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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on May 31, 2022, 03:26:36 PM

Nadal's biggest fear has been swept away today, the young Spaniard lost to Zverev. Nadal will be very happy about that. The Spaniard recently lost to Alcaraz, but the pressure on Roland Garros has become too much for him. Now the road to the title seems open for Nadal. A clinch with Djokovic is still a possibility.

He has more immediate things to think about, just gone into the 3rd set with over
2hrs 30mins gone and one set each. Nadal has started each set breaking Djokovic
but its still even enough.

I'm not sure Alcaraz was his biggest fear, I would say this current match was in his
sights quite early on in the tournament when he realised they were on the same side
of the draw, the same for Djokovic, he would have seen this match up coming.

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Nadal's biggest fear has been swept away today, the young Spaniard lost to Zverev. Nadal will be very happy about that. The Spaniard recently lost to Alcaraz, but the pressure on Roland Garros has become too much for him. Now the road to the title seems open for Nadal. A clinch with Djokovic is still a possibility.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 05:37:10 AM

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Fair play for this, well spotted. I did see Medvedev struggle a lot on clay - but it isn't the ideal surface for Čilić as well. I always expect elite players to be able to at least decently perform on all surfaces and in Medvedev's case it is still not happening. He breezed through the first 3 matches though - so I expected a bit more.

A nice opportunity is opening up now for Čilić - he might actually reach the final.

No matter what, I still expected Medvedev to win or at least a much more uncertain match.
Cilic has been in crisis for a very long time and he played badly.
Honestly, I expected that his chance for a good result could be Wimbledon and I really didn't expect him to play so well in Paris.
So far he has won the US Open and played in the finals of Australia and Wimbledon, but he has never played so well in Paris, so this result is really a surprise to me.
Cilic in the final? What a story that would be Grin

It's going to be Cilic vs Rublev first, do you reckon that Cilic will have a chance against Rublev?

The Nadal vs Djokovic match is kinda late on my timezone, too bad I won't able to watch it. Nadal though wanted the match much earlier as he doesn't want to play obviously t oo late with a lot of lights around it.

In the women's, Leylah Fernandez run has ended as he was beaten by Trevisan.

I have my popcorn ready for this 59th meeting of these two legends of the game.

Its true the evening session is not Nadal's preferred time and this as has been discussed
is probably tilted in Djokovic's favour. I have a +6.5 handicap bet on Nadal. Just listening
to McEnroe, he says its hard to bet against Nadal on clay....

Pity about Fernandez but Trevisan is having a mighty run.

Zverev I believe had a fantastic performance today to beat Alcaraz in 4 sets, I just saw the 4th
set tie break.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 05:37:10 AM

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Fair play for this, well spotted. I did see Medvedev struggle a lot on clay - but it isn't the ideal surface for Čilić as well. I always expect elite players to be able to at least decently perform on all surfaces and in Medvedev's case it is still not happening. He breezed through the first 3 matches though - so I expected a bit more.

A nice opportunity is opening up now for Čilić - he might actually reach the final.

No matter what, I still expected Medvedev to win or at least a much more uncertain match.
Cilic has been in crisis for a very long time and he played badly.
Honestly, I expected that his chance for a good result could be Wimbledon and I really didn't expect him to play so well in Paris.
So far he has won the US Open and played in the finals of Australia and Wimbledon, but he has never played so well in Paris, so this result is really a surprise to me.
Cilic in the final? What a story that would be Grin

It's going to be Cilic vs Rublev first, do you reckon that Cilic will have a chance against Rublev?

The Nadal vs Djokovic match is kinda late on my timezone, too bad I won't able to watch it. Nadal though wanted the match much earlier as he doesn't want to play obviously t oo late with a lot of lights around it.

In the women's, Leylah Fernandez run has ended as he was beaten by Trevisan.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 05:37:10 AM

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Fair play for this, well spotted. I did see Medvedev struggle a lot on clay - but it isn't the ideal surface for Čilić as well. I always expect elite players to be able to at least decently perform on all surfaces and in Medvedev's case it is still not happening. He breezed through the first 3 matches though - so I expected a bit more.

A nice opportunity is opening up now for Čilić - he might actually reach the final.

No matter what, I still expected Medvedev to win or at least a much more uncertain match.
Cilic has been in crisis for a very long time and he played badly.
Honestly, I expected that his chance for a good result could be Wimbledon and I really didn't expect him to play so well in Paris.
So far he has won the US Open and played in the finals of Australia and Wimbledon, but he has never played so well in Paris, so this result is really a surprise to me.
Cilic in the final? What a story that would be Grin

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 05:37:10 AM

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Fair play for this, well spotted. I did see Medvedev struggle a lot on clay - but it isn't the ideal surface for Čilić as well. I always expect elite players to be able to at least decently perform on all surfaces and in Medvedev's case it is still not happening. He breezed through the first 3 matches though - so I expected a bit more.

A nice opportunity is opening up now for Čilić - he might actually reach the final.

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Go figure, huh Trofo, I put correct scores 3:1 and 3:2 on Cilic, and I actually saw the end of first set, was hoping he'd win it, but wasn't expecting to see him get it given to him on a plate with double faults. Bloody hell haha.

Straight set win put me out, and odds on that were actually higher than the 10/1s I took haha.

Oh well, least I avoided the Tsitsi bet too.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 04:08:40 PM

And this destruction that Medvedev suffered from Cilic just now is the reason why nobody should ever place a single cent on Medvedev when playing surface is clay

Cilic is nothing more than solid clay player and he looked like top 3 in the world against Medvedev.

Hope some of you cashed in on this, I have been preaching about it for whole day. Not all my tickets passed but most of them did and here are the two that are multi so a bit more interesting to share.

Yup i had Cilic on handicap +6.5 more because its Cilic and he can have really
mediocre days than Medvedev not performing well on clay. Anyway yes Cilic did
actually look like a top 3 player. He meets Rublev next so in my mind thats a very
unpredictable outcome.

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Quote from: AndySt on May 30, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

Personally, I am much more surprised by Tsitsipas' loss than Medvedev's loss. It's just that everyone has known for a long time and it's clear that the coating on Roland Garros is not the most favorite for Medvedev, plus the factor of the recently undergone surgery should have done their job and there was only a question when it would happen. Another question is Tsitsipas, who knows and knows how to play in Paris, where he reached the final last season. However, a four-hour battle with a player ranked 134th in the ranking already suggested some thoughts. By the way, Tsitsipas did not complain about his health after the match and on the contrary said that he physically felt perfect.

It was a surprise and I did not expect Tsitsi to lose but if you check my tickets above you will see I had bets on Rune to take a set and cover handicap.

This match was a different case, here we had both players that are playing great on clay. Don't know if you guys have seen Rune play before but he has the game to outgun anybody on clay. His problem is consistency and I thought that will be enough for more experienced Tsitsi to prevail in the end.

Regarding matches today, I was leaning towards Nadal since I am always searching for value and odds of 2,7 on Nadal on clay seem like free money. But after thinking about it a bit more, I don't think he has a chance if he is not at least 90% of his best and it seems to me he is far from that. At the moment I am leaning towards Djoko handi. This Nadal will destroy Djoko in any set while opposite can happen.

Interestingly Rune played junior doubles with Alcaraz! and like Alcaraz he has a big game,
hopefully the inconsistancies will be ironed out but yea the win over Tsitsipas was great,
I watched the highlights before Cilic/Medvedev.

https://imgur.com/RqpPwpp.jpg

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Quote from: AndySt on May 30, 2022, 06:59:26 PM

Personally, I am much more surprised by Tsitsipas' loss than Medvedev's loss. It's just that everyone has known for a long time and it's clear that the coating on Roland Garros is not the most favorite for Medvedev, plus the factor of the recently undergone surgery should have done their job and there was only a question when it would happen. Another question is Tsitsipas, who knows and knows how to play in Paris, where he reached the final last season. However, a four-hour battle with a player ranked 134th in the ranking already suggested some thoughts. By the way, Tsitsipas did not complain about his health after the match and on the contrary said that he physically felt perfect.

It was a surprise and I did not expect Tsitsi to lose but if you check my tickets above you will see I had bets on Rune to take a set and cover handicap.

This match was a different case, here we had both players that are playing great on clay. Don't know if you guys have seen Rune play before but he has the game to outgun anybody on clay. His problem is consistency and I thought that will be enough for more experienced Tsitsi to prevail in the end.

Regarding matches today, I was leaning towards Nadal since I am always searching for value and odds of 2,7 on Nadal on clay seem like free money. But after thinking about it a bit more, I don't think he has a chance if he is not at least 90% of his best and it seems to me he is far from that. At the moment I am leaning towards Djoko handi. This Nadal will destroy Djoko in any set while opposite can happen.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on May 30, 2022, 04:33:48 PM

Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 04:08:40 PM

And this destruction that Medvedev suffered from Cilic just now is the reason why nobody should ever place a single cent on Medvedev when playing surface is clay

Cilic is nothing more than solid clay player and he looked like top 3 in the world against Medvedev

I was also waiting for Medvedev to suffer a "surprise" defeat as he is like a different player on clay, and definitely vulnerable... a situation that can only be exacerbated when he's just coming back from an injury layoff. I half expected him to just skip the clay court season entirely... But at the time he registered for the French Open, there were still ranking points available for non-Russians at Wimbledon, which would mean no chance for Medvedev to return to number one. Obviously now the situation is different, and Medvedev will be number one irrespective of what happens in France. Perhaps if the Wimbledon ranking points removal had happened a couple of weeks ago, we wouldn't even have seen Medvedev at RG. But... whilst I expected him to lose at some point, I thought he'd still have too much for Cilic.

Personally, I am much more surprised by Tsitsipas' loss than Medvedev's loss. It's just that everyone has known for a long time and it's clear that the coating on Roland Garros is not the most favorite for Medvedev, plus the factor of the recently undergone surgery should have done their job and there was only a question when it would happen. Another question is Tsitsipas, who knows and knows how to play in Paris, where he reached the final last season. However, a four-hour battle with a player ranked 134th in the ranking already suggested some thoughts. By the way, Tsitsipas did not complain about his health after the match and on the contrary said that he physically felt perfect.

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Some upseating result for me today i did not expect tsitsipas to lose against rune i thought he will be able to get past him since he showed improvements recently since he made it to the finals in rome but i guess i was wrong and one of the games i was looking forward to ended after two sets with sinner retiring but we have the biggest game coming up between djokovic and nadal so i am excited.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 04:08:40 PM

And this destruction that Medvedev suffered from Cilic just now is the reason why nobody should ever place a single cent on Medvedev when playing surface is clay

Cilic is nothing more than solid clay player and he looked like top 3 in the world against Medvedev

I was also waiting for Medvedev to suffer a "surprise" defeat as he is like a different player on clay, and definitely vulnerable... a situation that can only be exacerbated when he's just coming back from an injury layoff. I half expected him to just skip the clay court season entirely... But at the time he registered for the French Open, there were still ranking points available for non-Russians at Wimbledon, which would mean no chance for Medvedev to return to number one. Obviously now the situation is different, and Medvedev will be number one irrespective of what happens in France. Perhaps if the Wimbledon ranking points removal had happened a couple of weeks ago, we wouldn't even have seen Medvedev at RG.

But... whilst I expected him to lose at some point, I thought he'd still have too much for Cilic.

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And this destruction that Medvedev suffered from Cilic just now is the reason why nobody should ever place a single cent on Medvedev when playing surface is clay

Cilic is nothing more than solid clay player and he looked like top 3 in the world against Medvedev.

Hope some of you cashed in on this, I have been preaching about it for whole day. Not all my tickets passed but most of them did and here are the two that are multi so a bit more interesting to share.

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Tsitsipas today wasted by betting program

, Rune was really strong !
Another surprise was Cilic against Medveded impressive win!

A bad surprise was with Sinner!
He was complaining for his knee also the match before against McDonald so it was something expected...

First there was vescicles/blisters and now knee, shortly even if he is a young player, does not seem to have an enviable physical shape Sad

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Quote from: Joca97 on May 30, 2022, 10:35:32 AM

~snip
Djokovic also is well rested o most all matches were avg 2h only on clay so he is fresh.

agree on this, Djokovic seems as back to top form, and Nadal is almost certain having some minor injury, that will brought him down eventually
it seems that Nadal will play tomorrow, and then rest until August and American tour, he does not seem fit, but want to try to get another RG in his hands

nevertheless, getting fourteenth is mission impossible, as he looks right now

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A 1.35 in play bet looked very appealing on Tsitsipas in the second set but I didnt take it.....
luckily! Rune beating him 3 sets to 1 has to be the biggest upset in the tournament, well
done to him.

Ruud beat Hurcacz today to set up an all scandinavian quarter final.....Ruud v Rune

And Sinner is through too, Rublev retired from what I'm not sure yet but its great to see
Sinner in the quarters.

Ah just saw it was Sinner who retired, thats dissapointing.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 05:37:10 AM

Nadal @2.7 in RG against anybody is a good bet. I am just a bit afraid that he is nursing a small injury and he is a player that doesn't forfeit.

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Just placed 2 bets on the match Nadal vs Djokovic as the odds are simply too interesting. Nadal is not in top form with his injury but never rule out Nadal on Roland Garros. Placed a bet (small stake) on Nadal to win @2.95 and a bet with medium stake on Nadal +1.5 sets @2.02. Should be an interesting match to watch!

I dont think thats a smart bet at all going with Nadal in this match. Yeah you can never writeoff Nadal but with how long he played against Auger and his foot injury i think he might even get destroyed in straight sets. Djokovic also is well rested o most all matches were avg 2h only on clay so he is fresh.

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 05:37:10 AM

Nadal @2.7 in RG against anybody is a good bet. I am just a bit afraid that he is nursing a small injury and he is a player that doesn't forfeit.

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Just placed 2 bets on the match Nadal vs Djokovic as the odds are simply too interesting. Nadal is not in top form with his injury but never rule out Nadal on Roland Garros. Placed a bet (small stake) on Nadal to win @2.95 and a bet with medium stake on Nadal +1.5 sets @2.02. Should be an interesting match to watch!

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 30, 2022, 03:52:37 AM

Aliassime is a decent player - but I did not expect he'd give Nadal so many problems.
Đoković looked better so far in the tournament - and is portrayed as a big favorite by the bookies in his forthcoming game against Nadal.

Having the opportunity to bet on Nadal with 2.70 odds is something that I won't miss for sure - I feel it will be more of a 50-50 duel.

Čilić playing Medvedev today - I think a game handicap on Medvedev seems like a decent bet.

Nadal @2.7 in RG against anybody is a good bet. I am just a bit afraid that he is nursing a small injury and he is a player that doesn't forfeit.

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

Two top players with question marks over them, I have gone with a +7.5 on Cilic,
Medvedev just might survive this one, its funny that we havent talked about him
until now when the numbers have thinned and the top seeds remain.

Nadal v Djokovic, thats hard to call, this is the battle of 21 GS' and 20 GS', drawing
level or increasing the distance or neither of the two!

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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 02:39:04 AM

I am actually tipping on Medvedev to loose against Čilić tonight. Čilić is limited player but Medvedev on clay is not someone you have to watch for. Granted maybe he upped his game since I didn't watch him on clay this season but in previous seasons he was just terrible.

My high stake bet goes on handicap and low stake on Čilić to win 3:1.

No way he goes past Tsitsipas for sure if that is the draw. Bear in mind Rune is very dangerous on clay so Tsitsi could have problems as well.

Interesting take, and based on that I've just punted a low stake on 3:1 outright (9.4) and 3:2 (10.9), and I might come back and do the same for Tsitsi who starts really soon Wink

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 30, 2022, 02:53:15 AM

I think that's harsh on FAA, he took the king of clay to five sets and nearly beat him. Nadal may not be at his absolute peak, but remember he did win the AO this year, against Medvedev. And he does have a 27-3 record this year, and is leading the ATP race... so officially no-one in the world has played as well as Nadal in 2022.

I think my pre-match assessment (below) was actually pretty accurate.

Fair enough, and the bookies turned out to be right, only the odds suggested it was a foregone conclusion, I just still think this was the best time to take Nadal out (not on form but on actual current conditions post-injury), and Felix still came up short. I know class is permanent, form temporary, but injury is clear and present danger.

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