Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 348. (Read 100129 times)

I had a good laught recently, odds on sterling are 4.35 and higher can you imagine that? I just realised, this is the first time odds on a champ are so high. Last time I saw something like that, was first fight against Miocic vs Ngannou. Odds on Miocic were +2 while he was a champ. And that is ok, because Ngannou came with a record of 10-0 to this fight, all KO. I think several guys here are the only one who believe in Aljos victory.

Ceremonial weigh ins start in around 4 hours.  This event seems a little chalky but you make do with what you have.  Here's my degen parlay for the event.  Follow at your own risk, this is more like a lottery ticket for fun.  And I'm no MMA betting sharp, just an afficionado like most of you guys.  

Ticket 1:  Volk - Roz at 1.89 - 10 USD
Ticket 2 Add:  Chim - Yan - Arce at 4.15 - 5 USD
Ticket 3 Add:  Pennington - Garry - Dern at 15.01 - 2 USD
Ticket 4 Add:  Madsen - Rodriguez - Hernandez at 87.29 - 2 USD
Ticket 5 Add:  Gall - Vanderaa at 427.37 - 1 USD

That's my UFC weekend.  

UFC 273:  Ceremonial weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEVjdCIAl6U

Here were the official weigh in results.  A couple of fighers missed weight with one getting a -20% penalty for missing weight by 2.5 lbs.

Alexander Volkanovski (144.5) vs. Chan Sung Jung (144.5)
Aljamain Sterling (134.5) vs. interim champ Petr Yan (134)
Gilbert Burns (170) vs. Khamzat Chimaev (170)
Mackenzie Dern (115.5) vs. Tecia Torres (115.5)
Mark Madsen (155) vs. Vinc Pichel (155.5)
Ian Garry (170.5) vs. Darian Weeks (170.5)
Jairzinho Rozenstruik (252.5) vs. Marcin Tybura (253)
Aspen Ladd (136) vs. Raquel Pennington (134.5)
Mickey Gall (170.5) vs. Mike Malott (170.5)
Aleksei Oleinik (244) vs. Jared Vanderaa (266)
Josh Fremd (185.5) vs. Anthony Hernandez (186)
 Kay Hansen (118.5)* vs. Piera Rodriguez (115)
Julio Arce (136.5)** vs. Daniel Santos (135.5)

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Khamzat's fight with Burns I think will measure whether he can absolutely have the chance to get a shot for title. Many had been rooting for him which obviously made him the bookies fave. But some are also confident with Burns. Between Usman and Adesanya, its likely Usman that can beat Cumshot.

Just calculating risk because its highly likely that Khamzat will submit Burns, I bet by Submission while also betting Burns by KO? Anyone did this?

The thing is if Dana was to feed a Conor who hasn't won in years to Usman, and he loses again. That probably wouldn't be the end of his career, but there's a certain point that people start losing interest in a fighter. We've seen the shift in mentality towards Conor the last few years, mainly because he has lost a lot of his witty comments, and its mainly now changed to aggression, and insulting without actually being funny at all. Then, he doesn't back up the talk in the cage. Its only good to be a good talker if you can back it up, and previously Conor did just that. That's why everyone loved him. He was controversial, and a fantastic fighter. Easily one of the best to ever be in the UFC. Although, he has seemed a shadow of himself in recent years.

Whatever the reason for losing his ability to win fights, I do think a lot of fighters now know his game plan if you can stay safe in the first round you probably make it the second round. By that time Conor is usually exhausted, and a pretty easy win. Usman has the skills to avoid for long enough to get the takedown, and wear on Conor.

Anyway, back to your original question. Will Dana sanction the fight right away? Probably not, it makes more sense for both parties to get some wins under the belt first. It starts to build some of the lost hype from Conor, and Conor likely prolongs the attention he gets from fans, which likely directly translates to more money for both Dana, and Conor.

I don't think he'll get the title shot right away, and as a fan I hope he doesn't.

For me, Kamaru Usman is a great fighter and obviously, he did get rocked in those fights but he did also come back. I also know that Khamzat Chimaev is a great fighter also and at this moment it seems like he is really Unstoppable. 

And I think people often forget about the power of Kamaru Usman. he also has the power of knocking out people in one punch. I think the way to decide who is better between Kamaru Usman and Khamzat Chimaev is to have a fight between them. And yes I agree that a lot of people want to see Israel Adesanya fight Khamzat.

I sleep and see how Chimaev is taking $30k bonus On every interview this guy is very modest, but managed to create such a huge hype around himself. And what is amazing when he is trash talking, he is not humiliating his opponent, but rather tell how dominant he is and proves that in fights We have two championship fights this weekend, but true main event looks like is Chimaev vs Burns.

Petr Yan is trolling Henry Cejudo and Sean O'Malley again. He says they will be in his corner, only as a water boys

Nice convo as I am analyzing how this Sterling-Yan rematch goes. I am thinking of betting on Yan but the return is just too small considering he is surrounded with lots of issues. Yan will be fighting without his usual team. We are not even sure who will be in his corner as Cejudo suddenly backs out on his offer. Aljo is at 4.30 which seems tempting. I don't think Aljo is not taking this fight seriously. I am following his facebook and he seems doing good. And am I the only one seeing that he looked juiced?

I do not remember what occured during the first fight, however, Petr Yan is a human computer in the octagon. He will download the strategy of his opponents during the beginning of the fight before planning his own attacks. Also, if Aljamain Sterling did not have a neck injury during training, I speculate that he would not have gotten very tired and he might have won by points.

I really think he never need to get tested if he wins against Gilbert Burns, but in all great fights that Khamzat Chimaev have that I think worth the note was Ikram Aliskerov and Li Jingliang only, the rest was just cannon fodder in my opinion, and all rounds was never really going into round 3 because he is just that strong of a fighter so yes I totally Agree that Gilbert Burns will be a competitive fight for Khamzat Chimaev, pretty much if he wins this one, there is no doubt many will surely think he can beat Kamaru Usman as well, and yes I am having doubts myself but I really like Khamzat Chimaev's style,


In my opinion, he needs to start from the bottom of the division, I don't think he can stand a chance against Khamzat Chimaev, Belal Muhammad, or Gilbert Burns before aiming his target with the Champion Kamaru Usman, but year Conor McGregor is one hepty guy that can get what he wants with pure cash, So we can not argue about that, I really don't believe that Conor can really survive this division, especially with the number of wrestlers in here he surely need to understand more about defending against the grappling of Khabib Nurmagomenodov then he can surely stand a chance.

I don't think if McGregor loses the fight against Kamaru Usman, it will be the end of his career. especially because he just moved on to the 170-pound weight class. 

I also have seen a lot of clips where Conor McGregor talks about how he is going to get to the top of the 170-pound fighting. But I obviously think he has no chance against Kamaru Usman.

I think Joe Rogan put it the correct way, he said,Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir-kbFuDS-Y

You seriously cannot say that about Kamaru Usman, he made 5 title defenses after getting the title from Tyron Woodley who is by the way cut from the UFC after that because of his performance, two times he faced Colby Covington and twice Jorge Masvidal and he got rocked in those fights and the only tough match up was Gilbert Burns and even in that fight Kamary Usman was rocked badly even though he was able to recover and win the fight.

Khamzat Chimaev has legit one punch knockout power and he is huge for the Welterweight division and you think he is not up to the mark to get the title against Kamaru Usman . I want to see him fight Israel Adesanya as well and those will be great fights if he continues this domination.

How are people feeling about McGregor's return in the 170lb weight class?  Do you think he'll be given the title fight he's asking for?  I keep seeing tweets from him every day talking about how he's going to be the first 3 weight class champion by knocking out all his opponents.  While I think that is extremely unlikely given who his opponent would be, it is fun to think about.  I'm not sure he'll even be given the chance though.  Most people don't think he can stand in the ring with Kamaru Usman but it seems like the money will be there...  I'm not sure if Kamaru Usman wants to give McGregor the punchers chance, but I think he won't be able to turn down the money.  If McGregor loses this fight, will that be the end of his UFC career?

Well that's the thing, we haven't seen Chimaev really get tested in any of his fights in the UFC.  All of them ended before the third round.  Lol.  And it's not just in the UFC, it's for his whole MMA career.

Here's his Tapology page...  Lmao.  All finishes.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/188143-khamzat-girikhanov

So yeah, maybe Burns well take him to deep waters.  Burns is kinda chinny tho.

Anyway there are some nice odds for Chimaev finish props.  Chimaev to win via KO is 2.15 at Stake and it's at 3.10 via submission.

And here's the press conference.  I havent' seen it yet, it was live just an hour ago.  Enjoy!

UFC:  Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnBoyfzi8JA

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Yeah, if he lives up to the hype, and actually secures the belt, I'd probably cave in, and see he remains dominate for quite some bit, a bit like Usman has been. Although, like I've said before I've got some doubts about him living up to the hype. If we take a look at the fighters he has faced in his career, no one particularly makes me think he's champion material. Despite doing it in quick fashion, and usually quite dominant i.e not getting hit at all a lot of the time. I do think Burns is the ultimate test, lets see if he can remain dominant. If he wins in dominant fashion again against Burns I'll probably own up to being wrong. Although, I think at the very least he's going to find it tough. Burns has decent take down defense like I previously pointed out, and he was dangerous against Usman when they fought, even if it was short lived.

I've put a early bet on Burns to win at 5.00 odds, they were just too good to pass up. I'll probably rethink a lot of my predictions considering I made the mistake thinking the event was last weekend .

During their first fight, based on score cards, Petr was dominating third round, lost second round, and won first round by split decision. I have gone quickly through Yans score cards in previous fights and he usually looses first round, then win all other rounds. If Aljo did not find a successful strategy in first round or wont be able to eliminate Yan in first round, we will see a repeat of their first fight. I think that Aljo is not taking this fight serious. He is clowning around, when Yan is pumped to get his belt back.

It appears that the Oscar winner for best acting performance by a fighter in UFC 259 is very much underestimated for this rematch vs. Petr Yan. Aljamain Sterling was training with a neck injury that required surgery. He had the surgery only after the fight and this has taken him many months to heal. I predict a split decision victory for the best actor. He will win rounds 1 to 3 with a round that will be an arguable win for both fighters. Petr Yan will win rounds 4 to 5.

That is so hype and popular Chimaev is the impact he have with every fight he have surely would make him this popular that is why Dana White has a new asset to look forward too a cash cow that he can rely on, and if Chimaev would win against Gilbert Burns then I think that the hype will just explode into a devastating fire,


Well, if he can not beat Yan, then I think he would do anything to put some cash in the fight, if what ever outcome may happen he can still get some huge amount on what he is doing, even though people would forget him as a champion. But I think he can still stay in the Guinness book to be champion because of Disqualification. I think he can still reign that title because no body wants it.


Anything could happen inside the ring. Gilbert Burns has his advantage inside the Octagon, and so are Khamzat Chimaev. But we can not look at Burns Body Physique alone as for what happened to Isarael Adesanya VS Paulo Costa. But Adesanya is not a grappler like Khamzat Chimaev, so he can sure used a different means to win, surely he can win with his advantage, but what I mean is Physique is not a distinction to say what may happen with the fight; what I think he is not a kind to accept a challenge without even knowing how Gilbert Burns can do on the ring.

Totally agree, with all the hype and skill khamzat has, nothing compares to a title fight. Even though burns lost and there was no crowd, the experience and pain of fighting Usman is something khamzat does not have under his belt yet. I think after the first, which is when burns is at his best, if he is unable to rock khamzat or at least respect his power, it will be the beginning of the end. Not just for the fight, but potentially his career. How can you lose a title fight and then to the best up and coming fighter.

I mean, we are still talking about MMA and the welterweight division is still a weight class where a single shot could end it all and anyone can be caught off guard. What I would say in the case of Burns, is his much greater experience at this level of fighting, and sometimes, that can weigh heavily in a fight. It might not be much, but if used at the right time and in the right way can be a great asset for Burns. If he recognizes the oportunity.