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Quote from: Trofo on May 30, 2022, 02:39:04 AM

I am actually tipping on Medvedev to loose against Čilić tonight. Čilić is limited player but Medvedev on clay is not someone you have to watch for. Granted maybe he upped his game since I didn't watch him on clay this season but in previous seasons he was just terrible.

My high stake bet goes on handicap and low stake on Čilić to win 3:1.

No way he goes past Tsitsipas for sure if that is the draw. Bear in mind Rune is very dangerous on clay so Tsitsi could have problems as well.

Interesting take, and based on that I've just punted a low stake on 3:1 outright (9.4) and 3:2 (10.9), and I might come back and do the same for Tsitsi who starts really soon Wink

Quote from: Cnut237 on May 30, 2022, 02:53:15 AM

I think that's harsh on FAA, he took the king of clay to five sets and nearly beat him. Nadal may not be at his absolute peak, but remember he did win the AO this year, against Medvedev. And he does have a 27-3 record this year, and is leading the ATP race... so officially no-one in the world has played as well as Nadal in 2022.

I think my pre-match assessment (below) was actually pretty accurate.

Fair enough, and the bookies turned out to be right, only the odds suggested it was a foregone conclusion, I just still think this was the best time to take Nadal out (not on form but on actual current conditions post-injury), and Felix still came up short. I know class is permanent, form temporary, but injury is clear and present danger.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on May 30, 2022, 03:52:37 AM

Aliassime is a decent player - but I did not expect he'd give Nadal so many problems.
Đoković looked better so far in the tournament - and is portrayed as a big favorite by the bookies in his forthcoming game against Nadal.

Having the opportunity to bet on Nadal with 2.70 odds is something that I won't miss for sure - I feel it will be more of a 50-50 duel.

Čilić playing Medvedev today - I think a game handicap on Medvedev seems like a decent bet.

Nadal @2.7 in RG against anybody is a good bet. I am just a bit afraid that he is nursing a small injury and he is a player that doesn't forfeit.

We are on opposite sides of that Medvedev-Cilic match. I have a bet on over games, Čilić +6.5, Čilić to win and Čilić to win 3:1. As I said before Medvedev on clay had never been even competent player. Maybe he changed something this season but I am trusting in his usual clay results.

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Aliassime is a decent player - but I did not expect he'd give Nadal so many problems.
Đoković looked better so far in the tournament - and is portrayed as a big favorite by the bookies in his forthcoming game against Nadal.

Having the opportunity to bet on Nadal with 2.70 odds is something that I won't miss for sure - I feel it will be more of a 50-50 duel.

Čilić playing Medvedev today - I think a game handicap on Medvedev seems like a decent bet.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 30, 2022, 01:22:04 AM

Whoever it was who said Felix doesn't got what it takes: you were right. Yes, it's Nadal, it's anyone's game to lose on the king of red but really, if you can't beat a guy out of his prime and nursing injury, man, what will it take?

I think that's harsh on FAA, he took the king of clay to five sets and nearly beat him. Nadal may not be at his absolute peak, but remember he did win the AO this year, against Medvedev. And he does have a 27-3 record this year, and is leading the ATP race... so officially no-one in the world has played as well as Nadal in 2022.

I think my pre-match assessment (below) was actually pretty accurate.

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Do you think Felix AA has enough to beat Nadal tomorrow?

Just checking the odds on Rollbit has Nadal clear favourite, 1.14 to
5.8, I know that isnt always accurate but the general sentiment is
Nadal to progress but I would love to see Felix AA progressing through.

I think that normally Nadal should beat FAA on clay. And Nadal has been playing well this week, too. My uncertainty really comes from the fact that Nadal has just returned from injury. It's a big ask to get through round after round of a slam if you're not 100% match fit, and especially if you're managing an injury. He's looked untroubled so far, but he's not really been tested. If he gets into a long attritional match, I don't know.

I won't be betting on this one. I do think Nadal is more likely to win, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if he doesn't.

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Quote from: buwaytress on May 30, 2022, 01:22:04 AM

Whoever it was who said Felix doesn't got what it takes: you were right. Yes, it's Nadal, it's anyone's game to lose on the king of red but really, if you can't beat a guy out of his prime and nursing injury, man, what will it take?

Anyway, if Tsitsi then makes it past Medvedev (it's gotta be him who goes through no?) looks set for another vs Djoko final, that's got to be it, right? Or is Nadal really going for his 22nd?

I am actually tipping on Medvedev to loose against Čilić tonight. Čilić is limited player but Medvedev on clay is not someone you have to watch for. Granted maybe he upped his game since I didn't watch him on clay this season but in previous seasons he was just terrible.

My high stake bet goes on handicap and low stake on Čilić to win 3:1.

No way he goes past Tsitsipas for sure if that is the draw. Bear in mind Rune is very dangerous on clay so Tsitsi could have problems as well.

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Whoever it was who said Felix doesn't got what it takes: you were right. Yes, it's Nadal, it's anyone's game to lose on the king of red but really, if you can't beat a guy out of his prime and nursing injury, man, what will it take?

Anyway, if Tsitsi then makes it past Medvedev (it's gotta be him who goes through no?) looks set for another vs Djoko final, that's got to be it, right? Or is Nadal really going for his 22nd?

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Quote from: KennyR on May 29, 2022, 08:13:45 AM

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Quote from: Jating on May 29, 2022, 04:01:00 AM

^ Yeah, very interesting that L. Fernandez has gone in the 4th round already while a lot of ranked ladies are falling.

Nadal vs FAA, and Alcaraz vs Khachanov. Just put a parlay on this game, +7.5 on FAA and KK +8.5 for a good 3.17 odds. I'm thinking that this could be a 3 set victory for either Nadal or Alcaraz, but maybe it will be close that the final score can be somewhat covered by FAA and KK.

I think nadal will have no problem getting past aliassime but i expect the canadian to put a good resistance and maybe win a set against nadal but for khachanov i dont think he will be able to resist alcaraz on clay.

Auger Aliassime is giving hard fight against Nadal. There is consecutive scoring for the first three points of the set. Right now Aliassime leads the first set scoring the fourth point and the set turns 3-1, but the odds for Nadal is low stating he has the increased winning probability. Aliassime have won the last two matches in direct sets, and in this match the experience might gain importance.

Yes, as I expected, FAA will be a tough match for Nadal and he forces a 5th set but he lost, and although Nadal cover the spread for me, Alcaraz though demolished KK without any problems. I was speculating that at least KK will win 1 set to cover that spread for me, but I guess Alcaraz is just too good now after those early scare.

Ruud vs. Hurkacz, -2.5 for Ruud anyone? or you think that Hurkacz might surprised as here?

Tsitsipas vs. Rune - I will go with the Over 33.5.

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So it's inevitable, Djokovic vs Nadal in the quarterfinals.

Nadal though has to pull another comeback win in 5 sets against Felix-AA. Was interesting though that this is just the 3rd time that Nadal has been stretch to five sets in RG.

So this is a blockbuster game, Djokovic the favorite to win at 1.42 based on the current odds. But I wouldn't discount Nadal yet.

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Alcaraz win against Kachanov with not much difficulty in just 3 sets and tomorrow will face Zverev.
The Spanish seems in a very good moment of his career and he is playing very well.
Meanwhile Zverev seems a bit in difficulty in this tournament (if you have seen the third set against Nakashima it's clear what I mean...)
Let's see tomorrow what happens... there is a nice show for this match.

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Quote from: casperBGD on May 29, 2022, 11:56:52 AM

looking at Nadal against FAA, it seems that we will not see Djokovic vs Nadal classic after all
or if we see it, Djokovic will win in easy three setter

Zverev is really good this season, and it will be interesting to see him against Alcaraz, maybe he can improve on Madrid easy loss

back to Nadal vs FAA it is 3:3 in fifth set, but Nadal does not look confident at the moment

Not the expected performance from nadal if he plays like this against djokovic he will surely lose it might even be a 3 0 loss as you said, and for zverev it will be difficult for him to beat alcaraz especially after today performance he seemed to be having difficulties against zapata miralles in the first two sets i think alcaraz is young and pationate not to mention tallented and really good on clay i think he will get past zverev.

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Even though Nadal won, I think it's a somewhat disappointing result. He was the top favorite to win the tournament, but in this match he could have just lost. It's nice that he finally won it. This match cost him a lot of energy. He was also a spectator yesterday at the Real Madrid-Liverpool match, maybe he had some celebration afterwards, because today was so difficult.

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Quote from: bitbollo on May 29, 2022, 12:19:12 PM

At the end Nadal was able to win this long match versus FAA in 5 set!
Maybe he was tired from yesterday Final of UCL? Grin

I had the impression that Nadal work really harder than he should do, at least much more than his past performances or best condition... we are probably close to the "end of an era"...
FAA demonstrated to be an interesting player for the future.

It was a very interesting match with lots of great points. I was already talking about FAA before and he can be very tricky on his day, unfortunately for him that is not so often. He has the serve and strokes to hurt anybody and he showed that today. I expected him to take a set, and first set is usually easiest to take in matches like this. That 4th set was a real surprise for me, I thought Nadal broke him already

There is a day of rest before his next so he will have time for rest and recuperation.

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At the end Nadal was able to win this long match versus FAA in 5 set!
Maybe he was tired from yesterday Final of UCL? Grin

I had the impression that Nadal work really harder than he should do, at least much more than his past performances or best condition... we are probably close to the "end of an era"...
FAA demonstrated to be an interesting player for the future.

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looking at Nadal against FAA, it seems that we will not see Djokovic vs Nadal classic after all
or if we see it, Djokovic will win in easy three setter

Zverev is really good this season, and it will be interesting to see him against Alcaraz, maybe he can improve on Madrid easy loss

back to Nadal vs FAA it is 3:3 in fifth set, but Nadal does not look confident at the moment

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Quote from: Ratash on May 29, 2022, 06:49:22 AM

Quote from: Jating on May 29, 2022, 04:01:00 AM

^ Yeah, very interesting that L. Fernandez has gone in the 4th round already while a lot of ranked ladies are falling.

Nadal vs FAA, and Alcaraz vs Khachanov. Just put a parlay on this game, +7.5 on FAA and KK +8.5 for a good 3.17 odds. I'm thinking that this could be a 3 set victory for either Nadal or Alcaraz, but maybe it will be close that the final score can be somewhat covered by FAA and KK.

I think nadal will have no problem getting past aliassime but i expect the canadian to put a good resistance and maybe win a set against nadal but for khachanov i dont think he will be able to resist alcaraz on clay.

Auger Aliassime is giving hard fight against Nadal. There is consecutive scoring for the first three points of the set. Right now Aliassime leads the first set scoring the fourth point and the set turns 3-1, but the odds for Nadal is low stating he has the increased winning probability. Aliassime have won the last two matches in direct sets, and in this match the experience might gain importance.

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Quote from: Jating on May 29, 2022, 04:01:00 AM

^ Yeah, very interesting that L. Fernandez has gone in the 4th round already while a lot of ranked ladies are falling.

Nadal vs FAA, and Alcaraz vs Khachanov. Just put a parlay on this game, +7.5 on FAA and KK +8.5 for a good 3.17 odds. I'm thinking that this could be a 3 set victory for either Nadal or Alcaraz, but maybe it will be close that the final score can be somewhat covered by FAA and KK.

Well Fernandez won her match against Anisimova, 6-3, 4-6, 6-3, seems like a comfortable
win, she goes now to the Quarter Finals now against Trevisan. I bet on a 5.5 handicap
on Fernandez and 30 seconds later I just bet on a straight win, so all good.

Thats an interesting parlay both bets on handicap. I too have Felix AA and Khachanov
on handicaps but not on parlay, I never think to do it like that !

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Quote from: Jating on May 29, 2022, 04:01:00 AM

^ Yeah, very interesting that L. Fernandez has gone in the 4th round already while a lot of ranked ladies are falling.

Nadal vs FAA, and Alcaraz vs Khachanov. Just put a parlay on this game, +7.5 on FAA and KK +8.5 for a good 3.17 odds. I'm thinking that this could be a 3 set victory for either Nadal or Alcaraz, but maybe it will be close that the final score can be somewhat covered by FAA and KK.

I think nadal will have no problem getting past aliassime but i expect the canadian to put a good resistance and maybe win a set against nadal but for khachanov i dont think he will be able to resist alcaraz on clay.

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^ Yeah, very interesting that L. Fernandez has gone in the 4th round already while a lot of ranked ladies are falling.

Nadal vs FAA, and Alcaraz vs Khachanov. Just put a parlay on this game, +7.5 on FAA and KK +8.5 for a good 3.17 odds. I'm thinking that this could be a 3 set victory for either Nadal or Alcaraz, but maybe it will be close that the final score can be somewhat covered by FAA and KK.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 28, 2022, 11:17:28 PM

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In the next round there are two games that i am interested in and it seems that they will be very competitive, the first one is ruud vs hurkacz and the second one is rublev vs sinner i think they will be close ones and i would bet on more than 3 sets in both of them.

Yes, this two games are going to be closed. Rublev though is the slight favorite against Sinner, but Janik is performing good in this tournament, and maybe this could go max fifth set. So there are going to be very interesting odds, but I might go with the Over in both games. As for the top three seeds, yeah, they can go all to the next rounds without any problems.

Rublev v Sinner has the potential to be very close, I would like to see Sinner progress
through and I think and IMO he is playing slightly better than Rublev, should make for
a great match.

Couple of interesting matches on the womens side today.
Fernandez faces Anisimova,
I am hoping she progresses through, she is higher ranked and is playing quite well so
far but is not the favoirite.

Also Teichmann faces Stephens today which is interesting. Teichmann is
performing well at RG and went well at Rome despatching Pliscova and Rybakina but
then got injured I thank and lost the QF there, anyway she is favourite today against
the surprise return of Stephens.

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Quote from: Ratash on May 28, 2022, 04:32:21 PM

In the next round there are two games that i am interested in and it seems that they will be very competitive, the first one is ruud vs hurkacz and the second one is rublev vs sinner i think they will be close ones and i would bet on more than 3 sets in both of them.

Yes, this two games are going to be closed. Rublev though is the slight favorite against Sinner, but Janik is performing good in this tournament, and maybe this could go max fifth set. So there are going to be very interesting odds, but I might go with the Over in both games. As for the top three seeds, yeah, they can go all to the next rounds without any problems.

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