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Quote from: aoluain on June 05, 2022, 03:36:55 AM

The same applies to Swiatak, the only way to bet on her is to take
a handicap, otherwise the odds are poor.

Only difference is I was sure Swiatek is covering both set and game handicaps so I had my value in that match without too much thought.

This Nadal game can go wrong very easy. I am expecting him to destroy Ruud but he is still nursing that foot injury and what if it gives him problems? I am also quite sure Nadal would never forfeit RG final and if he gets into problems even Ruud can take it. All those extra factors are destroying my perceived value of bet on RG final.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 05, 2022, 03:04:25 AM

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Regarding the final today - is it possible that Nadal and Ruud never played against each other? Looks like a bizarre statistic and I went to ATP site to look - no history at all.

Nadal is a huge favorite ofc - Ruud's game should suit him.

Agree completely with this and I don't see how Ruud can seriously trouble Nadal. That being said it still though to find a market to bet on that has some value in this match. I went with Nadal to win 3:0 @2.1 but it is risky bet since anybody can loose one set in BO5 match. Other option was 6.5 handicap on Nadal but that is even more risky for me.

Just had to play something to make it even more interesting to watch.

The thing with betting on such a final with Nadal v Ruud is finding a
bit of value in a bet without it becoming too risky. I will probably go
with a handicap on Nadal -4.5 or something like that.

He is 1.17, I wonder would anyone be willing to go "all in" on him
given the fact that he is going to win this?

The same applies to Swiatak, the only way to bet on her is to take
a handicap, otherwise the odds are poor.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on June 05, 2022, 01:41:56 AM

Regarding the final today - is it possible that Nadal and Ruud never played against each other? Looks like a bizarre statistic and I went to ATP site to look - no history at all.

Nadal is a huge favorite ofc - Ruud's game should suit him.

Agree completely with this and I don't see how Ruud can seriously trouble Nadal. That being said it still though to find a market to bet on that has some value in this match. I went with Nadal to win 3:0 @2.1 but it is risky bet since anybody can loose one set in BO5 match. Other option was 6.5 handicap on Nadal but that is even more risky for me.

Just had to play something to make it even more interesting to watch.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 03, 2022, 11:15:52 AM

Anybody watching Nadal-Zverev? Really strange second set with bunch of breaks, WTA stuff. Not a good day for Zverev, spilling 6:2 in set one tie break, not managing to serve out for second set and just now bad ankle twist. I think this match is over and most bets are off. If he comes back after this I'll be really surprised.

Hopefully this will not be a long break for him, but it did not look good.

Yeah, was a bizarre match in general. Regarding the injury - apparently he has torn some ankle ligaments. He is a major doubt for Wimbledon - these things sometimes take a few months until full recovery.
I feel sorry for him - he played a really good match. He was dominating most long points and was forcing Nadal to be at his best.

Regarding the final today - is it possible that Nadal and Ruud never played against each other? Looks like a bizarre statistic and I went to ATP site to look - no history at all.

Nadal is a huge favorite ofc - Ruud's game should suit him.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2022, 09:59:10 AM

Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

Haven't watch it, but yeah, we are in the consensus that Swiatek is in top of her form right now and no one can stop his magical run. In just an hour, she claim the RG for this year.

And she can continue with that 35th win and inching closer the record. And she will be in the same league as legends like Graf, Navratilova, Evert as far as those longest WTA winning runs.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on June 04, 2022, 02:05:50 PM

ever since Ashley Barty retired from tennis, she's been winning everything there is to win. It's a shame that Barty stopped playing tennis at that age. It would be good for tennis if someone comes to play her game, because then we get a little more tension. This is somewhat reminiscent of Djokovic's golden years, when he also won about 40 matches in a row. This lady seems to be working on something similar.

winning a grand slam final with 6-1 6-3 shows how much she's better than other competitors right now, Djokovic's win streak back in the days is a good example that is similar to what Swiatek is doing, and one of her 3 last losses was against Barty but she retired, I wonder is Swiatek is going to keep the same level of intensity throughout the this year.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 03, 2022, 11:15:52 AM

Anybody watching Nadal-Zverev? Really strange second set with bunch of breaks, WTA stuff. Not a good day for Zverev, spilling 6:2 in set one tie break, not managing to serve out for second set and just now bad ankle twist. I think this match is over and most bets are off. If he comes back after this I'll be really surprised.

I could not watch the match of nadal vs zverev and i just read the news about the injury of zverev. I also saw the picture now where the injury happened and it really looks pretty bad. Zverev himself said that it looks like that there are several of his outer bands torn, but that he will fly to germany tomorrow to get a proper examination and an exact diagnose. If his outer Bands are really torn though, then he will probably also miss Wimbledon, which would be very sad for him.

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ever since Ashley Barty retired from tennis, she's been winning everything there is to win. It's a shame that Barty stopped playing tennis at that age. It would be good for tennis if someone comes to play her game, because then we get a little more tension. This is somewhat reminiscent of Djokovic's golden years, when he also won about 40 matches in a row. This lady seems to be working on something similar.

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Quote from: Trofo on June 04, 2022, 12:48:22 PM

Quote from: aoluain on June 04, 2022, 11:41:06 AM

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2022, 09:59:10 AM

Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

she is managing to conduct a very good series of sensational results. perhaps (maybe?) this is due to the lack of noteworthy opponents ... Roll Eyes

now there is criticism that women's tennis is less interesting than men's tennis
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/amelie-mauresmo-mens-womens-tennis-27126187
this year in RG it has been clearly at a second level respect the man tournament....

I didnt watch it TBH, Her win was a foregone conclusion really. There isnt anyone who
can challenge her and she has the chance of winning every tournament this year,
if she stays injury free.

From the result today it looks like Gauff didnt create much of a challenge.

I dont think the womens tennis is less interesting, the matches which Swiatek is
not playing are interesting. There are plenty of good players there who are able
to beat each other which makes for interesting matches.

Couple of stats regarding Swiatek, first of all she is just 21 years old and already plays on such high level and with such mental composure.

This was Swiatek's 9th win in a WTA final, what is even more baffling is the fact that she did not lose more then 5 games in any of them. Must be enough to put some fear in her opponents.

This was her 35th win in a row, which is enough to catch V. Williams record. I am guessing she will be on top alone very soon.

I dont see honestly anyone stopping her at all. She plays so easily and serious and she dominates the field against any opponent.
I see her honestly for a long time on the top and now it will be a difference against 2nd ranked player by 4000-5000 points

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Quote from: aoluain on June 04, 2022, 11:41:06 AM

Quote from: bitbollo on June 04, 2022, 10:52:11 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2022, 09:59:10 AM

Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

she is managing to conduct a very good series of sensational results. perhaps (maybe?) this is due to the lack of noteworthy opponents ... Roll Eyes

now there is criticism that women's tennis is less interesting than men's tennis
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/amelie-mauresmo-mens-womens-tennis-27126187
this year in RG it has been clearly at a second level respect the man tournament....

I didnt watch it TBH, Her win was a foregone conclusion really. There isnt anyone who
can challenge her and she has the chance of winning every tournament this year,
if she stays injury free.

From the result today it looks like Gauff didnt create much of a challenge.

I dont think the womens tennis is less interesting, the matches which Swiatek is
not playing are interesting. There are plenty of good players there who are able
to beat each other which makes for interesting matches.

Couple of stats regarding Swiatek, first of all she is just 21 years old and already plays on such high level and with such mental composure.

This was Swiatek's 9th win in a WTA final, what is even more baffling is the fact that she did not lose more then 5 games in any of them. Must be enough to put some fear in her opponents.

This was her 35th win in a row, which is enough to catch V. Williams record. I am guessing she will be on top alone very soon.

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Quote from: bitbollo on June 04, 2022, 10:52:11 AM

Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2022, 09:59:10 AM

Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

she is managing to conduct a very good series of sensational results. perhaps (maybe?) this is due to the lack of noteworthy opponents ... Roll Eyes

now there is criticism that women's tennis is less interesting than men's tennis
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/amelie-mauresmo-mens-womens-tennis-27126187
this year in RG it has been clearly at a second level respect the man tournament....

I didnt watch it TBH, Her win was a foregone conclusion really. There isnt anyone who
can challenge her and she has the chance of winning every tournament this year,
if she stays injury free.

From the result today it looks like Gauff didnt create much of a challenge.

I dont think the womens tennis is less interesting, the matches which Swiatek is
not playing are interesting. There are plenty of good players there who are able
to beat each other which makes for interesting matches.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2022, 09:59:10 AM

Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

she is managing to conduct a very good series of sensational results. perhaps (maybe?) this is due to the lack of noteworthy opponents ... Roll Eyes

now there is criticism that women's tennis is less interesting than men's tennis
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/amelie-mauresmo-mens-womens-tennis-27126187
this year in RG it has been clearly at a second level respect the man tournament....

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Quote from: Trofo on June 03, 2022, 11:15:52 AM

Anybody watching Nadal-Zverev? Really strange second set with bunch of breaks, WTA stuff. Not a good day for Zverev, spilling 6:2 in set one tie break, not managing to serve out for second set and just now bad ankle twist. I think this match is over and most bets are off. If he comes back after this I'll be really surprised.

Hopefully this will not be a long break for him, but it did not look good.

It didn't look good and it is apparently a very serious injury so probably Zverev will be out for a couple of months which is unfortunate. It would be a very big surprise if Nadal doesn't win his 14th grandslam. Checked the odds and there is not really a lot of value. The only semi interesting bet I could find was Nadal -6.5 games @1.93.

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Quote from: Joca97 on June 04, 2022, 09:59:10 AM

Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

Tottal domination it was a really incredible performance i wonder what caused this change i think bartey retiring made way for less competition for her with the other players out of shape she managed to win all these titles i think she will break the records soon.

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Anyone watched the WTA final on Rolan Garros?

Swiatek won 6-1 6-3 against Gauff and it was just too easy. Swiatek continues to dominate and this is her 35th win in a row and 6th straight title in a row. She is so close to break a couple of records and if she continues to play like this i dont see anyone getting close to beating her

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Quote from: Trofo on June 03, 2022, 04:40:53 PM

I don't see a way for Ruud to make big problems for Nadal. Everything Ruud does in his game Nadal does better. Čilić would have had minimal chances to shoot trough Nadal on a perfect day. Ruud has none IMHO.

Yep, agreed. A straight sets win for Nadal seems the obvious outcome.

It does seem a bit of anticlimax for the final, but it's just because of the luck of the draw. Nadal, Djokovic and Alcaraz were all in the same half, Alcaraz obviously got knocked out early so Nadal vs Djokovic was the big match of the tournament. Then Nadal vs Zverev yesterday was closer than a lot of us would have thought and quite an enthralling match until the unfortunate ending.

But the bottom half of the draw was wide open - because Medvedev had to be seeded 2 because of his ranking, but is obviously weak on clay, and then the other big name Tsitsipas, who really had a golden opportunity to get to the final, also got knocked out early.

It always looked like the winner would come from the Nadal/Djokovic half, with the only real problem being tiredness from a string of tough long matches. Nadal however only had to play 2 sets yesterday (albeit over three hours).

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Quote from: Daniel91 on June 04, 2022, 05:30:58 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on June 03, 2022, 01:20:10 PM

Cilic is up after first set with Ruud

was not aware of that, but Cilic is first active player out of top4 (top3 with Murray) that reached semi-finals on all GS
it was a domination decade, or fifteen years, and it is a question does it near to an end

Ruud has break in second set, but Cilic is closer to final, IMO

Cilic had a great opportunity to play in the finals of the RG, but he once again succumbed to the pressure, as many times before.
After a long time, Cilic played very well in one GS tournament and was realistically the favorite in this semifinal match.
Unfortunately, Čilić played here for himself and for Ruud, he made a lot of mistakes and practically gave the victory to the opponent.
Realistically, Nadal is the absolute favorite in the final and anything but his victory would be a very big surprise.

But Nadal against Ruud is not that bad, just have to look at what betting options we got.

The womens finals is about to start, same as with Nadal's case, Swiatek is the favorite to win and it will take a lot from Gauff to win even a set against Iga here. We haven't seen this kind of performance from a lady since the Williams sister, specially Serena incredible run during her prime.

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Quote from: casperBGD on June 03, 2022, 01:20:10 PM

Cilic is up after first set with Ruud

was not aware of that, but Cilic is first active player out of top4 (top3 with Murray) that reached semi-finals on all GS
it was a domination decade, or fifteen years, and it is a question does it near to an end

Ruud has break in second set, but Cilic is closer to final, IMO

Cilic had a great opportunity to play in the finals of the RG, but he once again succumbed to the pressure, as many times before.
After a long time, Cilic played very well in one GS tournament and was realistically the favorite in this semifinal match.
Unfortunately, Čilić played here for himself and for Ruud, he made a lot of mistakes and practically gave the victory to the opponent.
Realistically, Nadal is the absolute favorite in the final and anything but his victory would be a very big surprise.

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Man. Can't believe the luck I'm having. I actually got refunded on the correct score (3-1) when Zverev retired, but have to say Nadal got away with that. Might have won it eventually but when you're already this far in nursing an injury, you get that kind of walkover and you save your reserves, it's a big deal.

In agreement with everyone else. Had Cilic gone through, and Nadal went the full stretch in the semis, I'd be backing the underdog. But a fresh king of clay and a lucky Ruud? This one's Nadal's to win.

Still, worth a small Ruud win as a hedge (sportsbet superboost takes you almost 5/1!), but I'm going 3:1 Nadal.

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I can't imagine Ruud is going to win this. Nadal is just too good and also a lot to experience. He cannot be beaten here in Paris, and certainly not by Ruud. Although Ruud is of course not a bad player at all. Still the top 10 in the world. But Nadal also knocked out Djokovic in a big way. It would be a huge sensation if Ruud wins this tournament, but I think the chances are very small. Too bad for Zverev, of course.

Looking at the current odds, Ruud is 4:1 underdog against Nadal. So that is a big line coming from Nadal to win. So I would agree that Casper is going to really play hard and flawless if he wanted to upset the best clay court player we have seen. But Maybe Ruud can win at least a set here, I reckon. Zverev though is just unlucky, he leads both set at 4-2 but can't convert it specially the 1st set.

I don't see a way for Ruud to make big problems for Nadal. Everything Ruud does in his game Nadal does better. Čilić would have had minimal chances to shoot trough Nadal on a perfect day. Ruud has none IMHO.

True, although I skipped both of the semi-finals match.

And I would agree that Nadal is unstoppable in clay, we already know this and the one player that might have a chance is his compatriot Alcaraz.

Probably going to be a close 3 set wins for Nadal with tie-breaks. So the Over might be a bit tricky to bet as the scores will really be perfect.

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