Pages:
Author

Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 7. (Read 100745 times)

hero member
Activity: 1302
Merit: 503
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
December 28, 2024, 09:53:20 PM
Got a crazy question, since we are talking UFC and other promotions. Which fighter from other promotion you wish UFC would sign or resign ? Cheesy What about Usman Nurmagomedov from Bellator ? Get Ryan Bader back ? Cris Cyborg from PFL ? Or Anatoly Malykhin from One FC ? Or you think UFC has enough fighters and no one should be signed ?
I only interested in Usman Nurmagomedov and also Anatoly Malykhin for fighters who might be able to get deal with UFC in the future.
Reading from various media sources, Usman Nurmagomedov does have desire to move to UFC but is waiting for Islam Makhachev to retire, I don't know whether this is true or not but I like the Russian fighters in UFC because they can always make the fight crazy and really interesting.
For Anatoly Malykhin himself, he is champion in three weight classes at once, he is very strong and if he enters the UFC it might be worrying for the heavyweight division fighters because Anatoly Malykhin will be very likely to be challenger who really makes it difficult for anyone.
If these two fighters can enter the UFC, I sure they will be new faces that are loved by many people.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
December 28, 2024, 07:23:06 AM
Got a crazy question, since we are talking UFC and other promotions. Which fighter from other promotion you wish UFC would sign or resign ? Cheesy What about Usman Nurmagomedov from Bellator ? Get Ryan Bader back ? Cris Cyborg from PFL ? Or Anatoly Malykhin from One FC ? Or you think UFC has enough fighters and no one should be signed ?
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
December 28, 2024, 06:47:15 AM
^  The PFL has Ngannou...  Why don't they make some noise by saying Jon Jones can't win vs him..?  Which could be true imho.

They could even play old Dana's interviews when he hinted that Jones was afraid to fight Ngannou. That would be a great PR play and it would be hard for Dana to respond to.
But maybe the PFL is hyping Francis up but we're not getting any feeds because of how algorithms work, i.e. they would only show you the UFC related news because that's what you were interested in the past, effectively creating a bubble.

Or maybe it's just that the PFL doesn't really have any idea for Francis, i.e. they simply don't have any suitable opponents after he demolished Ferreira. I'm reading that Francis is seeking for a rematch with Fury:
https://businessday.ng/sports/article/ngannou-rules-out-anthony-joshua-rematch-eyes-fury-showdown/
Quote
“A rematch with Joshua? I felt very off and not comfortable in that fight. It’s something that could happen, but what I do know for sure is I want the rematch with Fury,” Ngannou said.

I can't find any info on any plans for his next mma fight.

Yup..  But I don't really care what Dana White said or what Jones said or what Ngannou said...  That's all just the journos trying to get us to read their dumb articles which doesn't really help us in making our bets.  But I do admit it's all entertaining tho.  I just hope the guys who get in this thread are self aware enough to know that most of the stuff we read in the news are mostly junk.

But as for Jones vs Ngannou, I've already said more than a couple of times itt that I think Ngannou wins vs Jones if that fight happened.  At the back of my mind I think Dana White is relieved that he doesn't have to make the decision for a Jones - Ngannou match up.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 792
Watch Bitcoin Documentary - https://t.ly/v0Nim
December 27, 2024, 03:19:49 PM
^  The PFL has Ngannou...  Why don't they make some noise by saying Jon Jones can't win vs him..?  Which could be true imho. 
Jon Jones is ducking Tom Aspinall, he might easily duck him as well.

They could even play old Dana's interviews when he hinted that Jones was afraid to fight Ngannou. That would be a great PR play and it would be hard for Dana to respond to.
Jon Jones wasn't Dana White's boyfriend before (I mean, Dana always had a crush on him but he was Conor's sugar daddy for a long time). When Conor left Dana, Jon Jones became Dana White's BF and now Dana protects him to death. I don't know why Dana White admires Jon Jones till this day because the guy is soon going to retire but I know that he is fake. Dana White wants Jon Jones VS Tom Aspinall because Dana understands that Jones will retire soon and someone has to carry his legacy, someone who is young and will earn millions of dollars for Dana White. Who is a perfect candidate for that? Tom Aspinall. So Tom Aspinall will beat Jon Jones and he will become another superstar and Dana White will make money from him.

I also want to say that even if they replay Dana's old interview, Dana won't find it hard to respond to it. In UFC press conference, there is no censorship, so Dana will say something like F you for that question, like he said in previous press conference and will move on the next question.
hero member
Activity: 2800
Merit: 595
https://www.betcoin.ag
December 27, 2024, 11:44:05 AM
Dunno. Took first random fight from PFL, Ngannou vs Ferreira. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7WwjSPKvU for the PFL super fight heavyweight worlds championship. And before that fight, Ferreir "Won the PFL vs. Bellator Champion of Champions" Super Fights World Heavyweight Championship.". Doesnt it mean that they also claim their guys a champions of the wooooooorld? Cheesy

But I dont care much about who is more champion of the world, who deserves that title, or who should be simply a champion. I pay more attention to two guys trying to figure who is better Cheesy And who is not and who is a champ of the world, galaxy, universe, school, office, topic, that has stopped bothering me when I stopped arguing who is stronger, Terminator or John Rambo Cheesy

It should have been that way only. Only fighters fight each other but when DDP and then the rest of the Africans have issues, it makes it evident of this issue especially if Izzy waves the Chinese flag.  Grin  The nobility in bringing the flags they represent is thier pride. Have you noticed sportsmen meet their president when they become the pride of their country?

Ngannou vs Jones should be booked. It's not up to us though.  If Dana doesn't do it, ONEFC and PFL should do it and let thier champions fight each other.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
December 27, 2024, 08:52:37 AM
Everyone now will want a fight against Fury Cheesy He is beaten, probably in depression and crying somewhere, or destroying himself with alcohol and illegal stuff. Fury has a hit mark on his head, as previously undefeated champion now is in bad shape and easy target. Fury can now accept any challenge to restore or reset his career, but for many his is a big bag of money.

Enough of this boxing thing in this topic Cheesy Here are some year 2024 highlights in UFC https://www.ufc.com/news/a-year-of-style-and-storytelling-ufc-venum-unrivaled-fight-kits
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
December 27, 2024, 08:01:57 AM
^  The PFL has Ngannou...  Why don't they make some noise by saying Jon Jones can't win vs him..?  Which could be true imho.

They could even play old Dana's interviews when he hinted that Jones was afraid to fight Ngannou. That would be a great PR play and it would be hard for Dana to respond to.
But maybe the PFL is hyping Francis up but we're not getting any feeds because of how algorithms work, i.e. they would only show you the UFC related news because that's what you were interested in the past, effectively creating a bubble.

Or maybe it's just that the PFL doesn't really have any idea for Francis, i.e. they simply don't have any suitable opponents after he demolished Ferreira. I'm reading that Francis is seeking for a rematch with Fury:
https://businessday.ng/sports/article/ngannou-rules-out-anthony-joshua-rematch-eyes-fury-showdown/
Quote
“A rematch with Joshua? I felt very off and not comfortable in that fight. It’s something that could happen, but what I do know for sure is I want the rematch with Fury,” Ngannou said.

I can't find any info on any plans for his next mma fight.
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
December 27, 2024, 07:46:49 AM
^  The PFL has Ngannou...  Why don't they make some noise by saying Jon Jones can't win vs him..?  Which could be true imho. 

I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better. 

I do like to watch MMA also, but I care a lot about promotion Cheesy For me this is UFC and the rest. And those rest often dont match level of UFC. How many times I have seen when undefeated champion or a guy with perfect record is just beaten, but humiliated by UFC guy.




I know what you mean, but it's more about good match ups for me and the thing like 'styles make fights'.  That's why I find ONE FC more entertaining than Bellator or the PFL sometimes.  At ONE FC, Asian fighters mostly like to do stand up and less wrestling.  So there's more KO's and violence.  Bellator and the PFL is like the UFC but at a much lower level which is just hard to watch most of the time.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
December 27, 2024, 05:25:16 AM
Dunno. Took first random fight from PFL, Ngannou vs Ferreira. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox7WwjSPKvU for the PFL super fight heavyweight worlds championship. And before that fight, Ferreir "Won the PFL vs. Bellator Champion of Champions" Super Fights World Heavyweight Championship.". Doesnt it mean that they also claim their guys a champions of the wooooooorld? Cheesy

But I dont care much about who is more champion of the world, who deserves that title, or who should be simply a champion. I pay more attention to two guys trying to figure who is better Cheesy And who is not and who is a champ of the world, galaxy, universe, school, office, topic, that has stopped bothering me when I stopped arguing who is stronger, Terminator or John Rambo Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 2800
Merit: 595
https://www.betcoin.ag
December 26, 2024, 12:32:32 PM
I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better.  

I do like to watch MMA also, but I care a lot about promotion Cheesy For me this is UFC and the rest. And those rest often dont match level of UFC. How many times I have seen when undefeated champion or a guy with perfect record is just beaten, but humiliated by UFC guy.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

If you dont like that "of the wooooorld" thing and think that it should be "of the promoooootion" only, then go to any local martial art gym and you will find that world champ trains there. Each gym has a world of former world champ. Like world championships happen each weekend. Dont you find it confusing that there are so many active champions in same weight categories, and they all are called worlds champions? Cheesy

No, I don't have problems with their claims. I have problems with why PFL or ONE is not claiming their fighters as universe champions. If any promotions claim something else I guess its also their thing.

It somehow becomes an issue when some fighters are bringing their flags in having a grand entrance to the cage. That's why it was even stopped since then because it does create the idea that they are fighting for their country. These fighters wouldn't be doing it if Bruce Buffer won't mention the country they are from.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 115
December 26, 2024, 11:32:19 AM
Jon Jones almost crashed his $5m Bugatti. Jon Jones was a guest on Alex G Was Here and was in the driver's seat for a test drive.
He suddenly hit the gas pedal too hard and the car wobbled a bit. You could tell by the nervousness on his face that he was scared.
If he had a minor accident, he would have had to fight Tom Aspinall for the cost of the car. No one wants him to crash like that, for sure.
The Bugatti Chiron is not a car to be taken lightly. If I had the chance to drive it, I would probably think twice. Cheesy

legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
December 26, 2024, 07:41:56 AM
I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better. 

I do like to watch MMA also, but I care a lot about promotion Cheesy For me this is UFC and the rest. And those rest often dont match level of UFC. How many times I have seen when undefeated champion or a guy with perfect record is just beaten, but humiliated by UFC guy.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

If you dont like that "of the wooooorld" thing and think that it should be "of the promoooootion" only, then go to any local martial art gym and you will find that world champ trains there. Each gym has a world of former world champ. Like world championships happen each weekend. Dont you find it confusing that there are so many active champions in same weight categories, and they all are called worlds champions? Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
December 26, 2024, 07:23:48 AM
^  At the front of the camera, sure...  Behind it it's:  'Show me the money!'.  Wink

^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

^  And it just won't make any sense to do a co promotion with the B leagues of MMA.  It won't make enough money and it'll just ruin the UFC as a brand.  The UFC is obv fine as is.  They don't need the other leagues.  And if Dana White really wants to a talented PFL, Bellator, etc fighter to be in the cage vs a UFC fighter, he'll just acquire the fighter and let him join the UFC like he did recently with Asakura.  He also did it with Chandler and Michael Venom Page.  Grin

Anyway, the UFC won't be back til in a couple of weeks...  Hope the next event will deliver.  Already looking at  couple of underdogs.

Acquiring the talents from other promotions will cost him more than just fighting both champs, UFC champ vs Bellator Champ. No strings attached they need to agree on their cuts. Or there will be an organization just like how they did to boxing WBC, WBO, IBF, and so on.  

UFC can't just claim one fighter to be the GOAT or FW/WW/HW champion of the world when these fighters haven't fought the champ of other promotions. Because at the same time, other promotions are also claiming their champs as champions of the world like they live in  different world.

Maybe but from the UFC's point of view, doing a cross promotion event would hurt their brand as the organizations like Bellator, PFL, etc need the UFC more for a cross promotion events than the UFC needs them.  The UFC is just fine on its own and it's making a lot more money than the other organizations.  Now why would the UFC give them a favor by giving them a cut in the profit.

And as for claiming who's the best P4P fighter, the UFC doesn't choose who.  It's the journos that chooses in case you didn't know.  The UFC doesn't have direct influence in the process.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

The brand is always protected, UFC must have that sort of pride. The few other promotions are not catching up that's I guess the problem for those promotions and Dana is not going to just dive into any collaboration in the name of sport. As long as there are MMA fighters who need money that PFL or Bellator can't provide, UFC can always rescue them.



Then it's not the problem of the UFC and they don't have a problem.  The problem is with the other orgaanizations and other people who seem to criticize the UFC for what?  For being run by better people behind the scenes?  I mean if you hate the UFC just don't watch it and get the fck out.

And tbh, I'm not defending the UFC or Dana White.  I just like watching MMA and I don't care which org is better.  The thing I don't really like is all the whining.  I mean please...  Let's just talk about the match ups and try to make money from these fights,
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
December 26, 2024, 06:59:34 AM
^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

But isnt it really like this? First Merab was saying, that Umar hasnt fought anyone good and dont deserve a title fight. Also he used to sound that Umar is still a nobody, and he got all attention due to Nurmagomedov surname. Then Merab sounded like "Ok, I will fight him if you want it so much".

I like how they make that artificial conflict Grin

A: Repeat what you said about me?
B: What did I say?
A: You dont remember?
B: Dont.
A: Repeat! I demand it. You will be sorry.

I had such 1 vs 1 conversations in kindgergarten Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 2800
Merit: 595
https://www.betcoin.ag
December 25, 2024, 12:20:27 PM
^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

^  And it just won't make any sense to do a co promotion with the B leagues of MMA.  It won't make enough money and it'll just ruin the UFC as a brand.  The UFC is obv fine as is.  They don't need the other leagues.  And if Dana White really wants to a talented PFL, Bellator, etc fighter to be in the cage vs a UFC fighter, he'll just acquire the fighter and let him join the UFC like he did recently with Asakura.  He also did it with Chandler and Michael Venom Page.  Grin

Anyway, the UFC won't be back til in a couple of weeks...  Hope the next event will deliver.  Already looking at  couple of underdogs.

Acquiring the talents from other promotions will cost him more than just fighting both champs, UFC champ vs Bellator Champ. No strings attached they need to agree on their cuts. Or there will be an organization just like how they did to boxing WBC, WBO, IBF, and so on.  

UFC can't just claim one fighter to be the GOAT or FW/WW/HW champion of the world when these fighters haven't fought the champ of other promotions. Because at the same time, other promotions are also claiming their champs as champions of the world like they live in  different world.

Maybe but from the UFC's point of view, doing a cross promotion event would hurt their brand as the organizations like Bellator, PFL, etc need the UFC more for a cross promotion events than the UFC needs them.  The UFC is just fine on its own and it's making a lot more money than the other organizations.  Now why would the UFC give them a favor by giving them a cut in the profit.

And as for claiming who's the best P4P fighter, the UFC doesn't choose who.  It's the journos that chooses in case you didn't know.  The UFC doesn't have direct influence in the process.

What I mean is that when the referee raises the hand, while the man on the mic shouts " HW champion of the wooooorld".

The brand is always protected, UFC must have that sort of pride. The few other promotions are not catching up that's I guess the problem for those promotions and Dana is not going to just dive into any collaboration in the name of sport. As long as there are MMA fighters who need money that PFL or Bellator can't provide, UFC can always rescue them.

legendary
Activity: 3976
Merit: 1421
Life, Love and Laughter...
December 25, 2024, 06:49:10 AM
^  Lol at Merab is 'forced' to fight Umar.  That's actually the fight to make at 135.

^  And it just won't make any sense to do a co promotion with the B leagues of MMA.  It won't make enough money and it'll just ruin the UFC as a brand.  The UFC is obv fine as is.  They don't need the other leagues.  And if Dana White really wants to a talented PFL, Bellator, etc fighter to be in the cage vs a UFC fighter, he'll just acquire the fighter and let him join the UFC like he did recently with Asakura.  He also did it with Chandler and Michael Venom Page.  Grin

Anyway, the UFC won't be back til in a couple of weeks...  Hope the next event will deliver.  Already looking at  couple of underdogs.

Acquiring the talents from other promotions will cost him more than just fighting both champs, UFC champ vs Bellator Champ. No strings attached they need to agree on their cuts. Or there will be an organization just like how they did to boxing WBC, WBO, IBF, and so on.  

UFC can't just claim one fighter to be the GOAT or FW/WW/HW champion of the world when these fighters haven't fought the champ of other promotions. Because at the same time, other promotions are also claiming their champs as champions of the world like they live in  different world.

Maybe but from the UFC's point of view, doing a cross promotion event would hurt their brand as the organizations like Bellator, PFL, etc need the UFC more for a cross promotion events than the UFC needs them.  The UFC is just fine on its own and it's making a lot more money than the other organizations.  Now why would the UFC give them a favor by giving them a cut in the profit.

And as for claiming who's the best P4P fighter, the UFC doesn't choose who.  It's the journos that chooses in case you didn't know.  The UFC doesn't have direct influence in the process.
legendary
Activity: 2534
Merit: 1501
December 25, 2024, 05:56:35 AM
I would start by saying that despite Bones, Dana lover O’Malley Cheesy Look at Sterling, he was a champ, got 4 title defences (that is a record for that weight division if I am not wrong), losses to O’Malley and already fight in prelims after. Now I think thanks to Danas background games and plans, Merab is forced to fight Umar, I guess he will lose, and as a man who beat O’Malley, will be forgotten by big boss Cheesy

Btw, I also saw somewhere that Chandler will fight Pimblett. That is also amazing, as Chandler will inactive for years waiting for Conor. Now had a fight against Oliveira, then Pimblett. So much of Chandler lately Cheesy Good for his and his family.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1561
December 25, 2024, 05:40:07 AM
Why do you guys say that Dana hates Merab and DDP? I was unaware of that, nor did I hear him bad-mouthing any of them. Is it just an assumption, or did he actually express his dislike towards those two?


In other news, Paddy Pimblett is rumoured to face Michael Chandler as his next opponent, which could happen on March 22nd when the event is scheduled to take place in London.
https://bloodyelbow.com/2024/12/23/paddy-pimblett-drops-major-hint-regarding-next-potential-ufc-opponent-as-fight-announcement-looms/
This is only a speculation at this point, but I think it's a good match-up. Pimblett has earned his right to fight a top guy and Chandler, given his only win in the last 5 fights was over Tony Ferguson, should be fighting down against someone ranked below him, and Paddy is a perfect guy for him, as, despite being only ranked 13th, is still a big enough name.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 792
Watch Bitcoin Documentary - https://t.ly/v0Nim
December 24, 2024, 02:48:38 PM
After UFC 311 next event is also cool. We will have Adesanya vs Imavov. That will be a huge test for Imavov, and a first sign for Adesanya retirement and end of peak form, as this is first time he is facing highly above average opponent but not top of top.
Yes, UFC 312 will be amazing. Are you focused on Adesanya vs Imavov fight? Haha, I'm focused on DDP VS Strickland because DDP is one of my favorite fighter (partly because Dana hates him and I love everyone who scumbag Dana hates). By the way, DDP VS Strickland trashtalk was another level in UFC after Conor McGregor's trashtalks. DDP is a kind of guy who is silent and okay if you don't touch him but once you touch him, he becomes a savage. The way he trashtalked Strickland was brutal.

Here is the link to that legendary trash talk I'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFPITR269U8
-Dricus-: Bro, why you so angry? Bro, you think your dad beat the shit out of you? Your dad doesn't have a shit on me, I'm gonna show you what it's like to beat you
-Strickland-: Dricus
-Dricus-: All, every childhood memory you have is gonna come back when I'm in there with you. Every single one, the one where you lie at bed at night and your dad comes in and beats the shit out of you...

This speech is forever in my memory after watching this trash talk for the first time and these guys here tell me that it's hard to remember 12 words seed phrase for Electrum wallet.
Okay, I had some fun Cheesy


Also we spoke about Shara Bullet, his eye and possible ban in fighting in US or UFC, but he ie fighting against Page Cheesy
Shara Bullet is phenomenal. Look at this video, what a double spinning backfist. The guy has only one eye but his eyesight is as great as of Bald Eagle.
Is he Khabib's cousin too? He is Magomedov (Khabib is Nurma|Gomedov) and he is from Dagestan too. By the way, I'm impressed that there is someone from Dagestan who is a striker and not a wrestler. This country probably is doing some scientific experiment to produce the best warriors in the world.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 115
December 24, 2024, 01:25:56 PM
Yup, the Fight Night on 1 Feb in Saudi Arabia looks really decent.
It will be a big test for Adesanya, after which we should know whether he still "got it" or has he lost it for good. He has lost 3 out of his last 4 fights, some say his decline started after that loss to Alex Pereira, but he took a successful revenge and knocked Alex out, which didn't seem like a big thing back then, but now, when Alex is dominating the light heavyweight, maybe we should give Izzy more credit for that.

Shara Vs Page is guaranteed good entertainment, those two do not hold back. Shara is a x1.66 favourite, but anything can happen in that fight. Both are ranked 14th and 15th respectively, so the winner probably won't move up the ranking too much.

Although it is not an important match for ranking, it is a perfect match for entertainment.
We can always expect MVP to knock out by entering with an unexpected power shot, he did this in his matches in UFC.
Shara is younger and looks good right now, the double fist he threw in the last match was great, he can make such smart moves, and that is why page is a match that I really like, exactly the match I am looking for.
It is exactly the kind of match that UFC audience wants.
Pages:
Jump to: