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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 28, 2024, 05:43:48 AM

But Sterling told numerous times that he does not want and will never fight his gym buddy Merab. (...)

He said a lot of things, if the money was right, both probably would happily agree. It's not like there's a serious risk of dying in the octagon or anything, they could remain buddies afterward. And they're probably bashing each other heads at the gym anyway.

Quote from: tokeweed on November 28, 2024, 06:30:48 AM

Sterling could back pack Evloev at R1 then win on volume at R2... That would be enough for UD win.

I'm not sure about the backpack thing. Evloev himself has a solid wrestling background so he may be able to successfully defend himself against Aljo. I'm hoping to see a few good scrambles but Evloev will probably prefer to stand and who knows what Aljo's strategy will be.

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Quote from: Synchronice on November 28, 2024, 07:11:48 AM

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I would never want to scam a man whose ears are smashed. I think that would be the biggest mistake in the world...

In Russia, some teenagers and guys break their ears on purpose to make them look like cauliflower, to make them look more dangerous Cheesy

Often they are from Dagestan and around it region, as wrestling is number one sport there. My next door neighbour from previous place where I rented flat had cauliflower ears, he was an old guy "alcohol was his natural body smell" (it was impossible to stand next to him in elevator). And he does not look dangerous at all. By this I want to say that not everyone with smashed ears are dangerous (however I dont recommend testing that Cheesy

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That trend really exists and not only in Russia but all around the world. Usually teenagers and those in their 20s do that, they think that they are cool if they have cauliflower ear but I find that very stupid. Nowadays, girls care more about looks of men, you have to be handsome to attract a good man and not broken ears. In 19th century and earlier, women might find that cool but not today.
I think that they'll regret it.

Quote from: Hanadawa on November 26, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

Although sometimes I don't like Uncle Dana because he's like Mr. Krab but I admit it's good and relevant advice. MMA or UFC fighters who are successful in the octagon usually have a lot of fans and that makes their social media followers grow a lot. Maybe for fighters who spend all their time training they won't be able to see anything else besides fighting and getting money. Even though we know that in this era social media is the place that makes the most money. If in the past people had to collect consumer databases then social media is a place where people are our target consumers.

Yes, I don't like Dana too but I have to admit that this advice of his surprised me. Seems, he at least cares about the life of their fighters at some point.
Nowadays, it's easier to make money via social media than from any other activity. Social Media pays a lot. There are many stupid influencers who know nothing about life but their million instagram followers give them amazing deals.

I couldn't imagine damaging ears to make it look like a cauliflower can attract girls. Unless of course, they tell exaggerated stories about how they got it like adding a battle scar. The girls of today's generation I think are different already, they want men who wear makeups.
As of now the trend in UFC are the fighting nerds Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0l-F7Z-zPE

Social Media is a good platform for them to make money, Dana knew since he has lots of friends. I guess he must be talking to Bisping all the time, He's a regular commentator on every Fight Night while also has a big Youtube audience.

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Quote from: Synchronice on November 28, 2024, 07:11:48 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 26, 2024, 03:36:31 AM

Quote from: trendcoin on November 25, 2024, 12:35:59 PM

I would never want to scam a man whose ears are smashed. I think that would be the biggest mistake in the world...

In Russia, some teenagers and guys break their ears on purpose to make them look like cauliflower, to make them look more dangerous Cheesy

Often they are from Dagestan and around it region, as wrestling is number one sport there. My next door neighbour from previous place where I rented flat had cauliflower ears, he was an old guy "alcohol was his natural body smell" (it was impossible to stand next to him in elevator). And he does not look dangerous at all. By this I want to say that not everyone with smashed ears are dangerous (however I dont recommend testing that Cheesy

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That trend really exists and not only in Russia but all around the world. Usually teenagers and those in their 20s do that, they think that they are cool if they have cauliflower ear but I find that very stupid. Nowadays, girls care more about looks of men, you have to be handsome to attract a good man and not broken ears. In 19th century and earlier, women might find that cool but not today.
I think that they'll regret it.

They already regret that because they cant use lots of small and in-ear headphones Cheesy

Their ears will be suitable only for large, heavy headphones, where ears get sweaty with time.

Anyway, lets get back to next event discussion. tokeween likes such kind of bets, Gane vs Volkov. 3.14 on Volkov Cheesy

Isnt that to much for him and odds should be around 2? Even though they have already met and Gane won by UD. Ganes comes after 1 year long pause. Volkov has more experience, more fights in UFC. Imho Volkov has improved his bjj, and Gane seems to be not that good at it. tokeween, here is your chance to earn Cheesy

+3 on Volkov Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 26, 2024, 03:36:31 AM

Quote from: trendcoin on November 25, 2024, 12:35:59 PM

I would never want to scam a man whose ears are smashed. I think that would be the biggest mistake in the world...

In Russia, some teenagers and guys break their ears on purpose to make them look like cauliflower, to make them look more dangerous Cheesy

Often they are from Dagestan and around it region, as wrestling is number one sport there. My next door neighbour from previous place where I rented flat had cauliflower ears, he was an old guy "alcohol was his natural body smell" (it was impossible to stand next to him in elevator). And he does not look dangerous at all. By this I want to say that not everyone with smashed ears are dangerous (however I dont recommend testing that Cheesy

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That trend really exists and not only in Russia but all around the world. Usually teenagers and those in their 20s do that, they think that they are cool if they have cauliflower ear but I find that very stupid. Nowadays, girls care more about looks of men, you have to be handsome to attract a good man and not broken ears. In 19th century and earlier, women might find that cool but not today.
I think that they'll regret it.

Quote from: Hanadawa on November 26, 2024, 05:59:42 AM

Although sometimes I don't like Uncle Dana because he's like Mr. Krab but I admit it's good and relevant advice. MMA or UFC fighters who are successful in the octagon usually have a lot of fans and that makes their social media followers grow a lot. Maybe for fighters who spend all their time training they won't be able to see anything else besides fighting and getting money. Even though we know that in this era social media is the place that makes the most money. If in the past people had to collect consumer databases then social media is a place where people are our target consumers.

Yes, I don't like Dana too but I have to admit that this advice of his surprised me. Seems, he at least cares about the life of their fighters at some point.
Nowadays, it's easier to make money via social media than from any other activity. Social Media pays a lot. There are many stupid influencers who know nothing about life but their million instagram followers give them amazing deals.

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^ Oh of course, there's that. But the weight cut was also a factor. And it showed in his match with O'Malley. He kinda looked slow and he wasn't as explosive... Now that I think about it, Sterling at 3.10 could be value in this spot. No way am I taking Evloev just at 1.38 vs an elite opponent.

Sterling could back pack Evloev at R1 then win on volume at R2... That would be enough for UD win.

And no idea what they're gonna do if Merab moves up and I don't really care. Lol. But yeah, wanna see them fight each other. Lmao.

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But Sterling told numerous times that he does not want and will never fight his gym buddy Merab. While being high in top in bantamweight, one day he will be forced to fight him (as there will be no challenges anymore for Merab). As people get older, they tend to get heavier or it becomes more problematic to cut. If one day, Merab wont be able to fit in bantamweight. What do you think he would do, retire or move to featherweight ? Cheesy

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 27, 2024, 04:02:48 AM

(...) At first I was surprised that he is so low in rating, after only 1 loss and defending title 3 times. But then it turns that he is in next division. Ran from bantamweight to avoid fighting his friend Merab? Cheesy

I don't think he's running away from anyone. He was explicit about wanting to move up even before he lost the belt to O'Malley. He moved to the featherweight in his last fight against Calvin Kattar, which he won by decision. I'm a bit surprised he's ranked that low, given he only had that one loss to Sean in the last few years. But defeating Evloev would boost him up in the ranks and put him in a good spot to fight against bigger names and maybe get a shot at the title after.
Evloev is an impressive 18-0, but he really struggles to finish his opponents. All of his 8 UFC fights have been won by decision, so not quite a fighter the UFC would want to hype up.

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^ Yeah it could be that but Sterling did say a couple of times before that he'll move up to 145 as the weight cut to 135 wasn't easy for him.

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 26, 2024, 02:10:22 PM

Yeah, the UFC 310 looks very decent. I think the Rakhmonov Vs Gary could be a better fight to watch than Rakhmonov Vs Muhammad, the belt is not on the line, but it has a better entertaining potential.

Here are the odds for all the fights:

Bryce Mitchell x1.17 Vs Kron Gracie x5.00

Ciryl Gane x1.36 Vs Alexander Volkov x3.14

Shavkat Rakhmonov x1.27 Vs Ian Machado Garry x3.80

Alexandre Pantoja x1.40 Vs Kai Asakura x3.00

Vicente Luque x2.57 Vs Themba Gorimbo x1.52

Michael Chiesa x2.25 Vs Max Griffin x1.66

Clay Guida x6.00 Vs Chase Hooper x1.13

Cody Durden x2.30 Vs Joshua van x1.61

Chris Weidman x2.00 Vs Eryk Anders x1.81

Randy Brown x2.83 Vs Bryan Battle x1.44

Anthony Smith x3.60 Vs Dominick Reyes x1.30

Movsar Evloev x1.38 Vs Aljamain Sterling x3.10

Nate Landwehr x1.62 Vs Doo Ho Choi x2.30

I had no clue that Clay Guida was still active. The guy will be 43 on 8th Dec, so one day after the event. Will he earn himself a win for his birthday? The bookies say No, as he has the highest payout of x6.00.

Oof i'm liking Guida, Durden and Smith as underdogs. Not sure why Guida is lined at 6.00 in this spot. I know he's old but he could get his wrestling game together for the match and get some control time vs Hooper, he might just win it. Hooper improved a bit but dunno man... Still not convinced. As for the rest maybe Gracie via SUB..? Mitchell could get caught with a guillotine or something. And I like Rakhmonov for sure,

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 26, 2024, 06:47:31 AM

Banger event even though the main event is kinda weak. And they should put Evloev vs Sterling a notch higher at the spot of Smith vs Reyes.

I find it funny, that his event has more big names than UFC 309 Cheesy

3 fights in early prelims, prelims are great, first 3 fights in main card are also should not be missed. On ufc.com, they even still have Vicente Luque vs Nate Diaz in the prelims Cheesy

And I only today noticed that Sterling is #9 and has moved to bantamweight to featherweight. At first I was surprised that he is so low in rating, after only 1 loss and defending title 3 times. But then it turns that he is in next division. Ran from bantamweight to avoid fighting his friend Merab? Cheesy

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Quote from: cabron on November 19, 2024, 03:01:17 PM

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I think Jones is as smart as he is a good fighter. He said he wanted more money to fight Aspinall and he made a remarkable argument... However, Aspinall deserved this fight as the interim belt holder. So, I think Jones preferred trash talk instead of fighting Aspinall in the octagon. Anyway, maybe that's an success and Jones has achieved that too...

By the way, Jones continued to mock the whole controversy by changing his social media profile to a duck wearing a belt...

https://x.com/JonnyBones/status/1858284205689442479

I think he's trying to look like he doesn't care about the criticism against him...

UFC matchmaker sure would agree Jone vs Aspinall should happen, Dana would agree as well but it seems like Dana doesn't want that to happen. We saw him force someone to fight another he can even make a fight on short notice, more than likely it's not just Jones who decides not to fight Aspinall.

Even if he insists on fighting Pereira, I think it may not also happen. But who knows. If he can get a huge pay when Jones vs Pereira is hyped, I think Jones would prefer this fight and then retire.

It would be very headshaking to speculate or mention that our uncle Dana does not want this fight on Jon chicken legs vs. Tom Aspinall to occur if uncle Dana has already said on press conferences and interviews that the next fight for the championship of the heavyweight division will be Jones' chicken legs vs. Aspinall's long jaw.

However, my prediction is Jon Jones will be having another type of injury hehehehe. The injury was on his shoulder, I predict the next injury will be on his chicken leg hehehehh.

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^ Prelim cards are also interesting. Hope Dominick Reyes will dominate Smith and can climb back up again.
Kai just got into UFC and his debut is a title shot against a veteran. Hard to see him win but maybe he will. He defeated Manel in Rizin by TKO. Kai does have serious grappling skills too.

I think this should be what Dana is doing, looking for fighters from the other promotion and letting them fight. A champ from Bellator and PFL fighting in for unification would be fun.

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Yeah, the UFC 310 looks very decent. I think the Rakhmonov Vs Gary could be a better fight to watch than Rakhmonov Vs Muhammad, the belt is not on the line, but it has a better entertaining potential.

Here are the odds for all the fights:

Bryce Mitchell x1.17 Vs Kron Gracie x5.00

Ciryl Gane x1.36 Vs Alexander Volkov x3.14

Shavkat Rakhmonov x1.27 Vs Ian Machado Garry x3.80

Alexandre Pantoja x1.40 Vs Kai Asakura x3.00

Vicente Luque x2.57 Vs Themba Gorimbo x1.52

Michael Chiesa x2.25 Vs Max Griffin x1.66

Clay Guida x6.00 Vs Chase Hooper x1.13

Cody Durden x2.30 Vs Joshua van x1.61

Chris Weidman x2.00 Vs Eryk Anders x1.81

Randy Brown x2.83 Vs Bryan Battle x1.44

Anthony Smith x3.60 Vs Dominick Reyes x1.30

Movsar Evloev x1.38 Vs Aljamain Sterling x3.10

Nate Landwehr x1.62 Vs Doo Ho Choi x2.30

I had no clue that Clay Guida was still active. The guy will be 43 on 8th Dec, so one day after the event. Will he earn himself a win for his birthday? The bookies say No, as he has the highest payout of x6.00.

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Banger event even though the main event is kinda weak. And they should put Evloev vs Sterling a notch higher at the spot of Smith vs Reyes.

The first match. Guida vs Chase Hooper... Nice! I am in. Lolol.

Date: Saturday, Dec 7
Main Card (PPV): 10:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+): 8:00pm EST
Early Prelims (ESPN+/Fight Pass): 6:15pm EST
Venue: T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Card (PPV)
Flyweight: Alexandre Pantoja vs Kai Asakura
Welterweight: Shavkat Rakhmonov vs Ian Machado Garry
Heavyweight: Ciryl Gane vs Alexander Volkov
Featherweight: Bryce Mitchell vs Kron Gracie
Featherweight: Nate Landwehr vs Choi Doo Ho

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Light Heavyweight: Anthony Smith vs Dominick Reyes
Featherweight: Movsar Evloev vs Aljamain Sterling
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs Bryan Battle
Catchweight (195 lbs): Chris Weidman vs Eryk Anders

Early Prelims (ESPN+/UFC Fight Pass
Flyweight: Cody Durden vs Joshua Van
Welterweight: Michael Chiesa vs Max Griffin
Lightweight: Clay Guida vs Chase Hooper

At first glance, with looking at the odds and without looking at their Tapology pages, I like Hooper, Chiesa, Durden, Anders, Battle, Evloev, Smith, Landwehr, Mitchell, Gane, Rakhmonov and Pantoja.

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Quote from: Synchronice on November 25, 2024, 03:23:41 PM

-snip-I don't like Dana White but this advise from him is really very good.

Although sometimes I don't like Uncle Dana because he's like Mr. Krab but I admit it's good and relevant advice. MMA or UFC fighters who are successful in the octagon usually have a lot of fans and that makes their social media followers grow a lot. Maybe for fighters who spend all their time training they won't be able to see anything else besides fighting and getting money. Even though we know that in this era social media is the place that makes the most money. If in the past people had to collect consumer databases then social media is a place where people are our target consumers.

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 26, 2024, 03:36:31 AM

(however I dont recommend testing that Cheesy

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I agree with your advice not to provoke someone who has cauliflower ears. Although some people look harmless, you can't judge a person by their cover. To someone who doesn't know UFC, Charles Oliveira, who looks like a pizza delivery guy, looks like a harmless young man. Grin

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Quote from: trendcoin on November 25, 2024, 12:35:59 PM

I would never want to scam a man whose ears are smashed. I think that would be the biggest mistake in the world...

In Russia, some teenagers and guys break their ears on purpose to make them look like cauliflower, to make them look more dangerous Cheesy

Often they are from Dagestan and around it region, as wrestling is number one sport there. My next door neighbour from previous place where I rented flat had cauliflower ears, he was an old guy "alcohol was his natural body smell" (it was impossible to stand next to him in elevator). And he does not look dangerous at all. By this I want to say that not everyone with smashed ears are dangerous (however I dont recommend testing that Cheesy

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Quote from: cabron on November 25, 2024, 11:45:53 AM

That must be the reason Figgy has that colored hair every fight Grin

Working in physically demanding jobs must have helped Merab to be this huge. The pressure of being illegal in a country is a struggle to make it in the land that hunts them but I guess it can also be a motivation for him.

Merab's story looks very interesting for me but sadly it's hard to find information about him because he is from a small country that's rarely known for the rest of the world. Information is mostly written in his local language and google translate doesn't translate it well but I agree with you, the pressure of being illegal in a country might help him. There are people who break and there are people who become stronger, Merab is the one that become the strongest. I admire this guy for his achievement.

Quote from: cabron on November 25, 2024, 11:45:53 AM

These fighters should know fighting is not going to be their career forever, some of them don't end up becoming MMA coaches. Having another career besides fighting is necessary or they end up like those guys still fighting at age 40+ while records in their last 5 fights are red.

Demetrious Johnson, aka Mighty Mouse was talking exactly about that topic. In one of his interview or podcast, he said that Dana White was giving them advice about life after UFC. Of course, they can't be fighting for decades and they'll finish their career in their late 30s or early 40s, so they have to feed their families, right? So that's when Dana White advised them to seriously take care of their social media because today it's what generates a good amount of money.
I don't like Dana White but this advise from him is really very good.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 22, 2024, 03:10:13 AM

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Friday portion of fun. Will you scam this pizza delivery guy for tips? :D

I would never want to scam a man whose ears are smashed. I think that would be the biggest mistake in the world... :)

I saw this photo on Twitter, too. We know Charles Oliveira came from the deepest depths. He has a story from the favelas to the championship. His chances against Islam are not high, but he should be on the octagon one more time for the belt...

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Quote from: Synchronice on November 24, 2024, 03:38:01 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2024, 10:24:49 AM

^ I saw somebody posted a pic of Fig as a sushi chef or something in a Japanese restaurant. Not sure where I saw it tho. It's either here or at the Twitterz. But yeah... Cool to see these guys were just guys like us before they got famous.

Besides being a Sushi Chef, Deiveson Figueiredo was a hairstylist too. Most UFC fighters were poor and struggling every day, that's what gives you the motivation and anger at the same time and if you are strong, you can turn motivation and anger into something that will make you successful and that's fighting.

To me, Merab Dvalishvili is a great example of a guy who went from nothing to something to everything (Sounds familiar? From Conor's interview). This guy illegally moved in the USA, worked physically very demanding jobs and still managed to not only become a UFC fighter but to became an amazing fighter and the champion of the UFC. He is a pure motivation for everyone and reminder that you have no excuses in your life and nothing stops you from achieving what you want.

The drive to be the best in their chosen field is very strong as they have the will to get out of poverty. Because if you have no reason why you want such place, how can you be motivated inside the ring? This kind of stories is also familiar in boxers too. Just like Pacquiao who also have his share of rags-to-riches story. This is why a lot of fans are rooting for these athletes because of their background in life. They are like very good role models in the story of sports.
The training you need to put into this sports is very rigid. Hence, if you don't have the right motivation and stamina, you will easily give up this type of sports. So I commend this UFC fighters for having such strength on this activity.

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Quote from: Synchronice on November 24, 2024, 03:38:01 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2024, 10:24:49 AM

^ I saw somebody posted a pic of Fig as a sushi chef or something in a Japanese restaurant. Not sure where I saw it tho. It's either here or at the Twitterz. But yeah... Cool to see these guys were just guys like us before they got famous.

Besides being a Sushi Chef, Deiveson Figueiredo was a hairstylist too. Most UFC fighters were poor and struggling every day, that's what gives you the motivation and anger at the same time and if you are strong, you can turn motivation and anger into something that will make you successful and that's fighting.

To me, Merab Dvalishvili is a great example of a guy who went from nothing to something to everything (Sounds familiar? From Conor's interview). This guy illegally moved in the USA, worked physically very demanding jobs and still managed to not only become a UFC fighter but to became an amazing fighter and the champion of the UFC. He is a pure motivation for everyone and reminder that you have no excuses in your life and nothing stops you from achieving what you want.

That must be the reason Figgy has that colored hair every fight Grin

Working in physically demanding jobs must have helped Merab to be this huge. The pressure of being illegal in a country is a struggle to make it in the land that hunts them but I guess it can also be a motivation for him.

These fighters should know fighting is not going to be their career forever, some of them don't end up becoming MMA coaches. Having another career besides fighting is necessary or they end up like those guys still fighting at age 40+ while records in their last 5 fights are red.

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^ Yup and Fig at 135 has way better cardio than at 125... As for Yan's next match, I think a rematch with O'Malley is the best option for both Yan and O'Malley. I think Yan won the first fight. But that's just me. You guys can watch it again at MMA Core and judge for yourselves.

And as for Dvalishvili, nobody could beat him except for one guy... Nurmagomedov. So the UFC better splash the cash and pay these guys so they go fight.

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