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legendary
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November 25, 2024, 02:24:17 AM
Dont forget that Fig came from flyweight to bantamweight, and before Yan, he hasnt faced any fighter with level like Yan. Maybe Vera was more or less dangerous, but not Font or Garbrandt. Overall their fight was cool, I just dont know why it did not get fight of the night bonus. And, I dont understand Yans perspectives. Versus Dvalishvili Yas has nothing to show new. I have noticed, that Yans stamina wasnt as perfect as previously. Against Dvalishvili, who is a cardio machine, Yas has low chances. Rematch versus O'Malley, as he has lost via split decision? Or Nurmagomedov?
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November 24, 2024, 03:38:01 PM
^  I saw somebody posted a pic of Fig as a sushi chef or something in a Japanese restaurant.  Not sure where I saw it tho.  It's either here or at the Twitterz.  But yeah...  Cool to see these guys were just guys like us before they got famous.
Besides being a Sushi Chef, Deiveson Figueiredo was a hairstylist too. Most UFC fighters were poor and struggling every day, that's what gives you the motivation and anger at the same time and if you are strong, you can turn motivation and anger into something that will make you successful and that's fighting.

To me, Merab Dvalishvili is a great example of a guy who went from nothing to something to everything (Sounds familiar? From Conor's interview). This guy illegally moved in the USA, worked physically very demanding jobs and still managed to not only become a UFC fighter but to became an amazing fighter and the champion of the UFC. He is a pure motivation for everyone and reminder that you have no excuses in your life and nothing stops you from achieving what you want.
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November 24, 2024, 07:12:46 AM
^  Fig had his moments but overall it was all Yan in most of the rounds imho.  Fig was simply outclassed up there. 

But yeah, on to the next event which is coming in a couple of weeks.  So that means no UFC next weekend.  Lol...  How do you guys feel about Pantoja vs a guy who's first match in the UFC is a title shot?  Is he really that good or will Pantoja show the guy what's up? 

Here's his Tapology page.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/58234-kai-asakura

And even if he beats Pantoja, how does he match up vs the other top guys at 125..? 
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November 23, 2024, 01:51:50 PM
Petr Yan still has it.  I think he got the 2nd and the 5th round. Not sure which else but he seems to have thrown big shots in the first 3 rounds and Fig only came out stronger in the 4th, flash knockdown can be a winning point for him but didn't convinced the judges. If they just have to showcase their striking skills in all 5rounds, cheating their way to win the round by coming out aggressive in the last seconds would be a sneaky way of doing it. Maybe Petr win against Umar.

Petr vs Figgy is great to watch when both fighters engage while Wang Cong's fight she was pressuring and then suddenly an unexpected strike that wobbled her legs.  
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November 23, 2024, 10:24:49 AM
^  I saw somebody posted a pic of Fig as a sushi chef or something in a Japanese restaurant.  Not sure where I saw it tho.  It's either here or at the Twitterz.  But yeah...  Cool to see these guys were just guys like us before they got famous.

Anyway here are the results.  It was surprisingly a decent event...  Some decent finishes and with the Road to the UFC final bouts all between Asian fighters, it was mostly a striking affair like ONE FC.

Petr Yan def Deiveson Figueiredo  UD
Yan Xiaonan  def Tabatha Ricci  UD
Muslim Salikhov   def Song Kenan  KO R1
Gabriella Fernandes def Wang Cong  SUB R2
Carlos Ulberg def Volkan Oezdemir  UD
Zhang Mingyang def Ozzy Diaz  TKO R1
You Su-young def Baergeng Jieleyisi  UD
Choi Dong-hun def Kiru Singh Sahota  KO R1
Shi Ming def Feng Xiaocan  KO R3
Carlos Hernandez def Nyamjargal Tumendemberel  SD
Lone'er Kavanagh def Jose Ochoa  UD
Xiao Long def Quang Le  KO R3
Nikolas Motta def Maheshate Hayisaer  UD

UFC Macau:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQGKub-XrFs
legendary
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November 22, 2024, 06:10:12 PM
You saying Fig has a higher chance to win the match than what the line is showing?  Dunno...  Fig might steal the early rounds with more activity but as this is a 5 rounder, Yan will pick up the pace and win the last couple of rounds.  So I guess this is a live betting opportunity for Yan?  Grin Grin

Yeap, Fig can win this. If Petr usually looses his first rounds, and Fig, as a Brazilian and black belt in bjj uses Sterling tactics of takedown and control, he might win by slip decision. In addition Fig is on 3 win streak and can knock people down.

Is this really Charles? I don't see any delivery bag on him, he looks more like a typical Brazilian motorbike purse snatcher  Grin

Yeap, that is him. In his interviews he told that he has worken on pizza delivery to earn for gym and for life. So there is a high chance that he is on a way to work (or gym). Otherwise who would ride for fun in rain  Grin
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November 22, 2024, 11:56:50 AM
Have you guys discussed the UFC 310 Rakhmonov Vs Garry yet? I wasn't around when it was announced.
Anyhow, it's official now. I think it's a decent match-up, both are undefeated (18-0 and 15-0, respectively), one is considered one of the best prospects and material for a long-reigning champion, the other is insufferable cunt that everyone wants to see beaten. Will Shavkat give MMA fans what they want? Bookies seem to be thinking so, as he's a x1.30 favourite.

And I see Vicente Luque Vs Nick Diaz got cancelled, not sure why.
It was a good match. I saw a poster like this the other day but it wasn't official, so this one is an official match.
Both fighters are undefeated. One of them will lose their undefeated match.
Shavkat probably won't be the one to lose this match but it will still be an interesting match. 1.30 odds bookmakers haven't given Garry any chance. Smiley
legendary
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November 22, 2024, 11:44:27 AM
(...) Chandler manages to attract viewers and fans, I start to think that he is overestimated. Even though his fights are thrilling to watch, I dont remember seeing something extraordinary in his performance.

Chandler is a great example that the showmanship and an entertaining factor can take you further in the UFC than actual results. Many of his fights are what I call victorious losses, despite the negative outcome, he's remembered in a positive light. i.e. most fans will only remember Chandler slamming Oliveira twice at the end of the fight forgetting about his loss.

He now lost 4 out of his last 5 fights (only winning a total of 2 in the UFC) but even after the last loss he will still be highly valued. He's ranked 7th at the moment and I don't think they will match him up with anyone ranked below him. I'll be guessing he'll be fighting again with either Dan Hooker or Justin Gaethje. Chandler Vs either of them would guarantee a good show.

Friday portion of fun. Will you scam this pizza delivery guy for tips? Cheesy



Is this really Charles? I don't see any delivery bag on him, he looks more like a typical Brazilian motorbike purse snatcher  Grin
legendary
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November 22, 2024, 09:00:37 AM
Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.

Yan is x1.33 favourite and I think rightfully so. He may have lost 3 out of his last 5 fights, but he lost in a good style against very solid fighters (+ I think he was robbed in the O'Malley fight). He's also younger than Figueiredo (31 Vs 36), so Yan should have some cardio advantage if they are to go for a full 5 rounds.
The problem is it's been a while since the last time Yan managed to finish his opponent (2020), so it's very likely it will go to the judges where anything is possible.

And yeah.  And it's a 5 rounder.  If it's just three rounds and at these lines, I think Fig would be value.  But for 5 rounds, it's prolly all Yan at R4 and R5.  Fig's cardio kinda sucks.


Yan corner sucks Cheesy That guy, Artem Levin is his striking coach. That guy has appeared in Petrs camp since second fight against Sterling and Petr has been loosing since then, or his striking tactics since then became worse. On Russian mma forums it is discussed, that Levin is the reason why Yan isnt dominating in striking anymore. Because during fight Levin is silent. He does not give any hints, nor make corrections in tactics. That is why we see in recent fights, that Petr is doing same thing over and over again: lose first rounds but then takes last.  

First rounds Petr is doing according to game plan and 50/50 win or lose them.
Middle of he fight: Petr should change something, but nobody says him what to do.
Last rounds: takes them.

That was vs O'Malley, Sterling, Yadong. Same thing. He always looses start and middle of a fight, than thanks to character takes last rounds. Same thing will be vs Figueiredo, lose first two rounds, takes rest.

You saying Fig has a higher chance to win the match than what the line is showing?  Dunno...  Fig might steal the early rounds with more activity but as this is a 5 rounder, Yan will pick up the pace and win the last couple of rounds.  So I guess this is a live betting opportunity for Yan?  Grin Grin

Here are the weigh in results...  I can't find the weigh vids for some reason so if anybody sees it, please post.  Tyvm.

Petr Yan (135.5) vs Deiveson Figueiredo (135)
Yan Xiaonan (116) vs Tabatha Ricci (115.5)
Song Kenan (171) vs Muslim Salikhov (170.5)
Wang Cong (126) vs Gabriella Fernandes (126)
Volkan Oezdemir (206) vs Carlos Ulberg (205.5)
Ozzy Diaz (205) vs Zhang Mingyang (205)
Balgyn Jenisuly (135) vs Su Young You (135.5)
Dong Hoon Choi (125.5) vs Kiru Sahota (125)
Xiaocan Feng (115) vs Ming Shi (115.5)
Carlos Hernandez (125.5) vs Nyamjargal Tumendemberel (125.5)
Lone’er Kavanagh (126) vs Jose Ochoa (125)
Quang Le (136) vs Xiao Long (135)
Hayisaer Maheshate (155.5) vs Nikolas Motta (155)

Have you guys discussed the UFC 310 Rakhmonov Vs Garry yet? I wasn't around when it was announced.
Anyhow, it's official now. I think it's a decent match-up, both are undefeated (18-0 and 15-0, respectively), one is considered one of the best prospects and material for a long-reigning champion, the other is insufferable cunt that everyone wants to see beaten. Will Shavkat give MMA fans what they want? Bookies seem to be thinking so, as he's a x1.30 favourite.

And I see Vicente Luque Vs Nick Diaz got cancelled, not sure why.

Yeah been meaning to post that...  It's a dream come true.  Finally we see somebody beat Garry's face in.  Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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November 22, 2024, 03:10:13 AM
Have you guys discussed the UFC 310 Rakhmonov Vs Garry yet? I wasn't around when it was announced.

Nope, not yet. I think we havent spoken and discussed everything about UFC 309 Cheesy If main event was kind boring and predictive, then I think we havent discussed at all co-main event. Oliveira vs Chandler. Even though Chandler manages to attract viewers and fans, I start to think that he is overestimated. Even though his fights are thrilling to watch, I dont remember seeing something extraordinary in his performance.

Friday portion of fun. Will you scam this pizza delivery guy for tips? Cheesy

legendary
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November 21, 2024, 05:19:21 PM
Have you guys discussed the UFC 310 Rakhmonov Vs Garry yet? I wasn't around when it was announced.
Anyhow, it's official now. I think it's a decent match-up, both are undefeated (18-0 and 15-0, respectively), one is considered one of the best prospects and material for a long-reigning champion, the other is insufferable cunt that everyone wants to see beaten. Will Shavkat give MMA fans what they want? Bookies seem to be thinking so, as he's a x1.30 favourite.

And I see Vicente Luque Vs Nick Diaz got cancelled, not sure why.
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November 21, 2024, 01:16:35 PM
Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.

Yan is x1.33 favourite and I think rightfully so. He may have lost 3 out of his last 5 fights, but he lost in a good style against very solid fighters (+ I think he was robbed in the O'Malley fight). He's also younger than Figueiredo (31 Vs 36), so Yan should have some cardio advantage if they are to go for a full 5 rounds.
The problem is it's been a while since the last time Yan managed to finish his opponent (2020), so it's very likely it will go to the judges where anything is possible.

And yeah.  And it's a 5 rounder.  If it's just three rounds and at these lines, I think Fig would be value.  But for 5 rounds, it's prolly all Yan at R4 and R5.  Fig's cardio kinda sucks.


Yan corner sucks Cheesy That guy, Artem Levin is his striking coach. That guy has appeared in Petrs camp since second fight against Sterling and Petr has been loosing since then, or his striking tactics since then became worse. On Russian mma forums it is discussed, that Levin is the reason why Yan isnt dominating in striking anymore. Because during fight Levin is silent. He does not give any hints, nor make corrections in tactics. That is why we see in recent fights, that Petr is doing same thing over and over again: lose first rounds but then takes last.  

First rounds Petr is doing according to game plan and 50/50 win or lose them.
Middle of he fight: Petr should change something, but nobody says him what to do.
Last rounds: takes them.

That was vs O'Malley, Sterling, Yadong. Same thing. He always looses start and middle of a fight, than thanks to character takes last rounds. Same thing will be vs Figueiredo, lose first two rounds, takes rest.

It's probably going to be a 5 round fight like they said above. Yan is hard to takedown and Figgy can also box.
Maybe they are trying to impress the Chinese audience since Wang Cong is becoming a celebrity, she could be the next Weili to dominate women's flyweight. They waste these great matches in FN.

Nice to add her to the parlay for fun though. Petr Yan, Wang Cong, Song Kenan and Carlos Ulberg. Fight schedule could be a reason not able to watch.
legendary
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November 21, 2024, 07:30:20 AM
Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.

Yan is x1.33 favourite and I think rightfully so. He may have lost 3 out of his last 5 fights, but he lost in a good style against very solid fighters (+ I think he was robbed in the O'Malley fight). He's also younger than Figueiredo (31 Vs 36), so Yan should have some cardio advantage if they are to go for a full 5 rounds.
The problem is it's been a while since the last time Yan managed to finish his opponent (2020), so it's very likely it will go to the judges where anything is possible.

And yeah.  And it's a 5 rounder.  If it's just three rounds and at these lines, I think Fig would be value.  But for 5 rounds, it's prolly all Yan at R4 and R5.  Fig's cardio kinda sucks.


Yan corner sucks Cheesy That guy, Artem Levin is his striking coach. That guy has appeared in Petrs camp since second fight against Sterling and Petr has been loosing since then, or his striking tactics since then became worse. On Russian mma forums it is discussed, that Levin is the reason why Yan isnt dominating in striking anymore. Because during fight Levin is silent. He does not give any hints, nor make corrections in tactics. That is why we see in recent fights, that Petr is doing same thing over and over again: lose first rounds but then takes last.  

First rounds Petr is doing according to game plan and 50/50 win or lose them.
Middle of he fight: Petr should change something, but nobody says him what to do.
Last rounds: takes them.

That was vs O'Malley, Sterling, Yadong. Same thing. He always looses start and middle of a fight, than thanks to character takes last rounds. Same thing will be vs Figueiredo, lose first two rounds, takes rest.
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November 21, 2024, 06:50:46 AM
^  I don't get the duck reference.  Why is Jones called a duck again?  Is it cos he has a gut now?  Lol.  

Because he's DUCKing Tom. That's all.

Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.

Yan is x1.33 favourite and I think rightfully so. He may have lost 3 out of his last 5 fights, but he lost in a good style against very solid fighters (+ I think he was robbed in the O'Malley fight). He's also younger than Figueiredo (31 Vs 36), so Yan should have some cardio advantage if they are to go for a full 5 rounds.
The problem is it's been a while since the last time Yan managed to finish his opponent (2020), so it's very likely it will go to the judges where anything is possible.

OOOOHHH...  Rofl.  That's funny.  

And yeah.  And it's a 5 rounder.  If it's just three rounds and at these lines, I think Fig would be value.  But for 5 rounds, it's prolly all Yan at R4 and R5.  Fig's cardio kinda sucks.

I think I'm gonna do different parlays with Yan as the common denominator.  Grin

Anyway other guys I'm leaning on are Motta, Zhang Mingyang, Song Kenan and Yan Xiaonan.  

UFC Free Fight:  Petr Yan vs Urijah Faber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m19FwyMysJo

UFC Free Fight:  Deiveson Figueiredo vs Marlon Vera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFJU5dgjlbA
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November 21, 2024, 01:32:56 AM
It seemed to me like Bones was going to give Tom the shot everyone wants him to have. I think the whole duck thing is a negotiation tactic. Jones even seemed to hint after his last win that he was going to talk to Dana and give the people what they want soon. The man just wants a massive payday on his way out.
Jones is an anti-hero and he doesn't care about the morals and desires of some UFC fans because he only cares about himself. On the other hand it seems like Jones' fans know his sneaky nature. The fight against Miocic is 99% an easy win for Jones. But he just wants to be able to claim to be the GOAT who beat another GOAT. After this fight it seems like he will fight Pereira. Chama has a lot of fans with his unique character. And for now Pereira is still weak on the ground. This is the same weakness that Gane has. If Jones chooses an easier opponent then it is Pereira. But if suddenly Jones wants to surprise and negotiate a bigger payday for himself then a fight with Aspinall is what everyone wants right now.
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November 20, 2024, 11:36:49 PM
Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.
Of course Yan and Ulberg are the favorites and they have the edge on paper over their respective opponents and the possibility of Figueiredo being able to steal points from few rounds to get decision victory is also very small because Yan is much more aggressive and he will not give Figueiredo the chance to have an advantage even for just one round.
For Oezdemir vs Ulberg the bookies give odds of @2.90 for Oezdemir and @1.39 for Ulberg, in this fight I think there will be surprise with Ulberg winning faster by KO.
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November 20, 2024, 08:27:09 PM
It seemed to me like Bones was going to give Tom the shot everyone wants him to have. I think the whole duck thing is a negotiation tactic. Jones even seemed to hint after his last win that he was going to talk to Dana and give the people what they want soon. The man just wants a massive payday on his way out.
legendary
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November 20, 2024, 07:26:12 PM
^  I don't get the duck reference.  Why is Jones called a duck again?  Is it cos he has a gut now?  Lol.  

Because he's DUCKing Tom. That's all.

Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.

Yan is x1.33 favourite and I think rightfully so. He may have lost 3 out of his last 5 fights, but he lost in a good style against very solid fighters (+ I think he was robbed in the O'Malley fight). He's also younger than Figueiredo (31 Vs 36), so Yan should have some cardio advantage if they are to go for a full 5 rounds.
The problem is it's been a while since the last time Yan managed to finish his opponent (2020), so it's very likely it will go to the judges where anything is possible.
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November 20, 2024, 07:06:54 AM
^  I don't get the duck reference.  Why is Jones called a duck again?  Is it cos he has a gut now?  Lol.  

Anyway, who among you guys are excited for the next event?  I just want two match ups here, the main event with Yan vs Fig and Oezdemir vs Ulberg.  I think I'll just parlay Yan and Ulberg but I have a feeling Fig could steal some rounds and will prolly do enough to win via decision.  Dunno tho...  What do you guys think?  Yan at 1.29 and Fig at 3.50 seems too wide.
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November 20, 2024, 05:15:03 AM



Lol, quack-quack. I imagined Bones talking with Donald Duck voice Cheesy

Btw, we havent discussed gloves choice on UFC 309 Cheesy Why there were no golden gloves, but everyone wore old black gloves? Because Bones asked for them (to make eye-poking more easy) and UFC agreed to that?

Here is an article about it Dana White explains decision to bring back old gloves before UFC 309. I find it suspicious, that they took decision to bring old gloves back exactly when Bones was having a fight Cheesy KO ratio excuse did not work. As there were only 2 KO's by punches on UFC 309, and for example week before that on UFC Fight Night: Magny vs. Prates 4 KO's and 1 TKO with old golden gloves Cheesy
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