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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 09, 2023, 10:46:08 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 09, 2023, 04:56:27 AM

Recently I've heard that Charles Oliveira once against is calling for Conor McGregor. Oliveira told, that he is ready to Conor in his hometown, Dublin. Charles said that this fight is going to have huge attendance and lots of PPV sales. But, he is already to fight Conor in Brazil. Even though Conor is bad in grappling, Oliveira gets knocked down in every fight or at least eats a lot of punches. I think their fight is going to be close and Conor has all chances of knocking out Oliveira.

I think he just wants the revenge that he deserves or maybe even the money involve in McGregors head because we all know what Conor McGregor is worth, he is like Floyd Mayweather in MMA literal walking cash so I think that Charles Oliveira wants to fight big cash fighters until Islam Makhachev retired, I don't really know what Charles Oliveira's going to do next but I really think he is avoiding a Rematch against Islam Makhachev,

Once Conor said, that any fighter that fights him becomes a millionaire after. That might be the true motives Oliveira wants to fight him so badly ( I think in every third interview Charles calls McGregor for a fight). On the other hand we all know how greedy UFC is and how they pay only hundred thousands their top fighters. Hope that I am wrong. I believe real reason is that Charles has already fought everyone in top5, except Dariush (not a real challenge for him imho) and others Fiziev, RDA, Gamrot are not a real thread to him.

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Quote from: klidex on January 09, 2023, 11:10:56 AM

Actually, Conor McGregor is a very tough fighter and has pretty good skills. I myself used to admire McGregor's fighting skills, but after he was at the top and famous, he began to have an arrogant and arrogant attitude.
However, his arrogance stopped when he fought a fighter from Russia, Khabib Nurmagomedov, and after his defeat, McGregor started not to be heard anymore, even news about him rarely appeared.
But for now McGregor is back with a better version, I'm sure he can describe the world of UFC wrestling with his name.

Well, Nate Diaz was the 1st to defeat him and it was his Welterweight debut. Fight of the Night, but he takes his revenge and wins back against Nate Diaz and gaining a more Arrogant persona, however, yes it was Khabib Nurmagomedov that has humbled him, but Dustin Poirier had the most win over him, well I really think he is back again because of money, and you can tell that he is fighting just because of money, and we all know that people are tend to be blinded by money when they really needed the most,

Quote from: tokeweed on January 09, 2023, 11:18:58 AM

At this point in his career I think it's better for him to take a tad longer breaks than what he was doing in the past. Even though he's just 31, if you base it on 'fight age' he's prolly like over 40 years old. He's been through a lot in his career and has been an a lot of tough matches. He's had tough matches going up during his title run and he's had tough matches after the title run when he lost against Adesanya.

I will tell you this tho.. I think he'll retire if he loses vs Imavov.

I get the same feeling over him, that he might hang the UFC glove for good, and yes most of his fight surely goes the distance and he has shown remarkable durability and chin over all of his fights and has never been gassed out at all, pertaining his surname Gastelum I assume but most of his fight is mostly losses via decision but never failed to withstand those brawls, even withstanding Jared Cannonier's strike surely Kelvin Gastelum is like non-other, but for sure this could be his last fight if he losses to Imavov for sure because this is his 3rd losing streak from a win and another 3 losing streak that he has,

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Upcoming UFC event Imavov vs Gastelum should be interesting to watch, and I don't mean just main event.
Starting from prelims we can see Sijara Eubanks and Priscila Cachoeira, and I would starting watching early.
There is Umar Nurmagomedov with his perfect 15-0 record against Raoni Barcelos, and I think we are going to see a lot of early fight finishes.
I am not sure about main event outcome yet but odds on Nassourdine Imavov are not bad at all.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on January 09, 2023, 04:47:36 AM

Gastelum haven't fight for around one and half a year,

At this point in his career I think it's better for him to take a tad longer breaks than what he was doing in the past. Even though he's just 31, if you base it on 'fight age' he's prolly like over 40 years old. He's been through a lot in his career and has been an a lot of tough matches. He's had tough matches going up during his title run and he's had tough matches after the title run when he lost against Adesanya.

I will tell you this tho.. I think he'll retire if he loses vs Imavov.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 08, 2023, 04:49:01 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 08, 2023, 07:03:44 AM

Can we move on from that alcoholic misbehavior to professional fighting? Nothing new happened. It is so expected that when you alcohol enters your blood and brain, you might behave inappropriate. Such things (violence due to alcohol) happen all over the world. Everyone knows that it is bad, but keep on doing same all over again.

I'll admit I don't really care. Cancel culture has us wanting to condemn him and ruin his life, but he was slapped first and as bad as it is to say, he pretty much responded with the same force. Feminists would be proud... At this point though, he's been embarrassed, his wife has accepted partial blame, and they both just want to move on.

I am interested in Conor McGregor. He looks to be slimming down and getting back into fighting shape. This summer I'm sure he'll bring one hell of a show to PPV. A must watch for sure.

Actually, Conor McGregor is a very tough fighter and has pretty good skills. I myself used to admire McGregor's fighting skills, but after he was at the top and famous, he began to have an arrogant and arrogant attitude.
However, his arrogance stopped when he fought a fighter from Russia, Khabib Nurmagomedov, and after his defeat, McGregor started not to be heard anymore, even news about him rarely appeared.
But for now McGregor is back with a better version, I'm sure he can describe the world of UFC wrestling with his name.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on January 09, 2023, 04:47:36 AM

Gastelum haven't fight for around one and half a year, he's also quite slow although he have a power. I don't think Gastelum can easily punch Imavov and Imavov have better ground fight too, but I don't expect the fight will end via submission since Gastelum will play distance, maybe Imavov will win via decision.

The outcome of the fight could be near that scenario, and because Nassourdine Imavov for me doesn't really have a powerful strike, and even though Gastelum doesn't have any fight recently he got a sturdy chin that could withstand even Jared Cannonier's striking I could say that he can really withstand Nassourdine Imavov so yeah this is a win for Nassourdine Imavov but a decision win against Kelvin Gastelum,

Quote from: Apocollapse on January 09, 2023, 04:47:36 AM

No one don't want to see McGregor coming back to UFC, actually he's bigger than UFC name and he's more humble after he lose against Khabib lol.

Probably Conor McGregor has established his reputation very well even though he is a bastard that needs beating and he surely deserves the loss from Khabib Nurmagomedov, but his skill is surely great and people really love his angst inside and outside the ring, even though there are many people that doesn't like McGregor there are fans that still wants to see him inside the octagon,

Quote from: TopTort777 on January 09, 2023, 04:56:27 AM

Recently I've heard that Charles Oliveira once against is calling for Conor McGregor. Oliveira told, that he is ready to Conor in his hometown, Dublin. Charles said that this fight is going to have huge attendance and lots of PPV sales. But, he is already to fight Conor in Brazil. Even though Conor is bad in grappling, Oliveira gets knocked down in every fight or at least eats a lot of punches. I think their fight is going to be close and Conor has all chances of knocking out Oliveira.

I think he just wants the revenge that he deserves or maybe even the money involve in McGregors head because we all know what Conor McGregor is worth, he is like Floyd Mayweather in MMA literal walking cash so I think that Charles Oliveira wants to fight big cash fighters until Islam Makhachev retired, I don't really know what Charles Oliveira's going to do next but I really think he is avoiding a Rematch against Islam Makhachev,

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 08, 2023, 07:03:44 AM

Can we move on from that alcoholic misbehavior to professional fighting? Nothing new happened. It is so expected that when you alcohol enters your blood and brain, you might behave inappropriate. Such things (violence due to alcohol) happen all over the world. Everyone knows that it is bad, but keep on doing same all over again.

Lets better focus on Imavov vs Gastelum event. Kelvin Gastelum - I think this guy is about to be released from UFC. Just look at his record 5 losses in lat 6 fights. Not a very successful record since 2016. Compared to Imavov record, Gastelum is much weaker.

Yup, it's no fun whining about something we can't do nothing about... Lol. Let's just move on to the next event and share each other's thoughts on each match and the event overall. Like Gastelum vs Imavov, at first glance I'd think Gastelum is on his way out but really now, he's a vet he lost only vs the top guys at 185. Check out his record in Tapology...

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/41355-kelvin-gastelum

Adesanya, Till, Hermansson, Whittaker and Cannonier are all top guys.

That match up could be closer than what the lines suggest. I'd still put Imavov in my lottery ticket but he'll be at the third row at most.

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Quote from: tokeweed on January 07, 2023, 09:43:06 AM

^ That's if the other organizations are willing to match or pay more than what the UFC is paying their fighters for. I couldn't imagine Bellator or the PFL give somebody like Ngannou a more lucrative contract without breaking the bank which could be a bad decision as nobody really gives af about Bellator compared to the UFC. They're no. 1 for a reason.

But the clause will be good for MMA for sure and the fighters. It could even make those guys from Bellator like AJ McKee have an easier time transitioning to the UFC without a lot of contract disputes.

For sure, they are the no. 1 organization and have deeper pockets right now. Yes, the removal of noncompete (which will most likely affect the UFC's championship clause too) will be beneficial to fighters as it's going to remove some of that power from the management. Who knows five years from now, one competing organization will be bought out by some dude from an oil-rich country and attract prized fighters from UFC.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 08, 2023, 04:49:01 PM

I am interested in Conor McGregor.

Recently I've heard that Charles Oliveira once against is calling for Conor McGregor. Oliveira told, that he is ready to Conor in his hometown, Dublin. Charles said that this fight is going to have huge attendance and lots of PPV sales. But, he is already to fight Conor in Brazil. Even though Conor is bad in grappling, Oliveira gets knocked down in every fight or at least eats a lot of punches. I think their fight is going to be close and Conor has all chances of knocking out Oliveira.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 08, 2023, 07:03:44 AM

Lets better focus on Imavov vs Gastelum event. Kelvin Gastelum - I think this guy is about to be released from UFC. Just look at his record 5 losses in lat 6 fights. Not a very successful record since 2016. Compared to Imavov record, Gastelum is much weaker.

Gastelum haven't fight for around one and half a year, he's also quite slow although he have a power. I don't think Gastelum can easily punch Imavov and Imavov have better ground fight too, but I don't expect the fight will end via submission since Gastelum will play distance, maybe Imavov will win via decision.

Quote from: OgNasty on January 08, 2023, 04:49:01 PM

I am interested in Conor McGregor. He looks to be slimming down and getting back into fighting shape. This summer I'm sure he'll bring one hell of a show to PPV. A must watch for sure.

No one don't want to see McGregor coming back to UFC, actually he's bigger than UFC name and he's more humble after he lose against Khabib lol.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 08, 2023, 07:03:44 AM

Can we move on from that alcoholic misbehavior to professional fighting? Nothing new happened. It is so expected that when you alcohol enters your blood and brain, you might behave inappropriate. Such things (violence due to alcohol) happen all over the world. Everyone knows that it is bad, but keep on doing same all over again.

Lets better focus on Imavov vs Gastelum event. Kelvin Gastelum - I think this guy is about to be released from UFC. Just look at his record 5 losses in lat 6 fights. Not a very successful record since 2016. Compared to Imavov record, Gastelum is much weaker.

If Dana White is involved then I think it is what everyone expects to make a topic and it also involves the health of the UFC that we all love, but anyway you are correct we should move on and discuss the next event that is this week, but for this event, I am more siding with Nassourdine Imavov even though Kelvin Gastelum has a decent chin it is not enough if you keep on brawling with Nassourdine Imavov but this fight may also go the distance which is pretty much how Gastelum fight used to be because of his sturdy chin,

Quote from: yazher on January 08, 2023, 10:38:29 AM

With the tight competition in this industry, they are going down if their sponsorships will stop supporting them but if they will gonna turn blind about what happened, then the UFC will continue and this thing will be buried. But right now as you said, it's all around the internet and this will gonna be a long topic for some time in the upcoming days. I doubt what happened to Kanye West will also happen to him because both guys are different, Dana owns the company while West is just getting some money from his sponsorships.

It is very alarming because there are sponsorship that is cutting ties with the UFC, and maybe shifting to Bellator or PFL or some other MMA sports companies available, but knowing Dana White I get the feeling that he will be swag and chill most of the time, and I think eventually this will die out and be forgotten when another scandal happen,

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 08, 2023, 07:03:44 AM

Can we move on from that alcoholic misbehavior to professional fighting? Nothing new happened. It is so expected that when you alcohol enters your blood and brain, you might behave inappropriate. Such things (violence due to alcohol) happen all over the world. Everyone knows that it is bad, but keep on doing same all over again.

I'll admit I don't really care. Cancel culture has us wanting to condemn him and ruin his life, but he was slapped first and as bad as it is to say, he pretty much responded with the same force. Feminists would be proud... At this point though, he's been embarrassed, his wife has accepted partial blame, and they both just want to move on.

I am interested in Conor McGregor. He looks to be slimming down and getting back into fighting shape. This summer I'm sure he'll bring one hell of a show to PPV. A must watch for sure.

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Quote from: Erumo on January 07, 2023, 03:43:08 PM

That Dana White and that slap scandal is everywhere. That is great example how one second can ruin reputation built for years. Imho, what Dana White has done is unacceptable. Specially in a lawful society like it is in US. I suggest everyone to follow the numbers of UFC subscriptions and event attendance, as this year, they are going to go down.

With the tight competition in this industry, they are going down if their sponsorships will stop supporting them but if they will gonna turn blind about what happened, then the UFC will continue and this thing will be buried. But right now as you said, it's all around the internet and this will gonna be a long topic for some time in the upcoming days. I doubt what happened to Kanye West will also happen to him because both guys are different, Dana owns the company while West is just getting some money from his sponsorships.

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Can we move on from that alcoholic misbehavior to professional fighting? Nothing new happened. It is so expected that when you alcohol enters your blood and brain, you might behave inappropriate. Such things (violence due to alcohol) happen all over the world. Everyone knows that it is bad, but keep on doing same all over again.

Lets better focus on Imavov vs Gastelum event. Kelvin Gastelum - I think this guy is about to be released from UFC. Just look at his record 5 losses in lat 6 fights. Not a very successful record since 2016. Compared to Imavov record, Gastelum is much weaker.

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Quote from: notblox1 on January 06, 2023, 12:37:01 PM

Let's be honest and say that his wife gave the first slap attack and after that he replied with his slaps, but something stinks in this whole story, and we don't know what Dana told her before slap.
Much more people are now aware of his Power Slap competition, after someone conveniently recorded that video in night club.

It is their personal problem on what happened in that altercation but if he does that in public what is happening in their private lives, surely his wife hit him 1st, and if you are mad Dana White probably doesn't think straight that night and just like what I am always saying that when emotions are high intelligence is low and Dana White isn't really thinking straight but it is clearly domestic violence against women, he is now on the list of male personality that has shown aggression towards his wife,

Quote from: Erumo on January 07, 2023, 03:43:08 PM

That Dana White and that slap scandal is everywhere. That is great example how one second can ruin reputation built for years. Imho, what Dana White has done is unacceptable. Specially in a lawful society like it is in US. I suggest everyone to follow the numbers of UFC subscriptions and event attendance, as this year, they are going to go down.

Well, we can not access what really happened back then the whole story, and what started it I think both Dana White and his wife would likely want this to keep private, the reputation of Dana White is on the line here, and his whole career and even the UFC might be at stake aswell, for me this is better kept private however this is surely domestic violence for sure but it is on Dana White's white to file a case against him to take this a formal case against White,

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Quote from: erep on January 07, 2023, 04:05:57 PM

Quote from: Erumo on January 07, 2023, 03:43:08 PM

That Dana White and that slap scandal is everywhere. That is great example how one second can ruin reputation built for years. Imho, what Dana White has done is unacceptable. Specially in a lawful society like it is in US. I suggest everyone to follow the numbers of UFC subscriptions and event attendance, as this year, they are going to go down.

Even though he has clarified the amateur video but the treatment of his wife can affect his reputation, but it doesn't really damage his reputation because UFC is still very much in the interest of many people for the category of fistfighting, I hope that this is the last case in his household and he must apologize to wife and child to improve their household relationship, he also has to think about the bad impact that will affect his company before he loses everything he has now.

It actually does damage UFC reputation greatly. Dana White is a popular person. Each his move is examined under the microscope. Wasnt Dana the owner of Howler Head bourbon? I bet the sales are close to bottom right now. Alcohol slap - best alcohol promotion ever. Public apology is nothing. It wont rebuilt his reputation. Mark my words, UFC subscription and ticket sales are going to be low next few months.

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Quote from: Erumo on January 07, 2023, 03:43:08 PM

That Dana White and that slap scandal is everywhere. That is great example how one second can ruin reputation built for years. Imho, what Dana White has done is unacceptable. Specially in a lawful society like it is in US. I suggest everyone to follow the numbers of UFC subscriptions and event attendance, as this year, they are going to go down.

Even though he has clarified the amateur video but the treatment of his wife can affect his reputation, but it doesn't really damage his reputation because UFC is still very much in the interest of many people for the category of fistfighting, I hope that this is the last case in his household and he must apologize to wife and child to improve their household relationship, he also has to think about the bad impact that will affect his company before he loses everything he has now.

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That Dana White and that slap scandal is everywhere. That is great example how one second can ruin reputation built for years. Imho, what Dana White has done is unacceptable. Specially in a lawful society like it is in US. I suggest everyone to follow the numbers of UFC subscriptions and event attendance, as this year, they are going to go down.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on January 07, 2023, 03:11:36 PM

Speaking about Bellator - do you know that promotion is probably on sale ? Check out Ariel Helwanis recent article about that. That might be rumors, but we all know that "there is no smoke without fire".

I saw Khabib with Scott Coker so there is chance he could take over or make partnership with his Eagle MMA.

Quote from: tokeweed on January 06, 2023, 03:13:09 PM

The whole slap incident with his wife is both funny and ironic because of his upcoming Power Slap promotion. Lolol. Cheesy

He prolly told his wife to slap him first so he could slap him next and show everybody how it's done. Maybe they should make a power slap demo with Dana White. Cheesy

Oh man... The memes are gonna be hilarious.

And they are doing promotion for equal gender rights.
Both of them quickly said this didn't happened before, but it's hard to me to believe that someone records this incident with camera.
This is same chances like winning lottery ticket, and Dana White was never example of good boy in his past.
Just look up what his mother said about him before, there are other cases on domestic abused done by him, and only thing missing in this was police showing up or arresting Dana Grin

Listen to his own mother: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46eMp_rWgjc

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Speaking about Bellator - do you know that promotion is probably on sale ? Check out Ariel Helwanis recent article about that. That might be rumors, but we all know that "there is no smoke without fire".

I think that PFL or Bellator are capable to pay Ngannou his "high standards", but Ngannou wont be that stupid to change UFC for other promotion. It will be boring for him. I doubt that there are any promotion that has enough heavyweight that has level class close to Ngannou. What he will do there? Fight his 2-5 fight contract get millions, but beat punching bags in first rounds? But then what? Retire? Ngannou career in UFC would last longer.

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