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August 06, 2023, 07:06:50 PM
#43
Your reference doesn't lead to anything about fake profiles that I can see. Did I miss miss something? The fake team deal?
You didn't miss anything. Saying fake profiles was wrong I should've said fake team.



They gave an explanation and got the benefit of doubt and were running the casino in an honest manner. If they had scam accusations pop in and couldn't accurately defend themselves, things may have went differently.
If they planned it from the very beginning it's disappointing they weren't shackled when under suspicion in 2019. The benefit of doubt led them running a long scam.

I've found the link. So this post's where the betnomi[dot]com & betnomi[dot]bet connections were made. I've checked the sites seconds ago the [dot]bet version's operating but [dot]com isn't. If we're aware they're behind both websites why'd they keep one open but close the other? They've got the software so they can open clones under new logos. It's a strange way to scam if they're telling ppl where to find their next scam.

Hello everyone, we are back in the forum after a few months of silence.
In this time period, we have been developing from scratch our new gaming platform to address all the issues with the old platform.
With our new platform, we hope to deliver an experience second to none.

We are currently in a soft launch (beta mode) so, still collecting data/feedbacks and updating the system
After a few weeks, we will do an official announcement for the launch.

Unfortunately, we are not going to be exporting data from the old platform
and that means you would have to create a new account to access the new platform.

You can access the old platform at http://betnomi.bet to retrieve your information and withdraw your funds if you have any.


Our team will remain active in the forum moving forward and answer all your questions.
  
Thank you all for the support.
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August 06, 2023, 07:03:33 PM
#42
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This was a particularly long-lasting scam... they must have found that running a casino somewhat honestly was profitable, so they kept it going for a long while, until it wasn't. It still goes to show that the warning signs were indeed there from the very beginning.
They've used fake profiles so it should've been the end of them using in the forum when they were exposed in 2021. Why wasn't Betnomi booted from the forum if warning signs were there from the very beginning. Could it be they've gained trusts because of sig campaigns and paying for competitions?


Come on, this thread is not even two pages long. Almost like what my previous post and reply to you on this same thread said, this time, if you bother to read the references on the trust page where the link of "fake profile" you gave redirect us to, you'll understand that the person you quoted, nutildah, is one that's very familiar with that fake profile information you gave. Or... even better, if you tried to carefully read the threads you're about to post, any threads in the future, you won't ended up like a spammer which ironically you quoted as deleting their post when warned and pointed out.

Now, as for why they're not "booted" from the forum, it's because forum does not moderate scam activities. And to answer your question of could it be... again, the opening post made by OP has described the possible reason; they build their trust for a slow rug pull.
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August 06, 2023, 06:31:26 PM
#41
My advice to campaign managers is to ensure they already have sufficient fund to run a week from the organizations through their representatives in other not to put their participants on hold after they might have worked but not received pay, isn't it better to always hold than running a week at your own risk, but i think some representatives were actually promising at their words, they don't owe managers even though they were unreached, they will definitely pay every week started to their participants.
What value are you actually bringing to this thread? You're talking about funding for a sig campaign and what managers should be doing(BTW they know what they should be doing) when the thread is about Betnomi exit scamming.

Go get your post quota elsewhere!!
He's deleted the post after you've told him.

This was a particularly long-lasting scam... they must have found that running a casino somewhat honestly was profitable, so they kept it going for a long while, until it wasn't. It still goes to show that the warning signs were indeed there from the very beginning.
They've used fake profiles so it should've been the end of them using in the forum when they were exposed in 2021. Why wasn't Betnomi booted from the forum if warning signs were there from the very beginning. Could it be they've gained trusts because of sig campaigns and paying for competitions?

Your reference doesn't lead to anything about fake profiles that I can see. Did I miss miss something? The fake team deal?

They gave an explanation and got the benefit of doubt and were running the casino in an honest manner. If they had scam accusations pop in and couldn't accurately defend themselves, things may have went differently.
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August 06, 2023, 04:48:38 PM
#40
My advice to campaign managers is to ensure they already have sufficient fund to run a week from the organizations through their representatives in other not to put their participants on hold after they might have worked but not received pay, isn't it better to always hold than running a week at your own risk, but i think some representatives were actually promising at their words, they don't owe managers even though they were unreached, they will definitely pay every week started to their participants.
What value are you actually bringing to this thread? You're talking about funding for a sig campaign and what managers should be doing(BTW they know what they should be doing) when the thread is about Betnomi exit scamming.

Go get your post quota elsewhere!!
He's deleted the post after you've told him.

This was a particularly long-lasting scam... they must have found that running a casino somewhat honestly was profitable, so they kept it going for a long while, until it wasn't. It still goes to show that the warning signs were indeed there from the very beginning.
They've used fake profiles so it should've been the end of them using in the forum when they were exposed in 2021. Why wasn't Betnomi booted from the forum if warning signs were there from the very beginning. Could it be they've gained trusts because of sig campaigns and paying for competitions?
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August 06, 2023, 07:57:17 AM
#39
Is it 'no one' or 'everyone'?

It's obviously "everyone". Thanks for pointing that out, I've edited it.
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August 06, 2023, 06:35:16 AM
#38
Lol. Since you could play poker at Betnomi, I was thinking of something like being good at cards, not this kind of fraud.
But you are innocent here with your carding skill in a table game Tongue.

I dont know if they are classic exit scam because I dont see many people complaining they lost money on betnomi, and I agree with people who say they had bad management.
Several forum members have said that they had small funds on Betnomi, but they won't take any action as the amount is small. You are one of them too. BTW, every victim doesn't know about Bitcointalk. And some of them eagerly waiting for Betnomi to come back as they had created similar situation before. As a result, we aren't seeing a lot of complaints here.
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August 05, 2023, 04:18:11 PM
#37
Can you also send me the name of the casino in PM? I will try to help you if I can.
Sure.
I sent you the same message like all other members who asked for it.
There are some connections between them but I am not sure if they are owned by same guys or not, so this needs to be investigated better and they slowly started to remove evidence.
I dont know if they are classic exit scam because I dont see many people complaining they lost money on betnomi, and I agree with people who say they had bad management.
I can add they had very bad security so dont be surprised if you receive calls from unknown guys with strange accents, if you had verified betnomi account.

One of the employees of Betnomi had posted some screenshot of the conversation with Sorsis in 2020. Where Sorsis said that he "was carding over 18k USD worth of items weekly". Sorsis also claimed that he had compromised 28k computers by creating a rat (remote access trojan).
It would not be the first time to see criminals trying to move money in more legal businesses and later shutting down all companies.
I saw many examples with scammers doing crypto, ICO and gambling.


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August 05, 2023, 03:14:06 AM
#36
[...] Who's behind the Betnomi.bet website? If it's the same team they're making a mistake using Betnomi's name again because ppl won't get trapped again.

[...]

If you bother to read the entire post you quoted, or read other threads related to this case, you'll understand that betnomi[dot]bet was one of their older domain

[...]

Users data was moved to a dummy website Betnomi.bet and wiped from Betnomi.com:
In the October month of 2021, Betnomi team had registered a new domain Betnomi.bet and moved the Betnomi.com database in it. They had wiped all the data from Betnomi.com after moving it into Betnomi.bet. As a result, Betnomi.com became like a new platform and old affiliate partners had lost all the affiliate benefits. (Read here)

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August 04, 2023, 04:39:43 PM
#35
This Edge Function has crashed message hasn't been replaced the site isn't working.



Betnomi.com were famous. They've sponsored threads they've used sig campaigns so if they've scammed it's sad because ppl trusted them. Who's behind the Betnomi.bet website? If it's the same team they're making a mistake using Betnomi's name again because ppl won't get trapped again.

What happened: Betnomi.com went down for 'scheduled maintenance' on the 2nd July without any prior notice. One month has been passed, yet there is no official announcement about the downtime and the users stuck funds. Betnomi.com is showing this message since 25th July: 'This Edge Function has crashed'. Perhaps, the administrators have taken down the website intentionally. A small number of users have complained about stuck funds on Betnomi here in the forum.
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August 04, 2023, 02:31:22 PM
#34
Can you explain what exactly "carding skills" means on this context, please?
Here is it

What Is Carding?
Carding is a general fraudster term for using stolen credit and debit card data for personal gain – which can be selling the data, using them to buy goods, or using them to power further fraud.

One of the employees of Betnomi had posted some screenshot of the conversation with Sorsis in 2020. Where Sorsis said that he "was carding over 18k USD worth of items weekly". Sorsis also claimed that he had compromised 28k computers by creating a rat (remote access trojan).

I'm amazed by this number, which means that not only this guy was genius (in terms of being a scammer) by stealing the users' credit card data they would be using on the gambling site (it was allowed to deposit via CC on their site IIRC) or he'd have lots of other stuff where he'd have been selling something and stealing the data, and that trojan is also a part of that steal (by getting the access of PCs) as he'd have sold all that data online to various customers and made enough from there too. The world of internet has become too much evil.  Sad
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August 04, 2023, 11:29:42 AM
#33
Stayzor has made his own accusation thread about his case with Betnomi, here. OP, you probably should edit your opening post and change the link to his case from the existing one [which redirect to his post on one of thread about Betnomi] to his specific accusation thread. This thread might could serve as an "index" for the cases against Betnomi.
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August 04, 2023, 06:20:00 AM
#32
Carding as in copying/duplicating credit cards and "getting 18k worth of goods a month".

What Is Carding?
Carding is a general fraudster term for using stolen credit and debit card data for personal gain – which can be selling the data, using them to buy goods, or using them to power further fraud.

One of the employees of Betnomi had posted some screenshot of the conversation with Sorsis in 2020. Where Sorsis said that he "was carding over 18k USD worth of items weekly". Sorsis also claimed that he had compromised 28k computers by creating a rat (remote access trojan).

Lol. Since you could play poker at Betnomi, I was thinking of something like being good at cards, not this kind of fraud.

I imagine they took advantage of the "no one everyone is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt," which I've been talking about lately on the forum.
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August 04, 2023, 05:06:21 AM
#31
Let's have a look into some other and old facts regarding Betnomi.

Fake team:
The first complaint was raised in 2019 against Betnomi team. It was related to the fake team and fake ICO project. A flag was created against them, and Betnomi representative had received some negative feedbacks too. But the flag was withdrawn later and some negative feedback was turned into neutral. Betnomi team had solved it by sending PM to some forum members and by running a review campaign.
Actually, running a review campaign shouldn't be a solution and I personally think that overall, giving a second chance is a bad decision, it looks like giving a second bullet to someone after avoiding the first shot.
I saw the archive of original scam accusation thread, they shouldn't be forgiven for what they did!
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August 04, 2023, 04:58:40 AM
#30
Can you explain what exactly "carding skills" means on this context, please?
Here is it

What Is Carding?
Carding is a general fraudster term for using stolen credit and debit card data for personal gain – which can be selling the data, using them to buy goods, or using them to power further fraud.

One of the employees of Betnomi had posted some screenshot of the conversation with Sorsis in 2020. Where Sorsis said that he "was carding over 18k USD worth of items weekly". Sorsis also claimed that he had compromised 28k computers by creating a rat (remote access trojan).
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August 04, 2023, 04:48:17 AM
#29
You GOSUS (ehm, GUYS) might wanna take a look at this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5290792 Wink
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August 04, 2023, 04:43:55 AM
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Carding as in copying/duplicating credit cards and "getting 18k worth of goods a month".

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August 04, 2023, 02:26:57 AM
#27
The exit scam of Betnomi won't be a big thing for Sorsis if his carding story is true. There is no way to verify anything until someone meet him in real life. He could be an idiot too, you will know everything before us if you take steps with the information which you have acquired.

- the bragging about carding skills, aka literally scamming people (crime)

Can you explain what exactly "carding skills" means on this context, please? Because I have carding skills and I don't scam anyone. I must be missing something here.
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August 03, 2023, 06:58:30 PM
#26
They planned the whole scam from day one... We only got fooled and accepted that they had reformed only to pull off an exit scam.

OP this is the archive to the erased OP of the thread - http://archive.is/NUdsW

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August 03, 2023, 02:10:51 PM
#25
Need to be an idiot to show your real data everywhere, be a resident of the USA (where they are quite strict about fraud) and at the same time think about Exit Scam.
The exit scam of Betnomi won't be a big thing for Sorsis if his carding story is true. There is no way to verify anything until someone meet him in real life. He could be an idiot too, you will know everything before us if you take steps with the information which you have acquired.

- the bragging about carding skills, aka literally scamming people (crime)
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August 03, 2023, 01:08:11 PM
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[...] and bragging about hacking and saying people "stalk" him because it is known that he has some over 20ish BTC
Can you point me to reference materials so that I can review this?

Since a year and a half of acquaintance with all kinds of dramas around Betnomi, I hear about this story for the first time.
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