Cilic is up after first set with Ruud
was not aware of that, but Cilic is first active player out of top4 (top3 with Murray) that reached semi-finals on all GS
it was a domination decade, or fifteen years, and it is a question does it near to an end
Ruud has break in second set, but Cilic is closer to final, IMO
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Anybody watching Nadal-Zverev? Really strange second set with bunch of breaks, WTA stuff. Not a good day for Zverev, spilling 6:2 in set one tie break, not managing to serve out for second set and just now bad ankle twist. I think this match is over and most bets are off. If he comes back after this I'll be really surprised.
Hopefully this will not be a long break for him, but it did not look good.
Hopefully this will not be a long break for him, but it did not look good.
Who are your favorites in today's semifinals?
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
Well, that will not be an easy task for Zverev. Nadal is the favourite and Zverev the outsider. But that can also be an advantage for him. No one has spoken much about him yet. Mainly only about Djokovic, Nadal and Alcaraz. So he can play freely.
They are currently playing the first set in a tiebreak.
For the other game I do not have a favourit.
Who are your favorites in today's semifinals?
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
I took Zverev to take at least one set @1,6 which should pass easy if he puts in another performance like against Alcaraz. I actually think Nadal has more problems against tall players with strong strokes then against Djoković and Zverev fits both of those categories.I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
Their match from Madrid, Zverev win, does not really count. Those conditions are favouring Zverev to the max while hampering Nadal top spin bounce.
In other match I have Čilić to take at least one set @1,4 and over 38,5 games on other
Who are your favorites in today's semifinals?
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
I think Nadal will continue his winning form but I have a +6.5 handicap on Zverev, I'm
thinking this will be close.
The same goes for the second semi, I think Ruud will win but a handicap bet is on Cilic,
he seems very driven at RG and the closer he gets to the final the better he is getting
What do you all think about Gauff's chances against Swiatek? is it worth doing
a handicap on her or maybe wait for an in play bet and better odds on Swiatek?
Who are your favorites in today's semifinals?
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
I think that I will go with Zverev today, he was really good against Alcaraz. The odds are 3.50, they played twice on clay in 2021 with 1 easy win apiece.
Nadal was brilliant in some moments against Đoković and the general rule is 'don't bet against Rafa in Paris' - but the odds are too good not to give it a shot.
Ruud is a favorite against Čilić as well - but I will skip that one. I can't find any value there.
Swiatek is really without proper competition at the moment. She basically wins every match in straight sets and usually leaves her opponents scrambling for a game or two.
Her performances this year have been quite astonishing. I do wish that Barty hadn't retired, as I think she's the only one who could have given Swiatek some competition. It would have been fascinating to see if Barty could have held on to the number one spot... but we'll never know.
Swiatek's incredible 33 match winning run (so far) is already the third best run this century! Ahead of her is only Serena Williams (34) and Venus (35). So if Swiatek wins at Roland Garros, and then just wins her first round match in whatever tournament is next, she's top.
First place overall going back to the last century is Navratilova on 74, so there's still some way to go to match that!
Edit: of course, Swiatek won the semi, so is now already at 34.
It seems that swiatek has no competition recently she is really dominating womens tennis, another easy win today against kasatkina 2 0 she will face gauff in the final she is heavily favourites but gauff seem to be in her best shape i think she will be tough to beat but i still think swiatek will beat her 2 1.
Yes, I think Swiatek will continue her unbelievable run and win this year's Roland Garros. She simply destroys Kasatkina in two sets.
Gauff is the surprised to reach her maiden French Open, but it will be tough for her to upset the way Swiatek is playing right now. I wouldn't surprised though if this match just go two sets for Swiatek.
Really hope Gauff can make this an interesting match. She has the game for it and I want to see how Swiatek reacts when she gets pressured a bit.
It seems that swiatek has no competition recently she is really dominating womens tennis, another easy win today against kasatkina 2 0 she will face gauff in the final she is heavily favourites but gauff seem to be in her best shape i think she will be tough to beat but i still think swiatek will beat her 2 1.
Yes, I think Swiatek will continue her unbelievable run and win this year's Roland Garros. She simply destroys Kasatkina in two sets.
Gauff is the surprised to reach her maiden French Open, but it will be tough for her to upset the way Swiatek is playing right now. I wouldn't surprised though if this match just go two sets for Swiatek.
It seems that swiatek has no competition recently she is really dominating womens tennis, another easy win today against kasatkina 2 0 she will face gauff in the final she is heavily favourites but gauff seem to be in her best shape i think she will be tough to beat but i still think swiatek will beat her 2 1.
I also think Cilic makes a great impression. And that at his age. One of the most experienced players out there of course. His service is also a great weapon on Gravel. Especially the super tie break in his match against Zverev was impressive, in which he won 9-3. Those are clear numbers. I don't think he's going to win the tournament, but he's still in the semi-finals. That will probably also be the final station.
Yeah, we should give credits for Nadal for making Djokovic uncomfortable specially in the final set. Djokovic missing his shots because he was pressured by Nadal and we all know that Rafa is still the king of clay, his record is astonishing in RG. Now he is the favorite to win again and it's going to be huge as it will cemented his legacy and another great story for him. As we all know that prior to this tournament, Nadal is not 100% healthy.
Even with the injury, Nadal is the big favorite to win the title. If he manages to win against Zverev (maybe it will be a 5 setter), than the final should be almost a walk in the park. Cilic and Ruud are both good players but not on the same level that Zverev let alone Nadal is. I will be looking at some odds later tonight to see if there is any value in the match Nadal vs Zverev.
If the match goes into 5 sets i think that its more likely that Zverev will win. Nadal to win this match needs to do it quick and fast to avoid getting his injury bigger. But if Zverev plays like against Alcaraz he will win for sure against Nadal
Yeah, we should give credits for Nadal for making Djokovic uncomfortable specially in the final set. Djokovic missing his shots because he was pressured by Nadal and we all know that Rafa is still the king of clay, his record is astonishing in RG. Now he is the favorite to win again and it's going to be huge as it will cemented his legacy and another great story for him. As we all know that prior to this tournament, Nadal is not 100% healthy.
Even with the injury, Nadal is the big favorite to win the title. If he manages to win against Zverev (maybe it will be a 5 setter), than the final should be almost a walk in the park. Cilic and Ruud are both good players but not on the same level that Zverev let alone Nadal is. I will be looking at some odds later tonight to see if there is any value in the match Nadal vs Zverev.
It looks like Djokovic hasn't come to the form once after the covid-19 vaccine issue that kept him away from playing few tournament. The sets were won consecutively, and the same made the match more interesting. Finally Nadal was able to make it after hard fight. This year looks to be good for Nadal.
I definitely agree with you. This year Djokovic has lost a lot of matches and sets as probably never in his career as number 1.
There may be several explanations for this debacle, what is certain is that it is not the number 1 that we are used to seeing.
For the bettor it becomes more interesting to bet against him than in favor ...(because in any case the odds are always lower than the average)
I liked Zverev in the quarter-finals against Carlos Alcaraz. He played much more concentrated and was on his game from the start. In contrast to the round of 16 against Bernabe Zapata Miralles, he was much more aggressive and Alcaraz could not implement his dominant style of play. Now he is in the semi-finals for the second time.
Djokovic started the match really bad and didnt look like himself at all
It looks like Djokovic hasn't come to the form
I think this is harsh on Nadal. Djokovic didn't beat himself, Nadal beat him. And it's not like Djokovic was struggling at this tournament, he breezed through every match in straight sets until he came up against Nadal.
Nadal can make anyone look bad on clay. If Djokovic is missing shots, this is often because Nadal is putting him in a position where he is likely to miss them. If Djokovic is making "unforced" errors, then likely this is because he is trying too hard, going for riskier shots because he knows that anything less would not be good enough against Nadal.
Yeah, we should give credits for Nadal for making Djokovic uncomfortable specially in the final set. Djokovic missing his shots because he was pressured by Nadal and we all know that Rafa is still the king of clay, his record is astonishing in RG. Now he is the favorite to win again and it's going to be huge as it will cemented his legacy and another great story for him. As we all know that prior to this tournament, Nadal is not 100% healthy.
Čilić was brilliant in the tie-break yesterday, he was hitting everything. He was better in key moments throughout the match and is deservedly in the semifinals.
The tennis they showed wasn't really on the highest level - too many unforced errors and a lot of service winners - quite a boring match to watch.
Čilić has a great chance tomorrow - if he wins against Ruud (unlikely IMO) he will reach the final in all Grand Slam tournaments.
The tennis they showed wasn't really on the highest level - too many unforced errors and a lot of service winners - quite a boring match to watch.
Čilić has a great chance tomorrow - if he wins against Ruud (unlikely IMO) he will reach the final in all Grand Slam tournaments.
Cilic went into semi-final, marking three matches in row in this QF, that I have completely missed (expected all favorites to go through, is that hard enough)
will Rune finish it off, with all bigger odds to go through? not sure
Ruud has a great chance to reach final, although Cilic knows how to play GS matches, and it will be more than interesting whoever goes on him into SF
Cilic got lucky man, the spur of points in the 5th set tiebreaker was so unlucky for Rublev
He played so well, just to end up having bad luck in the tie-breaker
Whoever Cilic gets in SF, it's going to be his last match for sure. The guy pisses me off too, because of how long he takes to serve. I hope he gets a game penalty in SF lol
Cilic has been quite remarkable in RG so far, to continue his good form into the match
today to beat Rublev is very different to how I normally see him. He took his chances in
the 5th set tiebreak and landed his shots.
I dont think he takes any longer than most players on serve, Nadal yesterday was
taking 28 seconds regularly from when the score was called while Djokovic was around
the 20 seconds.
I have to admit that Cilic really surprised me this year at RG.
His biggest successes, winning the GS in America, and the finals in Wimbledon and Australian happened a few years ago and since then Cilic has been in a big crisis and has not achieved any valuable result in tennis tournaments.
The public in Croatia had already lost faith in him and we expected him to retire from tennis.
Old Cilic would smoothly lose matches like this one in the quarterfinals against Rublev, but this is a new Cilic with great mental strength and stability, and I would say that he is now the favorite for the finals.
If he succeeds, it will be a really huge result, because how many tennis players today, in the age of the big three in world tennis, can boast that they played in the finals of all 4 GS?
Had he been born at a different time, Cilic would probably have won at least 5-6 GS tournaments by now.
Unfortunately, he is one of the most underrated tennis players today.
We can only question his injury problems since I don't belive it is possible to play like that even if you have some minor discomfort.
He definitely has a foot problem, and has done his entire life... This page has some interesting background on the problem.
It's a birth defect, which he manages with painkillers and a specially customised shoe. In fact it's likely the altered weight distribution due to this solution is what led to the knee problems that have plagued him through his career, too. There is absolutely definitely a physical problem with his foot, which can't be fixed and has to be managed. But perhaps it is misleading that we call it an injury, as it is more fundamental than that. And yes, it is quite astonishing that someone with this condition can become the most successful male tennis player of all time. Apparently he can't remember ever playing without pain.
Djokovic started the match really bad and didnt look like himself at all
It looks like Djokovic hasn't come to the form
I think this is harsh on Nadal. Djokovic didn't beat himself, Nadal beat him. And it's not like Djokovic was struggling at this tournament, he breezed through every match in straight sets until he came up against Nadal.
Nadal can make anyone look bad on clay. If Djokovic is missing shots, this is often because Nadal is putting him in a position where he is likely to miss them. If Djokovic is making "unforced" errors, then likely this is because he is trying too hard, going for riskier shots because he knows that anything less would not be good enough against Nadal.
We can only question his injury problems since I don't belive it is possible to play like that even if you have some minor discomfort.
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