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Quote from: Joca97 on February 12, 2022, 04:57:34 PM

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Quote from: aoluain on February 12, 2022, 12:59:15 PM

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but he won the following 2 sets.

On Tsitsipas, is it my imagination or does he seem to do better in the lesser
competitions rather than the grand slams? I definitely think a lot was expected
of him last year but has only 2 titles and more expected this year. I think he is
good to win Rotterdam, he should beat either Rublev or Felix AA IMO.

Also in grand slams he can reach far, but Tsitsipas is not always consistent. He reached 3 times the semifinals on AO (also this year) and already reached the final in Roland Garros. I think it is a matter of time before he wins his first grandslam.

Tsitsipas is never consistent. He is so called one of the best in the world but cannot win any tournament. All of his points are from finals or semi finals. He dosent have that winning mentality to win a big tournament or even any tournament but he is still in top 10

Being from the sporting background he has made his entry into the top 10 list. His mother being a professional at Women's Tennis Association and his father serving as his coach is something to note. From the very early age he's playing tennis and he's just 23 which lets him win more events.

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Quote from: babygun on February 12, 2022, 01:26:24 PM

Quote from: aoluain on February 12, 2022, 12:59:15 PM

^
but he won the following 2 sets.

On Tsitsipas, is it my imagination or does he seem to do better in the lesser
competitions rather than the grand slams? I definitely think a lot was expected
of him last year but has only 2 titles and more expected this year. I think he is
good to win Rotterdam, he should beat either Rublev or Felix AA IMO.

Also in grand slams he can reach far, but Tsitsipas is not always consistent. He reached 3 times the semifinals on AO (also this year) and already reached the final in Roland Garros. I think it is a matter of time before he wins his first grandslam.

Tsitsipas is never consistent. He is so called one of the best in the world but cannot win any tournament. All of his points are from finals or semi finals. He dosent have that winning mentality to win a big tournament or even any tournament but he is still in top 10

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Quote from: aoluain on February 12, 2022, 12:59:15 PM

^
but he won the following 2 sets.

On Tsitsipas, is it my imagination or does he seem to do better in the lesser
competitions rather than the grand slams? I definitely think a lot was expected
of him last year but has only 2 titles and more expected this year. I think he is
good to win Rotterdam, he should beat either Rublev or Felix AA IMO.

Also in grand slams he can reach far, but Tsitsipas is not always consistent. He reached 3 times the semifinals on AO (also this year) and already reached the final in Roland Garros. I think it is a matter of time before he wins his first grandslam.

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^
but he won the following 2 sets.

On Tsitsipas, is it my imagination or does he seem to do better in the lesser
competitions rather than the grand slams? I definitely think a lot was expected
of him last year but has only 2 titles and more expected this year. I think he is
good to win Rotterdam, he should beat either Rublev or Felix AA IMO.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 12, 2022, 03:39:43 AM

Two semi-finals today in Rotterdam:

Tsitsipas v Lehecka and Felix AA v Rublev

TBH I was surprised with Lehecka's win over Musetti, I'm glad I didnt bet
on any of the quarter-finals yesterday. I cannot see him getting past Tsitsipas
as per the odds:

Tsitsipas 1.11 - 6.20 Lehecka

I'm just following the match between Tsitsipas and Leheck and the Greek is about to lose the first set.
Leheck is currently leading 5:3 in the first set.
Is a big surprise and a victory for Leheck possible in this match?
Too bad I didn’t try to bet on Leheck, given the odds Grin

What do you think?
Tsitsipas has not achieved a great tennis result for a long time.
EDIT: Tsitsipas just lost the first set.

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Quote from: Jating on February 12, 2022, 07:02:25 AM

^^ I like the -4.5 for Stefanos Tsitsipas here, I think he can cover this spread and should be well rested. Don't want to end in 2-0 set though as the chances of that spread is slim. Most likely a 3 set victory is good to cover it.

What you wrote does not make much sense. When you play handicap on a favorite player you hope for 2:0 every single time before the match starts. For instance clear 6:3 6:4 makes your bet winning but if Tsitsipas losses one set, even in Tie Break then it is not enough to cover the spread. If it gets to 6:6 in a set then you hope that your favorite looses it and makes up for it in the rest of the match

I am skipping this match since I made a lot of money on Lehecka this weak and don't want to go against him. If I had to play something I would opt for 2:0 for Tsitsi. Would not be surprised if this finishes 7:6 6:4

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^^ I like the -4.5 for Stefanos Tsitsipas here, I think he can cover this spread and should be well rested. Don't want to end in 2-0 set though as the chances of that spread is slim. Most likely a 3 set victory is good to cover it.

Same with Rublev s FAA, Rublev -1.5 and over 23.5. It will be a great battle but I'm seeing Rublev winning in a close 3 set match.

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Two semi-finals today in Rotterdam:

Tsitsipas v Lehecka and Felix AA v Rublev

TBH I was surprised with Lehecka's win over Musetti, I'm glad I didnt bet
on any of the quarter-finals yesterday. I cannot see him getting past Tsitsipas
as per the odds:

Tsitsipas 1.11 - 6.20 Lehecka

The match between Norrie and Felix AA seems to have been a right old
battle over 2 sets, We should see a stronger year this year for Felix. Will he
manage to get past Rublev? The odds suggest it will be close:

Rublev 1.62 - Felix AA 2.26

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Quote from: Trofo on February 10, 2022, 11:42:56 AM

Quote from: darxiaomi on February 10, 2022, 09:56:49 AM

Maybe you dont know one more bad thing really bad thing happen to Delpo the last times, Im from Argentina like him so i have more information for local media.

Never heard about that part of Delpo problems, I believe it has not made news outside of Argentina. I am a bit surprised Delpo hasn't shown his face on some Grand Slam if he has money problems, I am quite sure he is still big enough name to get invitation to one of them and just showing there pays very good money (over 100k$ in AO this year).

His playing career is probably over but I am sure he has good connections in Argentina Tennis association so maybe some job as Davis Cup manager or similar could be in cards for him.

Well man i have to have re-answer you sadly. Look at this.

"They seized the prize to Del Potro that he received for participating in the Argentina Open: he has millionaire debts."

That its the tittle of the note. So look automatically he collect his prices its seized by the law. I dont know how he can make to won anything.

https://www.iprofesional.com/actualidad/357298-embargaron-el-premio-a-del-potro-que-cobro-en-argentina-open

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Yes man its truly sad. I copy here the link to all who understand spanish.

https://www.parati.com.ar/news/la-millonaria-estafa-del-padre-a-juan-martin-del-potro-dilapido-su-fortuna-con-malos-negocios-solo-le-quedan-deudas-y-el-10-de-lo-que-gano/

And yes , he maybe and i think the same can work in the Argentina Tennis Association but here all knows they are a snake nest.
To take an example for a lot of years Argentina played the Davis Cup without some players because they were fighting with the association. And the boss changing and the problem still because have factions.

Here a lot of tennis player go to the media like periodist or presentators for ESPN or FOX like Juan Ignacio Chela, Monaco and others.
But Delpo is a shy guy so dont make sense to go to the media for presentator, maybe can be a good comentator in the big tournaments like Clerc a 70` player who won a lot of tournaments and its the commentator for Latin America in the bigs torunaments por ESPN.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on February 10, 2022, 09:56:49 AM

Maybe you dont know one more bad thing really bad thing happen to Delpo the last times, Im from Argentina like him so i have more information for local media.

Never heard about that part of Delpo problems, I believe it has not made news outside of Argentina. I am a bit surprised Delpo hasn't shown his face on some Grand Slam if he has money problems, I am quite sure he is still big enough name to get invitation to one of them and just showing there pays very good money (over 100k$ in AO this year).

His playing career is probably over but I am sure he has good connections in Argentina Tennis association so maybe some job as Davis Cup manager or similar could be in cards for him.

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Quote from: Trofo on February 09, 2022, 01:06:43 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on February 08, 2022, 05:26:31 PM

Today he's playing against Delbonis. If seems like the odds are above 2.5 for Delpo. In the last five matches Delbonis have lost four matches. It is clear that the injuries that hurting the performance. This match is predicted to be win for Delbonis. Anyhow before revealing his announcement on retirement going for a bet on him is good.

Delpo did not have a chance, injuries plus that big pause left their mark and his timings were off. He started with a break and then lost most of the remaining games. Too bad, would love that he managed to get a win on his last tournament.

Maybe you dont know one more bad thing really bad thing happen to Delpo the last times, Im from Argentina like him so i have more information for local media.
The last year his father dies, for all people this its a massive blow but in this cases, his father managed all the economy of Del Potro.
So its a double blow.
The real big problem becomes when the las month he start to receive a debt mails or i dont know how to say correctly in english.
Well the things its his father lost all the money he win during his career. And this not finish not only lose the money also have debts for the same amount.
Like most people know Argentina its a big field and a top in Agro-business well Del Potro father invest in this but i dont know how he managed to lose all.
So imagine Delpo mind. You are fighting to a injury and you receive the dead of your father and after know your father ruins you, and now you maybe are poor. And for worst you cant still playing for that injury.

I remember the Copa David win against Croatia. So thanks for that.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on February 10, 2022, 05:00:56 AM

Andy Murray is a legendary player and no one can doubt that, but we have to realise that he’ll never be the same player he was and I believe he knows that too and now he’s just trying to see how long he can continue before calling it quits. Lastly I believe he should retire and get back as a coach in this game, because with his expertise he could groom many future stars.

Retired and getting back as a coach will be better for him as he does not make him injury for more because, at his age, the recovery process will take a long time and will not give him back to the full performance. If he can get many talented players and gives better guidance, he can provide a chance for the young generations to continue his style because, from those gifted players, he can get one or two good gifted players. That will be the legacy and give him more popularity as a coach.

Btw, thanks for the article.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2022, 07:20:54 AM

If I'm not mistaken, it took him years to recuperate and recover from his injuries. And when he did a comeback it is obvious that he is not going to perform at the level he wanted to be and has been thinking of retiring. And yet he join minor tournaments in hope to win at least one title in his comeback. But it is too much for him as the fresh blood is beating him. But during his prime, on the best of the top 3 can compete with Andy as he is hard to beat.

It could be right. When we are injured, especially heavily injured, our chances of recovering will not be too big to back our performances. Even if he decides to come back, that will not give him a chance to use his best performance, and even he can get another injured.

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Andy has a tough match today, 24hrs after his Bublik match. He is scheduled
to play Felix AA, The odds are: Murray 2.60 - 1.40, I' m going small on Felix AA
to win this one. Next day match for Murray v a real up and coming player.

I also have Rublev to beat Kwon and Tsitsipas to beat Ivashka

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Quote from: yayayo on February 09, 2022, 02:06:01 PM

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

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Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

At least, Murray needs to recover from curing his injury but hopefully, that does not take too long to recover. Even if he can fully recover from torn ACL, that will not be his best performance because he already got a serious injury. I wonder who will be the next Murray this year. Maybe he will decide to retire from basketball because he can not force himself to get his reputation after being injured.

It is normal to see an aged player replaced by young talent because the team needs fresh blood to lift their position step by step.

If I'm not mistaken, it took him years to recuperate and recover from his injuries. And when he did a comeback it is obvious that he is not going to perform at the level he wanted to be and has been thinking of retiring. And yet he join minor tournaments in hope to win at least one title in his comeback. But it is too much for him as the fresh blood is beating him. But during his prime, on the best of the top 3 can compete with Andy as he is hard to beat.

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Quote from: yayayo on February 09, 2022, 02:06:01 PM

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

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Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

At least, Murray needs to recover from curing his injury but hopefully, that does not take too long to recover. Even if he can fully recover from torn ACL, that will not be his best performance because he already got a serious injury. I wonder who will be the next Murray this year. Maybe he will decide to retire from basketball because he can not force himself to get his reputation after being injured.

It is normal to see an aged player replaced by young talent because the team needs fresh blood to lift their position step by step.

Andy Murray is a legendary player and no one can doubt that, but we have to realise that he’ll never be the same player he was and I believe he knows that too and now he’s just trying to see how long he can continue before calling it quits. Lastly I believe he should retire and get back as a coach in this game, because with his expertise he could groom many future stars.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 09, 2022, 08:50:42 PM

Quote from: yayayo on February 09, 2022, 02:06:01 PM

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

At least, Murray needs to recover from curing his injury but hopefully, that does not take too long to recover. Even if he can fully recover from torn ACL, that will not be his best performance because he already got a serious injury. I wonder who will be the next Murray this year. Maybe he will decide to retire from basketball because he can not force himself to get his reputation after being injured.

It is normal to see an aged player replaced by young talent because the team needs fresh blood to lift their position step by step.

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Quote from: aoluain on February 09, 2022, 04:31:47 PM

Murray did well to get past Bublik, tough tie break first set and all it took
in the second set was a break.

The benefit of being a top player with multi grand slam wins and more
grand slam runner up's is skills and experience, these are carrying Andy
through his flexibility and movement until he comes up against those
players who have the same or better skills and more movement.

Yeah thats what happened today his experience gave him an advantage i did not expect him to win 2 0 especially after bublik unexpected victory 2 0 against zverev in the montpellier tournament but next he will face aliassime i highly doubt that he will get past him especially that aliassime is one of the best players right now.

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Quote from: yayayo on February 09, 2022, 02:06:01 PM

Andy Murray has been one of the best players in the world for years. It was actually inconceivable that he would find his way back to the world top after a new hip. Moreover, he has also aged a bit. If he had been as good as he was then without a new hip, this would have just been a top 5 player in the world. Was actually the only player who could make it difficult for Federer and Djokovic along with Nadal. I don't think Murray will ever really get to his old level again or anywhere near it.

ya.ya.yo!

Of course, during his best days, he is considered one of the best, that's why it is called big 4 at some point because they are all winning the tournaments, almost.

But with his injury and him trying to make his way again in the tournament, it will be difficult as there are new breed of young talents plus his body is no longer there. I guess the grind of this sports really took a toll from the best like Andy.

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Murray did well to get past Bublik, tough tie break first set and all it took
in the second set was a break.

The benefit of being a top player with multi grand slam wins and more
grand slam runner up's is skills and experience, these are carrying Andy
through his flexibility and movement until he comes up against those
players who have the same or better skills and more movement.

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