Topic: The Thai Baht (฿) has always been the most frequently used Bitcoin symbol right? - page 7. (Read 30426 times)
October 04, 2012, 02:41:14 PM
Seems to work fine. I just copied a BTC from my broswer into an ANSI encoded text document and it autoresolved to "BTC".
October 04, 2012, 02:35:02 PM
This is a bad idea, because the browser isn't guaranteed to copy the invisible TC.
Are you sure? The characters are "visible", but the font defines them to have zero width.
October 04, 2012, 02:32:02 PM
It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC.
Actually, BTC is the characters "BTC" with the B made to look like BTC and the "TC" invisible (using webfonts). So you can copy/paste it without losing meaning, even if Unicode isn't fully-supported.
October 04, 2012, 01:11:06 PM
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Websites and websites, I want bitcoin symbol in my text files, dammit!
October 04, 2012, 11:19:23 AM
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Websites and websites, I want bitcoin symbol in my text files, dammit!
October 04, 2012, 11:14:23 AM
Technically speaking, BitcoinTalk is using a "webfont" for this, not a regular image.
You're asking to install custom font, just to have currency symbol properly displayed in a spreadsheet or email. How many people are going to do that? Think about it. The web is easier as this only has to be done once per site, but that's one extra uneccesary step. We should make life easier, not harder.
Point is, it doesn't work for majority of users here with modern computers and modern, very popular, operating systems who also happen to have technical skills way above the average. If it doesn't work for us, it won't work for general population, period.
And that's why most Bitcoin websites are still using images for the BTC symbol... October 04, 2012, 10:42:36 AM
It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC.
Actually, BTC is the characters "BTC" with the B made to look like BTC and the "TC" invisible (using webfonts). So you can copy/paste it without losing meaning, even if Unicode isn't fully-supported.
October 04, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
I didn't need to "get a font". Ubuntu 12.04, works out of the box. What OS are you using?
Doesn't work for me. Ubuntu 12.04 32bit with Firefox, fresh install as of today, and most of these fonts are a b-box, except for ฿ and Ƀ.
October 04, 2012, 10:22:43 AM
Technically speaking, BitcoinTalk is using a "webfont" for this, not a regular image.
You're asking to install custom font, just to have currency symbol properly displayed in a spreadsheet or email. How many people are going to do that? Think about it. The web is easier as this only has to be done once per site, but that's one extra uneccesary step. We should make life easier, not harder.
and not being displayed properly on my unicode friendly win7 machine, despite 64bit processor and 8gb of ram.
Obviously not very Unicode-friendly, if it can't display Unicode.Point is, it doesn't work for majority of users here with modern computers and modern, very popular, operating systems who also happen to have technical skills way above the average. If it doesn't work for us, it won't work for general population, period.
October 04, 2012, 10:03:45 AM
B⃦ is itself a single character, even if comprised of two codepoints.
It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC.
Using multiple codepoints for a single character is not new.
It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC.
Using multiple codepoints for a single character is not new.
I am now on a completely different computer than yesterday. Your B-Box now shows up as a B with two feet.
I have also had a look at your B-Box via Chrome on a GNex with Jelly Bean. Your B-Box there shows up as a B. Just a B.
October 04, 2012, 09:57:24 AM
We use Ƀ
October 04, 2012, 09:54:56 AM
The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?).
Yep. Unicode defines symbols like this using "combining" characters (the "already combined" characters exist only for compatibility with legacy encodings such as Latin-1), so for B⃦ you do:This works to some extent for all possible combinations (apparently some people are getting blocks, though?).From there, fonts can specialize with "ligatures" (renderings that represent a sequence of characters) - which is where things can definitely use improvement.
Ok, so now I know why it looks shitty on my and many other systems. The vertical strokes are in different places depending on the program I use. In my chromium browser they are too far right and in gedit they are in addition to far right too short.
Knowing it is actually a double-symbol makes me all the more favor any of the single-symbols that at least should look consistent on all systems that manage to display something:
฿ or Ƀ.
The $ symbol being used for many many currencies should be reason enough to not have a problem recycling the Baht symbol for Bitcoin. Here in Chile they also use $ for Chilean Pesos.
October 04, 2012, 09:44:34 AM
BTC853 - stands out only because it looks bolded, so sucks anyway (being an image earns three bonus sucks)
Technically speaking, BitcoinTalk is using a "webfont" for this, not a regular image.B⃦ sucks extra hard for being 2 chars (we invented new problems for you!)
B⃦ is itself a single character, even if comprised of two codepoints.It's also the same character the forum is using a webfont to render in BTC.
Using multiple codepoints for a single character is not new.
and not being displayed properly on my unicode friendly win7 machine, despite 64bit processor and 8gb of ram.
Obviously not very Unicode-friendly, if it can't display Unicode. October 04, 2012, 09:28:12 AM
All of them suck IMHO because they resemble digit 8 too closely. When put next to amount, it takes a little bit of brain power to separate symbol from value:
฿485 - striked 8, still reads as 8, too busy in general
Ƀ249 - bit better as Ƀ is slightly taller than other chars
BTC853 - stands out only because it looks bolded, so sucks anyway (being an image earns three bonus sucks)
B⃦ sucks extra hard for being 2 chars (we invented new problems for you!) and not being displayed properly on my unicode friendly win7 machine, despite 64bit processor and 8gb of ram. /s
How about Bitcoin, the currency of unconditional love: ❤256
฿485 - striked 8, still reads as 8, too busy in general
Ƀ249 - bit better as Ƀ is slightly taller than other chars
BTC853 - stands out only because it looks bolded, so sucks anyway (being an image earns three bonus sucks)
B⃦ sucks extra hard for being 2 chars (we invented new problems for you!) and not being displayed properly on my unicode friendly win7 machine, despite 64bit processor and 8gb of ram. /s
How about Bitcoin, the currency of unconditional love: ❤256
October 04, 2012, 07:03:40 AM
Coming from someone promoting Bitcoin as a tool for illegal activities (and thus harming Bitcoin), I guess I should take this as a compliment...
You seem a little nutty to me...
[A little nutty] * [all the people who think he's a little nutty] = [a shitload of nutty]
You guys... where can I get these fonts 
All I see is the baht and the "currency symbol." The rest are boxes and B-boxes.
I didn't need to "get a font". Ubuntu 12.04, works out of the box. What OS are you using? All I see is the baht and the "currency symbol." The rest are boxes and B-boxes.
October 03, 2012, 11:08:28 PM
Coming from someone promoting Bitcoin as a tool for illegal activities (and thus harming Bitcoin), I guess I should take this as a compliment...
You seem a little nutty to me...
[A little nutty] * [all the people who think he's a little nutty] = [a shitload of nutty]
October 03, 2012, 09:57:48 PM
You guys... where can I get these fonts
All I see is the baht and the "currency symbol." The rest are boxes and B-boxes.
All I see is the baht and the "currency symbol." The rest are boxes and B-boxes.
October 03, 2012, 09:33:50 PM
The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?).
Yep. Unicode defines symbols like this using "combining" characters (the "already combined" characters exist only for compatibility with legacy encodings such as Latin-1), so for B⃦ you do:This works to some extent for all possible combinations (apparently some people are getting blocks, though?).From there, fonts can specialize with "ligatures" (renderings that represent a sequence of characters) - which is where things can definitely use improvement.
October 03, 2012, 09:24:46 PM
Luke-Jr keeps changing it to some weird Russian symbol nobody uses on Wikipedia. It probably shows up as the Baht for him or something.
Um, no, I changed it to the symbol every major Bitcoin website uses - including bitcoin.org, bitcoincharts, and these forums - at least in their favicon: B⃦This is the standard Unicode symbol used for the B with double vertical strokes.
The forum has BTC using some CSS (embedded fonts) to workaround the fact that major fonts don't render it as nice, but it is the same symbol.
Anyways, we generally use the Thai Baht for Bitcoins, right?
฿ <- that right there
You must be confusing Bitcoin with Silk Road.฿ <- that right there
The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?).
October 03, 2012, 09:18:45 PM
Luke-Jr keeps changing it to some weird Russian symbol nobody uses on Wikipedia. It probably shows up as the Baht for him or something.
Um, no, I changed it to the symbol every major Bitcoin website uses - including bitcoin.org, bitcoincharts, and these forums - at least in their favicon: B⃦This is the standard Unicode symbol used for the B with double vertical strokes.
The forum has BTC using some CSS (embedded fonts) to workaround the fact that major fonts don't render it as nice, but it is the same symbol.
Anyways, we generally use the Thai Baht for Bitcoins, right?
฿ <- that right there
You must be confusing Bitcoin with Silk Road.฿ <- that right there
The B double vertical strokes is a Unicode symbol? What is its code? I can't find it on any list of Unicode symbols (maybe I'm not looking in the right place?).
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