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Definitely. Either who will drop KO on the floor we'll like it. But I have some doubts that Edwards can do it again with Usman. This is the 3rd time I think Usman may have now prepared the kind of adjustments he will do probably just take down Edwards by force and pound him to the ground with all his might.

If Edwards still can get up over and over as he did in the last fight, the result may still be the same. Usman will be frustrated and gas out which is what the opportunity that Edwards looks for.

I do remember that. Thanks for bringing that up again.  His coach is the real fighter here, never gave up on Leon and just kept on pushing him to not let Usman bully him. The fight was obviously sinking down for him, I cannot even imagine the what if it's a different coach on his corner.
Now, he has something to defend, I bet that will boost his confidence, unlike that last fight. Edwards was always silent that is why he ain't on the trend but as a champion, he can now express his emotions.
We love knockouts, I guess that is why you got bored with all the wrestling and grappling.  Well, we will see if Edwards could repeat that but I am sure Usman's camp has a game plan already written and one I can think of is to keep the fight on the mat.

Justin Gaethje's wrestling is over hyped in my opinion. He has never shown that he wants to wrestle I cannot remember a time where he tried to take down his opponent. Instead he likes to have a stand up heavy game plan and likes to knock people out. He could have easily won some of his losses if he knew how to wrestle I know he has a long history at high school level and I think he was a state champion but he has not shown that in the UFC and I think he will try his same game plan of standing and trying to knock out Rafael.

I got Fiziev as he has more tools in striking than Justin Gaethje, has good enough wrestling defense and has improved cardio as seen in his match vs Dos Anjos.  But I don't think Fiziev will pulverize Gaethje.  It's going to be a good fight with Fiziev edging it out.  

One thing with Gaethje tho is the shots he's taken throughout the years could be accumulated and is ready for a KO.  

As for Usman, he'll improve his chances of winning and make his current line look like value if he goes out there and have a wrestling heavy game plan.  IMHO.  I think he will...  He just wants his belt back.

I hope Leon Edwards wins again he is a true champion! Usman is good but I think he is a boring champion and I cannot wait until there is a champion which will have entertaining fights. Israel Adesanya and Usman have dominated for too long and they are very boring to watch. Leon Edwards brings excitement in every fight because he is a kickboxer that looks to knock out his opponents instead of trying to win by decision like Usman and Israel Adesanya.

There is a nice video that has gone viral https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_wrz_fsF1c. I think that has not been posted here yet. Leon Edwards coach is cheering him between rounds. I know that this is a task of every coach, but that last part of this video is killing me. The look on Leon face, that "I am tired", "I dont know what to do". And compare it how calm Usman and his coach were. A fighter must  wish to be a champ, not like your coach is talking you to continue...

I have gone with Rafael Fiziev just because I think he can pulverize Gaethje and he looks really tough enough to handle those kicks but if Justin Gaethje resolves with his base wrestling maybe he would get back to that but Rafael Fiziev might have a good takedown defense I really think there are many fighters now that have a good takedown defense now just because some fear wrestling, but for me, Rafael Fiziev looks buff but there is still a chance for Justin Gaethje winning this, but again I think Fiziev could win this,


I feel that Kamaru Usman will surely dominate again in this fight, there might be no higher chance for Leon Edwards to escape now, that embarrassment that Kamaru Usman feels will surely linger in him and right now I think all he feels is anger towards the man that steals from him while seeing Edwards still doesn't have any clue at all, well I am still waiting for the Press Conference to starts then I may conclude what kind of mentality Leon Edwards has gone inside the Octagon and about this fight,

Vettori is not as good as people are saying why do you think he will win? He can only wrestle he never finishes fights and gets tired and starts laying on people. When he cannot get the take down he is not threatening and I think he gets beat this week. Roman Dolidze has good TD defense and I think he can get the knock out when Vettori gets tired and gets sloppy the odds are 3.25 for Roman and it is worth the risk imo.

Watching their last fight more closely again, Edwards was no push over.  He was hitting Usman with good strikes in all rounds.  Try watching it again without the sound on.  Sometimes it's easy to get swayed with what Rogan and Cormier is saying.  Edwards wasn't broken by Usman in the fight.  He was behind in the judges score cards but I wouldn't say it was total domination by Usman.

Anyway, made a couple of changes in my lottery ticket.

Usman - Fiziev
Add:  Shore - Murphy - Mokaev
Add:  Vettori - Hadley - CL Duncan
Add:  Klein - C Duncan - Nelson
Add:  Miller - Carolina - Patterson
Add:  Maia

Nelson up, Carolina down and CL Duncan up, C Duncan down.  Haven't locked anything yet til after weigh ins.  Could make more changes...  I think Usman could go down a notch or two.

Of course, the challenger will have to come up with something special to convince the judges that he deserves the win. Usman will have to do that. Otherwise, the fight is most probably not going to have resulted in favor of him. Everyone knows that he is a great fighter, and no one disagrees with that.

But it's not about that. He will have to prove to the judges that he is the better fighter and deserves the win. Which is not going to happen if it does not "jump out of the pants". The best option is going to be taking matters into his own hands. Just KO or submit Leon Edwards.

Regards

Duke

But in a close or even fight, judges usually dont give belt to a challenger. In Russian we say "jump out of the pants" when saying that someone must do something special while trying to achieve. Usman will have to either finish Edwards, or be so much better than Edwards, that no one would doubt that he is real champ. In their previous fight, people say that Usman was winning every round, but people might think that because he has 5 defences already. Like they get used to that he is winning all the time. In their previous fight it want like he was dominating. Edwards still looked fresh, no visual damage on his body. If not that high kick, Usman would win by UD, because Edwards failed to show something extra. In their next fight, if we see the same scenario, Edwads would win by UD if Usman did not jump out of the pants.

This is difficult to answer as we don't know how judges will score everything but based on just watching fights, mostly the challenger will need to be aggressive and showcase his skills. But I understand where this is coming from, Edwards was supposed to lose on their last match if not for the KO kick in a minute remaining. Perhaps, that will also affect their decision-making as long as Usman is in front of the scorecards. It would be better though if he could put a big gap using his wrestling skills.

I already locked my bet for 5 fights in a parlay.
Vettori, Marvin - Dolidze, Roman
Maia, Jennifer - Oneill, Casey
Nelson, Gunnar - Barberena, Bryan
Gaethje, Justin - Fiziev, Rafael
Edwards, Leon - Usman, Kamaru
Total: @12.38
The fight is too early in our timeline, I guess I am back to just watching the full replays.

Usual Usman will be enough because odds on the bookies is representing of the overall people's opinion, Usman is favorited in this match so most people think Usman will able to beat Edwards. Usman only lost against Edwards after defending his belt for 5 times, so the judges will think about it and put more respect to Usman. Edwards still need to dominate the fight or KO'ed Usman, if it's 50/50 Usman will win via split decision.

If Edwards goes into full defence, and be sort of a turtle in a shell, will judges give victory to Usman, if their previous fight scenario repeats? If Usman will work as number one, and Edwards acts more as a counter striker, will it be enough for Usman to win this fight as UD or split decision? I mean if this werent a fight for a belt, then no doubt judges would give Usman a win. But as Usman is a challenger, does he needs to show 200% to get his belt back? Or "usual Usman" will be enough ?

I'm not saying Usman goes out there with guns blazing.  He'll still be playing his game but he'll be looking to get the KO if the opportunity presents itself.  And remember, he had the last match in the bag if not for the head kick.  R2 to R5 would've been all Usman and he was on his way to a win.  I wasn't even watching anymore as it was already so clear that Edwards was mentally broken til the MMA gods gave him a miracle.  I don't think he'll get another chance imho. 

My lottery ticket...  Hope I get a better result after last event's disaster.  Lol.

Usman - Fiziev
Add:  Shore - Murphy - Mokaev
Add:  Vettori - Hadley - C Duncan
Add:  Klein - CL Duncan - Carolina
Add:  Miller - Nelson - Patterson
Add:  Maia

Justin would probably be my underdog pick of the night. He's a tough fighter, and I think he has more of a chance than the odds suggest. He's definitely a contender for the title, and that's why I find the odds surprising. I'd have thought it'd be more even.

I'll give Leon credit for the win, obviously. However, Alex Pereira was a little different, he was always in that fight, and always looked dangerous. Leon, didn't even look competitive at certain stages of that fight. So, while there definitely was a element of luck to land that kick, at least to connect in the way it did. He had the technique, and patience to actually throw it. So, he made his own luck.

I'm quite liking the odds though, Usman at 1.40 is extremely good considering how dominant of a performance it was up until that kick. Whether or not he comes out guns blazing, I think he takes the win whatever way he wants. He's going to be extra motivated to get his belt back, and save himself from the embarrassment of the last fight. I think he's a good one to beef up anyone's accumulator, and should win.

This might help you to make a right bet. Gaethje is a base wrestler that did not rely or use his skills lately. What we usually hear about Gaethje - ooohh he has vicious low kicks, watch for them. What I know about Fiziev - his current residence is Thailand and earn for a living by fighting and training with thai boxers. Yes, the guys who rely much on elbows and low kicks. Fizies is 10000% ready against Gaethje low kicks. I would say that Gaethje will be partly disarmed in this fight. Plus Fizies is fast. Fiziev previous fight against RDA, a black belt in BJJ, showed that Fiziev is able to defence against master of subs for 5 rounds, have enough stamina for 5 rounds.

Yes, this is a UFC fight that has been eagerly awaited and certainly very exciting to be able to watch it.
From that fight I actually have different thoughts and predictions about this weekend's fight because from some of my analysis and predictions say that the winner in this fight will be Leon Edwards as well as the UFC welterweight champion.
He has quite strong endurance and is not easily knocked down, even in the fight later, I'm sure Usman will be very tired against Edwards, the champion in his class.
Even from the predictions I made, I had prepared a certain amount of money to be able to bet on Edwards and later manage to profit from winning fights in the main event of the UFC.

Yup! I agree Kamaru Usman can be a safe bet, but because Leon Edward can also be unpredictable with the way he can place his kicks anything can surely happen, and I think that is acceptable odd for Usman because he was really dominating most of the rounds, but for me, I think we should give Edwards some credits for winning against Usman in the nick of time, just like what Alex Pereira did, because you can never know what unthinkable move he will do in their rematch so for me, it is an exciting match


And Leon Edwards seems pretty much durable which is why everything can surely happen with the fight and likely I may aswell bet for Edwards, but I will look for the weigh-in 1st, before making my decision for a pick, likely watching possible nook and cranny of a possible way for Leon Edwards to win again because all of the advantages were for Kamaru Usman, but maybe a home crowd could like give him moral support and could make him have that energy he needs,


Yes, actually I still don't know if I would go with Gaethje or Fiziev here, but I would be looking for other videos of Rafael Fiziev, while the same goes with Marvin Vettori VS Dolidze, actually, I am having a hard time with most of the fight in this events anything can happen it's just that everyone can develop some wrestling game and be good at it in just a small amount of time, While with Makaev I am still bullish for him even if he struggles in there, I think his camp will likely have a solution about this kind of issue,

I think this event is really worth to bet on the underdog, both Edwards and Gaethje are have higher position than Usman and Fisiev, but majority of people think Usman and Fisiev will likely to win. The fight between Edwards vs Usman, it's close enough and I think it will be 50/50, but since Usman have destroy everyone before, he looks more convincing. Gaethje is better than Fisiev IMO, his lost is because he fight with a good fighters e.g. Khabib, Oliveira, and Poirier.