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April 18, 2022, 06:37:39 AM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.

I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.

It's really hard to tell. I would say that on the level Luque is, regarding grappling, his TD defense should be at least decent. Maybe just a combo of the two that didn't work for Luque, OR, he was so sure of himself if it comes to a grappling exchange, that he let those TDs happen, thinking he would take advantage of being on his back. It's not the usual gameplay, as it's a much riskier situation that the top position, but I can see someone like Ortega using this tactic as he is really confident off his back.

It is funny how he was at the UFC desk just a month ago giving advice on how the matches were going for these UFC bouts.
I've seen him fight before but it seemed he was not wanting to fight up until this match with Luque came along.
He looked to be quite comfortable just giving his technical analyst of the fights and not actually doing the fighting.
But glad he won as I had him on most if not all of my bets for the UFC this past weekend.

I don't blame fighters for picking their fights if they can.
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April 17, 2022, 11:14:46 PM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.
It is funny how he was at the UFC desk just a month ago giving advice on how the matches were going for these UFC bouts.
I've seen him fight before but it seemed he was not wanting to fight up until this match with Luque came along.
He looked to be quite comfortable just giving his technical analyst of the fights and not actually doing the fighting.
But glad he won as I had him on most if not all of my bets for the UFC this past weekend.
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April 17, 2022, 10:22:13 PM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.

I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.

Kianzad - Lazzez - Sabatini at 2.16
Add:  Luque  - Nunes -  Clark at 7.63
Add:  Alateng -  Bueno Silva - Omargahdziev at 24.32
Add:  Buday -  Garcia at 65.69 -
Add:  Fialho - Leavitt at 354.45

Not that it mattered, Nunes lost too.  The point deduction cost her.  But at least I broke even by winning the top ticket...  On to the next event.

As soon as I see his match of Luque with Thompson, I admit I sure am excited on this match and thinking Luque will surely drag Muhammad into submission but in my opinion and my observation on the fight, Belal Muhammad is really good in evading and letting Luque follow him then he would land a kick or punches, which is I think Belal Muhammad have learned something from their previous fight he is not aggressive anymore; he is letting Luque thinks he is pressuring him. I admit Belal Muhammad can be technical with his moves and by that take-down that was really fast, where Belal is charging very quickly in giving a takedown. Vicente Luque is not really ready for it, so I think Luque really doesn't have bad takedown defense it's just that he is not ready for that takedown Belal was so fast in charging at Luque, but I don't really regret the outcome. even though I lost, it is just surprising in my opinion, and I still manage to get my lost with the other fights.

I was Impressed with Fialho he surely grab the opportunity in hitting Baeza multiple times on, and because of the strength of his strikes he makes Miguel Baesa nose bleeds, that makes Baeza irritable to Breath.
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April 17, 2022, 05:05:15 PM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.

I can't figure out if Luque has bad TD defense or if Muhammad has excellent timing on his TD's...  I think it's more like the former imho and it cost him...  A lot.  It sucks cos I placed him up at the second tier of my lottery ticket.

Kianzad - Lazzez - Sabatini at 2.16
Add:  Luque  - Nunes -  Clark at 7.63
Add:  Alateng -  Bueno Silva - Omargahdziev at 24.32
Add:  Buday -  Garcia at 65.69 -
Add:  Fialho - Leavitt at 354.45

Not that it mattered, Nunes lost too.  The point deduction cost her.  But at least I broke even by winning the top ticket...  On to the next event.
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April 17, 2022, 10:12:29 AM
Here is the result of the UFC Fight Night: Luque VS Muhammad  

Vicente Luque VS Belal Muhammad - LOST


I really think that Luque is more aggressive and always pressuring Muhammad, now Belal Muhammad is doing differently from what he is doing in this match what he is not doing in their 1st match, Muhammad did it differently, evading then when Luque catch up he will throw kicks or punches, pretty much Belal Muhammad didn't try to take advantage over on the ground because he sure knows very well what Vicente Luque can do, so he Belal Muhammad is keeping his pace safely and giving strikes when they are on the ground and Muhammad is controlling the fight, I really didn't expect that to happen I really though that Luque has got this, but then again it is a total loss, but still rewatching the fight if he judges count it properly, and checking out if I missed something.


Miguel Baeza VS Andre Fialho - WIN

Kudos to Miguel Baeza actually he can also win this if Fialho didn't bust Baeza's nose but like I have said Andre Fialho definitely has that power from his striking, and Baeza's rapid punch from Fialho, was really not enough Fialho has the durability to withstand those but the fight has already finished when Miguel Baeza's nose was bleeding we can see that Baeza can not breathe anymore, and always keeps a check on his nose, so that is the opportunity for Andre Fialho to give that winning punches, to Baeza, what an incredible fight, and kudos to both fighters.

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April 17, 2022, 08:04:28 AM
I ended up cashing out, because I was worried about how the judges might score that Silva fight. I thought she won personally, and was the only one to threaten on the feet, as well as on the mat. However, you never really know with the judges do you. Wu did better than expected, but her great movement didn't really amount to anything except pretty much shadow boxing. If she can get in, and out she might actually do pretty well in the division. However, at the moment she's going to lose a lot just because most of her volume isn't really connecting the majority of the time.

I missed the main event, fell asleep. I felt like that card was moving quiet slowly towards the end. Not the best night of fights, and I'm starting to think that an illegal strike should always be a point deducted even if it was accidental. Plus, I don't think we should be stopping the fight, and basically rewarding the fighter who did the illegal strike. Not a fan of scoring fights up to that point, I know it prevents fighters milking it, but I don't know. Not a fan.
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April 17, 2022, 03:36:16 AM
UFC Fight Night: Lemos vs. Andrade



Date: April 24, 2022
Main Card: SUN, APR 24 / 4:00 AM EEST
Prelims: SUN, APR 24 / 1:00 AM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Women's Strawweight: Amanda Lemos vs. Jéssica Andrade            
Lightweight: Clay Guida vs. Claudio Puelles            
Heavyweight: Tanner Boser vs. Alexander Romanov            
Featherweight: Lando Vannata vs. Charles Jourdain            
Women's Flyweight: Maycee Barber vs. Montana De La Rosa            
Lightweight: Steve Garcia vs. Damir Hadžović

Prelims            
Flyweight: Manel Kape vs. Su Mudaerji            
Welterweight: Louis Cosce vs. Preston Parsons            
Welterweight: Dwight Grant vs. Sergey Khandozhko            
Light Heavyweight: Tyson Pedro vs. Ike Villanueva            
Bantamweight: Qileng Aori vs. Cameron Else            
Light Heavyweight: Marcin Prachnio vs. Philipe Lins            
Welterweight: Dean Barry vs. Mike Jackson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Lemos_vs._Andrade

This is going to be sort of a filler for next weekend from UFC, as there is going to be a boxing match between two Brits, Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte.
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April 17, 2022, 03:34:40 AM
This was a long-winded one. A ton of decisions. Well, I'd say Muhamad was not impressed by Luqes BJJ accolades as there were takedowns A plenty. So Belal is now in an interesting situation. However, I would like to see a rematch with Edwards before the Colby callout materializes. I am not sure if back-to-back rematches are good for his career though. I mean, this division is a nightmare for matchmaking, but no sleeping on Muhamad.
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April 17, 2022, 01:38:35 AM
I missed the event completely, was planning to watch the main event even though not planning to watch the entire card because none of the fighters were known to me. Belal Muhammad dominated the rematch and i was expecting this to an extend.

Here is the results


source: Wiki
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April 16, 2022, 07:27:09 PM
^  Yeah Chiesa has a tendency to expose his neck but I don't think there was anything he could do there.  Luque is a legit black belt in BJJ and it def showed.  So Muhammad should be a little extra careful if he thinks he can do Luque like he did Thompson.

Anyway here are the weigh in results.  Drakkar Klose initially didn't make weight and was given an hour.  He did eventually but he looked terribad.  He was dehydrated and shaking on the scale.  Kinda reminded me of Aspen Ladd.  I won't be including him in my parlays.

Vicente Luque (171) vs Belal Muhammad (170.5)
Caio Borralho (186) vs Gadzhi Omargadzhiev (186)
Miguel Baeza (171) vs Andre Fialho (171)
Mayra Bueno Silva (136) vs Wu Yanan (136)
TJ Laramie (145.5) vs Pat Sabatini (146)
Mounir Lazzez (171) vs Ange Loosa (171)
Devin Clark (223) vs William Knight (251)
Pannie Kianzad (136) vs Lina Lansberg (135.5)
Brandon Jenkins (155.5) vs Drakkar Klose (156)
Rafa Garcia (155) vs Jesse Ronson (155.5)
Chris Barnett (263.5) vs Martin Buday (264.5)
Jordan Leavitt (155.5) vs Trey Ogden (156)
Sam Hughes (115.5) vs Istela Nunes (114)
Heili Alateng (135.5) vs Kevin Croom (136)

Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXpQHkAM8Hg

Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X023OQaslqo

Edit:  Here's my event's 'lottery tickets'.  

Kianzad - Lazzez - Sabatini at 2.16
Add:  Luque  - Nunes -  Clark at 7.63
Add:  Alateng -  Bueno Silva - Omargahdziev at 24.32
Add:  Buday -  Garcia at 65.69
Add:  Fialho - Leavitt at 354.45

^ Well too bad for Michael Chiesa he really doesn't know what he got in too, that reversal was outstanding and I am sure impressed about what happened in the fight at first I really thought that Chiesa was winning on the ground but a quick reversal sure was needed to turn the tables, and I think that Vicente Luque is good on standing as well, he is pressuring Chiesa so much that result for Chiesa to get the fight on the ground, but Vicente Luque is one crafty fighter that reverses their situation, definitely Belal Muhammad will have a hard time with Luque, as he's having a blast of a fight with Thompson already.

Great the prelim matches started and I haven't posted my picks yet, I didn't realize that I fell asleep but here is what I think may happen in the Main event

Vicente Luque VS Belal Muhammad

At first, I am positive about Belal Muhammad but he was struggling with Stephen Thompson on the ground, but Vicente Luque's ground reversal win over Michael Chiesa was a superb fight to see, and that D'Arce choke was really a need for Muhammad to take care with because he did it to Tyron Woodley and now with Thompson, and I think it is a very wrong move to take the fight on the ground with Luque, and even his standing is quite notable aswell because it's pressuring Chiesa so much that decided to take the fight on the ground, which is a wrong move for Chiesa, so in my opinion, this could be a win for Vicente Luque, right now stake odds are 1.55 for Luque and 2.48 for Muhammad.

Miguel Baeza VS Andre Fialho

Miguel Baeza could finish this fight with standing while Andre Fialho is a combination puncher and quite a boxer in my opinion but judging by the strength I think Fialho has more strength with his punching given his great with boxing, but I am also questioning Miguel Baeza's chin and durability, right now stake odds are 1.54 for Baeza while 2.49 for Fialho, making Baeza the favorite to win, but I am going against the favorite because I think Andre Fialho does have some take down aswell, so a well rounded fighter over Baeza.



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April 16, 2022, 02:13:51 PM
Anyway here are the weigh in results.  Drakkar Klose initially didn't make weight and was given an hour.  He did eventually but he looked terribad.  He was dehydrated and shaking on the scale.  Kinda reminded me of Aspen Ladd.  I won't be including him in my parlays.

I'll have to watch it myself, but I've already got him included on my accumulator, which has had a few legs won from the football. So, I might have to cash out earlier than expected. I don't usually take weigh ins into consideration, but shaking doesn't sound good.

Also, how often do they usually give the fighter time to drop weight? Is it only if they're half pound off or something?

These are my favourites for tonight:

Vicente Luque
Andre Fialho 
Mayra Bueno Silva
Pat Sabatini (146)
Devin Clark
Drakkar Klose (156)
Chris Barnett

Obviously, Klose missing weight, and apparently shaking doesn't fill me with confidence, but he's still on there at the moment. I'll review the tape soon. Devin Clark I think could potentially get a decision win if Knight tires out, since I believe this is his first fight at heavyweight?
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April 16, 2022, 01:36:51 PM
^  Yeah Chiesa has a tendency to expose his neck but I don't think there was anything he could do there.  Luque is a legit black belt in BJJ and it def showed.  So Muhammad should be a little extra careful if he thinks he can do Luque like he did Thompson.


I forgot what happened in the Muhammad / Thompson fight, but Thompson is actually a brown belt under Carlos Machado, while Muhamad is purple, so I'm kinda curious what happened there (and yeah, I know belt colors don't matter generally speaking, but still). I wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a stand-up fight, Muhamad is a Rufus protege, so...
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April 16, 2022, 07:35:18 AM
^  Yeah Chiesa has a tendency to expose his neck but I don't think there was anything he could do there.  Luque is a legit black belt in BJJ and it def showed.  So Muhammad should be a little extra careful if he thinks he can do Luque like he did Thompson.

Anyway here are the weigh in results.  Drakkar Klose initially didn't make weight and was given an hour.  He did eventually but he looked terribad.  He was dehydrated and shaking on the scale.  Kinda reminded me of Aspen Ladd.  I won't be including him in my parlays.

Vicente Luque (171) vs Belal Muhammad (170.5)
Caio Borralho (186) vs Gadzhi Omargadzhiev (186)
Miguel Baeza (171) vs Andre Fialho (171)
Mayra Bueno Silva (136) vs Wu Yanan (136)
TJ Laramie (145.5) vs Pat Sabatini (146)
Mounir Lazzez (171) vs Ange Loosa (171)
Devin Clark (223) vs William Knight (251)
Pannie Kianzad (136) vs Lina Lansberg (135.5)
Brandon Jenkins (155.5) vs Drakkar Klose (156)
Rafa Garcia (155) vs Jesse Ronson (155.5)
Chris Barnett (263.5) vs Martin Buday (264.5)
Jordan Leavitt (155.5) vs Trey Ogden (156)
Sam Hughes (115.5) vs Istela Nunes (114)
Heili Alateng (135.5) vs Kevin Croom (136)

Weigh ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXpQHkAM8Hg

Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X023OQaslqo

Edit:  Here's my event's 'lottery tickets'.  

Kianzad - Lazzez - Sabatini at 2.16
Add:  Luque  - Nunes -  Clark at 7.63
Add:  Alateng -  Bueno Silva - Omargahdziev at 24.32
Add:  Buday -  Garcia at 65.69
Add:  Fialho - Leavitt at 354.45
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April 16, 2022, 04:56:24 AM

I posted some good sites where everybody could get info, match replays and stats in the op.  Have fun with that.  I'm not as much of a UFC stats nut as I used to but doing research on that stuff before making a bet is really fun.  And the bets kinda test you if you made the right call based on all the info available to you.  The winning part is kinda hard tho.  Lol.

Heres a couple of vids.  Watching Belal Muhammad maul Thompson like that might have made the line on Luque a little closer.  If that didn't happen Luque could be lined wider at 1.40 or lower imho.

UFC Free Fight:  Muhammad vs Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23IR9LC_wYs

UFC Free Fight:  Luque vs Chiesa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCvsEwr26NQ

I don't think Muhammad could do Luque like he did Thompson tho.

Yes! and because of that I thank you for providing great sites where we can get great information on upcoming fights surely enough you have contributed to the UFC community more than enough and because of that I will give you my thanks,

And with your provided video I can say is I am shocked by Luque's performance more than Belal Muhammad's and clearly because of this I am torn on who's the side I will pick, I was shocked on the counter Luque has pulled on Chiesa and clearly, Michael Chiesa is not your average run of the mill kind of fighter and Vicente Luque just pull a reversal on the ground, and I surely never see that all day, and thanks for the videos, and information I surely have already watched this video, about Luque, but I kind of lost it in my mind, and because of this I have now a clear mind in giving my picks later, and I have seen how Luque have the composure of self-control over certain pressure so thanks again.
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April 16, 2022, 04:28:13 AM
I'm aware of the story behind it all, but I haven't watched that specific documentary, did his team know about the eye? I'm surprised if they would openly admit to that, since you'd like to think there would be certain ramifications to allowing a fighter, with one eye to fight, and therefore endangering him.
Michael Bisping said these things in his own podcast or during the Joe Rogan Podcast about how many fights he fought with one eye and how he was able to bypass the doctors test, he said they were using the old method of measuring the vision with fixed alphabets and he would memorize the patterns and if the doctor checks him up close and he usually gets the help from his team and he said the testing was absurd as hell and hence he passed them all  Cheesy

Yeah, and that tells us how good QC is in UFC XD. And that was fairly recently (to some extent), so if a half-blind guy can pass doctor controls, I am sure a bunch of them can bypass USADA tests XD. Regarding Bisping, that makes even more emphasis on his fight with Rockhold, damn peek Bisping was really good. Could watch that KO every day.
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April 15, 2022, 05:24:27 PM
I'm aware of the story behind it all, but I haven't watched that specific documentary, did his team know about the eye? I'm surprised if they would openly admit to that, since you'd like to think there would be certain ramifications to allowing a fighter, with one eye to fight, and therefore endangering him.
Michael Bisping said these things in his own podcast or during the Joe Rogan Podcast about how many fights he fought with one eye and how he was able to bypass the doctors test, he said they were using the old method of measuring the vision with fixed alphabets and he would memorize the patterns and if the doctor checks him up close and he usually gets the help from his team and he said the testing was absurd as hell and hence he passed them all  Cheesy

I can tell you now, if I lost a eye in the UFC I would never step back in.
With both eyes it is difficult to be in a fight let alone in the UFC and then becoming the champion. He is a tough SOB Cheesy.
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April 15, 2022, 10:03:42 AM
Now that the UFC 273 has passed and has given us a juicy-juicy fight and I really think that the 273 was really an epic event because of what Gilbert Burns and Khamzat Chimaev did, and Khamzat Chimaev don't want the easy route but decided to brawl with Burns, but I think the next event is some kind of OK so here it is,

UFC Fight Night: Luque vs. Muhammad 2

April 16, 2022, UFC Apex facility in Enterprise, Nevada, part of the Las Vegas Metropolitan Area, United States.



Main card

Welterweight    Vicente Luque   vs.   Belal Muhammad   
Middleweight      Caio Borralho    vs.   Gadzhi Omargadzhiev      
Welterweight      Miguel Baeza     vs.    André Fialho
Women's Bantamweight   Mayra Bueno Silva   vs.   Wu Yanan            
Featherweight   Pat Sabatini   vs.   T.J. Laramie
Welterweight      Mounir Lazzez    vs.    Ange Loosa

Preliminary card

Heavyweight     William Knight    vs.    Devin Clark
Women Bantamweight        Lina Länsberg      vs.     Pannie Kianzad
Lightweight       Drakkar Klose    vs.     Brandon Jenkins
Lightweight   Rafa García   vs.   Jesse Ronson            
Heavyweight   Chris Barnett   vs.   Martin Buday
Lightweight        Trey Ogden       vs.    Jordan Leavitt            
Women's Strawweight   Istela Nunes   vs.   Sam Hughes            
Bantamweight   Heili Alateng   vs.   Kevin Croom



Events fights will surely change and are not yet final the information can be found here Tapology

I have updated the list on my post, thanks to tokeweed for providing updated information last time was on the wiki and now Tapology is a great site that is updated and you can surely see upcoming fights and surely tons of information about the fighters and upcoming fights, I have quoted it and post it here again so everybody could see,




I posted some good sites where everybody could get info, match replays and stats in the op.  Have fun with that.  I'm not as much of a UFC stats nut as I used to but doing research on that stuff before making a bet is really fun.  And the bets kinda test you if you made the right call based on all the info available to you.  The winning part is kinda hard tho.  Lol.

Heres a couple of vids.  Watching Belal Muhammad maul Thompson like that might have made the line on Luque a little closer.  If that didn't happen Luque could be lined wider at 1.40 or lower imho.

UFC Free Fight:  Muhammad vs Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23IR9LC_wYs

UFC Free Fight:  Luque vs Chiesa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCvsEwr26NQ

I don't think Muhammad could do Luque like he did Thompson tho.
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April 15, 2022, 05:39:22 AM
I'm just glad he managed to get the belt, since if he didn't it would have all seemed like for nothing. I'm still not sure I could justify losing a eye for belt, but there we are. I'm also a fan of his commentary, I sometimes look at discussions around the fighting on the night, and it seems he gets a lot of criticism, along with Joe Rogan. I'm not sure exactly why that is, I've always found him entertaining, and also quite insightful at times.

Also, his podcast is pretty good, very down to earth in typical Bisping fashion.  

I just noticed the cancelled fights on this card, this would have been an absolute banger of a card if they wasn't cancelled. Like I said before I actually think its a decent fight night how it is now, but Uriah Hall had a fight cancelled, and I feel that fight would have been that little extra that was needed to really push this card to the top.

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April 15, 2022, 04:49:28 AM
I think we will never understand and realize what Bisping came through. It is easy to cover an eye with a palm for few seconds or minutes. And it is completely different to fight like this, to get that kind of level of reaction to cover or dodge everything that comes from right side. He has right stance, so everything that comes to him is a bit further. Much respect to this guy.
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April 15, 2022, 01:40:34 AM
I'm aware of the story behind it all, but I haven't watched that specific documentary, did his team know about the eye? I'm surprised if they would openly admit to that, since you'd like to think there would be certain ramifications to allowing a fighter, with one eye to fight, and therefore endangering him.

I can tell you now, if I lost a eye in the UFC I would never step back in. While it might be irrational to fear losing the other the same way, since the statistics are behind you, I wouldn't risk it. The thing is it was quite clear now looking back that Bisping was compromised on the one side, as he definitely wasn't as good as defending.
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