Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 6.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 29, 2023, 01:39:04 AM

@Oasisman. Agreed. The fight might start with both of them being very careful and make it almost boring, I reckon. Also, similar to some of the recent superfights we have witnessed, these fighters are already very rich and are also assured of millions from their share of the purse. They might not want to punched in the face early in the fight or for the whole fight hehehehe.

I also changed my vote to Spence. Who are these other 2 voters with me? @Boafeng? @bisdak40?

We are now up to four hehe.

Yeah, they might be very cautious at the opening rounds and we might be disappointed that this fight will not go as expected but I hope that they will slag it out to give the fans the worth of their money.

I give Spence the edge here as he is younger and taller, hoping he can work it out to his advantage but overall this one is very tough to predict.

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Anyone noticed that the odds has slightly changes? Crawford from 1.59 to now 1.53 ML. So it seems that someone or at least a lot of people are now betting on Crawford to win this fight at ML. Maybe after the face off and weigh-in, they might see something in Crawford that suddenly they bet on him.

So it's good still for Spence backers as the odds are very attractive as obviously he is the underdog. But smart money is going to Crawford now, and goodluck to those who have bet already. And just like the rest of the fans here, I'm also very excited about this fight and also the other fights in the undercard like Donaire and Pitbull Cruz vs Cabrera.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 29, 2023, 05:57:59 AM

So it seems like the Crawford vs Spence event has some more fireworks pre-fight night. Have you guys watched the altercation between former champion Caleb Plant and 2 division champion Jermall Charlo? Caleb Plant landed a slap on Jermall Charlo's face before the security was able to separate Caleb. There were also rumors that the wives of twins Jermall and Jermell had another fight in the parking lot. Cheesy

So I am now changing my previous prediction of 800k PPV buys to a million plus in this event.

I saw this and thought they were going to talk about the reason for all this fighting, but even the guys who were close to the two fighters didn't understand what was going on and just separated the two fighters so that there would be no more fighting, I saw it on a website where It said that Plant yelled at Charlo not to hit him again, which seems to me that if they hadn't stopped this fight early, things would have gotten out of hand and the fight would have been very serious.

there are a few hours left for the fight to start and I won't be able to watch this fight, so I'll wait for the fight to end and I'll see the summary of the fight, I still maintain my opinion that Terence will win this fight, he arrives in this fight as the favorite and with odd of @1.67 is a good odd, too bad I don't have more funds to place a bet and also because I'm in the betting holiday mode until the 10th of August when the premier league starts, all I can do is watch the fight summary and guess who will be the winner, which in my case will be Terence

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Quote from: Maslate on July 29, 2023, 02:16:50 PM

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Now for the final question, will Crawford able to make it straight into a reality and be the strongest in the welterweight division? Or most of us here are wrong about him and we might've underestimated the underdog who prolonged the fight.

Well, nobody can answer that question for sure because it's not just you but all of us who are excited to see this fight is also rooting to find the answer. And if I'm being honest, I'd say that Crawford got some chances to win over Spence, but we know that the latter is not that easy to overcome and it will be a tough battle before we can finally know the answer.

For now, let's enjoy and hopefully we will get the entertainment that we want for the fight later.

Can't wait for this fight. I just hoe either way it's not one of those 1st or 2nd round wins. I need to see a battle tonight. So what's everyone here leaning towards? I'm in on Crawford and might lay a little more. And a flyer on tko in 7th-9th rounds. I think this one is crawford's to lose.

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Quote from: Japinat on July 29, 2023, 12:20:50 PM

Now for the final question, will Crawford able to make it straight into a reality and be the strongest in the welterweight division? Or most of us here are wrong about him and we might've underestimated the underdog who prolonged the fight.

Well, nobody can answer that question for sure because it's not just you but all of us who are excited to see this fight is also rooting to find the answer. And if I'm being honest, I'd say that Crawford got some chances to win over Spence, but we know that the latter is not that easy to overcome and it will be a tough battle before we can finally know the answer.

For now, let's enjoy and hopefully we will get the entertainment that we want for the fight later.

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Going to the big event tomorrow this is the result of the poll for this super fight

Terrence "Bud" Crawford   - 24 (88.9%)
Errol "The Truth" Spence   - 3 (11.1%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 27

They have their final face-off both fighters did not trash talk each other, from all the boxing events this year this one is by far the most exciting because we have three great fights in this event, The Donaire - Santiago title match, the Isaac Pitbull - Cabrera match and the much awaited Crawford - Spence fight, I hope we can watch this fight, I'll be early to check the live feed on social media.

Even outside the forum, Crawford is still the heavy favorite. There have been rumors before that it was Spence who was ducking Crawford, so in the minds of the fans, Crawford is the better boxer. Additionally, if we look at Crawford's boxing record, all of his previous fights have ended in knockouts, so he would be breaking that streak if he does not win here via knockout. Personally, I believe that Spence is strong, but I like Crawford to win by KO because the odds are very attractive.

I noticed that, as well, Crawford still shows as favorite with how bookies place the odds.

Personally, it will be a tough fight for both fighters, but the winner will be the one who is much hunger for unifying the
belts and really wanted that fame to be declared as the best fighter from this division. We will witness who's going
to win and claimed all the belts when the announcer declared the name of the winner of this match.

Yes, it's hard to deny that Crawford is really getting all the votes from the people inside and outside this forum and honestly, it doesn't surprise me anymore because even before this fight has been made, I already know that Crawford will get the people's pulse. Not because of his story that he was fooled on their first negotiation but because people believed that he is a better boxer compared to Spence who acquired three belts beforehand.

Now for the final question, will Crawford able to make it straight into a reality and be the strongest in the welterweight division? Or most of us here are wrong about him and we might've underestimated the underdog who prolonged the fight.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on July 29, 2023, 07:23:36 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on July 29, 2023, 04:02:05 AM

Going to the big event tomorrow this is the result of the poll for this super fight

Terrence "Bud" Crawford   - 24 (88.9%)
Errol "The Truth" Spence   - 3 (11.1%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 27

They have their final face-off both fighters did not trash talk each other, from all the boxing events this year this one is by far the most exciting because we have three great fights in this event, The Donaire - Santiago title match, the Isaac Pitbull - Cabrera match and the much awaited Crawford - Spence fight, I hope we can watch this fight, I'll be early to check the live feed on social media.

Even outside the forum, Crawford is still the heavy favorite. There have been rumors before that it was Spence who was ducking Crawford, so in the minds of the fans, Crawford is the better boxer. Additionally, if we look at Crawford's boxing record, all of his previous fights have ended in knockouts, so he would be breaking that streak if he does not win here via knockout. Personally, I believe that Spence is strong, but I like Crawford to win by KO because the odds are very attractive.

I noticed that, as well, Crawford still shows as favorite with how bookies place the odds.

Personally, it will be a tough fight for both fighters, but the winner will be the one who is much hunger for unifying the
belts and really wanted that fame to be declared as the best fighter from this division. We will witness who's going
to win and claimed all the belts when the announcer declared the name of the winner of this match.

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Quote from: coin-investor on July 29, 2023, 04:02:05 AM

Going to the big event tomorrow this is the result of the poll for this super fight

Terrence "Bud" Crawford   - 24 (88.9%)
Errol "The Truth" Spence   - 3 (11.1%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 27

They have their final face-off both fighters did not trash talk each other, from all the boxing events this year this one is by far the most exciting because we have three great fights in this event, The Donaire - Santiago title match, the Isaac Pitbull - Cabrera match and the much awaited Crawford - Spence fight, I hope we can watch this fight, I'll be early to check the live feed on social media.

Even outside the forum, Crawford is still the heavy favorite. There have been rumors before that it was Spence who was ducking Crawford, so in the minds of the fans, Crawford is the better boxer. Additionally, if we look at Crawford's boxing record, all of his previous fights have ended in knockouts, so he would be breaking that streak if he does not win here via knockout. Personally, I believe that Spence is strong, but I like Crawford to win by KO because the odds are very attractive.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 29, 2023, 05:57:59 AM

So it seems like the Crawford vs Spence event has some more fireworks pre-fight night. Have you guys watched the altercation between former champion Caleb Plant and 2 division champion Jermall Charlo? Caleb Plant landed a slap on Jermall Charlo's face before the security was able to separate Caleb. There were also rumors that the wives of twins Jermall and Jermell had another fight in the parking lot. Cheesy

So I am now changing my previous prediction of 800k PPV buys to a million plus in this event.

What's the beef though between Caleb and the Charlo's? Or maybe there was something that the Charlo's said against Caleb that he reacted violently and slapping him?

Quote from: inthelongrun on July 29, 2023, 05:57:59 AM

Can't wait for this event to happen. Looking forward to Nonito Donaire breaking his own record as the oldest bantamweight champion in history and the oldest champion in the present. There's also a battle between Pacman's MP Promotions fighter Isaac Cruz and his close friend and former coach Freddie Roach's protege Giovanni Cabrera. And the main event, I am looking forward to seeing Terrence Bud Crawford as the first ever 2-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era.

Yes, I think everyone is really hype on the Donaire vs Santiago fight and that everyone is expecting that at 40 years old, Donaire will break his own record as the oldest. His record for now stands at 38 when he knockout Ouballi. But he has a good chance to break it again.

Oh yeah, if Bud Crawford will win then he will be the first and most likely Inoue will be the second if I'm not mistaken. I totally forget that Crawford did it at 140 lbs already.

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So it seems like the Crawford vs Spence event has some more fireworks pre-fight night. Have you guys watched the altercation between former champion Caleb Plant and 2 division champion Jermall Charlo? Caleb Plant landed a slap on Jermall Charlo's face before the security was able to separate Caleb. There were also rumors that the wives of twins Jermall and Jermell had another fight in the parking lot. Cheesy

So I am now changing my previous prediction of 800k PPV buys to a million plus in this event.

Can't wait for this event to happen. Looking forward to Nonito Donaire breaking his own record as the oldest bantamweight champion in history and the oldest champion in the present. There's also a battle between Pacman's MP Promotions fighter Isaac Cruz and his close friend and former coach Freddie Roach's protege Giovanni Cabrera. And the main event, I am looking forward to seeing Terrence Bud Crawford as the first ever 2-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era.

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Going to the big event tomorrow this is the result of the poll for this super fight

Terrence "Bud" Crawford   - 24 (88.9%)
Errol "The Truth" Spence   - 3 (11.1%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 27

They have their final face-off both fighters did not trash talk each other, from all the boxing events this year this one is by far the most exciting because we have three great fights in this event, The Donaire - Santiago title match, the Isaac Pitbull - Cabrera match and the much awaited Crawford - Spence fight, I hope we can watch this fight, I'll be early to check the live feed on social media.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 28, 2023, 11:37:41 PM

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I have already bet Crawford by KO but after reading some comments I'm now unsure if I did the right choice. Roll Eyes

Crawford may have won in this poll but the boxing community is also saying Spence has superior technical skills, he is also better in defense and is physically stronger. I may not even watch this fight because there is also another event in UFC but we're also going to be seeing them fight twice since both of them can activate their rematch clause as well.

Goodluck with your bet. Both fighters are actually one of the best in boxing today for that reason. Though there are chances for Crawford to knock Spence down, but I don't think it is higher than his past opponent. Crawford is a very dangerous fighter, he can knock you off cold when he sees an opening. That same goes for Spence. You seriously can't have a higher percentage of KO if your punching power are weak.
However, I dont think either of both will be comfortable just throwing their usual jabs without being precautious. I expect they'll play safe at an early rounds, who ever gets the momentum and gets a bit comfortable will become the aggressor, the other one will stand more defensively as a counter puncher as well. This is the fight of 2 elite fighters - so there are no guarantee who will win and how will the match ends.

Yes, not just in their weight division, but throughout boxing, encompassing all weight classes. 2 of the best, undefeated boxers that we have right now, and fighting for the unification. This is the modern fight of the likes of Sugar Ray Leonard vs Thomas the Hitman Hearns.

So there are many scenarios in this fight, maybe they will just jab each other early and feel the power. Or the other guy going too aggressive and wanted to score a knockout or totally dominated the fight. We will see which style will win here, I'm thinking of Crawford has the advantage at first and then maybe Spence coming back from behind and winning the rounds.

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@Oasisman. Agreed. The fight might start with both of them being very careful and make it almost boring, I reckon. Also, similar to some of the recent superfights we have witnessed, these fighters are already very rich and are also assured of millions from their share of the purse. They might not want to punched in the face early in the fight or for the whole fight hehehehe.

I also changed my vote to Spence. Who are these other 2 voters with me? @Boafeng? @bisdak40?

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Quote from: bittraffic on July 26, 2023, 12:14:47 PM

I have already bet Crawford by KO but after reading some comments I'm now unsure if I did the right choice. Roll Eyes

Crawford may have won in this poll but the boxing community is also saying Spence has superior technical skills, he is also better in defense and is physically stronger. I may not even watch this fight because there is also another event in UFC but we're also going to be seeing them fight twice since both of them can activate their rematch clause as well.

Goodluck with your bet. Both fighters are actually one of the best in boxing today for that reason. Though there are chances for Crawford to knock Spence down, but I don't think it is higher than his past opponent. Crawford is a very dangerous fighter, he can knock you off cold when he sees an opening. That same goes for Spence. You seriously can't have a higher percentage of KO if your punching power are weak.
However, I dont think either of both will be comfortable just throwing their usual jabs without being precautious. I expect they'll play safe at an early rounds, who ever gets the momentum and gets a bit comfortable will become the aggressor, the other one will stand more defensively as a counter puncher as well. This is the fight of 2 elite fighters - so there are no guarantee who will win and how will the match ends.

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This is it and the fight will now happen for real within just less than 24 hours.

At the official face-off and weigh-in;

Terence "Bud" Crawford @ 146.3 lbs
Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. @ 147 lbs

Both fighters are look conditioned and no signs of any exhaustion or something along those lines because of hard training. I also like the way they talked to each other during the face-off and shake hands where in most cases, we are seeing rival boxers already starting to get heated once facing each other. It's like they are showing respect to each other and will just do the talking in the ring.

Let's get it on!

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This thread is silent the day before this long awaited battle will finally takes place. Is this calm before the storm?

To all those who have been demanding and waiting for this moment, have you already placed your bet? As for me, I have already placed a small amount for Crawford. I can't miss betting on this mega-fight between undefeated fighters. Just ML to be safe even if I strongly believe this fight will not last 12 rounds.

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maybe by decision or perhaps this fight will go over and last the full 12 rounds.

This fight could last for 12 rounds if both boxers can absorb the punches thrown at them. They are not the kind of fighters who are slick enough; they always want to exchange punches. Since both are strong punchers, honestly, I doubt it will go to the judges' scorecards.

With only a few days remaining, I just want to be optimistic that Crawford will win, as I believe he is the better boxer. Terrence may have more belts, but Crawford's wins have been very dominant and convincing. Let's see if Crawford will live up to our expectations.

But knowing the magnitude of this fight, for sure they will play defense and could be hesitant to throw punches early. And as you have said, they are slick so they have their hands on their chin always and their ego will say that they don't want to lost and then got knockout as well.

You mean Spence might have 3 belts? but Crawford is the complete fighter, although the smaller one, but for me his IQ is just above everyone else at 147 lbs and it might play a big role if this fight goes to distance.

Errol Spence may have 3 belts in his possession but certainly that doesn't mean that he is more superior or dominant than Terence Crawford that is yet to be answered this Saturday. Also because of his actions in the past years says different because it's somehow clear that he is ducking the latter and afraid to take the call then proceeds to wait the latter until to be much older. Just like what Mayweather did against Pacquiao at that time.

Indeed, we will be able to conclude now who's better between these two champs.

A long awaited fight that will unify all the belts in this division, fans will surely love how both fighters will going to execute
their respective strategy to win.

In that note about the similarity with how Mayweather handles the call in fighting Pacquiao, most of the fans feel that same way
but like what happened before, better than never. Let see if the same result will it be..

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Winding down.

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maybe by decision or perhaps this fight will go over and last the full 12 rounds.

This fight could last for 12 rounds if both boxers can absorb the punches thrown at them. They are not the kind of fighters who are slick enough; they always want to exchange punches. Since both are strong punchers, honestly, I doubt it will go to the judges' scorecards.

With only a few days remaining, I just want to be optimistic that Crawford will win, as I believe he is the better boxer. Terrence may have more belts, but Crawford's wins have been very dominant and convincing. Let's see if Crawford will live up to our expectations.

But knowing the magnitude of this fight, for sure they will play defense and could be hesitant to throw punches early. And as you have said, they are slick so they have their hands on their chin always and their ego will say that they don't want to lost and then got knockout as well.

You mean Spence might have 3 belts? but Crawford is the complete fighter, although the smaller one, but for me his IQ is just above everyone else at 147 lbs and it might play a big role if this fight goes to distance.

Errol Spence may have 3 belts in his possession but certainly that doesn't mean that he is more superior or dominant than Terence Crawford that is yet to be answered this Saturday. Also because of his actions in the past years says different because it's somehow clear that he is ducking the latter and afraid to take the call then proceeds to wait the latter until to be much older. Just like what Mayweather did against Pacquiao at that time.

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So from my earlier prediction of around 500k PPV buys, I believe that it should get a minimum of 800k now but hopefully, it will reach more than 1.2 million buys. Tickets are all sold out so an expected 20k fight fans will be watching.

This fight deserves to have at least 1 million PPV buys as they have hyped it a lot, and we thought it might not happen. Now that it's taking place in just a few days, I'm sure everyone is excited to see who the better boxer truly is.

Did the odds change a bit?

I'm checking now, and Crawford is becoming a heavy favorite from being a slight favorite.

Spence: 2.24
Crawford: 1.59

Nothing has change if I'm not mistaken, Crawford at the start is around 1.6k'ish odd, so just a small change in the odds but it's not that big to consider a swing on his favor. So it means that there are a lot of money in equal terms flowing in both direction. Maybe there will be some a small change, but its manageable and it can be covered.

And it's just a matter of how much bigger the PPV is, initially in the promotion of the hype, there is not that much noise. But come a few days before the fight there are a lot of speculations around and hype are getting bigger. So hopefully it can breach 1 million and so if will be the 2nd fight this year that we will have this big numbers based on the fighters themselves.

I guess more bets are flowing on Crawford's side, but it hasn't changed a lot since Spence is also a champion, and probably the sharps are backing him with their bets. Both are champions, actually, but we cannot deny that fans see Crawford as the better fighter, so the odds will likely stay that way. It's up to us if we will choose the underdog and enjoy a good return in case Spence wins.

There's a lot at stake for Spence here, but he is willing to take that risk, so he must have a good plan on how to defeat Crawford. Losing here means losing his popularity as well.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on July 28, 2023, 06:38:45 AM

So from my earlier prediction of around 500k PPV buys, I believe that it should get a minimum of 800k now but hopefully, it will reach more than 1.2 million buys. Tickets are all sold out so an expected 20k fight fans will be watching.

I'm with you here mate, yeah it seems that the hype has reaches it's peak as well and the timing is perfect for this guys to get the needed boost as everyone is talking about this mega fight in social media. So perhaps conservative estimates could run around 500k-800k PPV and then the highest could be around 1 million and higher and could even topple the record of Tank - Ryan Garcia fight in terms of revenues. And with that, both can make a tune of like $30M-$50M easy? What you think?

I also did not see any movement as far as the odds goes. Still Crawford is considered by the bookmakers as the favorite and then Spence, this is his first time to be the underdog after a long time.

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