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January 01, 2022, 10:16:35 AM
No wonder there are fighters who chose to be cocky, do they get more pay thru it?

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

Just like Logan, more people will want to see him fight and he could get a lot of money for each fight. Boxing and MMA are benefitting from what he is doing I think he still will get good money as long as he is youtube sensation.

I don't know if the sport, in general, is benefiting from their antis. People might get drawn into it, but when they see that most of the rosters don't match that outspokenness and bravado, they might be quick to turn away. That's just my two cents on it, and I could be off by a mile, but it's never good when everything is dependant on a couple of individuals and their shtick.
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January 01, 2022, 10:09:58 AM
No wonder there are fighters who chose to be cocky, do they get more pay thru it?

I think it is all for show and to get more attention for people to buy their tickets, well you can say it is a strategy for some to make a ruckus before the fight
so they can get more hype.

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

That is the thing, in my opinion, there are many who want to see his loss rather than people watching him because of his unique style, his style is just to evade, and the most audience wants to see him lost in a fight and another thing is his cocky behavior that most people don't like, there are some that are paying to see him get beaten inside the ring, that is why he is the money maker

Just like Logan, more people will want to see him fight and he could get a lot of money for each fight. Boxing and MMA are benefitting from what he is doing I think he still will get good money as long as he is youtube sensation.

Yep! another thing is Logan or Jake Paul's cockiness and arrogance, so people would love to pay to see them get beaten up real bad, and not because of their skill and strength, people just want to see them get messed up and this is entertainment.
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January 01, 2022, 08:52:43 AM
No wonder there are fighters who chose to be cocky, do they get more pay thru it?

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

Just like Logan, more people will want to see him fight and he could get a lot of money for each fight. Boxing and MMA are benefitting from what he is doing I think he still will get good money as long as he is youtube sensation.
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December 31, 2021, 05:08:17 PM
No way a fighter spends more than he or she can earn and spend it in a training camp.  And afaik, the trainers get a percentage of the fighters’ purse as per agreement.  Cos if fighters spend more than they can earn on training then we wouldn’t have the early prelim cards.  Lol.  There wouldn’t be fighters who can afford to be in the UFC.
No they are not spending more than they are earning, but most of them are just surviving doing one of the most dangerous combat sport on earth.
I watched some interviews and fighters spoke how much they pay for fight camps, and it's lot more money than you think.
Higher ranked fighters does earn much more if they are unbeatable like Khabib or if they trashtalk like McGregor did in his prime.

No they’re not and I was just trying to point that out from your other post when you said UFC fighters spend more for training camps than what they earn in the UFC.  That’s just plain wrong.  And to think about it, the prelim boxers have it way worse cos a lot of them earn 1k, less than 1k and they have to pay for training camp and travel themselves...  And worse of it is they have to scrounge around for sponsors.  In the UFC, it’s all taken care off by the company.



And that 10k is just from Venum, Crypto.com and Monster energy drink.  The UFC pays an average of around 25k to 30k for early prelim fighters, double at prelims.  So all in all not bad compared to boxing that pays just 1k for new fighters.
Boxers don't have middleman and they don't work for anyone so they are getting complete payment, not just percentage from deal.
They can have any sponsors they choose, and they don't have to pay many coaches for all different sports.
Dana White is saying that MMA fighters earn more but that was expected to hear from him, but UFC is top league so fighters in other organization earn much less.

Floyd Mayweather earned more than $560 million
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Conor McGregor earned around  $15 million

We’re talking about your average boxer and UFC fighter here...  And that’s the point, boxing pay is top heavy.  The top guys get paid millions while the little guys at the bottom have almost nothing.  And Mayweather is an outlier.  The guy is a smart businessman and has his promotions company behind him...  Not all boxers are like him.  I mean how much did Tyson Fury earn for his bout vs Wilder?  I don’t think he’ll be raking in as much as Mayweather.

But the thing is, do I think UFC fighters should get paid more?  Of course I do.  But to say that your average UFC fighter isn’t getting paid enough to pay for training camp is just plain wrong.

Edit:  Happy New Year everybody!!!
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December 31, 2021, 02:22:11 PM
I suggest you to search YouTube for the year 2021 ufc highlights. Or watch active fighters career review. Dont know if you are celebrating New Year rigtr now behind the table and family, but if not and TV is no occupied, you can always turb on ufc tv  Cheesy

When I start to feel that I miss ufc, i watch some old fight or knockout compilation. I dont feel like watching whole 5*5 round fight, but top10 knockouts is always fun to watch.
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December 31, 2021, 01:36:25 PM
I don't like Jake Paul and his circus acts, but he proved my words that boxers do earn more than MMA fighters and he knocked out two times ex UFC champion doing that.
It would be much different result if the fight was in octagon with full MMA rules, but they both agreed on boxing rules for this fights.

Happy New Year to all UFC and MMA fans and I hope we are going to see good action in 2022 first even starting on January 15!

Yeah, I'll give credit to Jake Paul for not only beating Woodley twice, but doing it in style on the second go of it. I'm a little bit disappointed in Woodley, but at the end of the day it was pretty clear he was there to collect a pay check, and probably doesn't overly care about the result. Though, I expect he's quite annoyed he got embarrassed by Jake Paul, and that'll forever be on his record.

January 15th will be a welcome sight, I've been missing my UFC. Its the only thing that's missing in my holidays.
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December 31, 2021, 01:30:09 PM
It annoys me as a fan, I can't imagine how annoyed MMA fighters are to see that people like Jake Paul who are completely new to the sport are making more money in one fight than most UFC fighters will ever hold in their careers. Its quite sickening, I'm not sure if that's Dana's fault though or if its just the ridiculous amount of money that Boxing has come to spend.
I don't like Jake Paul and his circus acts, but he proved my words that boxers do earn more than MMA fighters and he knocked out two times ex UFC champion doing that.
It would be much different result if the fight was in octagon with full MMA rules, but they both agreed on boxing rules for this fights.

Happy New Year to all UFC and MMA fans and I hope we are going to see good action in 2022 first even starting on January 15!
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December 31, 2021, 10:37:19 AM
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Floyd Mayweather earned more than $560 million
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Conor McGregor earned around  $15 million

OMG, somehow I've missed that fighters could be earning such numbers. I knew that some of them were making tens of millions in one fight, but what I read in the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor wiki article really shocked me. They say Mayweather reportedly earned $280 million from the fight. This is more than highest-paid movie stars earning in a whole year! I've been always thinking that movie stars were the ones who earns the most.

Well, it's never too late to learn something new, even just a few hours before the New Year. Smiley

Have a great New Year's Eve celebration, guys, and be happy in 2022!

The "MONEY" Mayweather sure could earn that high in just 1 fight the word Money is accompanied in his name that is why many boxers sure want to really fight him, and even they attain a lost to Mayweather they would surely gain enough money to sustain themselves and their family,

But we can not compare the average profit in UFC and with boxing, if we compare both events boxing events tend to have just 3 to 1 fights only while in the UFC, 1 event could have a potential of more than 10 fights per event, so the event money gains will be divided by each fighter, but the sad truth is Dana White is the one getting a huge sum in every event per Pay Per View, anyway, we can not compare every profit in the UFC with an exhibition match in a Jake Paul match because all the sum of money they would get will be divided in each fighter, plus the show money a fighter can get, well even though a fighter loss they still get a large sum of money right.

Happy New Year To all
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December 31, 2021, 09:45:01 AM
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Floyd Mayweather earned more than $560 million
vs
Conor McGregor earned around  $15 million

OMG, somehow I've missed that fighters could be earning such numbers. I knew that some of them were making tens of millions in one fight, but what I read in the Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Conor McGregor wiki article really shocked me. They say Mayweather reportedly earned $280 million from the fight. This is more than highest-paid movie stars earning in a whole year! I've been always thinking that movie stars were the ones who earns the most.

Well, it's never too late to learn something new, even just a few hours before the New Year. Smiley

Have a great New Year's Eve celebration, guys, and be happy in 2022!
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December 31, 2021, 08:28:05 AM
As for sponsorships, yeah, there was much more money to be made before the rebook deal, and Rory was one of the more outspoken fighters that lost money when rebook set in.



Before the reebok deal, there was a famous incident in 2010 where Tito Ortiz of punishment athletic clothing promised to pay Jason Brilz $500 for having their logo on his fight shorts.

Jason Brilz won his fight and received $0 of the $500 he was promised in sponsorship fees. Many MMA fighters promised sponsorship money in that era, never got the deal in writing and were never paid.

Its very hard to get an accurate picture of the MMA sponsorship landscape. It has such a long history with many cases where people exaggerate or say things that aren't true. Which makes it hard to tell what really happens behind the scenes.

Ok, I am sure there were incidences, but I think you can count how many times a certain brand appeared on someone's shorts at that time, and if it's more than once then you bet they didn't do it for free. Now, promising some money and having an actual contract between two parties where one can be legally obligated to pay the other are two different things. I am 100% positive lesser-known fighters made handshake deals and a promise of pay they never got. And as for fighters exaggerating, all I know is they were pissed that Reebok took over and that they couldn't get any outside sponsorships. exaggeration or not, I am inclined to believe the fighters than anything else.
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December 31, 2021, 06:58:00 AM
As for sponsorships, yeah, there was much more money to be made before the rebook deal, and Rory was one of the more outspoken fighters that lost money when rebook set in.



Before the reebok deal, there was a famous incident in 2010 where Tito Ortiz of punishment athletic clothing promised to pay Jason Brilz $500 for having their logo on his fight shorts.

Jason Brilz won his fight and received $0 of the $500 he was promised in sponsorship fees. Many MMA fighters promised sponsorship money in that era, never got the deal in writing and were never paid.

Its very hard to get an accurate picture of the MMA sponsorship landscape. It has such a long history with many cases where people exaggerate or say things that aren't true. Which makes it hard to tell what really happens behind the scenes.
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December 30, 2021, 06:38:35 PM
No they are not spending more than they are earning, but most of them are just surviving doing one of the most dangerous combat sport on earth.
I watched some interviews and fighters spoke how much they pay for fight camps, and it's lot more money than you think.
Higher ranked fighters does earn much more if they are unbeatable like Khabib or if they trashtalk like McGregor did in his prime.
If we look at the statistics boxing is probably considered more dangerous due to the long term effects that getting punched in the head does, compared to hard blows, but non repeated punches. Obviously, the research is still being conducted (including other sports like football), but I expect that Boxing does have more long term effects, especially considering the effect that the boxing glove has, i.e padding the blows allowing more blows than a smaller glove like the UFC does.

Since, if you get hurt in UFC its likely game over, and if its not your trying to dive to the legs, and survive. Boxing, quite often the blow isn't enough to knock you over, but your dazed enough to not know exactly what's going on, and therefore take more shots.

All these talks about UFC salaries started after YouTubers started to beat UFC fighters and boast with high payment and easy money. Jake Paul vs Ben Askren, Tyron Woodley - Jake trolled Dana White with huge cheques and numbers of PPV sold. Jake Paul was planned to fight Tommy Fury, but after Tommy got injured, he has fought Woodley for the second. Long story short, only 65k PPV were sold Cheesy I think that every UFC event gets +100k PPV sold. Found that UFC 268 sold 700k PPV. I think UFC 269 (Poirier vs Oliveira) sold even more, and Ngannou vs Gane is definitely gonna set a record.
It annoys me as a fan, I can't imagine how annoyed MMA fighters are to see that people like Jake Paul who are completely new to the sport are making more money in one fight than most UFC fighters will ever hold in their careers. Its quite sickening, I'm not sure if that's Dana's fault though or if its just the ridiculous amount of money that Boxing has come to spend.
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December 30, 2021, 04:12:50 PM
All these talks about UFC salaries started after YouTubers started to beat UFC fighters and boast with high payment and easy money. Jake Paul vs Ben Askren, Tyron Woodley - Jake trolled Dana White with huge cheques and numbers of PPV sold. Jake Paul was planned to fight Tommy Fury, but after Tommy got injured, he has fought Woodley for the second. Long story short, only 65k PPV were sold Cheesy I think that every UFC event gets +100k PPV sold. Found that UFC 268 sold 700k PPV. I think UFC 269 (Poirier vs Oliveira) sold even more, and Ngannou vs Gane is definitely gonna set a record.

Well, they surely get different income in every PPV, maybe depending on the situation as well, and maybe because of the holiday season people just tend to put money on their mouths than to see a boxing match between a retired UFC fighter and a Youtuber, well just like I have said that 65k will surely be divided into both fighters depending on the outcome, while that 700k PPV a huge sum of that will go to Dana White, I don't really say that Dana White is doing wrong and that is his money he can do whatever he wants with it, and we can not compare UFC fights with a Basketball match, and a boxing match because we will definitely would get Different PPV well I am just saying that White should be considerate with his fighters and might as well give them a large cut on the profit because fighters are prone to injuries, and I am not talking about injuries that can be dealt with healing in time, but injuries that are lifetime, and fighters like this should get some support from the UFC management that are unable to work because of the UFC, But yeah Dana White is not generous enough to do such things,

Well Ngannou VS Gane could surely hit a new record again, a much-awaited match was between these two Heavyweights, so that is for sure.
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December 30, 2021, 03:46:54 PM
No way a fighter spends more than he or she can earn and spend it in a training camp.  And afaik, the trainers get a percentage of the fighters’ purse as per agreement.  Cos if fighters spend more than they can earn on training then we wouldn’t have the early prelim cards.  Lol.  There wouldn’t be fighters who can afford to be in the UFC.
No they are not spending more than they are earning, but most of them are just surviving doing one of the most dangerous combat sport on earth.
I watched some interviews and fighters spoke how much they pay for fight camps, and it's lot more money than you think.
Higher ranked fighters does earn much more if they are unbeatable like Khabib or if they trashtalk like McGregor did in his prime.

And that 10k is just from Venum, Crypto.com and Monster energy drink.  The UFC pays an average of around 25k to 30k for early prelim fighters, double at prelims.  So all in all not bad compared to boxing that pays just 1k for new fighters.
Boxers don't have middleman and they don't work for anyone so they are getting complete payment, not just percentage from deal.
They can have any sponsors they choose, and they don't have to pay many coaches for all different sports.
Dana White is saying that MMA fighters earn more but that was expected to hear from him, but UFC is top league so fighters in other organization earn much less.

Floyd Mayweather earned more than $560 million
vs
Conor McGregor earned around  $15 million
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December 30, 2021, 03:17:38 PM
All these talks about UFC salaries started after YouTubers started to beat UFC fighters and boast with high payment and easy money. Jake Paul vs Ben Askren, Tyron Woodley - Jake trolled Dana White with huge cheques and numbers of PPV sold. Jake Paul was planned to fight Tommy Fury, but after Tommy got injured, he has fought Woodley for the second. Long story short, only 65k PPV were sold Cheesy I think that every UFC event gets +100k PPV sold. Found that UFC 268 sold 700k PPV. I think UFC 269 (Poirier vs Oliveira) sold even more, and Ngannou vs Gane is definitely gonna set a record.
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December 30, 2021, 12:58:47 PM
Interesting, I wasn't aware that the money in boxing is just for the bigger fights, though I guess it makes sense when they pay upwards to a hundred million for certain fighters. Although, I always try, and take reported figures with a pinch of salt since I always find the media report inflated prices as a way of getting more people to click their articles. As far as I'm aware the contracts specifically state that the rewards for winning, losing or whatever are not to be disclosed to a third party.

If boxing is only paying 1k for new fighters I find that a little unfair, and maybe both UFC, and boxing need a restructure.

They tend to hype an event and I think that is a normal thing so many would buy their tickets mostly influencers like the Logan Brothers tend to have many followers that is why the fight is on the hype the Logan Brother is pretty well known on their youtube channel that is why their fans that well-known to boxing and doesn't really like boxing could be bought the fights ticket and Jake Paul that is not a pro boxer that is why many are curious about the fight and the hype towards both fighter while giving their best curses to each other will surely hype the fight, and surely even though Jake Paul would knock out some UFC fighters I think he promises them a lot of sum of money,

Dana White sure needs to think twice he needs to pay his fighters much credit because their life is at stake here if you would because when you look at Conor McGregor's paycheck in the UFC it is $5 Million but when he fought Floyd Mayweather inside the ring with boxing he made $85 Million USD well this is just an example you can search it on the internet, I truly believe that UFC gross in paying up their fighters with 1 event even if the event would have a guaranteed $195 Million in pay preview that will be divided in every fighter and as usual the big numbers will be on Dana Whites part, and because there are many fighters involve in 1 event, while with Boxing 1 event earnings will completely be going to the 2 fighters and their show fee as well.
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December 30, 2021, 06:00:21 AM
Interesting, I wasn't aware that the money in boxing is just for the bigger fights, though I guess it makes sense when they pay upwards to a hundred million for certain fighters. Although, I always try, and take reported figures with a pinch of salt since I always find the media report inflated prices as a way of getting more people to click their articles. As far as I'm aware the contracts specifically state that the rewards for winning, losing or whatever are not to be disclosed to a third party.

If boxing is only paying 1k for new fighters I find that a little unfair, and maybe both UFC, and boxing need a restructure.
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December 29, 2021, 05:18:11 PM
UFC fighters get paid good money for wearing their Venum gear, that Crypto.com sweat gear and everybody gets paid by Monster energy drink.  That’s at least 10k USD right there per fight.
Fighters spend a lot of money on training camps so that 10K is not enough to cover everything, and most of the money sponsors are giving is going directly to UFC and I think fighters are getting small share.
No fighters is allowed to sign any separate deal with any sponsor and that tells you everything you need to know.
Nobody wants to reveal exact earnings but we know that many complained about paychecks and UFC is not allowing them to create some union Smiley



No way a fighter spends more than he or she can earn and spend it in a training camp.  And afaik, the trainers get a percentage of the fighters’ purse as per agreement.  Cos if fighters spend more than they can earn on training then we wouldn’t have the early prelim cards.  Lol.  There wouldn’t be fighters who can afford to be in the UFC.

And that 10k is just from Venum, Crypto.com and Monster energy drink.  The UFC pays an average of around 25k to 30k for early prelim fighters, double at prelims.  So all in all not bad compared to boxing that pays just 1k for new fighters.
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December 29, 2021, 02:35:48 PM


Askar Askarov could be champ!  That’s 4 Russians having the possibilty of getting the belt in their respective divisions.  Askarov is lined at 6.50 or something.  The rest of the guys aren’t that great imho...  Like Salikhov, this guy’s good and I have him to beat Michel Pereira on Jan 15 but he won’t get the chance to fight for the belt like the rest of those guys.  And Salikhov is 37 years old.

Oh and Belal Muhammad is not Russian.  He was born and grew up in Chicago.  The dude is basically white washed.  Cheesy

Well included fighters that I think is Russian, but I was shocked Belal Muhammad is not from Russia, but a Palestinian but raised in Chicago, Illinois sorry I really thought he is Russian, but anyway yes 4 Russian fighters could possibly get the belt in a different division, But looking forward to those 4 Russian if they can really obtain what they want,

UFC 270

Well I know the fight will be on January 2022 the UFC 270 I am pretty much excited about it well going on their Sparring video if you have seen it online here is a screenshot




If you have watched the video man Ciryl Gane looks very agile than Francis Ngannou, much faster and surely has technical skills, but yes sparring is not considered an official match and we can not see all of their technique, and sometimes they are very different when it comes to an official fight, but this sparring is so fun to watch and Francis Ngannou says in an interview that he looks really bad in those Sparring videos, but this is all tactics and he will show a very different one on the real match, but pretty much I am very excited for UFC 270.
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December 29, 2021, 01:58:55 PM
Someone made this funny and scary poster of Aljamain Sterling hiding from Petr Yan, but he is now saying that he wants to shut these clowns up by beating Petr Yan in a rematch fight.
He was not fighting since UFC 259 and first fight with Yan, and I think that his sponsors are not so happy about this fake champion doing nothing, while Yan had a fight in the end of october with Cory Sandhagen.
I can't wait for this fight to happen to see Yan kicking his ass for real this time, and not using his knees at all Smiley

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