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March 17, 2022, 10:01:37 AM
I heard that in some other MMA organizations they are openly asking fighters to make up stuff, pretend and act all the time to attract more attention for upcoming fight.
There was even one pre fight video of two fighters acting in some roles of detective and criminal, so I believe something like this is happening in UFC but in more subtle level.
Conor McGregor is special showcase for how easy man could change in negative way with lot of money, but maybe he was always a prick even when he was poor like church mouse Smiley

If McGregor is just making up stuff like it was all an act before the upcoming fights, they would have shaken hands and embraced each other when he was lost to Khabiib but as we witnessed that night, after the fight there are some troubles that we haven't expected because at the end of the fight Khabib also throws his mouthpiece at Mcgregor's corner. It means they were really getting into each other nerves for real, not just some mere acting. We can't deny that there are some actions in the UFC just before the fight though to further raise their profits but most of the time they were really cursing and taunting each other for real.
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March 17, 2022, 07:19:56 AM

Promotion strategy becoming more, and more WWE esque. I very much doubt this is real, since Paddy to me seems an alright guy behind the cameras. He only becomes the showman in front of the camera, this has been pretty well documented too. Whereas at least with Conor you didn't know if it was real, since it does seem he's a bit of an idiot off camera too.

I don't like all of this crap to hype up the fights, I'm already hyped enough to see Paddy. Although, I do think he is going to get caught a lot just like in his first fight. He isn't Conor that's for sure.



Well before their Scaffles on Paddy Pimblett got a tweet on Twitter that was kind of a racist post so many are bashing him because of it, and Ilia Topuria is not happy about it, because back in 2008 Georgia and Russia has a war, and Russia is bombing Georgia so Topuria is very sensitive when it comes to this issue, when related to his country and his family, I really don't know if this is for the hype anymore or we could say it is a grudge match when they meet on the octagon,



And their tweet did progress in a manner that Paddy is challenging Ilia to do what he had said, then the day of the Scuffles happened, Ilia Topuria is raging with Anger, and right now Paddy Pimblett does have said that he doesn't understand their history and his a fighter, not a historian or a politician but doesn't say his sorry to Georgian people at all, I really think he has some Idea with what happens to Georgia and Russia back then and because of what he has said people are bashing him so much right now and Ilia Topuria does have a grudge on him and wants to settle the score against Paddy Pimblett, I know that Ilia Topuria doesn't have to do such things but we can not blame him there must be a deeper scar history have to him to react that way to Paddy Pimblett.

I think of Topuria is a humble guy that really just wants to showcase is skills and talent, nothing more nothing less,

Their conflict appear after Paddy Pimblett made a stupid joke on twitter. He said that "Lad how stupid are these Georgians man, no wonder the Russians terrorise their lives". Topuria enraged, because he connects it with Russia - Georgia conflict.


Well, now I know what did happen to Paddy Pimblett and Ilia Topuria Scuffles, and right now Pimblett has many bashers mostly Georgians and Ilia Topuria is not really happy about it, well if Ilia Topuria wants a fight to settle a score against Paddy Pimblett he needs to get to Lightweight and fight with that weight,
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March 17, 2022, 06:08:55 AM
I think of Topuria is a humble guy that really just wants to showcase is skills and talent, nothing more nothing less,

Their conflict appear after Paddy Pimblett made a stupid joke on twitter. He said that "Lad how stupid are these Georgians man, no wonder the Russians terrorise their lives". Topuria enraged, because he connects it with Russia - Georgia conflict.

Petr Yans - his trainer did not manage to get visa and not coming to US to be in his corner in his second fight against Sterling on UFC 273. It is unknows who is going to be in his corner, as he will fly to US next week without his team. He needs a Russian speaking fighter (as Petr barely speaks English) or trainer. Someone experienced, someone who was on top, someone with beard, someone from Dagestan Cheesy
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March 17, 2022, 02:50:09 AM
It appears Dana's new pet Paddy the Baddy is doing a similar strategy of hype like Dana's other pet Conor McGregor. Paddy Pimblett and Ilia Topuria almost went into a fight in the hotel where the fighters were staying hehe. The video appeared to be Paddy throwing a box with food some inside, however, the article mentioned that it was Topuria who punched Paddy.
Promotion strategy becoming more, and more WWE esque. I very much doubt this is real, since Paddy to me seems an alright guy behind the cameras. He only becomes the showman in front of the camera, this has been pretty well documented too. Whereas at least with Conor you didn't know if it was real, since it does seem he's a bit of an idiot off camera too.

I don't like all of this crap to hype up the fights, I'm already hyped enough to see Paddy. Although, I do think he is going to get caught a lot just like in his first fight. He isn't Conor that's for sure.

The promotion strategy has actually been around for some time. The talk, the show, it's actually an integral part of MMA whether we like it or not. Think of Helio Gracie fighting Masahiko Kimura and coming into the ring with a casket. The showboating around UFC1 with the art of talking gradually improving, to one of the grates to do it, Chael Sonnen. After that, the quality declined, with Conor being a lesser version of a talker than Sonnen and so on. Pimblet is, ah, a bad fighter IMO that has some of the typical English bravado but that's it.
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March 16, 2022, 05:50:43 PM
Promotion strategy becoming more, and more WWE esque. I very much doubt this is real, since Paddy to me seems an alright guy behind the cameras. He only becomes the showman in front of the camera, this has been pretty well documented too. Whereas at least with Conor you didn't know if it was real, since it does seem he's a bit of an idiot off camera too.
I heard that in some other MMA organizations they are openly asking fighters to make up stuff, pretend and act all the time to attract more attention for upcoming fight.
There was even one pre fight video of two fighters acting in some roles of detective and criminal, so I believe something like this is happening in UFC but in more subtle level.
Conor McGregor is special showcase for how easy man could change in negative way with lot of money, but maybe he was always a prick even when he was poor like church mouse Smiley
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March 16, 2022, 01:12:07 PM
Very excited for the Shore fight. Up against a very good opponent too, will put that unbeaten record to the test, but I do have faith. Think he could end up putting on a show.

I see Chimaev is actually a good fighter and with his good wrestling skills he might be able to become the next khabib in the future, but so far he seems to be having a hard time getting a match fighter him, and of course fighting Burns will be a test of his suitability as one of the best fighters right now, but I personally would probably bet more on burns in that fight because in this case Burns technique and experience would certainly be a lethal weapon against Chimaev.
Burns his largely being underestimated, and up to this point I don't think Chimaev has actually faced anyone that I would give him props for, at least  for the amount of hype that's behind him. He's a great fighter, and very technical don't get me wrong, but it's way too soon to be talking about titles. Burns, would be a massive step up for me, the guy can absolutely bang, and also has some decent grappling skills. I actually fancied Burns against Usman a while ago, we know how that went, but he's definitely the most dangerous opponent Chimaev would've faced up to this point in his career.
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March 16, 2022, 07:34:04 AM
I am excited, that the fight between Gilbert Burns and Khamzat Chimaev is in development. Both already started trash talking in media. It will first serious challenge for Chimaev.
I see Chimaev is actually a good fighter and with his good wrestling skills he might be able to become the next khabib in the future, but so far he seems to be having a hard time getting a match fighter him, and of course fighting Burns will be a test of his suitability as one of the best fighters right now, but I personally would probably bet more on burns in that fight because in this case Burns technique and experience would certainly be a lethal weapon against Chimaev.
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March 16, 2022, 07:12:29 AM
It appears Dana's new pet Paddy the Baddy is doing a similar strategy of hype like Dana's other pet Conor McGregor. Paddy Pimblett and Ilia Topuria almost went into a fight in the hotel where the fighters were staying hehe. The video appeared to be Paddy throwing a box with food some inside, however, the article mentioned that it was Topuria who punched Paddy.
Promotion strategy becoming more, and more WWE esque. I very much doubt this is real, since Paddy to me seems an alright guy behind the cameras. He only becomes the showman in front of the camera, this has been pretty well documented too. Whereas at least with Conor you didn't know if it was real, since it does seem he's a bit of an idiot off camera too.

I don't like all of this crap to hype up the fights, I'm already hyped enough to see Paddy. Although, I do think he is going to get caught a lot just like in his first fight. He isn't Conor that's for sure.
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March 16, 2022, 07:00:29 AM

The pick is def Topuria but know that he went into this match up on short notice and in a weight class above his usual one.  And notice the height and reach advantage of Jai Herbert.  It's an 8 inch reach advantage for Herbert.  But I'm not too worried as Topuria will prolly take it to the ground and negate the reach advantage.  Herbert's TD defense in the UFC is low.  I think around 30%.


There are so many advantages For Jai Herbert and I think this is the best opportunity for Tupuria to test his skill even further, this is what I see but Ilia Topuria cannot underestimate Herbert that much, this is a short notice match for Topuria and just like you have said weight class above his, so I think Topuria should consider getting his game ready here, but Ilia Topuria is a well-rounded guy, I would like to see him win here because if he can not then he is not ready for a shot for a title match.

It is pretty brave to get into conflict (it is real and not staged by UFC) with a person with surname Topuria that has roots in Georgia. There was a guy Andro Topuria, from Georgia, who is one of Georgian crime lords, aka mafia. People from that region are tough, they can severely push for trash talk.

I am excited, that the fight between Gilbert Burns and Khamzat Chimaev is in development. Both already started trash talking in media. It will first serious challenge for Chimaev.

Ilia Topuria is born in Germany and his family moves to Georgia and then he moves to Spain, if that Andro Topuria guy is related to Ilia Topuria then his family is a crime lord but I really think this is just coincidence, well I think of Topuria is a humble guy that really just wants to showcase is skills and talent, nothing more nothing less,

And speaking of Burns and Chimaev, they are starting alright and to hype their fight even more, and you are right that this could be a challenge for Khamzat Chimaev he would likely to test his strength if he could wrestle and grapple burns to the ground or not, but I am hype to watch the Russian fighter Khamzat Chimaev than seeing the main event for the UFC 273 this could be one epic fight for the UFC 273, and I am so excited just thinking of it.
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March 16, 2022, 05:10:04 AM
It is pretty brave to get into conflict (it is real and not staged by UFC) with a person with surname Topuria that has roots in Georgia. There was a guy Andro Topuria, from Georgia, who is one of Georgian crime lords, aka mafia. People from that region are tough, they can severely push for trash talk.

I am excited, that the fight between Gilbert Burns and Khamzat Chimaev is in development. Both already started trash talking in media. It will first serious challenge for Chimaev.
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March 15, 2022, 09:58:56 PM
It appears Dana's new pet Paddy the Baddy is doing a similar strategy of hype like Dana's other pet Conor McGregor. Paddy Pimblett and Ilia Topuria almost went into a fight in the hotel where the fighters were staying hehe. The video appeared to be Paddy throwing a box with food some inside, however, the article mentioned that it was Topuria who punched Paddy.

This feud began when Paddy tweeted that people from Georgia are stupid. I reckon this implies Paddy wants to fight Topuria after Rodrigo Vargas hehehe. The tweets and video are in the article.



UFC fighters Paddy Pimblett and Ilia Topuria may not be fighting each other this weekend at UFC London, but that didn’t stop them at the fighter hotel.

Source https://www.mmanews.com/2022/03/paddy-pimblett-ilia-topuria-altercation/
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March 15, 2022, 05:55:26 PM
There was a lot of hype going in to the fight with Thiago, with a lot of fans predicting a finish or at the very least a dominant performance. That's not what we got, and quite frankly I think his hype has taken a hit as a result. Thiago isn't exactly the Thiago that was fighting a few years ago, while still dangerous, he lacks movement, but Magomed was very gun shy for someone being the overwhelming favour going in to the fight, and he didn't even really try or do that much wrestling. I feel like if Thiago just did a little more he would have won the fight.
Before this fight I said there are two scenarios fight could go and I know most people expected quick finish but not me, because Thiago Santos did have some long boring fights before.
It takes two to tango and I remember Santos losing from both Glover Teixeira and Rakic in long fights without much action, some would say boring fights.
Let's face it, Thiago is getting older with 38 years and he can't always perform like people expect from him.
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March 15, 2022, 01:52:14 PM
Magomed Ankalaev is seriously going up in rankings after winning against Thiago Santos who lost four from his last five fights.
Light Heavyweight is getting more interesting and I think Ankalaev that is currently ranked in six position must fight with one of the top five fighters next.
If Thiago Santos continues to lose he could soon be removed from UFC roster.
 


The things are going in a way he will be released soon, or if he looses next fight. Since his fight against Jon Jones (I think that was the peak moment of Santos), his career showed downtrend. I see two scenarios - either he will be released after next loss (and will be picked up by Khabibs EFC Cheesy), or he will be like Andrei Arlovski - someone average, that is always ready to fight, and people would come to see him fighting. He will be left as a fighter to fill the space in card, and released as soon as new prospects appear.

Yeah this weekend's main event was a bit of a let down. Santos has constantly been disappointing since Jon Jones which some have argued he won. GLOVER TEIXEIRA may be champion but with his age and on top of the way he won the belt, could easily be taken off him.
I think at the moment Jan the polish power or the Czech jiri will be challenging for the belt soon enough.ankalaev I feel falls into the category of the likes of Anthony Smith, Johnny Walker and even Ryan span. Excited at times but nothing for yhe
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March 15, 2022, 09:48:11 AM




Yup.  I have Topuria high in my parlays and there's a couple others..  I hope the sanction thingy won't spoil this whole event as there are 5 Russians in it.

For now, I am very solid with Ilia Topuria moment the other fights that I am currently looking at I am still getting some research and looking even further for any bet to happen, for now I can be sure in Ilia Topuria at the moment, his wellcounded with both stand-up and the ground, and fighting his opponent with smart decision inside the octagon, his recent match was against Ryan Hall, which he didn't showcase anything in my opinion, he doesn't show any of his cards, they will not spoil the any of the event I guess Dana White doesn't listen to anyone at all.



The pick is def Topuria but know that he went into this match up on short notice and in a weight class above his usual one.  And notice the height and reach advantage of Jai Herbert.  It's an 8 inch reach advantage for Herbert.  But I'm not too worried as Topuria will prolly take it to the ground and negate the reach advantage.  Herbert's TD defense in the UFC is low.  I think around 30%.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/636328-ufc-fight-night-jai-the-black-country-banger-herbert-vs-ilia-el-matador-topuria

I'll post my full card parlay in a couple of days once I figure it out.

Some vids...

UFC Free Fight:  Aspinall vs Arlovski
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMFNvSKbeak

UFC Free Fight:  Volkov vs Overeem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIp9OBegqgY
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March 15, 2022, 04:51:22 AM
Magomed Ankalaev is seriously going up in rankings after winning against Thiago Santos who lost four from his last five fights.
Light Heavyweight is getting more interesting and I think Ankalaev that is currently ranked in six position must fight with one of the top five fighters next.
If Thiago Santos continues to lose he could soon be removed from UFC roster.
 


The things are going in a way he will be released soon, or if he looses next fight. Since his fight against Jon Jones (I think that was the peak moment of Santos), his career showed downtrend. I see two scenarios - either he will be released after next loss (and will be picked up by Khabibs EFC Cheesy), or he will be like Andrei Arlovski - someone average, that is always ready to fight, and people would come to see him fighting. He will be left as a fighter to fill the space in card, and released as soon as new prospects appear.
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March 15, 2022, 02:19:56 AM
Now that the UFC Fight Night: Santos VS Ankalev has finally settled, I didn't make a bet or watch the event yet, because I was bored and busy, but another event has emerged and this is

UFC Fight Night Volkov vs. Aspinall

March 19, 2022, The O2 Arena in London, England.

Main Card

Heavyweight   Alexander Volkov   vs.   Tom Aspinall
Featherweight   Arnold Allen   vs.   Dan Hooker
Lightweight   Paddy Pimblett   vs.   Rodrigo Vargas
Heavyweight   Shamil Abdurakhimov   vs.   Sergei Pavlovich
Light Heavyweight   Nikita Krylov   vs.   Paul Craig
Welterweight   Gunnar Nelson   vs.   Takashi Sato

Preliminary Card

Lightweight   Jai Herbert   vs.   Ilia Topuria
Flyweight   Muhammad Mokaev   vs.   Cody Durden
Featherweight   Mike Grundy   vs.   Makwan Amirkhani   
Women's Flyweight   Molly McCann   vs.   Luana Carolina
Bantamweight   Jack Shore   vs.   Timur Valiev
Women's Strawweight   Cory McKenna   vs.   Elise Reed
Bantamweight   Nathaniel Wood   vs.   Vince Morales

All Information was from WIKI


These are all pretty good match ups with most of them close to 50/50 on paper and some of them could even see the dogs winning imho.  Match ups like Jack Shore vs Timur Valiev should be closer imho.  So is Krylov vs Paul Craig...  And I know the roster was made months prior to the date of the even but man it looks like there could be 5 matches either canceled or with those Russian fighters replaced on short notice.  Sucks if so because this is a banger of a card.  Fighter to watch is Topuria and of course Aspinall.  Aspinall could challenge for the HW title in a year or so.

Edit:  Another fighter to watch is Dan Hooker who moved down to 145 for this event.

Also, Gunnar Nelson is back. He's been inactive from 2019 onwards and is coming from two losses in a row. I mean, he could very well take Sato for a grappling ride, however, he's also been training in SBG Ireland, and he may very well think he's a boxer. All of Sato's losses came from submissions, so maybe Nelson could take advantage of that if SBG hasn't completely ruined him. Either way, I am interested in a possible grappling match from both of them.
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March 14, 2022, 08:17:44 PM
Early picks for the next event, of course I'm going to go with the Welshies. So, Jack Shore, and Cory Mckenna are going to absolutely smash it, and Jack Shore being the underdog is very good value in my opinion. He's a solid fighter, as a bit of everything. Outside of that, the clear pick for a almost guarantee win for me would be Ilia Topuria. Although, I'm still upset about what happened to Ryan Hall.
 
Magomed Ankalaev is seriously going up in rankings after winning against Thiago Santos who lost four from his last five fights.
Light Heavyweight is getting more interesting and I think Ankalaev that is currently ranked in six position must fight with one of the top five fighters next.
If Thiago Santos continues to lose he could soon be removed from UFC roster.
 
There was a lot of hype going in to the fight with Thiago, with a lot of fans predicting a finish or at the very least a dominant performance. That's not what we got, and quite frankly I think his hype has taken a hit as a result. Thiago isn't exactly the Thiago that was fighting a few years ago, while still dangerous, he lacks movement, but Magomed was very gun shy for someone being the overwhelming favour going in to the fight, and he didn't even really try or do that much wrestling. I feel like if Thiago just did a little more he would have won the fight.
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March 14, 2022, 05:34:11 PM
Magomed Ankalaev is seriously going up in rankings after winning against Thiago Santos who lost four from his last five fights.
Light Heavyweight is getting more interesting and I think Ankalaev that is currently ranked in six position must fight with one of the top five fighters next.
If Thiago Santos continues to lose he could soon be removed from UFC roster.
 
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March 14, 2022, 04:31:28 PM

The ICO thing is just some bunch of bull shit in my opinion. They are not protecting or doing anything like that. So that always they have some type of agenda behind this. I am really happy to see that UFC did not ban the Russian fighters. I actually think that they cannot under such circumstances where the Russian fighters are the most popular ones right now.

I totally agree with you, they are saying such stuff because I think they want sympathy in not taking Russian Athletes because of the war that is happening right now, or they just want to be relevant in what is happening right now, and I am thankful that UFC is not getting affected with such things, and you are right Russian fighters are most popular at the moment and they can not do something about it,


Yup.  I have Topuria high in my parlays and there's a couple others..  I hope the sanction thingy won't spoil this whole event as there are 5 Russians in it.

For now, I am very solid with Ilia Topuria moment the other fights that I am currently looking at I am still getting some research and looking even further for any bet to happen, for now I can be sure in Ilia Topuria at the moment, his wellcounded with both stand-up and the ground, and fighting his opponent with smart decision inside the octagon, his recent match was against Ryan Hall, which he didn't showcase anything in my opinion, he doesn't show any of his cards, they will not spoil the any of the event I guess Dana White doesn't listen to anyone at all.

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March 14, 2022, 10:01:45 AM
If UFC fires Russian fighters, EFC league, that belongs to Khabib Nurmagomedov will sign them with open hands. I think Dana White understands that and dont want to lose that piece of his industry. I am pretty much sure that Khabib can offer them good salary, as I think he can get support from his UAE friends.
That's exactly why Dana White is not banning Russian fighters. He knows very well that if he bans them and Eagle Fighting Championship will sign them,  Wink
The Eagle FC is going to be really big because these Russian fighters make up a lot of the revenues that are generated in the UFC. And then Dana White is going to have a potential opponent to think about in my opinion. I am quite sure that Khabib Nurmagomedov has the ability to afford the fighters a lot of money.
Eagle FC will need more sponsors to pay for bigger fighters. The ones they can afford recently are the ones that are actaully out of the game. It is however acceptable for the Russian MMA fighters to fight under Eagle than having no fights at all if they are all banned because of the politics in sports today. FIFA and UEFA suspend Russian teams, it's not a pretty story but I wouldn't scratch out the possibility that it will also happen in any sports if this war prolongs.

I think the UFC is surely going to get pressured by certain parties to ban the Russian fighters. UFC must be in a big dilemma right now. If they ban Russian fighters, they lose the support of the Russian people and some great fighters also. If they don't Ban the Russian fighters, Ukrainian supporters will be lost by them. I think it's time for them to be a bad ASS and not ban the Russian fighters.



That's exactly why Dana White is not banning Russian fighters. He knows very well that if he bans them and Eagle Fighting Championship will sign them,  Wink
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Eagle FC is an alternative choice for the popular stage if Russian fighters have been banned from the UFC, Eagle FC will be even more jarring when many former Russian fighters will grace the Eagle FC octagon facing off against the EFC champions fighters.

I actually cannot agree with you because I think Eagle FC will not be ""jarring"" if the Russian fighters do decide to go to Eagle FC. But I  agree that Eagle FC will always be the second option for them because no one pays like the UFC.
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