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Quote from: posi on June 10, 2022, 02:44:27 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 09, 2022, 11:57:53 PM

And what should ICC do about it? Corner/Bully BCCI? I'm sure it won't go well.

ICC is never going to say anything that BCCI does not support because they know very well if BCCI does not stand with ICC, it will be a really bad time for the ICC. So I don't know if there is any way around it but currently, I don't have any solution to this problem.

Only possible solution for ICC would be to create alternate source of revenue and new market (first step should be start multi nation WC and discard existing formula), in a longer run they can't afford to depend on Indian market only. BCCI have ambition to expand IPL footprints in the future, we don't know how would it look like after 10 years as IPL is still new product but if somehow it clicks then Broadcaster/advertisers are going to divert all money to IPL instead of ICC events, it's already started to happen.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 10, 2022, 09:57:08 PM

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New Zealand team is at the front seat now after the end day one. They have collected 318 runs by losing 4 wickets only. The situation of the game was balanced between both teams until the end of second session. But New Zealand has turned the game on their favour with the partnership of Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell. The situation of the game could have been different if Root didn't drop the catch of Daryl Mitchell in the 43rd over. England has dropped few other opportunities too.

I didn't watched the entire match, but I saw two easy catches being dropped (one of them being that of Daryl Mitchell). Now New Zealand is all set to build a huge total somewhere in the range of 500-600, and England is staring towards an innings defeat. Matthew Potts and Stuart Broad, who bowled so well in the first test failed to trouble batsmen this time. And the spinner (Jack Leach) never looked threatening, and he was treated like a club bowler by both Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell. New Zealand is scoring runs at a quick pace, and they have plenty of time left to win this match.

It was only the first day of the match. Just like the last test match, this match too Mitchell and Blundell have taken all the responsibility of the team. I hope they are able to bat today too and do not lose their wicket like they did on the next day of the last test match. I am sur England will come back and stop these two to score anymore runs.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 10, 2022, 09:57:08 PM

I didn't watched the entire match, but I saw two easy catches being dropped (one of them being that of Daryl Mitchell). Now New Zealand is all set to build a huge total somewhere in the range of 500-600, and England is staring towards an innings defeat. Matthew Potts and Stuart Broad, who bowled so well in the first test failed to trouble batsmen this time. And the spinner (Jack Leach) never looked threatening, and he was treated like a club bowler by both Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell. New Zealand is scoring runs at a quick pace, and they have plenty of time left to win this match.

After first test drama, New Zealand are in full mood to win this game and level the series. On day 1 Newzealand are in hurry to score runs, there CRR was 3.65 which is quite high in test. It will be too early to say who will win this game. We have to see how England respond to this score..

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on June 10, 2022, 01:38:02 PM

New Zealand team is at the front seat now after the end day one. They have collected 318 runs by losing 4 wickets only. The situation of the game was balanced between both teams until the end of second session. But New Zealand has turned the game on their favour with the partnership of Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell. The situation of the game could have been different if Root didn't drop the catch of Daryl Mitchell in the 43rd over. England has dropped few other opportunities too.

I didn't watched the entire match, but I saw two easy catches being dropped (one of them being that of Daryl Mitchell). Now New Zealand is all set to build a huge total somewhere in the range of 500-600, and England is staring towards an innings defeat. Matthew Potts and Stuart Broad, who bowled so well in the first test failed to trouble batsmen this time. And the spinner (Jack Leach) never looked threatening, and he was treated like a club bowler by both Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell. New Zealand is scoring runs at a quick pace, and they have plenty of time left to win this match.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 09, 2022, 11:57:53 PM

And what should ICC do about it? Corner/Bully BCCI? I'm sure it won't go well.

ICC is never going to say anything that BCCI does not support because they know very well if BCCI does not stand with ICC, it will be a really bad time for the ICC. So I don't know if there is any way around it but currently, I don't have any solution to this problem.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 10, 2022, 07:19:49 AM

It was going so well for the kiwis but 2 back to back overs from Stokes and Jimmy changed the session equation (2 wickets before the lunch).
It was clearly tilting towards blackcaps but now first session is evenly poised between both squad.

New Zealand team is at the front seat now after the end day one. They have collected 318 runs by losing 4 wickets only. The situation of the game was balanced between both teams until the end of second session. But New Zealand has turned the game on their favour with the partnership of Daryl Mitchell and Tom Blundell. The situation of the game could have been different if Root didn't drop the catch of Daryl Mitchell in the 43rd over. England has dropped few other opportunities too.

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Quote from: kro55 on June 10, 2022, 06:16:13 AM

England won the toss and elected to bowl. New Zealand has yet to take a wicket in 16 overs and they have managed to score 55 runs. The condition of the pitch makes it look like a batting-friendly pitch. And so in today's match, I am expecting a high score. We will probably see more than 400 runs from the New Zealand team. And if the pitch is batting friendly, the match is most likely to be drawn.

New Zealand scored 304 runs. And they lost 4 wickets, they lost the first wicket by 82 runs and lost the fourth wicket by 169 runs. Mitchell and Blundell have a 135-run partnership. And what you did say, New Zealand can easily collect more than 400 runs. New Zealand's run rate is good enough. They are collecting 3.8 runs per over.

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It was going so well for the kiwis but 2 back to back overs from Stokes and Jimmy changed the session equation (2 wickets before the lunch).

It was clearly tilting towards blackcaps but now first session is evenly poised between both squad.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 10, 2022, 04:55:40 AM

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England : New Zealand

The second Test between England and New Zealand will be played in Nottingham shortly after. The first Test match was very competitive and enjoyable. We saw the batting disaster of both the teams in the first innings. We had a great performance in the first innings and in the second innings. Since England won the first match, New Zealand will try hard to win the second match. I look forward to watching another competitive Test match. Hopefully the match will be enjoyable.

Things were not easy for England during the first test. If the New Zealand bowlers had managed to take one more crucial wicket in the second innings, then England would have lost the match. They won the match, thanks to Joe Root, James Anderson and Matthew Potts. BTW, I heard that Matt Henry may get selected for the playing XI in second test and I should say that this is an excellent move from New Zealand. Colin de Grandhomme was a failure during the first test, and so was the spinner Ajaz Patel.

Kiwi bowlers did not perform well in the second innings of the first match. If they had bowled a little better, the match would have been completely under New Zealand's control. And so today they have added Matt Henry to the squad. And hopefully, from the last match, we will see more tidy and controlled bowling by the New Zealand bowlers in today's match. Tim Southee, Trent Boult, and Matt Henry are all experienced bowlers.

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England won the toss and elected to bowl. New Zealand has yet to take a wicket in 16 overs and they have managed to score 55 runs. The condition of the pitch makes it look like a batting-friendly pitch. And so in today's match, I am expecting a high score. We will probably see more than 400 runs from the New Zealand team. And if the pitch is batting friendly, the match is most likely to be drawn.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 10, 2022, 04:10:54 AM

England : New Zealand

The second Test between England and New Zealand will be played in Nottingham shortly after. The first Test match was very competitive and enjoyable. We saw the batting disaster of both the teams in the first innings. We had a great performance in the first innings and in the second innings. Since England won the first match, New Zealand will try hard to win the second match. I look forward to watching another competitive Test match. Hopefully the match will be enjoyable.

The three-match test series between England and New Zealand is currently 1-0 in England's favor. To level the series, New Zealand have no other choice but to put their hard work into the second Test. After winning the toss, England opts to bowl in the second Test. When Kane Williamson is absent from New Zealand, Tom Latham will take charge. However, Williamson is usually injured during crucial matches. This England team seems to be more balanced, so I hope they can win the test series.

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Quote from: Iranus on June 10, 2022, 04:10:54 AM

England : New Zealand

The second Test between England and New Zealand will be played in Nottingham shortly after. The first Test match was very competitive and enjoyable. We saw the batting disaster of both the teams in the first innings. We had a great performance in the first innings and in the second innings. Since England won the first match, New Zealand will try hard to win the second match. I look forward to watching another competitive Test match. Hopefully the match will be enjoyable.

Things were not easy for England during the first test. If the New Zealand bowlers had managed to take one more crucial wicket in the second innings, then England would have lost the match. They won the match, thanks to Joe Root, James Anderson and Matthew Potts. BTW, I heard that Matt Henry may get selected for the playing XI in second test and I should say that this is an excellent move from New Zealand. Colin de Grandhomme was a failure during the first test, and so was the spinner Ajaz Patel.

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England : New Zealand

The second Test between England and New Zealand will be played in Nottingham shortly after. The first Test match was very competitive and enjoyable. We saw the batting disaster of both the teams in the first innings. We had a great performance in the first innings and in the second innings. Since England won the first match, New Zealand will try hard to win the second match. I look forward to watching another competitive Test match. Hopefully the match will be enjoyable.

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Quote from: posi on June 09, 2022, 02:22:48 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 09, 2022, 12:27:30 PM

ICC did try to pull this card of sharing IPL revenue. BCCI simply said them to fuck off unofficially.

I'm out of touch in recent updates but if i remember correctly then i think BCCI was against ICC event every year ( it wasn't related to T20 world cup every two years, instead of four) also i believe ICC already finalised the ICC event every year (Happy if someone correct me on this one?

It will be better for cricket if IPL is brought down to finish in a shorter time as possible because for IPL, international cricket is suffering a lot. I think the days are over when IPL used to increase the popularity of cricket. Now it is just a way of making money and finding young players in the process.

So, I don't think international cricket should ever be stopped just because of one country trying to make money from a tournament and find new players for themselves.

And what should ICC do about it? Corner/Bully BCCI? I'm sure it won't go well.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 09, 2022, 12:27:30 PM

ICC did try to pull this card of sharing IPL revenue. BCCI simply said them to fuck off unofficially.

I'm out of touch in recent updates but if i remember correctly then i think BCCI was against ICC event every year ( it wasn't related to T20 world cup every two years, instead of four) also i believe ICC already finalised the ICC event every year (Happy if someone correct me on this one?

Fortunately for the ICC, the current BCCI leadership (Ganguly-Shah-Thakur) understands the need to be diplomatic with the other cricket boards. If it was Srinivasan or Pawar, they would have immediately blackmailed the ICC and threatened the latter with pullouts from the ICC tournaments. ICC should blame themselves. If they want more revenue, then they need steps to popularize cricket outside India. Reminds me of the stupid move from the European Union, to boycott Russian oil and gas, at the same time when they are overdependent on supplies from that country.

Problem is ICC is perfectly fine with milking Indian market and not even trying to expand their footprints (although they are trying a bit in USA but again majority of stakeholders are Indian based). When you're dependent on only one board for the revenue then it's normal for latter party to flex their muscles.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 09, 2022, 12:27:30 PM

ICC did try to pull this card of sharing IPL revenue. BCCI simply said them to fuck off unofficially.

I'm out of touch in recent updates but if i remember correctly then i think BCCI was against ICC event every year ( it wasn't related to T20 world cup every two years, instead of four) also i believe ICC already finalised the ICC event every year (Happy if someone correct me on this one?

Fortunately for the ICC, the current BCCI leadership (Ganguly-Shah-Thakur) understands the need to be diplomatic with the other cricket boards. If it was Srinivasan or Pawar, they would have immediately blackmailed the ICC and threatened the latter with pullouts from the ICC tournaments. ICC should blame themselves. If they want more revenue, then they need steps to popularize cricket outside India. Reminds me of the stupid move from the European Union, to boycott Russian oil and gas, at the same time when they are overdependent on supplies from that country.

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Quote from: posi on June 09, 2022, 02:22:48 PM

It will be better for cricket if IPL is brought down to finish in a shorter time as possible because for IPL, international cricket is suffering a lot. I think the days are over when IPL used to increase the popularity of cricket. Now it is just a way of making money and finding young players in the process.

So, I don't think international cricket should ever be stopped just because of one country trying to make money from a tournament and find new players for themselves.

This is correct - Had the IPL been done in shorter period of time - it would have pulled more attention.
And I also agree - earlier IPL was more of glitz and galm. There were so many popular faces involved as well. We used to see so many artists on the field too.

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 09, 2022, 12:27:30 PM

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I don't have any issue if they want to extend IPL to 3 months. But then they should not complain about new ICC tournaments. Because the BCCI last time stood against increasing the number of ICC tournaments (T20 world cup every two years, instead of four). And also, they should provide a part of their income to the ICC. Right now, the so called foreign player retention fee is pocketed by 3-4 countries such as Australia, England and West Indies. The ICC needs to distribute this fund evenly among the member states. And regarding associate players, the franchises don't prefer such players, no matter how talented they are.

ICC did try to pull this card of sharing IPL revenue. BCCI simply said them to fuck off unofficially.

I'm out of touch in recent updates but if i remember correctly then i think BCCI was against ICC event every year ( it wasn't related to T20 world cup every two years, instead of four) also i believe ICC already finalised the ICC event every year (Happy if someone correct me on this one?

It will be better for cricket if IPL is brought down to finish in a shorter time as possible because for IPL, international cricket is suffering a lot. I think the days are over when IPL used to increase the popularity of cricket. Now it is just a way of making money and finding young players in the process.

So, I don't think international cricket should ever be stopped just because of one country trying to make money from a tournament and find new players for themselves.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 08, 2022, 10:36:30 PM

Quote from: JSRAW on June 08, 2022, 07:37:12 AM

They are planning to make IPL 90 days affairs from next year or so.

If by any chance this T-10 scenario ( it was supposed to be a joke on how BCCI hijacked the T-20 format completely) pans out then BCCI will push for another 1 month dedicated window for T-10 format.

I would love to see representation from associate nations too in 5 overseas players category.

I don't have any issue if they want to extend IPL to 3 months. But then they should not complain about new ICC tournaments. Because the BCCI last time stood against increasing the number of ICC tournaments (T20 world cup every two years, instead of four). And also, they should provide a part of their income to the ICC. Right now, the so called foreign player retention fee is pocketed by 3-4 countries such as Australia, England and West Indies. The ICC needs to distribute this fund evenly among the member states. And regarding associate players, the franchises don't prefer such players, no matter how talented they are.

ICC did try to pull this card of sharing IPL revenue. BCCI simply said them to fuck off unofficially.

I'm out of touch in recent updates but if i remember correctly then i think BCCI was against ICC event every year ( it wasn't related to T20 world cup every two years, instead of four) also i believe ICC already finalised the ICC event every year (Happy if someone correct me on this one?

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Quote from: JSRAW on June 08, 2022, 07:37:12 AM

They are planning to make IPL 90 days affairs from next year or so.

If by any chance this T-10 scenario ( it was supposed to be a joke on how BCCI hijacked the T-20 format completely) pans out then BCCI will push for another 1 month dedicated window for T-10 format.

I would love to see representation from associate nations too in 5 overseas players category.

I don't have any issue if they want to extend IPL to 3 months. But then they should not complain about new ICC tournaments. Because the BCCI last time stood against increasing the number of ICC tournaments (T20 world cup every two years, instead of four). And also, they should provide a part of their income to the ICC. Right now, the so called foreign player retention fee is pocketed by 3-4 countries such as Australia, England and West Indies. The ICC needs to distribute this fund evenly among the member states. And regarding associate players, the franchises don't prefer such players, no matter how talented they are.

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Quote from: Haunebu on June 08, 2022, 02:11:10 PM

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In the future, T10 may become the preferred format and T20 may face the same fate as that of test cricket and ODI. Nowadays viewers want maximum action within a short duration, and T10 is very much suited for that purpose. And who knows? It may make cricket more popular in markets such as USA and Japan, where baseball is dominant.

I don't think the T-20 format will disappear anytime soon even after T-10 becomes more popular since there are a large section of fans currently who are actually willing to watch them from start to finish.

Quote from: JSRAW on June 08, 2022, 03:31:52 AM

There is no need to change any rule imo. Quick solution would be.

Organise the T-10 WC and in the very first edition let India-Pakistan to qualify for the finals, followed by India winning by fine margin. Voila!! Grin

After that BCCI will take care of everything.

Lol. A better solution would be to host global matches like before(Asia vs Rest of the World). This is similar to royal rumble matches in the WWE.

I wouldn’t be surprised if T10 became popular in the future, but I feel that 10 overs are too less for a proper entertaining match and hence I believe that T20 will survive in the long term too. @JSRAW both the current India and Pakistan team are strong so they could definitely make it to the finals of a T10 World Cup in a hypothetical scenario, but BCCI won’t launch T10 because smaller format means less ad revenues for BCCI.

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