Topic: The Thai Baht (฿) has always been the most frequently used Bitcoin symbol right? (Read 30426 times)
October 12, 2012, 11:12:59 AM
Touché
October 12, 2012, 10:17:15 AM
As the owner of www.bahtcoin.com I feel obliged to drop my 5 cents into the discussion. There is no BTC sign in the website at all.
Um, sure there is. Right there at the top of the page to the left of "bahtcoin". I don't see any other symbol for Bitcoin either.That looks like a logo/image to me. Even the filename, bahtcoin-logo.gif, indicates that.
You're being a pedant, Stn was clearly referring to the lack of any symbols adjacent to any of the numeric values for currency in baht.
October 12, 2012, 07:06:30 AM
As the owner of www.bahtcoin.com I feel obliged to drop my 5 cents into the discussion. There is no BTC sign in the website at all.
Um, sure there is. Right there at the top of the page to the left of "bahtcoin". I don't see any other symbol for Bitcoin either. October 12, 2012, 02:51:05 AM
Lets use the cross † as the bitcoin symbol. Who cares about christians? That religion is so insignificant on a global scale that I don't think adopting their symbol of faith would cause any harm or confusion.
The Baht is a religious symbol?
Bitcoin is.
October 11, 2012, 11:49:52 PM
As the owner of www.bahtcoin.com I feel obliged to drop my 5 cents into the discussion. There is no BTC sign in the website at all. And not for the reason to avoid confusions. We are here in Thailand do not use this sign in everyday life. It can be seen as a decorative or idiomatic element on billboards or signage, but in everyday life texts, price tags -- none. Or extremely rare.
Those signs are merely convenient and used in the environment where several units involved (dollar, cent, pound, shilling, guinea). Or maybe in third world countries where many currencies rotated simultaneously. Thailand is neither of them. It is has stable local currency and units are small (1 Baht ~ 1/30 US dollar) to avoid operations in fraction units (though formally it exists 1 Baht = 100 Satang). So whatever money amount written always means Thai Baht by default.
So I bless you to use whatever sign you like even BTC. No big deal. It won't be any confusion anyway. And when you use really many currencies (particulary in Bitcoin context) you may see that not all of them has distinctive signs. Even large ones like Russian Ruble, Chinese Yuan. Imagine how odd they would look in such list for instance: www.centraw.com/?page=rates You will have to avoid using signs for the sake of uniformity. Three-letter codes are absolutely fine in all cases and well cosmopolitan.
Those signs are merely convenient and used in the environment where several units involved (dollar, cent, pound, shilling, guinea). Or maybe in third world countries where many currencies rotated simultaneously. Thailand is neither of them. It is has stable local currency and units are small (1 Baht ~ 1/30 US dollar) to avoid operations in fraction units (though formally it exists 1 Baht = 100 Satang). So whatever money amount written always means Thai Baht by default.
So I bless you to use whatever sign you like even BTC. No big deal. It won't be any confusion anyway. And when you use really many currencies (particulary in Bitcoin context) you may see that not all of them has distinctive signs. Even large ones like Russian Ruble, Chinese Yuan. Imagine how odd they would look in such list for instance: www.centraw.com/?page=rates You will have to avoid using signs for the sake of uniformity. Three-letter codes are absolutely fine in all cases and well cosmopolitan.
October 11, 2012, 11:10:44 PM
Orbitz operates solely in the United States, therefore is clearly in the jurisdiction of the US.
I'm not in the United States yet I can purchase from Orbitz.
October 11, 2012, 09:33:39 PM
If the store is clearly in the jurisdiction of either Canada or the US, then there is no contest. Duty-free shops, shops on the border, and online shops all (no exceptions) list US $ or CA $.
You mean like this online shop?
http://tinyurl.com/92nu4rm
I see dollar signs everywhere but no indication of USD vs CAD.
Orbitz operates solely in the United States, therefore is clearly in the jurisdiction of the US.
October 11, 2012, 09:30:27 PM
The examples Luke-Jr posted (including the page specifically created for this he linked) don't look very good on my system either (more like a B with a single vertical line but farther to the right than the Baht symbol). Of all of the single-character symbol options posted here, I don't see any significant reasons that ฿ or Ƀ can't be used. I agree that the confusion with the other currency using that symbol would be minimal - I am more than used to seeing things listed with three letter codes in addition to currency symbols for clarity (e.g., $15 USD) and in fact use that myself anytime there is any possibility of confusion. At the same time, I think the need for a single-character symbol is grossly overstated. It's not a crisis that we don't have a standard symbol that can be used on any system - I use "BTC" to denote the currency anyway because I think it's easier. And "BTC" will work on most any system widely used, for obvious reasons.
October 11, 2012, 09:27:00 PM
If the store is clearly in the jurisdiction of either Canada or the US, then there is no contest. Duty-free shops, shops on the border, and online shops all (no exceptions) list US $ or CA $.
You mean like this online shop?
http://tinyurl.com/92nu4rm
I see dollar signs everywhere but no indication of USD vs CAD.
October 11, 2012, 09:17:48 PM
So I wandered off and found a TTF which supports U+20E6 (Code2000) and install it. After doing so all my other fonts "miraculously" start supporting that character. *Sigh*.
No they don't. It's just that whenever your computer tries to display a character that is not present in the selected font, it'll try to substitue a font that does have the character (if you actually have such a font installed). Note that a substitute font is only needed for the combining double vertical stroke, so the B will still be displayed in the original font, though the two characters might not align correctly in that case.Yep, that appears to be exactly what happened (tripling the font size in a test made it easier to see). Thanks. That also explains why other users have the double vertical stroke further to the right, which doesn't look as good.
October 11, 2012, 06:39:55 PM
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
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Section 74.05 of the Competition Act is a civil provision. It prohibits the sale or rent of a product at a price higher than its advertised price. The provision does not apply if the advertised price was a mistake and the error was immediately corrected.
Well, then it's a good thing the Canadian dollar is finally near parity to the US dollar. There must have been a lot of prosecutions all those years when the canadian dollar was so much cheaper.... since they both use the dollar sign and all.
October 11, 2012, 05:50:11 PM
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
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Section 74.05 of the Competition Act is a civil provision. It prohibits the sale or rent of a product at a price higher than its advertised price. The provision does not apply if the advertised price was a mistake and the error was immediately corrected.
Well, then it's a good thing the Canadian dollar is finally near parity to the US dollar. There must have been a lot of prosecutions all those years when the canadian dollar was so much cheaper.... since they both use the dollar sign and all.
October 11, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
The ignorance in this thread is appalling.
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
The advertised prices may indeed be mistakes, as the business had not intended to sell the items at a bargain price. However, unless these errors are corrected as soon as someone complains, huge fines can result.
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
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Section 74.05 of the Competition Act is a civil provision. It prohibits the sale or rent of a product at a price higher than its advertised price. The provision does not apply if the advertised price was a mistake and the error was immediately corrected.
If a court determines that a person has engaged in conduct contrary to section 74.05, it may order the person not to engage in such conduct, to publish a corrective notice and/or to pay an administrative monetary penalty of up to $750,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by an individual and $10,000,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by a corporation. For subsequent orders, the penalties increase to a maximum of $1,000,000 in the case of an individual and $15,000,000 in the case of a corporation.
If a court determines that a person has engaged in conduct contrary to section 74.05, it may order the person not to engage in such conduct, to publish a corrective notice and/or to pay an administrative monetary penalty of up to $750,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by an individual and $10,000,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by a corporation. For subsequent orders, the penalties increase to a maximum of $1,000,000 in the case of an individual and $15,000,000 in the case of a corporation.
The advertised prices may indeed be mistakes, as the business had not intended to sell the items at a bargain price. However, unless these errors are corrected as soon as someone complains, huge fines can result.
No, dree12, a Canadian court would not rule a BTC pricing as a Thai Baht pricing if the intent was clearly a BTC transactions or vice-versa. If your courts did, you have bigger problems.
October 11, 2012, 03:42:06 PM
The ignorance in this thread is appalling.
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
The advertised prices may indeed be mistakes, as the business had not intended to sell the items at a bargain price. However, unless these errors are corrected as soon as someone complains, huge fines can result.
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
Quote
Section 74.05 of the Competition Act is a civil provision. It prohibits the sale or rent of a product at a price higher than its advertised price. The provision does not apply if the advertised price was a mistake and the error was immediately corrected.
If a court determines that a person has engaged in conduct contrary to section 74.05, it may order the person not to engage in such conduct, to publish a corrective notice and/or to pay an administrative monetary penalty of up to $750,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by an individual and $10,000,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by a corporation. For subsequent orders, the penalties increase to a maximum of $1,000,000 in the case of an individual and $15,000,000 in the case of a corporation.
If a court determines that a person has engaged in conduct contrary to section 74.05, it may order the person not to engage in such conduct, to publish a corrective notice and/or to pay an administrative monetary penalty of up to $750,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by an individual and $10,000,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by a corporation. For subsequent orders, the penalties increase to a maximum of $1,000,000 in the case of an individual and $15,000,000 in the case of a corporation.
The advertised prices may indeed be mistakes, as the business had not intended to sell the items at a bargain price. However, unless these errors are corrected as soon as someone complains, huge fines can result.
No, dree12, a Canadian court would not rule a BTC pricing as a Thai Baht pricing if the intent was clearly a BTC transactions or vice-versa. If your courts did, you have bigger problems.
October 11, 2012, 03:37:40 PM
The ignorance in this thread is appalling.
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
The advertised prices may indeed be mistakes, as the business had not intended to sell the items at a bargain price. However, unless these errors are corrected as soon as someone complains, huge fines can result.
What many fail to realize is the severity of using the baht sign to represent Bitcoin. Canadian law is not Thai law, but it has to be pretty similar:
Quote
Section 74.05 of the Competition Act is a civil provision. It prohibits the sale or rent of a product at a price higher than its advertised price. The provision does not apply if the advertised price was a mistake and the error was immediately corrected.
If a court determines that a person has engaged in conduct contrary to section 74.05, it may order the person not to engage in such conduct, to publish a corrective notice and/or to pay an administrative monetary penalty of up to $750,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by an individual and $10,000,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by a corporation. For subsequent orders, the penalties increase to a maximum of $1,000,000 in the case of an individual and $15,000,000 in the case of a corporation.
If a court determines that a person has engaged in conduct contrary to section 74.05, it may order the person not to engage in such conduct, to publish a corrective notice and/or to pay an administrative monetary penalty of up to $750,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by an individual and $10,000,000 in the case of a first time occurrence by a corporation. For subsequent orders, the penalties increase to a maximum of $1,000,000 in the case of an individual and $15,000,000 in the case of a corporation.
The advertised prices may indeed be mistakes, as the business had not intended to sell the items at a bargain price. However, unless these errors are corrected as soon as someone complains, huge fines can result.
October 11, 2012, 03:14:34 PM
Lets use the cross † as the bitcoin symbol. Who cares about christians? That religion is so insignificant on a global scale that I don't think adopting their symbol of faith would cause any harm or confusion.
The Baht is a religious symbol?
October 11, 2012, 03:01:55 PM
With no offece to Thais, who cares about Thailand? That country is so insignificant in global scale, that I don't think adopting their currency symbol would cause any harm or confusion,
I care about Thais, they have good hookers and food. It would cause me considerable harm and confusion when paying for said food and hookers.
While I realize the following statement is a troll... and perhaps your comment was also a troll.... Allow me to change a couple words...
Lets use the cross † as the bitcoin symbol. Who cares about christians? That religion is so insignificant on a global scale that I don't think adopting their symbol of faith would cause any harm or confusion.
October 11, 2012, 02:34:13 PM
So I wandered off and found a TTF which supports U+20E6 (Code2000) and install it. After doing so all my other fonts "miraculously" start supporting that character. *Sigh*.
No they don't. It's just that whenever your computer tries to display a character that is not present in the selected font, it'll try to substitue a font that does have the character (if you actually have such a font installed). Note that a substitute font is only needed for the combining double vertical stroke, so the B will still be displayed in the original font, though the two characters might not align correctly in that case. 
October 11, 2012, 11:21:46 AM
I honestly don't get the problem with using the Thai Baht (฿).
The resuse confusion argument holds no water given with how many times the dollar sign ($) is reused.
Then I suppose if we use the $ sign for Bitcoin, we'll fit right in?The resuse confusion argument holds no water given with how many times the dollar sign ($) is reused.
With no offece to Thais, who cares about Thailand? That country is so insignificant in global scale, that I don't think adopting their currency symbol would cause any harm or confusion, if anything, they should be proud that their symbol was chosen to represent Bitcoin. If reuse of $ in handful of other countries is not a problem for dollar, why all of a sudden it's a problem for Bitcoin? The reason I support ฿ is simply because it works right now for everyone, everywhere (web, apps, text). Hard to grasp why people are inventing and pushing for solutions that don't work for 97% of users or look like shit (hey Ⓑ), or look nothing like bitcoin (ß Б Ъ Ѣ).
Alternatively, support decentralization, choose what the fuck you want.
October 11, 2012, 10:06:18 AM
I honestly don't get the problem with using the Thai Baht (฿).
The resuse confusion argument holds no water given with how many times the dollar sign ($) is reused.
Then I suppose if we use the $ sign for Bitcoin, we'll fit right in?The resuse confusion argument holds no water given with how many times the dollar sign ($) is reused.
Sure. But the Baht is only used for once currency now, the dollar sign is used by 15 or so. Seems to make more sense to give the Baht a second one than the Dollar a sixteenth.
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