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Quote from: Daniel91 on January 30, 2022, 07:49:40 AM

Is Nadal's great return to this match imminent?
He seems to be pretty close to taking this match to the fifth set and then the psychological advantage would definitely be on his side.
I mentioned earlier that I think that Nadal is a much more experienced tennis player than Medvedev, he has played a lot more matches like this and he copes better with the pressure.
If the match goes to the fifth set, I think Nadal is the favorite to win.
Great match.

Well here we go, 1 set decider.

I fear a bit for my bet on Medvedev to win, he was looking a bit de-energised or
less energised than Nadal at the end of the fourth.

Nadal has a real chance to take this title, as said experience at playing
5set finals will stand to him.

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Is Nadal's great return to this match imminent?
He seems to be pretty close to taking this match to the fifth set and then the psychological advantage would definitely be on his side.
I mentioned earlier that I think that Nadal is a much more experienced tennis player than Medvedev, he has played a lot more matches like this and he copes better with the pressure.
If the match goes to the fifth set, I think Nadal is the favorite to win.
Great match.

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Quote from: aoluain on January 30, 2022, 06:36:25 AM

Oops wrong calls on the double from me !
good third set win by Rafa.
Medvedev annoyed again with the crowd and ball kids.

Now the fun starts, I want too see Medvedev loose it a bit so we can properly test his mental resilience.

I was afraid for my bets when Nadal lost second set after being in front couple of times but this one should be enough for all my bets to pass. Now I can enyoy the match without added stress

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wow that was some second set, 2 breaks for each player. Medvedev had a fantastic
first set but his service game fell off in the second set. I cashed out my bet on Nadal
to win a set when Medvedev broke back for the first time.

Nadal's service game is in the 50's for 1st serve and too many unforced errors into
the net are not helping him.

Fantastic match so far though, some super shots played.
IMO this wont go past three sets.

:::EDIT:::

Oops wrong calls on the double from me !
good third set win by Rafa.
Medvedev annoyed again with the crowd and ball kids.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on January 30, 2022, 06:29:18 AM

Quote from: Koal-84 on January 30, 2022, 05:31:43 AM

Medvedev's last break was long and impressive how many break balls Nadal fended off, I'm curious if Nadal can still win the set. If Nadal loses the set, I think Medvedev will win the tournament, Nadal's backhand is not very good today and Nadal's first serves are weak.

At the moment it really looks like that everything is going into Medvedevs direction. He seems extremely fit and now, after he has won the second set also after a very close tiebreak he also has the psychological advantage clearly on his side at the moment. Even now in the third set Medvedev seems to have not much problems at all to win his serve games, while Nadal seems to be under pressure in almost all of his serve games. I think that it is 99% sure now that Medvedev will win the Australian Open this year because i don't think Nadal has the fitness yet to show his absolute top performance level over 5 sets and he would need to do that today to have a chance.

I also think that the momentum and advantages lie with Medvedev, Nadal also has problems with his serve, should Medvedev now manage the break, I assume that Medvedev will win the match in 3 sets, but also with Nadal a lot is still possible, even if it is rather unlikely.

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Quote from: Koal-84 on January 30, 2022, 05:31:43 AM

Medvedev's last break was long and impressive how many break balls Nadal fended off, I'm curious if Nadal can still win the set. If Nadal loses the set, I think Medvedev will win the tournament, Nadal's backhand is not very good today and Nadal's first serves are weak.

At the moment it really looks like that everything is going into Medvedevs direction. He seems extremely fit and now, after he has won the second set also after a very close tiebreak he also has the psychological advantage clearly on his side at the moment. Even now in the third set Medvedev seems to have not much problems at all to win his serve games, while Nadal seems to be under pressure in almost all of his serve games. I think that it is 99% sure now that Medvedev will win the Australian Open this year because i don't think Nadal has the fitness yet to show his absolute top performance level over 5 sets and he would need to do that today to have a chance.

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Medvedev's last break was long and impressive how many break balls Nadal fended off, I'm curious if Nadal can still win the set. If Nadal loses the set, I think Medvedev will win the tournament, Nadal's backhand is not very good today and Nadal's first serves are weak.

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Once Special Ks and Barty took their seats, I thought it was only natural Nadal would join them but after losing the first set, and properly too, I guess we should be preparing for the Russian to take a bow at the end, huh. Still hoping the crowd spurs Rafa on. But Medvedev probably realises this right now that shutting up and talking less makes him a better player Wink

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Quote from: cryptofrka on January 30, 2022, 04:23:35 AM

Not a good start from Nadal, Medvedev dominating early on in the 1st set. He is really agressive on Nadal's serve, and is pushing Nadal far behind the baseline.

From what I've seen in the first few games, it might be a quick and dominant win. Then again, Nadal has turned things around a million times before.

I am for Rafa here, hope he finds a way.

He lost he first set already, 6-2, but had the lead in the second set 4-2 with him serving.

So hopefully he can get back in the second set and tie the game and at least force a 5th and decider set.

It's now a battle of momentum, Rafa has find his groove already and now dictating the tempo. So let's see here, again, I wanted a 5th game so that we will enjoy the match.

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^Rafa is definitely the popular one out here and hopefully that cheering will help him buckle up to make a match of it. It looks a bit better in 2nd set since he added a bit of strength and spin on the forehand but Medvedev is still the better player. It is best of five so a lot of time for momentum to change and if it does, Rafa will capitalize.

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Not a good start from Nadal, Medvedev dominating early on in the 1st set. He is really agressive on Nadal's serve, and is pushing Nadal far behind the baseline.

From what I've seen in the first few games, it might be a quick and dominant win. Then again, Nadal has turned things around a million times before.

I am for Rafa here, hope he finds a way.

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I think the popular opinion here is for Rafa to take the title!

I personally think the opposite and have bets on Medvedev to win @ 1.40
and Rafa to win at least 1 set @ 1.31

The players have just appeared and Medvedev did not get a positive response
from the crowd so it seems Rafa is the popular one.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on January 29, 2022, 07:51:03 AM

Quote from: Emitdama on January 29, 2022, 06:03:46 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on January 28, 2022, 09:37:33 AM

Medvedev at 1.49 ML? Perhaps it will be a good bet for Nadal right now at 2.55. For sure this will be a great match but I guess they are overvaluing Medvedev here.

So I will go with Nadal ML here, even if he lose this game, I will be happy with the way they give the odds for a Nadal straight up win.

I just check now odds are going for Nadal @2.7 and for Medvedev @1.45 which is good as I also love to have some money on Nadal he is a monster and can change things very quickly in his own favour Medvedev is also in good form but still it's anybody game both have ability to go through for 5 set final and here I am feeling going with +3 @1.90 for Nadal is also good option. If Nadal play with calm, then surely he can win another Grand Slam.

For Ladies there is no competition as Barty is going to win this without any big trouble, she is ruthless and unstoppable for any player after few top ranked ladies already out of this competition.

I am also surprised, that Medvedev seems to be that big of a favorite for the bookmakers in this final i mean in the end he is facing Nadal, which is definitely one of the 5 greatest tennis players of all time. I think an important factor for that is his match against shapovalov where it was definitely obvious that he was completely done in the 4th and 5th set physically and only won because shapovalov somehow made so many unforced errors in the 5th set and basically gave Nadal a free win there. If Nadal has a good start into the match and wins the first and maybe even the second set then i think he has a great chance to win it. If medvedev wins the first set then i don't think that Nadal can come back.

And maybe in the strength of Medvedev's comeback win against Felix AA, two sets down and then won the last three. And then he faces another tough one in Tsitsipas and beat he convincingly. Maybe those are the factors that the book makers did see to favor Medvedev.

But I might be against the popular opinion here, as I will bet on Nadal. Both have very high mental toughness but the experience, I will give it to Rafa.

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Quote from: boltz on January 29, 2022, 06:01:20 AM

Well , I do hope Medvedev beats Nadal that will make him retire from tennis as it's already time for the new generation to kick in. I also truly believe that Nadal have no chance against Medvedev who is in his prime game on AO and Nadal became an interview guy or someone who seeks attention way more than he deserves outside Tennis. Yea , he might be focus and stuff but he's neat near the form of Medvedev or at least this is how I'm seeing things right now...but the final can prove me wrong.

Why would Nadal retire even if he looses this final? Nadal in top form is still unbeatable at Roland Garros... I don't like the attitude of Medvedev so I hope Nadal can win.
Congrats to Barty and also Kokkinakis & Kyrgios for winning the title. They call themself special K and gave the audience in every match a spectacle in different ways lol.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 29, 2022, 07:32:35 AM

Quote from: Jating on January 29, 2022, 06:10:36 AM

It's Barty, a dominant 2 set win against Collins, the first set was easy, but she has to be extended and win in a tie-break.

That second set should have gone to Collins side, she had 5:1 and Barty was moving uncharacteristically bad. Then she found the strength and turned it around. Australians must be happy with winner in women's part of the tournament and with all Australian final in men's double. Pure celebration Saturday, and then men's final to clear the hangover.

Barty has shown why she is the better player between the two. Experience does come in handy as she was quite resilient in the 2nd quarter and came back strong and won the match eventually.
Seems like the Australian Open is actually gonna be a happy tournament for the Australians.

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Quote from: Trofo on January 29, 2022, 07:32:35 AM

Quote from: Jating on January 29, 2022, 06:10:36 AM

It's Barty, a dominant 2 set win against Collins, the first set was easy, but she has to be extended and win in a tie-break.

That second set should have gone to Collins side, she had 5:1 and Barty was moving uncharacteristically bad. Then she found the strength and turned it around. Australians must be happy with winner in women's part of the tournament and with all Australian final in men's double. Pure celebration Saturday, and then men's final to clear the hangover.

Collins dropped an impossible second set lead. This cannot happen at such a stage of the tournament and the biggest final. Losing the set after 5-1 is just insane. Barty is so dominant in women tennis that she plays whenever she want and o most everytime wins the tournament without much effort. Australians i think cannot be more happy with this win.

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Quote from: Emitdama on January 29, 2022, 06:03:46 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on January 28, 2022, 09:37:33 AM

Medvedev at 1.49 ML? Perhaps it will be a good bet for Nadal right now at 2.55. For sure this will be a great match but I guess they are overvaluing Medvedev here.

So I will go with Nadal ML here, even if he lose this game, I will be happy with the way they give the odds for a Nadal straight up win.

I just check now odds are going for Nadal @2.7 and for Medvedev @1.45 which is good as I also love to have some money on Nadal he is a monster and can change things very quickly in his own favour Medvedev is also in good form but still it's anybody game both have ability to go through for 5 set final and here I am feeling going with +3 @1.90 for Nadal is also good option. If Nadal play with calm, then surely he can win another Grand Slam.

For Ladies there is no competition as Barty is going to win this without any big trouble, she is ruthless and unstoppable for any player after few top ranked ladies already out of this competition.

I am also surprised, that Medvedev seems to be that big of a favorite for the bookmakers in this final i mean in the end he is facing Nadal, which is definitely one of the 5 greatest tennis players of all time. I think an important factor for that is his match against shapovalov where it was definitely obvious that he was completely done in the 4th and 5th set physically and only won because shapovalov somehow made so many unforced errors in the 5th set and basically gave Nadal a free win there. If Nadal has a good start into the match and wins the first and maybe even the second set then i think he has a great chance to win it. If medvedev wins the first set then i don't think that Nadal can come back.

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Quote from: Jating on January 29, 2022, 06:10:36 AM

It's Barty, a dominant 2 set win against Collins, the first set was easy, but she has to be extended and win in a tie-break.

That second set should have gone to Collins side, she had 5:1 and Barty was moving uncharacteristically bad. Then she found the strength and turned it around. Australians must be happy with winner in women's part of the tournament and with all Australian final in men's double. Pure celebration Saturday, and then men's final to clear the hangover.

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Quote from: Emitdama on January 29, 2022, 06:03:46 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on January 28, 2022, 09:37:33 AM

Medvedev at 1.49 ML? Perhaps it will be a good bet for Nadal right now at 2.55. For sure this will be a great match but I guess they are overvaluing Medvedev here.

So I will go with Nadal ML here, even if he lose this game, I will be happy with the way they give the odds for a Nadal straight up win.

I just check now odds are going for Nadal @2.7 and for Medvedev @1.45 which is good as I also love to have some money on Nadal he is a monster and can change things very quickly in his own favour Medvedev is also in good form but still it's anybody game both have ability to go through for 5 set final and here I am feeling going with +3 @1.90 for Nadal is also good option. If Nadal play with calm, then surely he can win another Grand Slam.

Yes, I will also go with the underdog here. Nadal is really playing solid and it doesn't matter if it is Medvedev or anyone that he is facing in the finals in a grand slam. For sure he will give everything in this match and prove that he can stay and play with the new generation.

Quote from: Emitdama on January 29, 2022, 06:03:46 AM

For Ladies there is no competition as Barty is going to win this without any big trouble, she is ruthless and unstoppable for any player after few top ranked ladies already out of this competition.

It's Barty, a dominant 2 set win against Collins, the first set was easy, but she has to be extended and win in a tie-break.

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Quote from: TravelMug on January 28, 2022, 09:37:33 AM

Medvedev at 1.49 ML? Perhaps it will be a good bet for Nadal right now at 2.55. For sure this will be a great match but I guess they are overvaluing Medvedev here.

So I will go with Nadal ML here, even if he lose this game, I will be happy with the way they give the odds for a Nadal straight up win.

I just check now odds are going for Nadal @2.7 and for Medvedev @1.45 which is good as I also love to have some money on Nadal he is a monster and can change things very quickly in his own favour Medvedev is also in good form but still it's anybody game both have ability to go through for 5 set final and here I am feeling going with +3 @1.90 for Nadal is also good option. If Nadal play with calm, then surely he can win another Grand Slam.

For Ladies there is no competition as Barty is going to win this without any big trouble, she is ruthless and unstoppable for any player after few top ranked ladies already out of this competition.

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