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March 13, 2023, 06:53:48 PM
I love UFC design of new poster for upcoming UFC 286 event, and I think this can be one of the best events in this year.
This poster looks like a paper money bills design with Usman, Edwards, Gaethje and Fiziev Smiley
My early prediction is that Kamaru Usman will win this time, but I want to wait few more days and watch prefight interviews.
It's crazy that bookmakers made Usman such a big favorite when we know how Edwards won last time, so there is value for betting on Edwards again, and maybe this time we see longer fight.
Love the design too.

Usman is the favorite, the champion Edwards is the underdog. Hmmm. Looks like the same thing as last time. Almost the same line before Edwards snatched the belt from the former champion.
I like it though. For high-risk-takers like me, these are the odds we look forward to.
I took the bet for Edwards last time and he made it happen in the last round with less than a minute remaining. I doubt he will repeat the same thing as last time, he should come out better or Usman will just take it back from him.
I am more inclined to bet for Edwards but I will be waiting too for changes in the odds. 5 more days.
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March 13, 2023, 06:41:19 PM
I love UFC design of new poster for upcoming UFC 286 event, and I think this can be one of the best events in this year.
This poster looks like a paper money bills design with Usman, Edwards, Gaethje and Fiziev Smiley
My early prediction is that Kamaru Usman will win this time, but I want to wait few more days and watch prefight interviews.
It's crazy that bookmakers made Usman such a big favorite when we know how Edwards won last time, so there is value for betting on Edwards again, and maybe this time we see longer fight.
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March 13, 2023, 06:36:04 PM
The match between Gaethje and Fiziev excites me more than the main event.  Fiziev has been one of my favorite fighters in the roster since his win vs Marc Diakiese...  I bet for Diakiese in that one.  Cheesy  But I was pretty impressed with Fiziev.
Yeah, I'm not sure why Justin is getting overlooked so much. He's currently sitting around 2.90 for a straight out win, which in my opinion is way too wide. I think the fights far more competitive than the bookies are putting out.

For Vettori vs Dolidze, I feel like Dolidze is a live dog.  Would I bet it or put in my lottery ticket?  I don't know...  :/  
Vettori grinds out a win for me. I'll probably be going for a decision win by him, as I think he hasn't got enough to finish the fight, but he's a dog, and definitely knows how to grind fights out. Depending, highly on the value the bookies give on the decision win.

As for Mokaev, remember that Malcom Gordon gave him a hard time on the ground during Mokaev's last time in the cage.  If it went the distance, it could've been a split decision that would've gone either way.  I'll watch it again at MMACore.
Yeah, as far as I remember Mokeav did get the takedown quite a bit, but he couldn't keep him down. Mokeav is obviously very talented, but he's just not a finisher, at least when he starts fighting against better competitors than he has done previously.


I think Usman is going to try and finish it early via ground and pound or just like what he did Masvidal via KO and give one back to Edwards.
I think he'll be playing a risky game if he does that. Obviously, he's good enough, but Leon will be hoping Usman comes in reckless, and could very well get caught again. Leon's kicks are elite, and incredibly quick. If Usman goes in there, and plays safe he probably gets the win 9 times out of 10. He was dominating that fight up until that head kick, I don't want to take anything from Leon because it was executed perfectly, but it was likely just the stars aligning for him. Usman, clearly had him beat, and to be honest I don't see anything different happening from the first fight, except Usman managing to stay safe up until the end.

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March 13, 2023, 02:50:30 PM

Here we go again with a very dominant fighter who had been a champ for a very long time and is still young compare to Edwards who has a low KO rate.

Will we be seeing a new Usman? The last fight could be traumatic for him and his fight might not be the same anymore.
If this ends to be a loss for Usman again, he needs to move to LHW and fight someone else there. It's not his space anymore.
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March 13, 2023, 07:48:52 AM
This card gonna be fire. Main card looks like there will be so many fireworks. Beside main card I'm interested in Dusko Todorovic fight. That fight won't go full distance I think. Both of the guys need a win.

Man! just after Jones, we have this great fight next Saturday? wow that's amazing the main card really deserves a trilogy and it is exciting, I wonder how will Usman regain his honor this time and will he be able to block those kinds of kicks from Edwards?

He just got by surprise with that kick and it would be an amazing upgrade for him if he will able to win this fight maybe we might see another fight if that happens. that would be the first Quadrilogy in the UFC and I tell you, that would be worth watching as well.
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March 13, 2023, 07:25:38 AM

UFC 286: Edwards vs. Usman 3



MAIN EVENT

Leon Edwards vs. Kamaru Usman

CO-MAIN EVENT

Justin Gaethje vs. Rafael Fiziev

MAIN CARD

Marvin Vettori vs. Roman Dolidze

PRELIMINARY CARD

Muhammad Mokaev vs. Jafel Filho

WOW! I never thought that the next event will be this one in this event I think the main event is surely a juicy one for me I will breakdown the cards for this event and then I would like to add up the next event after this because for me all event after this one will be juicier, starting with

Leon Edwards VS Kamaru Usman

We all know that the following rounds 2 - 4 were all for Kamaru Usman the 1st round was for Leon Edwards in their 2nd bout while that nasty kick was from the 5th round that shocked everyone even Kamaru Usman has seen stunned and can not play his words that he lost now in this 3rd fight we could see if Leon Edwards could win another great KO/TKO of Kamaru Usman will retain his title with some shocking comeback,

Justin Gaethje VS Rafael Fiziev

I would see another Justin Gaethje technical performance for sure this is going to be exciting while Rafael Fiziev might get the power in his punch while Gaethje will surely rely on his fight IQ the most, I really want to watch Justin Gaethje in this epic performance and what he can do against Fiziev,

Marvin Vettori VS Roman Dolidze

Now this is really interesting I don't really see some technical aspect between these two fighters but I am surely interested in this aswell if Marvin Vettori defeated Paolo Costa that is much huge and have a weight advantage over him then I think he can surely pummel Dolidze, but I will check the previous fights of Roman Dolidze, I might have missed something,

Muhammad Mokaev VS Jafel Filho

The Kid Khabib is what I am looking forward to seeing here, that incredible suplex that he is doing is what I am expected to see but Filho is not a push that is why I would really like to see him in a hard fight and this one is a great one to try what Kid Khabib can do,


The match between Gaethje and Fiziev excites me more than the main event.  Fiziev has been one of my favorite fighters in the roster since his win vs Marc Diakiese...  I bet for Diakiese in that one.  Cheesy  But I was pretty impressed with Fiziev.

For Vettori vs Dolidze, I feel like Dolidze is a live dog.  Would I bet it or put in my lottery ticket?  I don't know...  :/  

As for Mokaev, remember that Malcom Gordon gave him a hard time on the ground during Mokaev's last time in the cage.  If it went the distance, it could've been a split decision that would've gone either way.  I'll watch it again at MMACore.

Kamaru Usman is likely going to be much safer this time, he'll likely look to chain wrestle, while Leon has good take down defense, he still isn't the best at wrestling. Obviously, it was a bit of a shock moment last time when Leon manged to knock him out, but I can't see that happening again. The good thing is, Usman was at 1.40 which is decent odds considering he pretty much dominated that fight up until he was knocked out. We'll have to get closer to the event to see what the odds are on him winning a decision, which is what I think will be the value bet here.

I think Usman is going to try and finish it early via ground and pound or just like what he did Masvidal via KO and give one back to Edwards.
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March 13, 2023, 07:07:29 AM
This year we have a tendency of underdogs winning big fights. This only makes UFC more interesting to watch, as you never know what a surprise move would a fighter perform. I would not be surprise if Edwards manages to upset Usman for the second time. Besides, Edwards is fighting on his motherland, that is a little extra help for him.
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March 13, 2023, 06:31:14 AM
Kamaru Usman is likely going to be much safer this time, he'll likely look to chain wrestle, while Leon has good take down defense, he still isn't the best at wrestling. Obviously, it was a bit of a shock moment last time when Leon manged to knock him out, but I can't see that happening again. The good thing is, Usman was at 1.40 which is decent odds considering he pretty much dominated that fight up until he was knocked out. We'll have to get closer to the event to see what the odds are on him winning a decision, which is what I think will be the value bet here.
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March 13, 2023, 05:40:59 AM

UFC 286: Edwards vs. Usman 3



MAIN EVENT

Leon Edwards vs. Kamaru Usman

CO-MAIN EVENT

Justin Gaethje vs. Rafael Fiziev

MAIN CARD

Marvin Vettori vs. Roman Dolidze

PRELIMINARY CARD

Muhammad Mokaev vs. Jafel Filho

WOW! I never thought that the next event will be this one in this event I think the main event is surely a juicy one for me I will breakdown the cards for this event and then I would like to add up the next event after this because for me all event after this one will be juicier, starting with

Leon Edwards VS Kamaru Usman

We all know that the following rounds 2 - 4 were all for Kamaru Usman the 1st round was for Leon Edwards in their 2nd bout while that nasty kick was from the 5th round that shocked everyone even Kamaru Usman has seen stunned and can not play his words that he lost now in this 3rd fight we could see if Leon Edwards could win another great KO/TKO of Kamaru Usman will retain his title with some shocking comeback,

Justin Gaethje VS Rafael Fiziev

I would see another Justin Gaethje technical performance for sure this is going to be exciting while Rafael Fiziev might get the power in his punch while Gaethje will surely rely on his fight IQ the most, I really want to watch Justin Gaethje in this epic performance and what he can do against Fiziev,

Marvin Vettori VS Roman Dolidze

Now this is really interesting I don't really see some technical aspect between these two fighters but I am surely interested in this aswell if Marvin Vettori defeated Paolo Costa that is much huge and have a weight advantage over him then I think he can surely pummel Dolidze, but I will check the previous fights of Roman Dolidze, I might have missed something,

Muhammad Mokaev VS Jafel Filho

The Kid Khabib is what I am looking forward to seeing here, that incredible suplex that he is doing is what I am expected to see but Filho is not a push that is why I would really like to see him in a hard fight and this one is a great one to try what Kid Khabib can do,
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March 13, 2023, 05:16:40 AM
Petr Yan actually is doing the same - he is (or probably was) in Thailand, training in Tiger Muay Thai. That is Petrs problem, he is to confident in himself, he gets same camps. That is why he looses by split decisions. Thanks to his skills two last fights were split decisions instead of unanimous. I think he is surrounded by wrong guys partially. He should try changing his fight plan instead of relying much on striking only. Aljo read him like a book with that in their second find and was controlling him smiling. Merab is going to do the same. If Petr wants to win, he should rush from the beginning, stop his usual slow start and increased tempo, otherwise Merab would win because he would take first two rounds, show some control during third round and win. P.S. Will it be 3 or 5 round fight ?

Happened exactly as I thought, just screwed by final decision. Petr was completely dominated by Merab. Reason is simple - Petr is surrounded by wrong people imho. They told him that he "almost win" , "bad judging", "UFC are against Russians" and etc. Petr believes in that continued to do the same during camps. Going to Thailand to train in Tiger Muay Thai isnt working anymore. Imho the real reasons why he trained there fruits, weather, sun and sea. Petr isnt hungry anymore, too much confident and relaxed. Many have told him, that he should go to Dagestan, to mountains, to train in severe conditions. That he should stop his "morning training, party with family, evening training, party with family" routine.

Petr should go from heaven to earth. He should understand that he isnt a big star yet. Who has he beaten? Old Faber and Aldo. Won title and now can relax? First ever defence and he did not cope with the stress.
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March 13, 2023, 05:11:15 AM
This card gonna be fire. Main card looks like there will be so many fireworks. Beside main card I'm interested in Dusko Todorovic fight. That fight won't go full distance I think. Both of the guys need a win.
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March 13, 2023, 03:43:01 AM
I totally missed the UFC Fight Night Yan vs. Dvalishvili but let's move on to the main event for the UFC,

UFC 286: Edwards vs. Usman 3



DATE and TIME: March 18, 2023, Saturday at 01:00 PM ET
EVENT: O2 Arena
LOCATION: London, England

MAIN EVENT

Leon Edwards vs. Kamaru Usman

CO-MAIN EVENT

Justin Gaethje vs. Rafael Fiziev

MAIN CARD

Gunnar Nelson vs. Bryan Barberena
Jennifer Maia vs. Casey O'Neill
Marvin Vettori vs. Roman Dolidze

PRELIMINARY CARD

Jack Shore vs. Makwan Amirkhani
Chris Duncan vs. Omar Morales
Sam Patterson vs. Yanal Ashmoz
Muhammad Mokaev vs. Jafel Filho
Lerone Murphy vs. Gabriel Santos
Christian Leroy Duncan vs. Duško Todorović
Jake Hadley vs. Malcolm Gordon
Joanne Wood vs. Luana Carolina
Jai Herbert vs. Ľudovít Klein
Veronica Hardy vs. Juliana Miller

All given information and the image were from Tapology: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/95408-ufc-286
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March 12, 2023, 05:53:04 PM
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This is going on against Russian fighters for a while, the judges are messing up with the results and Petr Yan felt this in his last fight against Sean O'Malley and there is no way that he would have lost that but this fight was different as Merab Dvalishvili was on a mission to create some record for the most take down attempts and his stamina is incredible and Petr Yan is on a three fight loosing streak.

These type of stupid judging against Russian fighters has to stop as it is messing up with our bets and real money is lost. Have to go for round bets if Russian fighters are involved rather than moneyline to be on the safe side.

Well, I really don't have any issue with Merab Dvalishvili VS Petr Yan fight because that was total domination for Dvalishvili but with the Said Nurmagomedov VS Jonathan Martinez that was an utter disgrace, it was clear who have one and got the most strikes if you will look at the fight stats for that fight it was a one-sided win for Said Nurmagomedov, but surely I really don't know how the judges get out from this mistake yet again, But Said Nurmagomedov shouldn't let the judges make the decision on who won the fight, he has executed good submission on Martinez, but because of the time he never really get's a chance,

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When Jon Jones was stripped or vacated the title,  Daniel Cormier became the Champion, then Jan Błachowicz and after that Glover Teixeira, Jiří Procházka and now the title is held by Jamahal Hill. So 5 Champions just because Jon Jones vacated the title.

Actually, Jan Blachowicz was the champion that I was familiar with when I started following the UFC, I have seen Daniel Cormier as an announcer but as a champion, I may have missed that part, but I really know that Cormier is once a fighter like Jon Jones, and a great grappler aswell, well I don't really have bad comments for Jon Jones is that I was not really familiar with him,

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It was a great fight, I still can believe that Petr Yan lose, he was looking like an easy money bet in the weigh-in and the face-off. But in the end, it was a great fight, At the end of round one it was clear that Merab was dominating the fight, and Petr was looking really frustrated.

And another great fight was the one of Nurmagomedov, no one expect to see him lose against Martinez, but that was another great fight, it was one of those great events to bet on the underdogs, and I didn't feel comfortable to bet on this one because I know anything could happen.

Merab Dvalishvili has won, now what is next for him, I think he will not challenge Aljamain Sterling for the championship because they are friends to me I think Merab Dvalishvili will be the gatekeeper if you want to have a title shot against Sterling I really think this is what Aljamain Sterling wants and until he vacates that title I think that will be the time Merab Dvalishvili can take it, well this is just my theory, and Yes it was a frustration for Petr Yan he is a sitting duck,

Said Nurmagomedov, may appeal on his loss incident that if you will watch the fight again it is clear as day that the judge misjudge again this is what's happening in the UFC, a judge can favor his favorite fighter, not because they are Russian or something because that issue can surely go on, but I think it is happening to a lot of fighters not only for Russian ones,
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March 12, 2023, 03:14:37 PM
It was surprise for me to see Merab Dvalishvili winning in main event against Petr Yan, but I think real problem for Yan is his head.
Everything started when he lost fight against Aljamain Sterling because of illegal knee, after that he was not the same man in octagon anymore, he won one time but lost three fights after that.
Interesting that Aljamain Sterling and Merab Dvalishvili has some friendly agreement not to fight each other, but let's see if things change now.
It wasn't really a surprise for me. I don't really gamble but I believed that Merab would win and stakes were also too attractive for me to bet on him.
I'll tell you why I believed he would win against Yan:
First of all, Merab Dvalishvili has amazing stamina and is very aggressive fighter with skills in wrestling.
Secondly, there was a lot of pressure on Merab in terms of national pride. Idk if you know but Georgia is a very small country that once was a part of Soviet Union and recently in 2008 Russia waged a war against them and occupied their territory. So, as far as I know, Georgians don't like Russians and this match was a match of pride for both of them but especially for Dvalishvili.

I don't know if anyone noticed but when the match started, Dvalishvili gave him a friendly punch and instead of returning a friendly punch, Yan kept his hand with him and ignored Dvalishvili's friendly action.

Good luck to Dvalishvili! Amazing fighter!
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March 12, 2023, 03:00:06 PM
Said Nurmagedov started the first round fast and was very eager, but Martinez was overworking him with close range clinches. The final round was decisive, with Martinez in total control. Martinez is now ranked with this match. Nurmagedov almost couldn't raise his hand in the last round, he looked like he couldn't breathe for a while. I didn't know his cardio was that bad.

The fact that Dvalishvili constantly had to defend his takedowns slowed down Petr so much. 49 take down attempts 11 takedowns. To be a favourite. The side was before the match, but the former champion clearly won every round. He worked very well especially for this adventure, it was obvious. I had great respect for him to fight so intensely for the full twenty-five minutes on the cardio machine. Petry Yan has suffered four losses in his last five games, and the former champion is in complete decline.
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March 12, 2023, 02:05:18 PM
Dana White is definitely not in it for the fighters. You have to respect what he built and the UFC is a money printing machine so he’s been quite successful. However, if his goal was to be the best boss and have the happiest fighters, I’m sure he would be paying them 10 times what he is and I don’t think it would have that much effect on the UFC’s bottom line. Their investors have made billions and their fighters have made tens of thousands. Seems unbalanced.

My point is, first of all, the UFC is making money. They are making quite a good amount of money to pay the investors and also the fighters. But they are not paying the fighters as well as they should. I also do not believe that there is enough transparency between the earning of the fighters and also the earning of the UFC. That's because Dana White wants a huge amount of money for himself.


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Unlike boxing, UFC is reinvesting in building performance institute where fighters can train and will have all the benefits including health care and coaching staffs and we have 3 Mexican champions as they built one in Mexico and they are building these performance institutes around the globe in developing new fighters. All the main event fighters are earning millions of dollars per fight and if you compare the boxing model the prelim fighters are earning much more in the UFC than in Boxing.

I honestly believe that if the fighters actually were earning so much, like in boxing, there wouldn't have been any complaints. But the fighters are complaining. It honestly hurts to see some random YouTuber turned boxer, earning a huge amount of money from boxing when some of the best of the best fighters in the UFC are not earning as much as they should. The UFC has continued its journey through some tough times. But I certainly think they should pay the fighters a little more.
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March 12, 2023, 02:04:13 PM
It was surprise for me to see Merab Dvalishvili winning in main event against Petr Yan, but I think real problem for Yan is his head.
Everything started when he lost fight against Aljamain Sterling because of illegal knee, after that he was not the same man in octagon anymore, he won one time but lost three fights after that.
Interesting that Aljamain Sterling and Merab Dvalishvili has some friendly agreement not to fight each other, but let's see if things change now.
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March 12, 2023, 01:31:27 PM
Petr Yan VS Merab Dvalishvili - ROUND 5 DECISION - WIN

It was a great fight, I still can believe that Petr Yan lose, he was looking like an easy money bet in the weigh-in and the face-off. But in the end, it was a great fight, At the end of round one it was clear that Merab was dominating the fight, and Petr was looking really frustrated.

And another great fight was the one of Nurmagomedov, no one expect to see him lose against Martinez, but that was another great fight, it was one of those great events to bet on the underdogs, and I didn't feel comfortable to bet on this one because I know anything could happen.
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March 12, 2023, 08:27:54 AM
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I do not think Jon Jones is the best fighter in the ufc any more but he was considered the best but he is not as good as he was before. I know he beat Gane without getting punched but I think it was the easiest way for him to win because Gane does not know how to wrestle. If he was against some one else I think he would have been tested more. I want to see Jon Jones against a wrestler to judge his boxing skills.
He is considered the best ever to do MMA and you think he is not the best fighter now, tell me one fighter that has the skill set to defeat Jon Jones in any division in the fight world, not just the UFC and then we can have a debate on that.

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 I was just starting with engaging with the topic about it so Jon Jones was really not relevant to me until he vacated that belt on the Light Heavyweight so Jan Błachowicz was the only Light Heavyweight I really have known, that is why I am not a Jon Jones fan until I have seen his highlights, but still not a huge fan, but much appreciated in what you are telling me right now, so thanks about it,
When Jon Jones was stripped or vacated the title,  Daniel Cormier became the Champion, then Jan Błachowicz and after that Glover Teixeira, Jiří Procházka and now the title is held by Jamahal Hill. So 5 Champions just because Jon Jones vacated the title.

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Dana White is definitely not in it for the fighters. You have to respect what he built and the UFC is a money printing machine so he’s been quite successful. However, if his goal was to be the best boss and have the happiest fighters, I’m sure he would be paying them 10 times what he is and I don’t think it would have that much effect on the UFC’s bottom line. Their investors have made billions and their fighters have made tens of thousands. Seems unbalanced.
Unlike boxing, UFC is reinvesting in building performance institute where fighters can train and will have all the benefits including health care and coaching staffs and we have 3 Mexican champions as they built one in Mexico and they are building these performance institutes around the globe in developing new fighters. All the main event fighters are earning millions of dollars per fight and if you compare the boxing model the prelim fighters are earning much more in the UFC than in Boxing.

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These type of stupid judging against Russian fighters has to stop as it is messing up with our bets and real money is lost. Have to go for round bets if Russian fighters are involved rather than moneyline to be on the safe side.
Judging is a real issue and a blatant robbery as Said Nurmagomedov won the fight and this has to change.
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