 2022, 08:37:17 AM
US Open will be really fun - Đoković is again only 1 GS behind Nadal. Neither one of them will be my favorites in the USA though.
As it stands, Djoković will not be allowed to play in USA. That means another 1200 points lost since he was in final last year. And that means that we could have arguably one of the best players in top form ranked outside TOP 10 while we have some really mediocre players ranked above him.

This season is turning to be quite a joke in tegards to ATP points.

 Huh Is the vaccine madness still going on? I thought it was over (in my country it is, but we have a special position  Grin ). I respect Djokovic more and more for his adherence to principles. And I am sure that the organizers of the US Open need his participation much more than Djokovic needs the US Open, since he has already proved everything.
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July 11, 2022, 08:17:01 AM
This is big shocking news for me and many others those were looking for some entertaining game from Djokovic in US Open, and I was feeling this is going to be tough challenge between these two again as hopefully Nadal could be also set and have his best time in US Open but with this Covid19 rules if he is going to lose this could be surely a big mess-up.

Because, I was feeling now mostly restrictions are ended and peoples can go freely anywhere, but recent new wave of this pandemic is again going to ruin the things which are providing good entertainment for many decades.

Hopefully we will have something positive about this in coming days, which is important for all of us, even new wave is coming very frequently.

is even more absurd the tournament does not make a ban on unvaccinated people. So players who are already in the US territory can play on US Open even if they are not vaccinated.
the two greatest players of all time, and we will be deprived of their matches because of politics.
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July 11, 2022, 08:16:58 AM
US Open will be really fun - Đoković is again only 1 GS behind Nadal. Neither one of them will be my favorites in the USA though.
As it stands, Djoković will not be allowed to play in USA. That means another 1200 points lost since he was in final last year. And that means that we could have arguably one of the best players in top form ranked outside TOP 10 while we have some really mediocre players ranked above him.

This season is turning to be quite a joke in tegards to ATP points.

Why not? Some Covid rules I missed out on?

I don't really think that players care much about the rankings. That is fairly irrelevant in tennis, only the tournaments won count. But the lower you are - the tougher the draws are as well - and I do agree that this season is perfectly showing what happens when politics leads sports.
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July 11, 2022, 07:48:16 AM
US Open will be really fun - Đoković is again only 1 GS behind Nadal. Neither one of them will be my favorites in the USA though.
As it stands, Djoković will not be allowed to play in USA. That means another 1200 points lost since he was in final last year. And that means that we could have arguably one of the best players in top form ranked outside TOP 10 while we have some really mediocre players ranked above him.

This season is turning to be quite a joke in tegards to ATP points.
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July 11, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
Djokovic did drop the ball in the first set, but that was more like a warmup set.  He became unbeatable once his racket became hot. Djokovic is going to be a heavy favorite going into US open. Still, 2 months left for it, but I am pretty sure it will be 22nd grand slam for him!!
for now, there is very little chance that Djokovic will win the US Open. he won't even participate.
Due to anti covid rules by the US government, no one who has not been vaccinated can come to the US. Djokovic didn't, and he cannot travel to the US. he already missed some tournaments in that territory.
This is big shocking news for me and many others those were looking for some entertaining game from Djokovic in US Open, and I was feeling this is going to be tough challenge between these two again as hopefully Nadal could be also set and have his best time in US Open but with this Covid19 rules if he is going to lose this could be surely a big mess-up.

Because, I was feeling now mostly restrictions are ended and peoples can go freely anywhere, but recent new wave of this pandemic is again going to ruin the things which are providing good entertainment for many decades.

Hopefully we will have something positive about this in coming days, which is important for all of us, even new wave is coming very frequently.
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