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Quote from: Ratash on January 31, 2022, 04:46:12 PM

Many high ranked players are interested in montpellier ATP tournament zverev and monfils are the favourite ones to win it, goffin last year winner was not doing good this season and since last year he did not win any tournament but he did well today getting past bonzi with 2 1 score i hope he get back to his form.

I don't think Goffin will win it (or win any other tournament any more). He has had some good seasons (ranked in the top10), but the last couple of years, he has really been nowwhere... Biggest candidate to win the tournament is Zverev in my eyes.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 31, 2022, 07:19:04 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 31, 2022, 03:28:29 AM

What Nadal did yesterday was simply outstanding. It just shows how dominant the old 3 were in their prime (Federer, Nadal, Đoković) compared to anything else we have seen in tennis before and after it.
Medvedev is a great player - he's got it all. Yet - he's already 25 years old and has only one GS to his name so far. I'm really glad Nadal has won it, the battle between him and Đoković for the top spot is still on. It will be a fantastic Rolland Garros.

It will be a fantastic Roland Garros if Djokovic is allowed to play at all because of the strict Covid rules in France Grin

Djokovic could easily have a scenario from a nightmare, Nadal wins more GS tournaments this year, especially the next GS in Paris, while he watches it at home on TV because he is not allowed to perform. I sincerely hope that something like this will not happen because it would be a disaster for tennis, and Nadal's success would forever remain in the shadow of the decision that Djokovic can't play. It is truly amazing that Nadal, as a much older tennis player, has more physical strength and is more prepared in the finals than a much younger opponent. Nadal is truly a phenomenon.

Still, let's hope for the best and that Djokovic will be able to solve his problems with vaccination and still perform at Roland Garros. On the other hand, despite winning Roland Garros last year, I don't think Novak is still the main favorite of the tournament, because it's still a bit not his type of court coverage. If everything goes well with Rafa's health, that he should be the favorite of the current tournament, let's also not forget about Tsitsipas, who reached the semifinals of the Australian Open and missed a victory over Djokovic last year, leading with a two-set advantage. We will also look at Djokovic's further line of conduct and the line of conduct of the organizers of the French Open, because the Austrian authorities have made an important precedent and the French authorities will have to reckon with this precedent in any case.

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Many high ranked players are interested in montpellier ATP tournament zverev and monfils are the favourite ones to win it, goffin last year winner was not doing good this season and since last year he did not win any tournament but he did well today getting past bonzi with 2 1 score i hope he get back to his form.

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Quote from: n0ne on January 31, 2022, 03:00:13 PM

..., he doesn't care of being a participant but keen in stay away from vaccination.

He cares very much about participation, otherwise he would not go all those lengths to play in AO. It just seems his reasons for not vaccinating are even stronger that his will to participate. I just know tennis as whole is loosing if Djoković is not able to participate.

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Quote from: babygun on January 31, 2022, 12:11:53 PM

Quote from: cryptofrka on January 31, 2022, 07:49:22 AM

I feel that Covid rules will start to decrease - we have already seen it in a lot of countries. Roland Garros is played in May/June, Wimbledon in June/July - until then I expect us to walk freely, without vaccinations and/or vax certificates.

I really want Đoković there, it is Nadal's home turf and Novak needs to win it. It has the potential to be an amazing tournament - without Đoković it would be a lot less interesting.

One would think that the rules should start to decrease, at least we can only hope for it. It would be good for Roland Garros if Djokovic is present but if they still require that everybody needs to be vaccinated, than so be it. If Djokovic also misses RG, than he can only be mad at himself...

Countries keep restricting the people due to the rise of mutant variants of COVID-19. Everywhere vaccination is getting to be compulsory, even the kids were started to be vaccinated. I don't know what is the real reason behind his strong decision. Is this out of fear or anything else. Because, he doesn't care of being a participant but keen in stay away from vaccination.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 31, 2022, 07:49:22 AM

I feel that Covid rules will start to decrease - we have already seen it in a lot of countries. Roland Garros is played in May/June, Wimbledon in June/July - until then I expect us to walk freely, without vaccinations and/or vax certificates.

I really want Đoković there, it is Nadal's home turf and Novak needs to win it. It has the potential to be an amazing tournament - without Đoković it would be a lot less interesting.

One would think that the rules should start to decrease, at least we can only hope for it. It would be good for Roland Garros if Djokovic is present but if they still require that everybody needs to be vaccinated, than so be it. If Djokovic also misses RG, than he can only be mad at himself...

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Quote from: casperBGD on January 31, 2022, 03:32:40 AM

Medvedev has a chance to secure No.1 for a week or two, in Acapulco, and he is a favorite there, since it is a hard surface now
last season, as seasons before, Medvedev has no points on clay surface, best of last season SF in Monte Carlo, while Djokovic has a lot to defend, and with Nadal back in shape, Medvedev has a chance to stay No.1 until US Open

Whilst the Covid vaccine rules of various countries can affect Djokovic's chances of winning more slams and catching up with Nadal, these restrictions could also have a huge effect on whether he can maintain the #1 ranking.
It's not just that he has a lot of ranking points to defend, there is also the question of whether he will actually be able to defend them at all. Depending on how this plays out, there is a decent chance of Medvedev getting #1.

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I feel that Covid rules will start to decrease - we have already seen it in a lot of countries. Roland Garros is played in May/June, Wimbledon in June/July - until then I expect us to walk freely, without vaccinations and/or vax certificates.

I really want Đoković there, it is Nadal's home turf and Novak needs to win it. It has the potential to be an amazing tournament - without Đoković it would be a lot less interesting.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 31, 2022, 03:28:29 AM

What Nadal did yesterday was simply outstanding. It just shows how dominant the old 3 were in their prime (Federer, Nadal, Đoković) compared to anything else we have seen in tennis before and after it.

Medvedev is a great player - he's got it all. Yet - he's already 25 years old and has only one GS to his name so far.

I'm really glad Nadal has won it, the battle between him and Đoković for the top spot is still on. It will be a fantastic Rolland Garros.

It will be a fantastic Roland Garros if Djokovic is allowed to play at all because of the strict Covid rules in France Grin

Djokovic could easily have a scenario from a nightmare, Nadal wins more GS tournaments this year, especially the next GS in Paris, while he watches it at home on TV because he is not allowed to perform.
I sincerely hope that something like this will not happen because it would be a disaster for tennis, and Nadal's success would forever remain in the shadow of the decision that Djokovic can't play.
It is truly amazing that Nadal, as a much older tennis player, has more physical strength and is more prepared in the finals than a much younger opponent.
Nadal is truly a phenomenon.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 31, 2022, 02:45:03 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 09:54:11 PM

I agree with @Trofo this is a statement win for Nadal. Down 2 sets and then a miracle comeback, won his 21st GS against the second seed Medvedev who is leading the pack of the young generation.

But Djokovic and Nadal is not done yet, from from it and showing this guys how to do it right. LOL.
I'm sure a lot of us are happy with the Nadal victory because he is the underdog and a huge win for us bettors. Grin

A huge win by some bettors Grin

Not me though, I'm on the Medvedev bandwagon specially his comeback win against Felix AA and I thought this is going to be his break out win for this year.

Quote from: aoluain on January 31, 2022, 02:45:03 AM

I agree that Nadal and Djokovic are still major players in Tennis, Djokovic now has
his sights on leap-froging Nadal in the titles race, today he needs to win 2 GS's and after
RG he will potentially need 3.

There is also pressure mounting on his #1 spot from Medvedev who no doubt is
a serious contender for possibly RG and the US Open GS's.

For sure with the drama around his supposedly entry in Australian Open, Djokovic is hell bent on coming strong on the remaining GS. So it will be a good year for tennis as Nadal is back, Djokovic trying to win and tie Nadal and then Medvedev wanting to get the #1 spot.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 31, 2022, 03:06:03 AM

Quote from: aoluain on January 31, 2022, 02:45:03 AM

There is also pressure mounting on his #1 spot from Medvedev who no doubt is
a serious contender for possibly RG and the US Open GS's.

Medvedev is not really a contender for RG, clay is by far his worst surface and traditionally he skips most of the clay season and when he plays he often looses against players that would get maybe few games against him on other surfaces. For instance he lost last season to Garin and Karatsev. Season before that he played only 2 tournaments and lost in first match again against Humbet and Fucsovics.

Clay season will be the reign of Nadal, Tsitsipas and Djokovic (if he is allowed to play). I am also expecting big things from guys like Ruud and Thiem.

Ah right, I omitted Wimbledon thinking grass wasnt hus strong surface, Clay is indeed
not a surface he is comfortable on.

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 30, 2022, 11:12:13 AM

I'm really looking forward to see Djoko get in he next GS

Well... potentially more drama to come.

it would practically mean that he gives up tennis.
I really don't believe he's ^Djokovic going to throw away his great career because he does not want to be vaccinated. Wimbledon will certainly not be able to play without the vaccine there the rules are even more rigorous and clear. US open probably will do the same rule.

Well, yeah, meanwhile, we've got the Scandinavians slowly going towards regarding Covid as a non-threat to society and the UK also just easing down on everything (but noting that at least in the former case, supposedly it's because hospitalisations are very low and no longer a burden, partly in any case because of high vaccinated population in the cities).

I always tell my kids: my house my rules, so yeah, can't argue if France insists, it'd be much better for everyone if we didn't go and make this any more dramatic than it already has been. If he won't play, he won't play. Shame for us if not though.

Actually a lot can happen before RG. In my country last week all COVID restrictions
were lifted, The Omicron variant has proven to be less potent than Delta resulting
in more cases but less hospitalisations, so France could follow and lift restrictions
which would see Djokovic clear to play.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 31, 2022, 03:06:03 AM

~snip

Clay season will be the reign of Nadal, Tsitsipas and Djokovic (if he is allowed to play). I am also expecting big things from guys like Ruud and Thiem.

agree, Medvedev has a chance to secure No.1 for a week or two, in Acapulco, and he is a favorite there, since it is a hard surface now
last season, as seasons before, Medvedev has no points on clay surface, best of last season SF in Monte Carlo, while Djokovic has a lot to defend, and with Nadal back in shape, Medvedev has a chance to stay No.1 until US Open

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Quote from: examplens on January 30, 2022, 05:07:51 PM

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Quote from: buwaytress on January 30, 2022, 11:12:13 AM

I'm really looking forward to see Djoko get in he next GS

Well... potentially more drama to come.

it would practically mean that he gives up tennis.
I really don't believe he's ^Djokovic going to throw away his great career because he does not want to be vaccinated. Wimbledon will certainly not be able to play without the vaccine there the rules are even more rigorous and clear. US open probably will do the same rule.

Well, yeah, meanwhile, we've got the Scandinavians slowly going towards regarding Covid as a non-threat to society and the UK also just easing down on everything (but noting that at least in the former case, supposedly it's because hospitalisations are very low and no longer a burden, partly in any case because of high vaccinated population in the cities).

I always tell my kids: my house my rules, so yeah, can't argue if France insists, it'd be much better for everyone if we didn't go and make this any more dramatic than it already has been. If he won't play, he won't play. Shame for us if not though.

Quote from: Trofo on January 31, 2022, 03:06:03 AM

Clay season will be the reign of Nadal, Tsitsipas and Djokovic (if he is allowed to play). I am also expecting big things from guys like Ruud and Thiem.

This is precisely why I want Djokovic to play, to see these 3 guys (and I can't help but hope Tsitsi finds his break) rule. Medvedev outclassed every opponent on his serve in AO, but that's nullified with clay.

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What Nadal did yesterday was simply outstanding. It just shows how dominant the old 3 were in their prime (Federer, Nadal, Đoković) compared to anything else we have seen in tennis before and after it.

Medvedev is a great player - he's got it all. Yet - he's already 25 years old and has only one GS to his name so far.

I'm really glad Nadal has won it, the battle between him and Đoković for the top spot is still on. It will be a fantastic Rolland Garros.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 31, 2022, 02:45:03 AM

There is also pressure mounting on his #1 spot from Medvedev who no doubt is
a serious contender for possibly RG and the US Open GS's.

Medvedev is not really a contender for RG, clay is by far his worst surface and traditionally he skips most of the clay season and when he plays he often looses against players that would get maybe few games against him on other surfaces. For instance he lost last season to Garin and Karatsev. Season before that he played only 2 tournaments and lost in first match again against Humbet and Fucsovics.

Clay season will be the reign of Nadal, Tsitsipas and Djokovic (if he is allowed to play). I am also expecting big things from guys like Ruud and Thiem.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 30, 2022, 09:54:11 PM

I agree with @Trofo this is a statement win for Nadal. Down 2 sets and then a miracle comeback, won his 21st GS against the second seed Medvedev who is leading the pack of the young generation.

But Djokovic and Nadal is not done yet, from from it and showing this guys how to do it right. LOL.
I'm sure a lot of us are happy with the Nadal victory because he is the underdog and a huge win for us bettors. Grin

A huge win by some bettors Grin

I agree that Nadal and Djokovic are still major players in Tennis, Djokovic now has
his sights on leap-froging Nadal in the titles race, today he needs to win 2 GS's and after
RG he will potentially need 3.

There is also pressure mounting on his #1 spot from Medvedev who no doubt is
a serious contender for possibly RG and the US Open GS's.

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Quote from: examplens on January 30, 2022, 05:07:51 PM

it would practically mean that he gives up tennis.
I really don't believe he's ^Djokovic going to throw away his great career because he does not want to be vaccinated. Wimbledon will certainly not be able to play without the vaccine there the rules are even more rigorous and clear. US open probably will do the same rule.

I don't think there's any chance of him getting vaccinated - that has to be the least likely outcome.

It may be that he can't play at the French. Wimbledon may be okay for him though, I don't know. We are relaxing restrictions here in the UK... but certainly if he's been banned from Australia and France, there will be some pressure to prevent him coming here to the UK, too. US I don't know, probably depends on the situation at the time. And there is of course the chance that If Omicron fades away and everywhere around the world starts to drop restrictions, maybe he can even play in France... it's probably too early right now to make a definite call on any of them, it's just that as it stands at the moment, France is a no.

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I agree with @Trofo this is a statement win for Nadal. Down 2 sets and then a miracle comeback, won his 21st GS against the second seed Medvedev who is leading the pack of the young generation.

But Djokovic and Nadal is not done yet, from from it and showing this guys how to do it right. LOL.
I'm sure a lot of us are happy with the Nadal victory because he is the underdog and a huge win for us bettors. Grin

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Quote from: Ratash on January 30, 2022, 05:58:03 PM

Quote from: babygun on January 30, 2022, 05:15:06 PM

Congrats for Nadal for coming back from 2 sets down and to win his 21th grandslam! It still shows that despite the rise of the young talents that the big 3 is not done yet and can potentially dominate for some more years. There was a lot of value on Nadal to win but too bad I only placed a small bet on him.

Really impressive that nadal managed to win again at his curent age but i think the fact that he didnt play match last year due to the injury helped him a little since medvedev has been really competing almost all year long, i think with nadal new grand slam we will see more rivalry from djokovic in the roland garros tournament its gonna be fire.

Nadal generally had a fantastic tournament and won an incredibly intriguing final, despite the fact that few people expected him to get into the final of the Australian Open at all. Nadal probably did not expect such an outcome of the tournament himself, because as Nadal himself said after the match that he himself did not know a month and a half ago whether he would be able to return to the tour and play tennis. Nadal also said that a month and a half ago he would have said that it is possible that this is the last Australian open, but now he has enough energy to continue. Rafael showed his matchless character and was able to return to the match after two lost sets, which he had not been able to do since 2007. Rafa's uncle and coach Tony Nadal said on this occasion that he lost a little faith when Rafa lost the second set. Now I have no doubt that Nadal will arrange the same stubborn battle for Roland Garros. Medvedev would like to wish not to despair and continue to increase his level and new Grand Slam titles will definitely come.

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