Topic: Terrence Crawford vs Errol Spence - July 29 - page 4. (Read 2396 times)

Quote from: Kemarit on July 30, 2023, 10:18:06 PM

I can't believe some people are complaining about the stoppage saying it was too early as if they wanted Crawford to land more powerful blows and end Spence's boxing career hehe. It was the right call since he had nothing left aside from his willingness to fight. No miracle is going to happen because Terrence was just taking all his clean punches like it's nothing.

I've heard several excuses. Even Deontay Wilder is saying that Spence lost because he was dehydrated. Some people are saying it was the car accident. None of those is really a valid excuse. Spence had already been rocked by Porter and Ugas, so if somebody like Crawford landed cleanly on him it was obviously going to be a very bad night for him. Spence already had several chances to fight Crawford before his accident but he avoided him for years.

Just make it complicated though, if they are going to fight at 154 lbs, then technically there should be no belt on the line? Or if Spence is down with that, and obviously Crawford too, then they could go and sign the contract.

It's interesting though that Crawford has now a beef with Jermell Charlo, you can see that after he put down Spence he is taunting Charlo (with the red get up), in the crowd. So this is another storyboard for Crawford if he goes to the route of 154 lbs and then fight Charlo who is a close friend of Spence and trains at the same gym.

For some reason Charlo felt that he needed to support Spence by always talking trash about Crawford. When Crawford responded by challenging him to a fight, Charlo has deflected by saying he hasn't fought anybody. Charlo's words may have backfired and now Crawford is looking to punish him for everything he has said.

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Nailed it. Crawford annihilated Spence. It was so one sided I'm surprised Spence wants a round 2. In the terms it has to be by the end of the year so likely Spence vs Crawford 2 in December. After knocking Spence down in the 7th I thought it was likely that round or the 8th but still snuck in my tko 7-9th rounds. No question who runs welterweight boxing right now and was the fight Crawford needed in his career to kill off any naysayers.

Is there a rematch clause on their deal? I do not think that there is a need for a rematch on this fight since Crawford literraly annihilated Spence Jr. I was very surprised since he make Spence Jr. looks like an amateur. I do not know the huge gap in their ability. Spence Jr. tried to fight back but the good defense of Crawford prevented him instead Spence effort to deal a devastating blow to Crawford backed fire to him since Crawford is way quicker taking advantage of the opening when Spences tries to hit big.

Yes, there is a rematch clause in the contract. But the clause included terms like while the loser may activate it, the winner will be the one to determine the weight. This early, Spence expressed interest for a rematch. But he also earlier mentioned that whatever the result of this match he'll be moving to 154. That's going to be a problem. Lucky for him, Crawford is open for it. He's also been planning to move up. So if the rematch will indeed be activated and Crawford is willing to have it at 154, then there will be a rematch.

It's another story though if the rematch is actually needed and interesting to watch. For me it is not anymore necessary. A rematch is usually interesting when the fight is close and that the winner will have to prove once again that he is indeed the better boxer. In this case, Crawford has nothing to prove. He is clearly of a different level. Spence wasn't able to compete.

Just make it complicated though, if they are going to fight at 154 lbs, then technically there should be no belt on the line? Or if Spence is down with that, and obviously Crawford too, then they could go and sign the contract.

It's interesting though that Crawford has now a beef with Jermell Charlo, you can see that after he put down Spence he is taunting Charlo (with the red get up), in the crowd. So this is another storyboard for Crawford if he goes to the route of 154 lbs and then fight Charlo who is a close friend of Spence and trains at the same gym.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1685564113148055552

And just to add, I think Spence is the best American boxer that we have seen, after Floyd and Andre Ward.

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Nailed it. Crawford annihilated Spence. It was so one sided I'm surprised Spence wants a round 2. In the terms it has to be by the end of the year so likely Spence vs Crawford 2 in December. After knocking Spence down in the 7th I thought it was likely that round or the 8th but still snuck in my tko 7-9th rounds. No question who runs welterweight boxing right now and was the fight Crawford needed in his career to kill off any naysayers.

Is there a rematch clause on their deal? I do not think that there is a need for a rematch on this fight since Crawford literraly annihilated Spence Jr. I was very surprised since he make Spence Jr. looks like an amateur. I do not know the huge gap in their ability. Spence Jr. tried to fight back but the good defense of Crawford prevented him instead Spence effort to deal a devastating blow to Crawford backed fire to him since Crawford is way quicker taking advantage of the opening when Spences tries to hit big.

Yes, there is a rematch clause in the contract. But the clause included terms like while the loser may activate it, the winner will be the one to determine the weight. This early, Spence expressed interest for a rematch. But he also earlier mentioned that whatever the result of this match he'll be moving to 154. That's going to be a problem. Lucky for him, Crawford is open for it. He's also been planning to move up. So if the rematch will indeed be activated and Crawford is willing to have it at 154, then there will be a rematch.

It's another story though if the rematch is actually needed and interesting to watch. For me it is not anymore necessary. A rematch is usually interesting when the fight is close and that the winner will have to prove once again that he is indeed the better boxer. In this case, Crawford has nothing to prove. He is clearly of a different level. Spence wasn't able to compete.

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Quote from: harizen on July 30, 2023, 06:11:57 PM

I can't believe some people are complaining about the stoppage saying it was too early as if they wanted Crawford to land more powerful blows and end Spence's boxing career hehe. It was the right call since he had nothing left aside from his willingness to fight. No miracle is going to happen because Terrence was just taking all his clean punches like it's nothing.

I agree with the stoppage there are too many head punches, Spence's face has a lot of bruises and he is buckling, the referee is just waiting for the right time to stop the fight because he knew it was going to happen, earlier in the fight the doctor was summoned to check on Spence because his face is very red from to many punches, and Crawford was getting stronger, the decision is right, the fighter's welfare should always be the concern, no matter what.

I also think that it was the right decision for the ref to stop the fight. Even though Spence wanted to continue, I do not think he is able to give a devasting punch that will knock out Crawford in his condition. It was just surprising that Spence looks unprepared for the match or it is just Crawford is too much for Spence Jr. to handle? I still can't believe how poor the performance of Spence in this unification fight.

In fairness though to Spence, even after receiving heavy damages, still shows determination and eagerness to keep up with the fight and try to last long. Even after receiving heavy and strong punches from Crawford, he still shows releasing some power punches but the problem is, it didn't able to connect because Crawford's defense is really tough.

That's the heart of a champion for sure but sadly the determination to continue does not win the fight.

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That Bud Crawford's jab is insane. Spence received lots of like it was nothing but in reality, slowly giving him some damage throughout the rounds. After realizing that Spence is now slowing being slow down and defense is not that tough anymore, that's time Bud will release his power punch and connects lots of it.

In fairness though to Spence, even after receiving heavy damages, still shows determination and eagerness to keep up with the fight and try to last long. Even after receiving heavy and strong punches from Crawford, he still shows releasing some power punches but the problem is, it didn't able to connect because Crawford's defense is really tough.

Now that it settles, I don't think that there should be a rematch. A rematch just makes sense if the fight is close, not unless the business side will prevail.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on July 30, 2023, 01:32:55 PM

I can't believe some people are complaining about the stoppage saying it was too early as if they wanted Crawford to land more powerful blows and end Spence's boxing career hehe. It was the right call since he had nothing left aside from his willingness to fight. No miracle is going to happen because Terrence was just taking all his clean punches like it's nothing.

I agree with the stoppage there are too many head punches, Spence's face has a lot of bruises and he is buckling, the referee is just waiting for the right time to stop the fight because he knew it was going to happen, earlier in the fight the doctor was summoned to check on Spence because his face is very red from to many punches, and Crawford was getting stronger, the decision is right, the fighter's welfare should always be the concern, no matter what.

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Now for the final question, will Crawford able to make it straight into a reality and be the strongest in the welterweight division? Or most of us here are wrong about him and we might've underestimated the underdog who prolonged the fight.

Well, nobody can answer that question for sure because it's not just you but all of us who are excited to see this fight is also rooting to find the answer. And if I'm being honest, I'd say that Crawford got some chances to win over Spence, but we know that the latter is not that easy to overcome and it will be a tough battle before we can finally know the answer.

For now, let's enjoy and hopefully we will get the entertainment that we want for the fight later.

Can't wait for this fight. I just hoe either way it's not one of those 1st or 2nd round wins. I need to see a battle tonight. So what's everyone here leaning towards? I'm in on Crawford and might lay a little more. And a flyer on tko in 7th-9th rounds. I think this one is crawford's to lose.

Nailed it. Crawford annihilated Spence. It was so one sided I'm surprised Spence wants a round 2. In the terms it has to be by the end of the year so likely Spence vs Crawford 2 in December. After knocking Spence down in the 7th I thought it was likely that round or the 8th but still snuck in my tko 7-9th rounds. No question who runs welterweight boxing right now and was the fight Crawford needed in his career to kill off any naysayers.

Is there a rematch clause on their deal? I do not think that there is a need for a rematch on this fight since Crawford literraly annihilated Spence Jr. I was very surprised since he make Spence Jr. looks like an amateur. I do not know the huge gap in their ability. Spence Jr. tried to fight back but the good defense of Crawford prevented him instead Spence effort to deal a devastating blow to Crawford backed fire to him since Crawford is way quicker taking advantage of the opening when Spences tries to hit big.

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I can't believe some people are complaining about the stoppage saying it was too early as if they wanted Crawford to land more powerful blows and end Spence's boxing career hehe. It was the right call since he had nothing left aside from his willingness to fight.

That's a right call ^{(even though i dont like it for the sake of my bet haha)}, if i recall it was a 6 combo punch with solid punches without a respond from Spence then referee stops the fight.

It's fair to stop it. It's best to happen they already see Spence not going to win anyway.
The org will not allow someone to have an embarrassing chicken dance knockout. Remember that it will stay on the internet forever.

Also, there are boxers who died because of not being stopped. Or forever disabled in the wheelchair because of the head injury they took from the opponent. To prevent that from happening its wise to stop when they see it's an overwhelming win.

Yeah the stoppage is already due, it can be seen on Spence face while Crawford is almost unblemished. It is best that the ref stop the fight in order for Spence to not suffer damage anymore. Even with the fight goint to Round 12, Spence has no chance of winning and I do not think that Spence has the strength to KO Crawford in the following round since Spence did hit Crawford with big bombs but Crawford seems not affected.

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Now for the final question, will Crawford able to make it straight into a reality and be the strongest in the welterweight division? Or most of us here are wrong about him and we might've underestimated the underdog who prolonged the fight.

Well, nobody can answer that question for sure because it's not just you but all of us who are excited to see this fight is also rooting to find the answer. And if I'm being honest, I'd say that Crawford got some chances to win over Spence, but we know that the latter is not that easy to overcome and it will be a tough battle before we can finally know the answer.

For now, let's enjoy and hopefully we will get the entertainment that we want for the fight later.

Can't wait for this fight. I just hoe either way it's not one of those 1st or 2nd round wins. I need to see a battle tonight. So what's everyone here leaning towards? I'm in on Crawford and might lay a little more. And a flyer on tko in 7th-9th rounds. I think this one is crawford's to lose.

Nailed it. Crawford annihilated Spence. It was so one sided I'm surprised Spence wants a round 2. In the terms it has to be by the end of the year so likely Spence vs Crawford 2 in December. After knocking Spence down in the 7th I thought it was likely that round or the 8th but still snuck in my tko 7-9th rounds. No question who runs welterweight boxing right now and was the fight Crawford needed in his career to kill off any naysayers.

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I can't believe some people are complaining about the stoppage saying it was too early as if they wanted Crawford to land more powerful blows and end Spence's boxing career hehe. It was the right call since he had nothing left aside from his willingness to fight.

That's a right call ^{(even though i dont like it for the sake of my bet haha)}, if i recall it was a 6 combo punch with solid punches without a respond from Spence then referee stops the fight.

It's fair to stop it. It's best to happen they already see Spence not going to win anyway.
The org will not allow someone to have an embarrassing chicken dance knockout. Remember that it will stay on the internet forever.

Also, there are boxers who died because of not being stopped. Or forever disabled in the wheelchair because of the head injury they took from the opponent. To prevent that from happening its wise to stop when they see it's an overwhelming win.

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