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March 12, 2023, 08:26:27 AM
I suck.  Lol.  Note to self:  Never ever put low level WMMA matches at the top ticket.

And I had a really bad read on Yan.  All the high level guys are beating up on him.  I hope the books tag him as an underdog next time vs a young up and coming prospect.  That should be a good spot for him.

Anyway, I want to forget this event now.  On to 286...  Cheesy Cheesy

Watch this match.  The main event is gonna be their third match this weekend.

UFC Free Fight:  Edwards vs Usman 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdmSD0lWEtM

^  Watch it from start to end.  Grin
What a comeback, I saw a video on youtube on how leon edwards got the nickname of "rocky" and it shows how leon edwards became motivated and did some comeback match vs Usman. The clips are like in the movies where his coach saying things like "stop feeling sorry for yourself" and "what's wrong with you" to motivate Leon to beat Usman. Then the moment that Leon finally came where he landed a kick in the Chin that made him win the match. In this coming March 19, the trilogy will finally come. I may bet to Leon because I think he will win again, the Odds shows that he is not the favorite one and majority of gamblers are supporting Usman. I'm really excited to see the match of this 2 fighter.
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March 12, 2023, 07:39:01 AM
I suck.  Lol.  Note to self:  Never ever put low level WMMA matches at the top ticket.

And I had a really bad read on Yan.  All the high level guys are beating up on him.  I hope the books tag him as an underdog next time vs a young up and coming prospect.  That should be a good spot for him.

Anyway, I want to forget this event now.  On to 286...  Cheesy Cheesy

Watch this match.  The main event is gonna be their third match this weekend.

UFC Free Fight:  Edwards vs Usman 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdmSD0lWEtM

^  Watch it from start to end.  Grin
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March 12, 2023, 04:42:41 AM
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I was really shocked this fight was really controversial and for me, this is a real robbery Said Nurmagomedov was dominating the fight and have more strikes landed than Jonathan Martinez even though there is blood on Said Nurmagomedov's nose pretty much that 9 takedowns and that submission were a valid reason why this turned to be a robbery Said was very disappointed with the result because pretty much he know that he won this fight but the judges have done it again,
This is going on against Russian fighters for a while, the judges are messing up with the results and Petr Yan felt this in his last fight against Sean O'Malley and there is no way that he would have lost that but this fight was different as Merab Dvalishvili was on a mission to create some record for the most take down attempts and his stamina is incredible and Petr Yan is on a three fight loosing streak.

These type of stupid judging against Russian fighters has to stop as it is messing up with our bets and real money is lost. Have to go for round bets if Russian fighters are involved rather than moneyline to be on the safe side.
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March 12, 2023, 03:20:34 AM

Ho ho ho I as right about Ariana Lipski win against JJ Aldrich, this was amazing odds and I only placed a bet because I think she was more pretty than her opponent  Kiss
Guys tune in and watch UFC now live, main card is about to start soon with big boys, and I am interested to see some fighters I never watched before.

My bets are:
Petr Yan
Alexander Volkov
Nikita Krylov
Ricardo Ramos
Said Nurmagomedov
Vitor Petrino

Pretty much I really want to go and pick the Beautiful fighting kitty Ariana Lipski over JJ Aldrich, but still, because of JJ Aldrich's experience I surely underestimated Lipski, She has improved her wrestling she got 2 takedowns just to scramble those strikes to JJ Aldrich she got many significant strikes and total strikes to Aldrich so pretty much I really never expected her to be dominating in this fight I really though it will be a close match Ariana Lipski has done a pretty good job,



Here are the result of my bet for these matches,

Petr Yan VS Merab Dvalishvili - ROUND 5 DECISION - WIN

It was his explosiveness just like I thought that could let him win this fight, that combined takedowns with the striking surely have confused Petr Yan, and having Aljamain Sterling in his corner has proven that he will win this fight exposing Yan's in the entire fight, Petr Yan is a sitting duck while Mera b Dvalishvili is in constant phase to throw those takedowns, I think Dvalishvili has Throw 49 takedowns, with 11 was a success, it was insane his cardio is off the chart for taking 49 takedowns,

Alexander Volkov VS Alexandr Romanov - ROUND 1 KO/TKO - LOST

Just like I thought this fight will not last long each fighter can win with 1 a punch victory and this has proven that Alexander Volkov has the advantage because of his height and weight Romanov attempts takedowns but with no success, Volkov's takedown defense is more superior and with that, it was the strikes of Volkov and controlling Romanov's back that makes the win for him,

Nikita Krylov VS Ryan Spann - ROUND 1 SUBMISSION - WIN

Pretty much even though with Ryan Spann's reach advantage, Nikita Krylov has seen an opening to Spann, which led to a takedown for him to take that Triangle Choke it was insane you can see the more dominant fighter and that is Nikita Krylov,

Said Nurmagomedov VS Jonathan Martinez - ROUND 3 DECISION - LOST

I was really shocked this fight was really controversial and for me, this is a real robbery Said Nurmagomedov was dominating the fight and have more strikes landed than Jonathan Martinez even though there is blood on Said Nurmagomedov's nose pretty much that 9 takedowns and that submission were a valid reason why this turned to be a robbery Said was very disappointed with the result because pretty much he know that he won this fight but the judges have done it again,

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March 11, 2023, 05:49:29 PM
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Ho ho ho I as right about Ariana Lipski win against JJ Aldrich, this was amazing odds and I only placed a bet because I think she was more pretty than her opponent  Kiss
That is one hell of a bet, placing a bet on the prettier one and you ended up winning  Grin.

Guys tune in and watch UFC now live, main card is about to start soon with big boys, and I am interested to see some fighters I never watched before.
Watching the fights, upset with the way Raphael Assuncao ended up loosing the fight where he was winning the rounds and Davey Grant grabbing the fence throughout the fight and the stupid refereeing restarting the fight not going to the old position and finally Davey Grant ending the fight with a great submission, but Assuncao should have won.

 
Placed just two bets in parlay Said Nurmagomedov and Mario Bautista, placing live bets on the go.
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March 11, 2023, 05:39:53 PM
My pick in Multi Master Challenge is on Ariane Lipski to win and she is heavy underdog and it will be huge surprise, but I just like it.
Ho ho ho I as right about Ariana Lipski win against JJ Aldrich, this was amazing odds and I only placed a bet because I think she was more pretty than her opponent  Kiss
Guys tune in and watch UFC now live, main card is about to start soon with big boys, and I am interested to see some fighters I never watched before.

My bets are:
Petr Yan
Alexander Volkov
Nikita Krylov
Ricardo Ramos
Said Nurmagomedov
Vitor Petrino
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March 11, 2023, 02:51:39 PM
Here are my picks for the UFC Fight Night: Yan vs. Dvalishvili

Petr Yan VS Merab Dvalishvili

The stake odds for this fight are 1.38 for Yan and 3.10 for Dvalishvili, for this fight right now I don't really trust Yan but for Merab Dvalishvili is very explosive with his takedowns, and surely in engaging with his striking Dvalishvili truly has that explosiveness in his, and right now he got the reach advantage, but not that much but what I like with Dvalishivili is that he is a well-rounded like Yan and like what I have said I really don't trust Yan winning this, that is why my pick is Merab Dvalishvili,

Alexander Volkov VS Alexandr Romanov

The stake odds for this fight are 2.28 for Volkov and 1.64 for Romanov, for this fight the bout could surely last in an instant this is the Heavyweight after all and even though Volkov had the height and reach advantage I really think Romanov has a good chin and can provide to withstand Volkov's barrage and so my pick will be Alexandr Romanov,

Nikita Krylov VS Ryan Spann

The stake odds for this fight are 1.57 for Krylov and 2.41 got Spann, Right now, this fight was the Main Event of the past events but because of Krylov's tummy illness the fight was canceled for these two are pretty much excited in fighting because of the cancellation of their fight especially Spann, Spann has decent fighting that is likely hard to predict but for Krylov his wrestling was I am expecting from him, but like what I have said in my previous post, Ryan Spann has the height and reach advantage and I think he got the power aswell but both guys had a submission game but for me, Nikita Krylov is more technical than Ryan Spann, but I am going with Nikita Krylov,

Said Nurmagomedov VS Jonathan Martinez

The stake odds for this fight are 1.41 for Nurmagomenodov and 2.90 for Martinez, For this fight for me It surprises me Jonathan Martinez won against Cub Swanson, but surely Cub Swanson is near his pick back then really ready for retirement but I think that was his notable fight and for this fight, Said Nurmagomedov is more agile in doing things and he also got the height and reach advantage and because of his name he is fairly dominant with wrestling for sure so my pick is Said Nurmagomedov,
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March 11, 2023, 02:48:23 PM
Dana White is most probably not the best person to handle UFC in my opinion.
the guy thinks about himself and the money, and it's very difficult to see complaints in other fight sports, so you could see that the problem is in the UFC. one day I saw an interview of a fighter complaining that they didn't have health insurance and many other things he complained about, I don't know if that's true or not, but if it's true, I wondered why the UFC doesn't pay health insurance to its fighters. your athletes? he no doubt is making a lot of money thanks to these fighters. maybe as a newbie I'm wrong

There are certainly a lot of things that a fighter does not get in the UFC. We are still talking about the fighters not getting paid enough because literally, a heavyweight champion of the UFC complained about that. Otherwise, a lot of people might actually think this is not true and this might not have been discussed so much as well.

I am never going to agree with the fact that the UFC is not making enough money. The UFC is making more than enough money and they can easily give the fighters a lot more if they want to.

Dana White is definitely not in it for the fighters. You have to respect what he built and the UFC is a money printing machine so he’s been quite successful. However, if his goal was to be the best boss and have the happiest fighters, I’m sure he would be paying them 10 times what he is and I don’t think it would have that much effect on the UFC’s bottom line. Their investors have made billions and their fighters have made tens of thousands. Seems unbalanced.
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March 11, 2023, 11:36:37 AM
Dana White is most probably not the best person to handle UFC in my opinion.
the guy thinks about himself and the money, and it's very difficult to see complaints in other fight sports, so you could see that the problem is in the UFC. one day I saw an interview of a fighter complaining that they didn't have health insurance and many other things he complained about, I don't know if that's true or not, but if it's true, I wondered why the UFC doesn't pay health insurance to its fighters. your athletes? he no doubt is making a lot of money thanks to these fighters. maybe as a newbie I'm wrong

There are certainly a lot of things that a fighter does not get in the UFC. We are still talking about the fighters not getting paid enough because literally, a heavyweight champion of the UFC complained about that. Otherwise, a lot of people might actually think this is not true and this might not have been discussed so much as well.

I am never going to agree with the fact that the UFC is not making enough money. The UFC is making more than enough money and they can easily give the fighters a lot more if they want to.
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March 11, 2023, 08:47:22 AM
Said Nurmagomedov is massive favorite for me but odds are not great unless you play some special bet on him.
My pick in Multi Master Challenge is on Ariane Lipski to win and she is heavy underdog and it will be huge surprise, but I just like it.
I probably wont watch this event live but it is worth checking main card later.

Yeah, he has the potential to be a clean sweep, get the finish early on. However, I honestly think people put too much emphasis on the name, and just expect them to steam roll. Said, isn't Khabib, and definitely has shown several weaknesses. Now, I don't know if Jonathan Martinez is the man to put him to the sword, but he's got a decent record, and it should be at least a challenge. Also, I find Said a lot more risky than some of the others with an association of Khabib.

Ariane Lipski has the chance, but if I was to bet on her, I'd have to with the decision, hoping that she puts out enough volume. I don't she'll be finishing the fight, but there's a lot more value in the decision.

Jonathan Martinez is a decent fighter and is a live underdog in this spot.  My pick is still Nurmagomedov due to his durability and Martinez chin is kinda suspect but I'm not really sure why the books lined it this wide.  It should be closer imho.

Here's my lottery ticket after weigh ins.

Yan - Aldrich - Bautista
Add:  Dumas - Nurmagomedov - Harris
Add:  Spann - Williams
Add:  Petrino - Gravely
Add:  Volkov - Assuncao
Add:  Nam

^  It's really greasy.  Lol.  Pie shtters could be Yan, Baustista and Harris.  

UFC Vegas:  Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcSpY8Xr1A

UFC Vegas:  Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_3oqvCkpP4

Watch Yan throat punch Dvalirjffj.  Hard to spell the guy's name.  Cheesy

Petr Yan (136) vs Merab Dvalishvili (134.5)
Alexandr Romanov (264.5) vs Alexander Volkov (258)
Nikita Krylov (213) vs Ryan Spann (213)  215-pound catchweight
Austin Lingo (145.5) vs Ricardo Ramos (154)*
Jonathan Martinez (135.5) vs Said Nurmagomedov (136)
Vitor Petrino (204) vs Anton Turkalj (205)
Lukasz Brzeski (245) vs Karl Williams (240.5)
Raphael Assuncao (136) vs Davey Grant (136)
Sedriques Dumas (184.5) vs Josh Fremd (186)
Mario Bautista (136) vs Guido Cannetti (136)
Tony Gravely (136) vs Victor Henry (136)
JJ Aldrich (125.5) vs Ariane Lipski (125.5)
Tyson Nam (125.5) vs Bruno Silva (125.5)
Jared Gooden (177)* vs Carlston Harris (169.5)

A couple of guys missed weight.  One fight cancelled.
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March 11, 2023, 06:29:50 AM
Karl Williams - Lukasz Brzeski

Karl Williams, he is 33 years old and has had few fights, something like only 8 fights, I would say that he is still a rookie if we compare it with the number of fights that others have at 33 years old, but his career started in 2021, that it means that his career started recently and Karl Williams has a good performance, of the 8 fights he had, he managed to get 7 wins and lost in just one fight, with three wins by knockout and 4 by decision of the judge, his biggest weakness is on the ground, on the other side we have Lukasz Brzeski who is a fighter with many years of experience despite being 30 years old, that's because Lukasz Brzeski became a professional athlete in 2013, he has 5 wins by knockout and 2 wins for completion. looking at these two fighters I consider Lukasz Brzeski as the guy with the best chances of winning this fight. but the bookmakers are giving an advantage to Karl Williams with an odd of @1.44

Raphael Assunção - Davey Grant

Raphael Assunção is 40 years old, with a lot of experience, because he has 19 of his career, in these 19 years of his career he has had 37 fights, with 28 wins and 9 losses. Of his 28 wins, he won 10 by submission, 14 by decision and only 4 by knockout. On the other hand, his opponent, Davey Grant, has stats very similar to Raphael Assunção's. well, the 37 year old Davey Grant has been a professional athlete since 2008, but he has had few fights, with only 20 fights. out of 20 fights he managed to win 14 fights and lost in 6 fights. in his last fight he won by knockout, this is a very unpredictable fight

Sedriques Dumas - Josh Fremd

Sedriques Dumas is 27 years old and a fighter who started in 2020, he had 7 fights in which he won in all 7 fights, with 4 victories by knockout and 2 by submission and only one victory was by decision. on the other side we have Josh Fremd who is 29 years old and started in 2017, he had 13 fights, winning 9 fights and losing 4 fights. he has 4 wins by knockout, 3 wins by submission and 2 wins by decision. well, Josh Fremd in his last fight he lost, while Sedriques Dumas in his last fight he won, I think Sedriques Dumas will win in this fight

Mario Bautista - Guido Cannetti

Mario Bautista is 29 years old and has been a professional athlete for 6 years, he managed to have 13 fights with an impressive 11 wins and only 2 losses, with 5 wins by submission, 3 by knockout and 3 by decision, and has a streak of 3 wins. on the other hand, his opponent is very old, Guido Cannett is 47 years old, and he became a professional athlete in 2007 and in that period he had 16 fights, with 10 wins and 6 losses. he has 4 wins by submission, 4 by knockout and 2 by decision, coming from 1 win. my guess is that Mario Bautista won this fight. he is young and has better performance compared to Mario Bautista

Tyson Nam - Bruno Silva

Tyson Nam is 39 years old and started his career in 2006, managed to make 34 fights, with 21 wins and 12 losses and 1 draw, and in his last fight he won by knockout. meanwhile, his opponent Bruno Silva is 33 years old and has a long career that started in 2010, which resulted in 30 fights in which he won 22 fights, of the 22 fights silva had 19 wins by knockout and 3 by decision. in my opinion silva will win this fight

Victor Henry - Tony Gravely

Victor Henry is 35 years old and started his career in 2010, he had 28 fights in which he managed to get 22 wins and 6 losses. he got 6 wins by knockout, 8 wins by decision and 8 wins by submission, he's a very gifted guy in grappling, on the ground he's very dangerous. on the other side we have Tony Gravely who is 31 years old and started his career in 2015, managed to get 23 wins and 8 losses. he has 10 wins by knockout, 3 by submission and 10 by decision. this will be a very unpredictable fight, the bookmakers are favoring Victor Henry at odds of @1.69

Carlston Harris - Jared Gooden

Carlston Harris is 35 years old and started in 2011, and managed to have 22 fights, of the 22 fights he had, he won 17 fights and lost 5 fights. 7 wins were by decision, 5 by submission and by knockout. while his opponent Jared Gooden is 29 years old and started his career in 2015 and has 30 fights in which he won 22 fights and lost in 8 fights. Gooden is very skilled, he won 11 times by knockout, 6 by submission and 5 by decision. I think Gooden could win this game

Ariane Lipski - J. J. Aldrich

Ariane Lipski is 29 years old and started her professional career in 2013 and already has 22 fights. she has 6 wins by knockout, 5 by decision and 3 by submission. an interesting fact is that Ariane Lipski is coming off a loss in which she was knocked out in less than 2 minutes. she will fight J. J. Aldrich who is 30 years old and has 8 years as a professional fighter, but has had 16 fights in which she managed to win 11 fights and 5 defeats, 9 wins by decision and 2 by knockout. my opinion is that this will be a very difficult fight to predict the result.



Dana White is most probably not the best person to handle UFC in my opinion.

the guy thinks about himself and the money, and it's very difficult to see complaints in other fight sports, so you could see that the problem is in the UFC. one day I saw an interview of a fighter complaining that they didn't have health insurance and many other things he complained about, I don't know if that's true or not, but if it's true, I wondered why the UFC doesn't pay health insurance to its fighters. your athletes? he no doubt is making a lot of money thanks to these fighters. maybe as a newbie I'm wrong
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March 11, 2023, 03:39:54 AM
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UFC definitely encouraged the drama outside of the ring to sell tickets, and then publicly criticized everyone who jumped in the ring, and out of the ring at the end of the fight. I'm not sure boxing could get away with something like that, UFC still has that sort of attitude which actually prevents a lot of people from watching it. Personally, I avoided the UFC for a while due to me thinking it was too violent, and all it was about was hurting people. Obviously, I know better than that now, but I feel Dana's attitude to a lot of things doesn't exactly help its reputation.

Dana White is most probably not the best person to handle UFC in my opinion. I am not saying there are better people for that job. I am just saying that if he was a little less selfish, probably the UFC would have been a better reputable place for the fighters. A lot of fighters have been saying that they are not getting paid well enough.

You don't see these types of claims in boxing. In boxing either you are good enough for getting a lot of money or you are not. Someone like Francis Ngannou who was the heavyweight champion of that time when made the claim of not getting paid enough. It's never going to happen in boxing. I certainly don't think that it is the UFC not being able to pay the fighters more. I think it's just Dana White being Dana White.
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I do not think Jon Jones is the best fighter in the ufc any more but he was considered the best but he is not as good as he was before. I know he beat Gane without getting punched but I think it was the easiest way for him to win because Gane does not know how to wrestle. If he was against some one else I think he would have been tested more. I want to see Jon Jones against a wrestler to judge his boxing skills.
Jon Jones is not the best fighter but he destroyed the best heavyweight in the fight, many were doubting how Jon Jones would return after 3 years and fight a bigger stronger Gane and now everyone is complaining that he is not a good fighter when Jon made it look easy to remind everyone that there are levels. Why a wrestler to judge his boxing skills, this is MMA and he will find a way to win the fight.

Next event i am confused with Petr Yan who i thought would win a decision but Merab Dvalishvili is hyping up the fight and looks like he is confident to win the bout and since he is from the Aljamain Sterling camp, now i am having my doubts. Have to go through all the cards to make my picks.
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March 10, 2023, 06:49:00 PM
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That's just how it is when you are hated by the owner Dana White but you win the championship and as soon as someone who looks like doing something unbelievable, you are quickly replaced without even putting to second thought your hard work and sacrifices. That's why many already left their MMA league and pursue their pro career in other MMA competitions where they get enough acknowledgment and merits.  It's not just about the money from now on, but the disrespect is so awful that they didn't even consider giving a few months for Islam to wear that title and he strips him just like that.

Well if it's just through voting then there are many that surely voted for Jon Jones after his win against Ciryl Gane so there is no point for Alexander Volkanovski and Islam Makhachev getting upset or frustrated about it, because if it's just the case the UFC hands are really tied behind them, or they don't have full control about it,

But still, this is kind of disrespectful to both fighters for Jon Jones to come along without any given hardship in making it to the top and being champion in the highest division of the UFC, is what people are asking, and right now I think that Jon Jones has ultimately changed that division in incorporating his style because for me the Heavyweight Division is very one dimensional, with full of fighters that are brawlers that could finish the match in 1 punch or strike but incorporating Ciryl Gane 1st have incorporated a style that is pretty much different and more technical that has an advantage with fighters that are aggressive, but Jon Jones have landed to the division and the ground game is more likely introduced, I think the lack of ground game knowledge for this division surely a lot of fighters will likely to have problems with it just like we seen in Ciryl Gane's case,

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To clear your confusion, pound for pound list is not made by the UFC. There is a voting panel which includes media personals and they create the fighter rankings and pound for pound list and the list is created through voting by couple of dozen MMA media outlets and UFC is not unanimously involved in that and to refresh your memory Jon Jones was the pound for pound king for years until he vacated the belt, 15 title fights and undefeated for a decade as he is in the UFC from 2008, now with the win in Heavyweight he is considered the best ever to do MMA and you think including him in the pound for pound rankings is not fair to other fighters  Shocked.

Much Appreciated, I am aware of the rankings for fighters in any division but for the Pound 4 pound ranking is truly new to me, I really don't put much attention to the pound 4 pounds and I really thought that the UFC was really in control of things because it was their site after all, and with the Jon Jones being on the top back when he is still champion, I think I was still starting to just figure out MMA in my own, or I was just starting with engaging with the topic about it so Jon Jones was really not relevant to me until he vacated that belt on the Light Heavyweight so Jan Błachowicz was the only Light Heavyweight I really have known, that is why I am not a Jon Jones fan until I have seen his highlights, but still not a huge fan, but much appreciated in what you are telling me right now, so thanks about it,
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March 10, 2023, 05:22:49 PM
Said Nurmagomedov is massive favorite for me but odds are not great unless you play some special bet on him.
My pick in Multi Master Challenge is on Ariane Lipski to win and she is heavy underdog and it will be huge surprise, but I just like it.
I probably wont watch this event live but it is worth checking main card later.

Yeah, he has the potential to be a clean sweep, get the finish early on. However, I honestly think people put too much emphasis on the name, and just expect them to steam roll. Said, isn't Khabib, and definitely has shown several weaknesses. Now, I don't know if Jonathan Martinez is the man to put him to the sword, but he's got a decent record, and it should be at least a challenge. Also, I find Said a lot more risky than some of the others with an association of Khabib.

Ariane Lipski has the chance, but if I was to bet on her, I'd have to with the decision, hoping that she puts out enough volume. I don't she'll be finishing the fight, but there's a lot more value in the decision.
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March 10, 2023, 05:18:55 PM
Jon Jones is considered as the greatest fighter ever to compete in MMA and now he actively moved to a higher weight division and won the belt and he is now the pound for pound best, when he left and vacated the title, he was the pound for pound best for years and now he is back and he just reclaimed his position.
I do not think Jon Jones is the best fighter in the ufc any more but he was considered the best but he is not as good as he was before. I know he beat Gane without getting punched but I think it was the easiest way for him to win because Gane does not know how to wrestle. If he was against some one else I think he would have been tested more. I want to see Jon Jones against a wrestler to judge his boxing skills.
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March 10, 2023, 03:48:57 PM
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All this UFC rankings doesn't make any sense.
Jon Jones was not fighting for years, now he won in one fight and he jumped on first place  Sad
Jon Jones is considered as the greatest fighter ever to compete in MMA and now he actively moved to a higher weight division and won the belt and he is now the pound for pound best, when he left and vacated the title, he was the pound for pound best for years and now he is back and he just reclaimed his position.

Many people are saying that he used drugs in his previous fights and I am sure he used steroids in last few years to get more muscle mass.
Jones is a good fighter despite all this, but he cheated before and I am just waiting for someone to accuse him again.
It is not a surprise that Jon Jones is a cocaine user and parties heavily even during training camps and the spikes found during testing are now cleared by the testing authority as it gives no added benefit and since Jon Jones had the money and lawyers he fought in court and hence USADA is forced to change the testing rules which will benefit every sports personals that are tested. If you look throughout his fighting career, he is not a muscular person, he is called Bones for a reason Cheesy.

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These two probably think that the UFC has scammed them, they have done a lot to surely get to the ranking that they deserve and that was with hard work but Jon Jones with just 1 fight now become the P4P number one even though Ciryl Gane isn't near the top, and eventually, Jon Jones beating Gane suddenly taken the pound-4-pound throne, I think many were pretty much confused about how UFC is ranking this even though they are a fan of Jon Jones or not it really shocking after the Islam Makhachev VS Alexander Volkonovski fight Makhachev also thought that he was in the number 1 spot but all of a sudden a 3 years absent inside the Octagon Jon Jones got a title fight and become the number 1 I think the UFC needs to explained this it is pretty much confusing actually
To clear your confusion, pound for pound list is not made by the UFC. There is a voting panel which includes media personals and they create the fighter rankings and pound for pound list and the list is created through voting by couple of dozen MMA media outlets and UFC is not unanimously involved in that and to refresh your memory Jon Jones was the pound for pound king for years until he vacated the belt, 15 title fights and undefeated for a decade as he is in the UFC from 2008, now with the win in Heavyweight he is considered the best ever to do MMA and you think including him in the pound for pound rankings is not fair to other fighters  Shocked.

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No doubt that Jones cement his place in UFC history, but hard to say he is currently best fighter in UFC. Not every fighters, that is in UFC hall of fame was on p4p first place. For example Ronda Rousey, that probably introduced the world women MMA or at least was the first chick that brought women mma to a next level, is a member of UFC hall of fame, but never was in women p4p. There were even no p4p rating for women during her prime Smiley
Who in the UFC will defeat Jon Jones in any weight class right now in your opinion, he vacated the Light Heavweight belt he was holding from 2011 and how many champions emerged in that division in a short period of time after he vacated the belt, before he became champion the belt used to change hands often and i am following MMA from PRIDE days Cheesy and that was his dominance inside the cage. If Jon Jones did not mess outside the cage, Daniel Cormier would not be a double champion nor would we see any other champions unless he vacates and his name is Jon Jones Wink.


 
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March 10, 2023, 02:15:40 PM
I haven't got any massive favourites; Said I'm actually pretty worried despite his name, and reputation. Romanov I'm hoping gets the win, and Petr Yan always starts slow so he's a massive risk, even in a five rounder.
Said Nurmagomedov is massive favorite for me but odds are not great unless you play some special bet on him.
My pick in Multi Master Challenge is on Ariane Lipski to win and she is heavy underdog and it will be huge surprise, but I just like it.
I probably wont watch this event live but it is worth checking main card later.
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March 10, 2023, 11:12:12 AM
^  I hate you.  Sad  Now I'm having second thoughts on my top ticket..  I put Harris on as I like him in this spot.  I like him a lot actually.  :/
Honestly, I wouldn't doubt yourself over my picks, I've included some risky one's in there. Harris probably does it, but I'm not betting so I've been a lot more risky than I would if I were betting. If I was betting this weekend, Harris would likely be included, as I often do different bets to my actual predictions. Since, I sometimes go for the safer options in the bets, despite feeling that a fight will go another way.

I do think it's a risky fight though, and think it'll be rather close. Closer than the odds suggest at least.


Dana White is a piece of shit. Whatever he sees money he grabs onto it. He does not think twice about anyone else. Remember the Conor vs Khabib fight? The fight was promoted by violence. That's something that should never have been done. Because we all know that violence is only going to increase if you promote something through it. He saw that Jon Jones' fight was really hyped. So he just took the chance and he is trying to squeeze every penny out of it.
UFC definitely encouraged the drama outside of the ring to sell tickets, and then publicly criticized everyone who jumped in the ring, and out of the ring at the end of the fight. I'm not sure boxing could get away with something like that, UFC still has that sort of attitude which actually prevents a lot of people from watching it. Personally, I avoided the UFC for a while due to me thinking it was too violent, and all it was about was hurting people. Obviously, I know better than that now, but I feel Dana's attitude to a lot of things doesn't exactly help its reputation.

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March 10, 2023, 10:34:29 AM
Maybe you are right, they could be rating along with the hype train for Jones and his return to the octagon, and with that 1 win against Ciryl Gane that was currently the number 1 in the heavyweight division people thought that he is the real GOAT, upon getting this number 1 in the P4P many are really upset and not really buying this kind of preposterous kind of things that the UFC is giving them,
That's just how it is when you are hated by the owner Dana White but you win the championship and as soon as someone who looks like doing something unbelievable, you are quickly replaced without even putting to second thought your hard work and sacrifices. That's why many already left their MMA league and pursue their pro career in other MMA competitions where they get enough acknowledgment and merits.  It's not just about the money from now on, but the disrespect is so awful that they didn't even consider giving a few months for Islam to wear that title and he strips him just like that.

Dana White is a piece of shit. Whatever he sees money he grabs onto it. He does not think twice about anyone else. Remember the Conor vs Khabib fight? The fight was promoted by violence. That's something that should never have been done. Because we all know that violence is only going to increase if you promote something through it. He saw that Jon Jones' fight was really hyped. So he just took the chance and he is trying to squeeze every penny out of it.
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