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January 28, 2022, 03:29:48 PM
Did you see how Medvedev lost it and how he was yelling at the referee? If you haven't seen it, check out this video from Facebook.

He really doesn't need this kind of behavior but it seems that something made him really mad because he blew Tsitsipas off the court in the next 2 sets.

I will bet on him against Nadal but I will cheer Nadal to win. Nadal will be happy after seeing this today, he will use a lot of mind games in the final.

Medvedev has a point honestly. Tsitsipas always does this talks to his coach or dad or even takes big breaks so he can talk over the phone with them while in the bathroom. This is a serious problem and he should be punished because of this.
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January 28, 2022, 03:27:04 PM
Did you see how Medvedev lost it and how he was yelling at the referee? If you haven't seen it, check out this video from Facebook.

He really doesn't need this kind of behavior but it seems that something made him really mad because he blew Tsitsipas off the court in the next 2 sets.

I will bet on him against Nadal but I will cheer Nadal to win. Nadal will be happy after seeing this today, he will use a lot of mind games in the final.

OMG he was rightly annoyed and correct because Tsitsipas got a warning
for being coached later on. I dont agree with how Medvedev talked to the
chair umpire and he apologised after the match.

We have seen this before from Tsitsipas, taking his phone on his comfort break.

When Medvedev gets fired up it motivates him more it seems.
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January 28, 2022, 02:16:39 PM
Medvedev at 1.49 ML? Perhaps it will be a good bet for Nadal right now at 2.55. For sure this will be a great match but I guess they are overvaluing Medvedev here.

So I will go with Nadal ML here, even if he lose this game, I will be happy with the way they give the odds for a Nadal straight up win.
Those odds will move as the match comes closer. I will evaluate later ans see if there is some value to be found. For now I am leaning on over games. I don't believe this can end in less then 4 sets.

However, we have a women's final first and Barty should take this one easy unless some kind of extra pressure hits her. I don't expect it since she looked great so far. Very composed and with plethora of solutions in every point. My high stake bet is on Barty -3.5 and I will also take -4.5 and 2:0 in sets on other tickets.
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January 28, 2022, 11:46:36 AM
Didn't watch Nadal but I read he was well worth his victory. Scary as hell for my Tsitsi, that even if he overcomes the Russian now, he still has to find a way to not get overpowered by Nadal!
Anyway, not a bad tennis match to watch this ongoing semi... I still think Tsitsi could have made it easier for himself in the first set, but least he's won this one as easy as you can expect. Medvedev serve, what a weapon.
But the crowd, wow, I totally didn't expect them to get behind Tsitsi. I know Medvedev is a bit of a whiner but...
Shure didnt Medvedev earlier call the audience "low in IQ"
after the match with Kyrgios

https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/australian-open/australian-open-2022-daniil-medvedev-response-to-fans-after-nick-kyrgios-match-booing-show-some-respect-low-iq-news/news-story/1190d5fd9b3fa1427ea11d06a4e24c40

He is the player they love to hate.
I had Tsitsipas to win a set but Medvedev was pretty much in control judging by the score.
Potentially great final IMO now, I also have Medvedev to win !!

Great win for Medvedev as he played really well in the final parts of the game. I think, Tsitsipas also played well but Medvedev was just better than him.

Tsitsipas was able to get the 2nd set 4-6 to equalize Medvedev's first set win but after that Medvedev won 2 straight sets and the game proceeded to the finals to face Nadal. I think the finals are gonna be a nail biter but I think I will opt for Nadal.
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January 28, 2022, 09:37:33 AM
I don't think he will, Nadal isn't that sort of player. Djokovic would have, certainly, but not Nadal.

Nadal is actually a master of it - he just does it more intelligently than most. He will take years in preparation before every serve - Medvedev will probably complain 50 times.

I just looked at the odds - shame. Medvedev is portrayed as a strong favorite, not much value in choosing him to win. I will probably skip betting on this - I see nothing of interest.

Medvedev at 1.49 ML? Perhaps it will be a good bet for Nadal right now at 2.55. For sure this will be a great match but I guess they are overvaluing Medvedev here.

So I will go with Nadal ML here, even if he lose this game, I will be happy with the way they give the odds for a Nadal straight up win.
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January 28, 2022, 09:23:11 AM
I don't think he will, Nadal isn't that sort of player. Djokovic would have, certainly, but not Nadal.

Nadal is actually a master of it - he just does it more intelligently than most. He will take years in preparation before every serve - Medvedev will probably complain 50 times.

I just looked at the odds - shame. Medvedev is portrayed as a strong favorite, not much value in choosing him to win. I will probably skip betting on this - I see nothing of interest.
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January 28, 2022, 08:52:53 AM
Nadal will be happy after seeing this today, he will use a lot of mind games in the final.

I don't think he will, Nadal isn't that sort of player. Djokovic would have, certainly, but not Nadal.



His anger makes him play better, so don't make him angry  Smiley

I definitely agree with this. Medvedev does complain sometimes, and he does seem to get agitated mentally, but his play remains quite separate, it doesn't affect his play unless to make him better. It may be a stereotype, but it's true that despite the anger, or beneath it, he has some of that Russian coolness under pressure, he remains a remorseless winning-machine.
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January 28, 2022, 08:09:22 AM
Didn't watch Nadal but I read he was well worth his victory. Scary as hell for my Tsitsi, that even if he overcomes the Russian now, he still has to find a way to not get overpowered by Nadal!

Anyway, not a bad tennis match to watch this ongoing semi... I still think Tsitsi could have made it easier for himself in the first set, but least he's won this one as easy as you can expect. Medvedev serve, what a weapon.

But the crowd, wow, I totally didn't expect them to get behind Tsitsi. I know Medvedev is a bit of a whiner but...

Shure didnt Medvedev earlier call the audience "low in IQ"
after the match with Kyrgios

https://www.foxsports.com.au/tennis/australian-open/australian-open-2022-daniil-medvedev-response-to-fans-after-nick-kyrgios-match-booing-show-some-respect-low-iq-news/news-story/1190d5fd9b3fa1427ea11d06a4e24c40

He is the player they love to hate.
I had Tsitsipas to win a set but Medvedev was pretty much in control judging by the score.

Potentially great final IMO now, I also have Medvedev to win !!
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January 28, 2022, 07:25:48 AM
No odds yet for Nadal vs Medvedev, but I'm thinking that Nadal will be the slight favorite when the betting lines is open. This is going to be a tough match, but I'm seeing Nadal might win this year in a 5 set marathon match.
Nadal will be the favourite is common things specially in the crowd will be very on his side but I believe this will not affect Medvedev at all can be seen in the previous 2 matches, maybe in this final there will be a new record but I don't think Medvedev will let that happen easily. If the betting are already open will choose Medvedev as the champion this time.

Did you see how Medvedev lost it and how he was yelling at the referee? If you haven't seen it, check out this video from Facebook.

He really doesn't need this kind of behavior but it seems that something made him really mad because he blew Tsitsipas off the court in the next 2 sets.
His anger makes him play better, so don't make him angry  Smiley
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January 28, 2022, 07:09:30 AM
Did you see how Medvedev lost it and how he was yelling at the referee? If you haven't seen it, check out this video from Facebook.

He really doesn't need this kind of behavior but it seems that something made him really mad because he blew Tsitsipas off the court in the next 2 sets.

I will bet on him against Nadal but I will cheer Nadal to win. Nadal will be happy after seeing this today, he will use a lot of mind games in the final.
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January 28, 2022, 06:36:41 AM
Let's first see who he'll play against, personally he would be a favorite against Tsitsipas but not against Medvedev.
Should be a good match coming up, I expect a big battle and at least 4 sets. I went with less greedy Tsitsipas to take set bet after I lost my over bet on Nadal. I blame Berrettini for that one, he should have gotten to tie break in at least one set. Tsitsipas really grew trough the tournament and if he continues like that I expect him to even win. But we all know how it finished last year, 3:0 for Medvedev so hopefully revenge time.

I think as others have expected including myself, it will be Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals. Medvedev is leading the 4th set, 4-1, and won sets 1 and 3. And for sure he will want to close out Tsitsipas in this set so that he won't give him a chance. Otherwise a 5th and deciding set will be needed and it will just extend Medvedev again. So there is no revenge for Tsitsipas unfortunately.
Yep, Medvedev just blow Tsitsipas in the 4th set, it was quick and swift, 6-1 score.

So there we have it, Nadal vs Medvedev now, and then we have Barty vs Collins in the women's side.
No odds yet for Nadal vs Medvedev, but I'm thinking that Nadal will be the slight favorite when the betting lines is open. This is going to be a tough match, but I'm seeing Nadal might win this year in a 5 set marathon match.
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January 28, 2022, 06:17:10 AM
Let's first see who he'll play against, personally he would be a favorite against Tsitsipas but not against Medvedev.
Should be a good match coming up, I expect a big battle and at least 4 sets. I went with less greedy Tsitsipas to take set bet after I lost my over bet on Nadal. I blame Berrettini for that one, he should have gotten to tie break in at least one set. Tsitsipas really grew trough the tournament and if he continues like that I expect him to even win. But we all know how it finished last year, 3:0 for Medvedev so hopefully revenge time.

I think as others have expected including myself, it will be Nadal vs Medvedev in the finals. Medvedev is leading the 4th set, 4-1, and won sets 1 and 3. And for sure he will want to close out Tsitsipas in this set so that he won't give him a chance. Otherwise a 5th and deciding set will be needed and it will just extend Medvedev again. So there is no revenge for Tsitsipas unfortunately.
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January 28, 2022, 05:16:35 AM
Didn't watch Nadal but I read he was well worth his victory. Scary as hell for my Tsitsi, that even if he overcomes the Russian now, he still has to find a way to not get overpowered by Nadal!

Anyway, not a bad tennis match to watch this ongoing semi... I still think Tsitsi could have made it easier for himself in the first set, but least he's won this one as easy as you can expect. Medvedev serve, what a weapon.

But the crowd, wow, I totally didn't expect them to get behind Tsitsi. I know Medvedev is a bit of a whiner but...
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January 28, 2022, 05:13:38 AM
As expected - another final for Nadal. He really did have an easy path though, Berrettini in the semifinal is something you'd always take if offered.

Still - I really like how he modifies his game. This year he has been serving really aggresively and it has helped him put more pressure on his opponents. Paradoxally though - if he does that against Medvedev I feel it will cost him the match.

Let's first see who he'll play against, personally he would be a favorite against Tsitsipas but not against Medvedev.

In fact, it can be said that the only big surprise in the men's part of the tournament was the premature defeat of ZVerev in the tournament.
Everything else was as expected.
I agree that Medvedev would be a tougher opponent for Nadal in the final.
Nadal has been injured for a long time and has not played and I am surprised how well he plays in this tournament, after such a long break.
Given the Covid rules and what happened to Djokovic, it seems that Nadal could take the opportunity to overtake Djokovic in the number of GS titles won.
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January 28, 2022, 03:34:45 AM
Let's first see who he'll play against, personally he would be a favorite against Tsitsipas but not against Medvedev.
Should be a good match coming up, I expect a big battle and at least 4 sets. I went with less greedy Tsitsipas to take set bet after I lost my over bet on Nadal. I blame Berrettini for that one, he should have gotten to tie break in at least one set. Tsitsipas really grew trough the tournament and if he continues like that I expect him to even win. But we all know how it finished last year, 3:0 for Medvedev so hopefully revenge time.
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January 28, 2022, 03:10:58 AM
As expected - another final for Nadal. He really did have an easy path though, Berrettini in the semifinal is something you'd always take if offered.

Still - I really like how he modifies his game. This year he has been serving really aggresively and it has helped him put more pressure on his opponents. Paradoxally though - if he does that against Medvedev I feel it will cost him the match.

Let's first see who he'll play against, personally he would be a favorite against Tsitsipas but not against Medvedev.
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January 28, 2022, 02:15:41 AM
I am not convinced, I still think he is bad in mental aspect. He has awful body language and bitches about all kind of details when results are not favoring him. That is part that irritates me most, he complained about everything yesterday to the ref "somebody took a picture", "somebody sneezed before my serve", "they are too loud"....

My thesis is that he has improved his game so much that his mental aspect does not get tested in 99% of matches. That is why I am waiting for his match against Djokovic or maybe even this back in form Nadal will be enough to show me the real state of things.

Đoković was the one that fell apart mentally in the US open final. He lost the game in the first set - it was really weird considering how strong he usually is mentally.

I agree with you regarding Medvedev though. As I said in my 1st post - he is mentally weak. I just think that wins like these help - he will need his head in the game in an expected final against Nadal.

Well it is closer now to finding out how Medvedev will cope against one of the
"Top 3". Nadal came through in 4 sets against Berrettini in what looks like easy enough
terms, just dropping 1 set.

Medvedev is by far my favourite player ATM but I agree with you all, he has changed
his game over the last year or so where he seems to have controlled his emotions a lot
but I do get that he does seem at difficult times to be on the verge of losing that control.

If he gets to the final no doubt the crowd will be with Nadal so there will be immense
pressure there.

For Nadal, the goal is so real now and the chance to go to "21" is so close. This is something
I commented on last week, with Djokovic out of the AO the reward of that 21st GS is an
bigger target for him, and look ... he is in the final!

Women's semifinals today:
Barty vs Keys and Collins vs Swiatek, I picked overs on these two matches.

My pics for the semis are Barty and Collins.

If Keys wins over Barty, then my money's on Keys as I feel she can best Collins as well as Swiatek who I feel will be out this round.
You're correct, who went to the final is Barty vs Collins, for these two matches it was very unattractive Keys and Swiatek did not showing an impressive thing and honestly a little disappointed not because lose the bet but their performance did not display the thing like a semi-final match.
For final Barty is favorites and I betting on her in ML.

I was a bit surprised with the Collins v Swiatek match, I had a bet on Swiatek to
win 1 set, I knew she was struggling with performance but I really thought she would
take at least a set from Collins.

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January 28, 2022, 01:24:34 AM
Women's semifinals today:
Barty vs Keys and Collins vs Swiatek, I picked overs on these two matches.

My pics for the semis are Barty and Collins.

If Keys wins over Barty, then my money's on Keys as I feel she can best Collins as well as Swiatek who I feel will be out this round.
You're correct, who went to the final is Barty vs Collins, for these two matches it was very unattractive Keys and Swiatek did not showing an impressive thing and honestly a little disappointed not because lose the bet but their performance did not display the thing like a semi-final match.
For final Barty is favorites and I betting on her in ML.
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January 27, 2022, 11:31:09 PM
Ok let's look at the odds:

Nadal - ML 1.48 handicap -3.5, 1.89

I think it's better to bet for the handicap here, -3.5 can easily be covered by Nadal against Berrettini. And since Djokovic is not campaigning, most likely this could be Nadal's year to get this grand slam.

Nadal has won the first set already 6-3 and he seems to be in the zone right now, probably this game will last 3-4 sets I mean Berrettini can make a come back, but we all know that Nadal has that mentally as well to overcome those obstacles. So we will see, but I'm seeing him the first man to go into this years Australian Open final.
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January 27, 2022, 01:54:38 PM
Đoković was the one that fell apart mentally in the US open final. He lost the game in the first set - it was really weird considering how strong he usually is mentally.
I was really surprised about that as well. It was just too much pressure even for him. If he won he would have golden slam plus most grand slam titles ever all in single match. I can't even imagine those levels of pressure and expectations and I guess it surprised even Djokovic.
I have to say that, that loss came as quite a shock to almost every tennis fan but upsets like these happen from time to time and maybe this is the thrill that keeps the hype alive.


When you see players struggling to close out the winning match so often it sometimes looks ridiculous for us viewers but so many have those pressure problems so they are obviously real enough Smiley That is why Djokovic and Nadal are so good, they are mentally the strongest players on the tour and that gives consistency. If some of this newer guys like Medvedev, Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem... had that mental resilience and fighting spirit they would be topping the chart very soon.
Another thing is that, yes Djokovic is one of the strongest players mentally, but after all, he is also a human being, and breakdowns like these can happen for various reasons. I'm not saying that this happens often, but even with the strong mentality Djokovic or players like Nadal have, losing your mind is okay sometimes and I think it helps one develop as a player and a human being.

Yes well we have commented before that Tennis is as much about the mental state
and strength as it is about hitting the ball.

What I want to say is that without Djokovic we have had plenty of entertainment from
many players, personally I didnt miss him, and without the top players or some or 1 of
them it gives others a chance to gain more experiences and points.
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