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Quote from: mv1986 on October 21, 2021, 09:39:51 AM

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Quote from: Jating on October 20, 2021, 06:34:24 AM

Murray vs Schwartzman, weird it's Murray that is now the odds favourite to win @1.82 ML vs Diego's @1.95.

I'd have Schwartzmann as favourite. Murray has more talent and ability, but his injuries mean he's not the player he was, and he can't sustain top-level performance for the duration of a tournament. His first round match was long and draining (3h45m), so I would pick Schwartzmann to win this one. But then my record in tennis betting is awful. Cheesy

Seriously, I have no idea why they would put Murray as a favorite. He does still have his moments, but as you said his health is going to hold him back again and again as he can't have the same trust in his body that he used to have. It is not even something like a home game for Murray.
Especially if it is going to be a three sets game I would most likely bet on Schwartzmann. I wish for Murray to be able to perform at his best though. Always good to see people trying to fight their way back.

Yeah. I think I would probably just steer away from betting either way on a Murray match at the moment. Certainly Schwartzmann should be favourite, but Murray is the more talented player, and if he somehow has recovered and brings his best game and is able to hold it together, then he will win... so whilst Schwartzmann should win, there's just no guarantee at all, because there are such huge question marks over Murray. I think there are easier matches to bet on.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on October 20, 2021, 07:19:52 AM

Quote from: Jating on October 20, 2021, 06:34:24 AM

Murray vs Schwartzman, weird it's Murray that is now the odds favourite to win @1.82 ML vs Diego's @1.95.

I'd have Schwartzmann as favourite. Murray has more talent and ability, but his injuries mean he's not the player he was, and he can't sustain top-level performance for the duration of a tournament. His first round match was long and draining (3h45m), so I would pick Schwartzmann to win this one. But then my record in tennis betting is awful. Cheesy

Seriously, I have no idea why they would put Murray as a favorite. He does still have his moments, but as you said his health is going to hold him back again and again as he can't have the same trust in his body that he used to have. It is not even something like a home game for Murray.
Especially if it is going to be a three sets game I would most likely bet on Schwartzmann. I wish for Murray to be able to perform at his best though. Always good to see people trying to fight their way back.

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I also don't think he will be able to go close to Berrettini but we can surely consider that Nadal might be out of it. He can surely overtake Hurkacz if not Ruud. . Anyone other than Nadal pulling out doesn't seem that much likely to happen but I'm optimistic that he will be able to catch both Hurkacz and Ruud as he's been playing very good lately.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 21, 2021, 02:31:58 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 18, 2021, 05:55:29 AM

Maybe Norrie can make it to ATP Finals for this year?

Maybe if he can get more points it will be very possible to atp finals, before november.

Norrie is currently 10th in the race. If we assume (and I think we can) that Nadal will not take part, then that puts Norrie in 9th.

6. Berrettini 4,000
7. Ruud 3,015
~~8. Nadal 2,985~~
9. Hurkacz 2,955
10. Norrie 2,795

He won't catch Berrettini. So if Nadal isn't competing, he just needs to overtake either Hurkacz (160 points above) or Ruud (220 points above).
Given how consistent Norrie has been this season, it's certainly possible. Alternatively if someone else above him (as well as Nadal) pulls out, then he's made it so long as he maintains his current position.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 21, 2021, 02:31:58 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 18, 2021, 05:55:29 AM

Maybe Norrie can make it to ATP Finals for this year?

Maybe if he can get more points it will be very possible to atp finals, before november.

Waiting for Sakkari vs Kalinskaya match because the result will determine my multibet, Sakkari to win.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 20, 2021, 08:59:30 PM

I will bet for Murray to win ML.

Do the same for you, only placing a few satoshis at 1.74 odds for Murray

Sakkari is 1.23 betting favourite, chances are she is going to win her match, but let's wait.

I'm picking Mackenzie McDonald against Giles Simon in the Moscow match, I think he can cover -4.5 at 1.94. It's going to be close by Mackenzie has been playing very good tennis lately, so hopefully he can continue his run in the ATP Moscow.

I'm still torn on betting for Murray, maybe just a few sats as well to enjoy the match.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 18, 2021, 05:55:29 AM

Maybe Norrie can make it to ATP Finals for this year?

Maybe if he can get more points it will be very possible to atp finals, before november.

Waiting for Sakkari vs Kalinskaya match because the result will determine my multibet, Sakkari to win.

Quote from: Kemarit on October 20, 2021, 08:59:30 PM

I will bet for Murray to win ML.

Do the same for you, only placing a few satoshis at 1.74 odds for Murray

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Quote from: Cnut237 on October 20, 2021, 07:19:52 AM

Quote from: Jating on October 20, 2021, 06:34:24 AM

Murray vs Schwartzman, weird it's Murray that is now the odds favourite to win @1.82 ML vs Diego's @1.95.

I'd have Schwartzmann as favourite. Murray has more talent and ability, but his injuries mean he's not the player he was, and he can't sustain top-level performance for the duration of a tournament. His first round match was long and draining (3h45m), so I would pick Schwartzmann to win this one. But then my record in tennis betting is awful. Cheesy

I'm looking at how Murray become the favourite against the #2 seed in Schwartzman.

I was because of the strength of his win against Tiafoe, it was a marathon match three hours and 45. Which means every set is like 1 hour or more to finished.

So let's see if the match has sap Murray's energy on he still has some in his tank against Schwartzman. So with that said, I will bet for Murray to win ML.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on October 20, 2021, 07:19:52 AM

Quote from: Jating on October 20, 2021, 06:34:24 AM

Murray vs Schwartzman, weird it's Murray that is now the odds favourite to win @1.82 ML vs Diego's @1.95.

I'd have Schwartzmann as favourite. Murray has more talent and ability, but his injuries mean he's not the player he was, and he can't sustain top-level performance for the duration of a tournament. His first round match was long and draining (3h45m), so I would pick Schwartzmann to win this one. But then my record in tennis betting is awful. Cheesy

Yea I have a small bet on Swartzman at 2.0 to win, he isnt favourite but I think that
last match against Tiafoe was brutal on his body. So 0.01mbtc @ 2.0.

My record in betting on Tennis goes from excellent pics to disastorous.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 20, 2021, 10:16:10 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 18, 2021, 10:16:14 PM

Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova @ 1.25 Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Aryna Sabalenka @ 1.23 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Elena Rybakina @ 1.85 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.09 mBTC
Anastasia Potapova @ 3.78 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.19 mBTC
Ons Jabeur @ 1.31 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC - CANCELLED

Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 19, 2021, 10:13:56 AM

A. Kalinskaya/A. Potapova @ 1.65 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.08 mBTC

Quote from: btc_angela on October 19, 2021, 10:40:03 AM

@Timelord2067's bets look solid, thanks for sharing maybe I just have to pick up one bet though.

Thanks for your good wishes, hopefully you did well.

I meant to post these bets earlier Simona Halep won against Anastasia Potapova:

Simona Halep @ 1.35 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC
A. Kalinskaya/A. Potapova @ 2.01 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.10 mBTC - CANCELLED

I'm nnot certain - was the Bernarda Pera - Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova match delayed?

That game must have been cancelled, its being played now with Pavlyuchenkova
taking the match 6-2, 7-5.

That was a poty about Potapova losing to Halep, it was a good gamble because
Halep has had a mixed season really.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 18, 2021, 10:16:14 PM

Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova @ 1.25 Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Aryna Sabalenka @ 1.23 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Elena Rybakina @ 1.85 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.09 mBTC
Anastasia Potapova @ 3.78 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.19 mBTC
Ons Jabeur @ 1.31 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC - CANCELLED

Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 19, 2021, 10:13:56 AM

A. Kalinskaya/A. Potapova @ 1.65 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.08 mBTC

Quote from: btc_angela on October 19, 2021, 10:40:03 AM

@Timelord2067's bets look solid, thanks for sharing maybe I just have to pick up one bet though.

Thanks for your good wishes, hopefully you did well.

I meant to post these bets earlier Simona Halep won against Anastasia Potapova:

Simona Halep @ 1.35 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC
A. Kalinskaya/A. Potapova @ 2.01 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.10 mBTC - CANCELLED

I'm nnot certain - was the Bernarda Pera - Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova match delayed?

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Quote from: Jating on October 20, 2021, 06:34:24 AM

Murray vs Schwartzman, weird it's Murray that is now the odds favourite to win @1.82 ML vs Diego's @1.95.

I'd have Schwartzmann as favourite. Murray has more talent and ability, but his injuries mean he's not the player he was, and he can't sustain top-level performance for the duration of a tournament. His first round match was long and draining (3h45m), so I would pick Schwartzmann to win this one. But then my record in tennis betting is awful. Cheesy

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 19, 2021, 10:13:56 AM

Quote from: aoluain on October 19, 2021, 07:04:44 AM

I have only briefly looked into the Moscow tournament and decided to go with 1 bet in Antwerp, Harris to beat Bergs. I only have a small amount of Satoshis to play with without loading my account....again.

Those look like good bets Timelord!

One of my pics has been cancelled ( Ekaterina Alexandrova Vs Ons Jabeur ) while another matchup is underway at the moment. ( Anastasia Potapova Vs Simona Halep (and it's not looking good for Anastasia Potapova )). I don't know why, but I thought all five of those matches would have been played already, however, three won't be played for many hours yet.

In the meantime...

A. Kalinskaya/A. Potapova @ 1.65 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.08 mBTC

Which is due to start any minute now. Grin

How's the result though? sorry I haven't check the score as of late as I'm into other sports betting.

There's also the Antwerp Belgium mens single? anyone betting? lots of familiar name as well and some of our favourites are in this tournament.

Murray vs Schwartzman, weird it's Murray that is now the odds favourite to win @1.82 ML vs Diego's @1.95.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 19, 2021, 10:36:59 AM

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 19, 2021, 04:53:48 AM

Yes, the same thing is happening in men's tennis that we have been watching in the last few years in women's tennis, each tournament has a different winner.
Given the years of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, their injuries and fatigue, it was expected that the time of their great domination would come to an end.
I think Nadal still has a chance to win the GS in Paris if he will be healthy and ready, and Djokovic could still win a few GS if he will be healthy and mentally ready.
Other young tennis players are still relatively young and need more experience and psychological stability to surpass the old champions and it is really unlikely that anyone will ever surpass the big three.

I totally agree with you’ll the trio dominance looks very difficult to be matched with, and it’ll make wagering on tournaments even more riskier than it currently is.
Also I’m hoping sooner or later someone steps up when these 3 finally step down, because there’s so much potential in these young player’s, but for some reason they fail when it matters the most.

Lots of potential young players we have in the circuit that match the big 3 or big 4 dominance in the coming years.
The only thing lacking with this young players are the mentally. Djokovic, Federer and Nadal are very different when they started. It seems that they really wanted to proved something and the motivation of their young version is very different from the young version of young players.
Yeah, hopefully when they steps down, we can see another breed of big 3 that will dominate in the next 10-15 years.

Zverev, Medvedev, and maybe 2 or 1 more players seem like a successor for the current big 3 but as you said, they somewhat lack the mentality to show the world and try to be the best. I don't know they are still young and things might change after this big 3 era finally ends - which might happen in the next 2 or highest 3 years. But one thing I like is the variety of players winning the tournaments. This is a sign that more players are wanting to get better. For example, a 26 ranked player won the recent Indian Wells.

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@aoluain - I forgot about Zverev, but I still have doubts about Sinner, he seems to always fall short. Just like those other players you mentioned, if they started to win consistently and then winning a grand slam then maybe they can become a great players too like the Big 3.

@Timelord2067's bets look solid, thanks for sharing maybe I just have to pick up one bet though.

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this tournament also showed us that there is no "new big three", all these players that are trying to replace big trio, are far lower quality, and we will have probably four different winners on four grand slams in a year, as soon as Novak retires

Definitely, it's the end of an era (or getting towards it). Those three are all-time greats, and it was bizarre to have them all playing at the same time. We've been waiting for years for the next big player to step up, but understandably no-one has been able to match these three so far. But at least it will be interesting having diferent winners all the time, with no-one really dominant.

Yes, the same thing is happening in men's tennis that we have been watching in the last few years in women's tennis, each tournament has a different winner.
Given the years of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, their injuries and fatigue, it was expected that the time of their great domination would come to an end.
I think Nadal still has a chance to win the GS in Paris if he will be healthy and ready, and Djokovic could still win a few GS if he will be healthy and mentally ready.
Other young tennis players are still relatively young and need more experience and psychological stability to surpass the old champions and it is really unlikely that anyone will ever surpass the big three.

I totally agree with you’ll the trio dominance looks very difficult to be matched with, and it’ll make wagering on tournaments even more riskier than it currently is.

Also I’m hoping sooner or later someone steps up when these 3 finally step down, because there’s so much potential in these young player’s, but for some reason they fail when it matters the most.

Lots of potential young players we have in the circuit that match the big 3 or big 4 dominance in the coming years.

The only thing lacking with this young players are the mentally. Djokovic, Federer and Nadal are very different when they started. It seems that they really wanted to proved something and the motivation of their young version is very different from the young version of young players.

Yeah, hopefully when they steps down, we can see another breed of big 3 that will dominate in the next 10-15 years.

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Quote from: aoluain on October 19, 2021, 07:04:44 AM

I have only briefly looked into the Moscow tournament and decided to go with 1 bet in Antwerp, Harris to beat Bergs. I only have a small amount of Satoshis to play with without loading my account....again.

Those look like good bets Timelord!

One of my pics has been cancelled ( Ekaterina Alexandrova Vs Ons Jabeur ) while another matchup is underway at the moment. ( Anastasia Potapova Vs Simona Halep (and it's not looking good for Anastasia Potapova )). I don't know why, but I thought all five of those matches would have been played already, however, three won't be played for many hours yet.

In the meantime...

A. Kalinskaya/A. Potapova @ 1.65 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.08 mBTC

Which is due to start any minute now. Grin

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Quote from: casperBGD on October 18, 2021, 05:54:27 AM

this tournament also showed us that there is no "new big three", all these players that are trying to replace big trio, are far lower quality, and we will have probably four different winners on four grand slams in a year, as soon as Novak retires

Definitely, it's the end of an era (or getting towards it). Those three are all-time greats, and it was bizarre to have them all playing at the same time. We've been waiting for years for the next big player to step up, but understandably no-one has been able to match these three so far. But at least it will be interesting having diferent winners all the time, with no-one really dominant.

Maybe when they really go out and say that they are retiring, we could see players becoming the next big 3. But Djokovic is still active, and Nadal trying as well and maybe we can still see Federer next year too.

Perhaps after they 'officially' call it quits, Medvedev, Rublev and Tsitsipas can comfortably claim the next big 3. They just need to step up and starts to win Grand Slams.

I think it will become a little more open than just Medvedev, Rublev and Tsitsipas,
We must also consider Zverev and Sinner at least. There are also some other players who
have been showing great potential, Felix AA, Berrettini, Harris, Opelka and Popyrin for example.

Maybe it will become a bit like the womens side where there are a number of players
who can beat each other regularly.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 18, 2021, 10:16:14 PM

In the WTA in Moscow, I'm putting some small wagers on the following:

Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova @ 1.25 Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Aryna Sabalenka @ 1.23 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Elena Rybakina @ 1.85 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.09 mBTC
Anastasia Potapova @ 3.78 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.19 mBTC
Ons Jabeur @ 1.31 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC

I haven't made any pics on the WTA in Tenerife for today.

I have only briefly looked into the Moscow tournament and decided to go with 1 bet in Antwerp,
Harris to beat Bergs. I only have a small amount of Satoshis to play with without loading
my account....again.

Those look like good bets Timelord!

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Quote from: Daniel91 on October 19, 2021, 04:53:48 AM

Quote from: Cnut237 on October 18, 2021, 07:45:40 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on October 18, 2021, 05:54:27 AM

this tournament also showed us that there is no "new big three", all these players that are trying to replace big trio, are far lower quality, and we will have probably four different winners on four grand slams in a year, as soon as Novak retires

Definitely, it's the end of an era (or getting towards it). Those three are all-time greats, and it was bizarre to have them all playing at the same time. We've been waiting for years for the next big player to step up, but understandably no-one has been able to match these three so far. But at least it will be interesting having diferent winners all the time, with no-one really dominant.

Yes, the same thing is happening in men's tennis that we have been watching in the last few years in women's tennis, each tournament has a different winner.
Given the years of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, their injuries and fatigue, it was expected that the time of their great domination would come to an end.
I think Nadal still has a chance to win the GS in Paris if he will be healthy and ready, and Djokovic could still win a few GS if he will be healthy and mentally ready.
Other young tennis players are still relatively young and need more experience and psychological stability to surpass the old champions and it is really unlikely that anyone will ever surpass the big three.

I totally agree with you’ll the trio dominance looks very difficult to be matched with, and it’ll make wagering on tournaments even more riskier than it currently is.

Also I’m hoping sooner or later someone steps up when these 3 finally step down, because there’s so much potential in these young player’s, but for some reason they fail when it matters the most.

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Quote from: Cnut237 on October 18, 2021, 07:45:40 AM

Quote from: casperBGD on October 18, 2021, 05:54:27 AM

this tournament also showed us that there is no "new big three", all these players that are trying to replace big trio, are far lower quality, and we will have probably four different winners on four grand slams in a year, as soon as Novak retires

Definitely, it's the end of an era (or getting towards it). Those three are all-time greats, and it was bizarre to have them all playing at the same time. We've been waiting for years for the next big player to step up, but understandably no-one has been able to match these three so far. But at least it will be interesting having diferent winners all the time, with no-one really dominant.

Yes, the same thing is happening in men's tennis that we have been watching in the last few years in women's tennis, each tournament has a different winner.
Given the years of Federer, Nadal and Djokovic, their injuries and fatigue, it was expected that the time of their great domination would come to an end.
I think Nadal still has a chance to win the GS in Paris if he will be healthy and ready, and Djokovic could still win a few GS if he will be healthy and mentally ready.
Other young tennis players are still relatively young and need more experience and psychological stability to surpass the old champions and it is really unlikely that anyone will ever surpass the big three.

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In the WTA in Moscow, I'm putting some small wagers on the following:

Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova @ 1.25 Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Aryna Sabalenka @ 1.23 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.06 mBTC
Elena Rybakina @ 1.85 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.09 mBTC
Anastasia Potapova @ 3.78 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.19 mBTC
Ons Jabeur @ 1.31 - Taken Amount: 0.05 mBTC - Possible Payout: 0.07 mBTC

I haven't made any pics on the WTA in Tenerife for today.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on October 18, 2021, 05:55:29 AM

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Quote from: Cnut237 on October 18, 2021, 04:08:20 AM

Fantastic that Norrie won, it's been a great couple of months for us British tennis fans.

Norrie's career has been very different to Raducanu's, a slow rise up the rankings over the years... but he has had a fantastic 2021, and is closing on 50 victories for the year! He even has a chance now of making the tour finals at the end of the year, particularly with Rafa unlikely to take a spot.

This year his statistics are quite good, he has several chances to win more titles this year there are at least 4 defeats in final, so total he has made 6 finals and 2 becomes champions, can win master 1000 is a big win for him. Source

Maybe Norrie can make it to ATP Finals for this year?

Yeah, seems to be that British tennis is riding on a momentum right now, eventhough that Raducanu was booted out in the first round, Norrie shows in the men side. I would say it is a very tough tournament, with almost all the top seed joining here. He lost the first set surprisingly, but made a comeback, made a few sats as well in him winning.

First of all congrats to Norrie and all the British Tennis fans as they are on a honeymoon period recently Tongue

. But overall a good show from both the players and specially Norrie. I love the thing about him is that he has slowly paced in the rankings and the tournaments and has done really well this year. We usually appreciate the top-ranked players only and born-stars but hardly appreciate players like Norrie who have tough times but still recover from them and train hard and at the end of the day the result is in front of us. Very well deserved to him.

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