Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 375. (Read 100100 times)

Jake did not open eyes. It was well knows fact boxers earn a lot. By looking on their lifestyle, it was clear that top boxers swim in money. When I was a kid a had a poster of Mike Tyson with white tiger and a luxury car They did not earn millions, but money that time had different buying power. Hundred thousand in 90s was like several millions today. But what Jake did, he showed mma fighters that they can earn more in a fight against blogger, instead of training for years, competing for years and being a champion. He showed that money is more valuable than being a champion or have a reputation.

Uncle Dana is not gonna pay his female fighters more money before paying the men. So what if the female fighters have only fans; so do some of the men! UFC is all about the extra income you make on the side through endorsements and partnerships, just like with most sports stars.
It's true Jake Paul opened the eyes to the casual viewer about the pay of fighters, some making as little as 12g a night, Dana could give more money, or increase the pay out for fight of the night so the fights will be more brutal. But really the fighters need to make endorsement and partnerships to make as much money as they can. Once they retire they will have to continue with that lifestyle anyway.

This! I mean, If women or men want to grab some additional income, or do it because they feel free with their bodies, then more power to them. But the pay needs to be adequate when they are entering the octagon. It's just sad when the release fighters pay.


But until we get more high-profile fighters associated with it, nothing will come of it, unfortunately. And it seems things have quieted down a bit as no one is talking about it that much.

Is that twitter? Nobody cares abut twitter followers other than SJWs. Ngannou has 3.6 million on Insta compared to 3 million for Masvidal. They're all dwarfed by McGregor's 43.8 though.


It's not about that. 500-600k for a champion fighter of Ngannou's calibre is nothing and we're not saying they should be getting paid the same as boxers, but when they can make millions in boxing there's bound to be an exodus to that sport. From what I understand Ngannou  just wants the option to be able to fight in boxing but current UFC contracts keep them locked in so they can't do anything outside of it and I think those sort of restrictive terms are going to shoot the UFC in the foot, because they just won't re-sign and go over to boxing. At the moment fighters like The Paul brothers are making more money than world champs like Francis which they're obviously going to take as an insult. UFC fighters should be paid more, but we're not saying they should be getting the big bucks from boxing mega fights. Up their pay a little, boost the winning bonuses a bit and let the bigger fighters have cross-promo matches in boxing and UFC can take their cut of that as well otherwise champs like Ngannou won't be fighting in the UFC anymore which will be a real shame. 

UFC fighters can unite against UFC and put on the line their contracts, when asking about raise. In NHL 2004-2005 season players were also not satisfied with payments. Second NHL lockout was in 2012-2013. Two seasons lost… UFC fighters can do the same. If they will be fired, other organizations will fight for accepting them.


You are saying correct words. Ice hockey is more popular. Same is with boxing and UFC. You have mentioned safety. Again, 100% hit. Boxing is more dangerous than MMA. Injuries can be cured, but no one can cure the damage punch does to the brain. Also, ever heart that any MMA fighter died or get crippled during or in a short time after the fight? Boxing has hundred of such cases.

Found new info about situation with Ngannou. There is a clause in his contract, that does not allow him to compete in combat sport one year after his UFC contract ends. He is 35, becoming a boxing star at 37 is hard. (this news can be fake)

Dana should begin paying his women fighters more money or we might witness much of them open an onlyfans.com account for extra income hehehe. Did everyone watch Kay Hansen during UFC 270? She has an onlyfans.com account.

https://onlyfans.com/kayhansenmma

There are some of those pictures in Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KayHansenNSFW/

Jessica Andrade also has an account in onlyfans.com, however, I will not share this because it might cause very scary nightmares hehehehe.

in my opinion, Ice Hockey is more popular than Field Hockey, you can not compare the two, because mainly not all countries have a sport of field hockey mainly popularized in the USA ice hockey is very well-known and popular, and I myself really don't know that there is a field hockey game if you would not spout it here, I don't know if Field Hockey is the original sports and ice hockey just derived from field hockey or vice versa, but I think people like me would notice ice hockey more than field hockey, and from that I think we can conclude that there are many sponsors for ice hockey than with field hockey,

and again, we can not compare UFC and boxing and with their payments anyway, but I am just saying that UFC fighters should be compensated by the way sports could risk one's lives or involve the safety of someone should take a  huge profit out of it, or just give him all the profit that he earned or all-expense-paid should not be taken out on a fighters payment but should be on the management side, or if not pay a large amount to the fighter,

But anyway Dana White is the one controlling it so it is his decision, and there are no legal actions regarding this kind of treatment to the fighters,

The difference for me is the whole world is hearing about it now. You're quite right that this has been going on a long time, since fighters pay was probably even less than it's today. However, fighters are starting to be heard outside of the UFC, and people are taking notice. If that hurts the brand, then Dana will have no choice, but to change the way he pays fighters. Has others have rightly pointed out, he probably can't change it drastically for all the fighters on the roster, but I imagine he will have to up the wages for the more influential fighters, and definitely for the champions, and contenders.

UFC fighter pay has been discussed over the past 10 years, since Tito Ortiz and Dana White had their falling out.

It has a long history, which many are not aware of.

Leslie Smith in the past pushed project spearhead in an effort to unionize the UFC. Jon Fitch and John S. Nash pushed the Ali Act. Cung Le and Nate Quarry were also involved.

This goes back more than 5 years.

Will the current campaign on UFC fighter pay be any more successful than past attempts?

Somehow I don't think it will. Those who of us who have been around for awhile know why.

A bit underpaid is a bit of an understatement. This has been an issue for some time now but has been swept under the rug at first because it was generally understood that MMA wasn't generating enough to pay everybody as they should. Well, everybody but the UFC brass that is. However, as things changed financially for the UFC, talks about a union have been risen, but...well...fighters are not unionizing. Efforts have been made but fighters just do not want to get on the bad side of the UFC by grouping into a union. I mean, this is an oversimplification of the issue, but you get the gist.

I think it all comes down to who's earning the most money for the sport/sports owner/team etc.  I have heard that UFC fighters are a bit underpaid but I am not very well versed on the subject so not sure if there's any merit to that or not.  I am curious if the UFC has some sort of "players union" type deal like other sports do (baseball/basketball/NFL etc) where they can help fight for the fighters (no pun intended) to receive more fair contracts.

Oh...  Lol.  No way I’m paying .25 ETH for an Ngannou NFT.  I mean compared to legends like Khabib, Anderson Silva, GSP or even Royce Gracie, who is Ngannou?  Name value is low.  I would think Brock Lesnar has higher name value than him due to a larger fan base outside of MMA.  I think Nate Diaz would hold more value as an NFT.

And I think it’s a mistake that the UFC chose to have their NFT’s in a relatively unknown blockchain.  They’d be better off in Ethereum or in one of the L2’s.  I mean who would bridge coins to Flow just to get those NFT’s.

People who compare fighters payment in boxing and UFC and say that UFC fighters deserves to earn more, what could you say about payment in ice hockey and field hockey? Both sports require puck, equipment and stick. Top NHL players earn 10+ millions per season. Field hockey players get around 100k. Or compare soccer player payments with Australian football payments. Unfair again?

Just in, the Ngannou VS Gane fight, that Francis Ngannou has a knee injury when he fights Ciryl Gane, that is why he has those knee supports to cover the injured knee so basically, Francis Ngannou is fighting with 1 leg, if this is true then Ciryl Gane's has a handicap when he fought Ngannou, and that is why the fight ends up in a Decision, and Ngannou on the third round have decided to go on with the takedowns and wrestling his way to win, which is effective but at the same time, this time luck is on his side, what do you guys think?


For me, we can not compare them to Conor McGregor, and with that kind of level of hype, I really think that Sean O'Malley has no shine anymore when Marlon Vera Destroy's his ego, and I think that if they would fight again Marlon Vera will definitely going to win again, in my opinion, and with Aljamain Sterling keeps on dodging another fight, that was the rumors says, the UFC should strip him of the Bantamweight Champion, and give it to the most qualified one, for me Petr Yan or Marlon Vera.

There could be some other reason why Dana wasn't there. Maybe a family emergency or something else. It will be interesting to see if he gives an explanation. It would seem kind of petty if it's just about money. Francis hasn't really been disrespectful about the whole situation at least publicly. Behind the scenes it could be a different matter, but Ngannou really isn't getting the money he deserves. I think he was paid half a million for that fight. How much money is McGregor getting? We all know he wouldn't fight for that sort of money and he hasn't been champion ages. He was also allowed to fight in boxing with the UFC getting a cut. The same should happen here.


Dana can't really have half his fighters swanning off from the UFC to go compete in other combat sports. It doesn't really look good for business when fighters would rather be in boxing than MMA, though I do a agree it gets more attention on the UFC from boxing fans. Dana probably does need to allow for some leeway for the big fighters though. Just put a clause in that there's the option to fight in boxing matches but it has to be a UFC-cross promotion like the Mayweather McGregor fight and maybe the UFC gets 10-20% of the purse or whatever. Otherwise there's going to be an exodus of the best fighters because boxing is where the huge money is, especially if you can be your own promoter for the event. I mean, just look at the difference in sums of money:



I imagine Ngannou would make 5-10 million for a fight against Fury. Honestly speaking though, I don't think Francis would do very well in boxing unless he can get one of those freak knock-outs but if he can't do that against Gane then I doubt he will against Fury unless he gets lucky. Fury would probably just tire him out and I couldn't see Ngannou going the full 12 rounds with him. Maybe Francis just wants one or two huge paydays then he'll go off and do acting or something. Once he leaves the UFC though there's no going back so he has to be careful.

Don't know how accurate the following is but maybe Francis could just run down his contract with the UFC and let it expire:


I think Dana is hoping one of O'Malley and Paddy will be the new McGregor. I think they both have potential but probably not at Connor-level. They both get attention but

I don't get it. How's it a small number of followers if Francis Ngannou has 6 times more of them than Ciryl Gane?






In case you don't know, 661.3K followers is considered a lot. Kamaru Usman has 712.2K followers, for example.


Well, yeah, this is what's interesting to me too. I doubt anyone, apart from those connected to the sellers, is gonna buy it. Just look at the stats



Only one item has been bought so far. That's what you do so that people wouldn't think no one wants it. (My personal opinion. I may be wrong, of course).

Ridiculous. That's a way to burn a bridge with one of the best heavyweights we've seen in recent years. A potential money maker in Ngannou vs Jones if Jones would get off Twitter, and actually fight. Just seems like Dana is going about this the completely wrong way, and it'll end up with him losing the current champion, and other fighters will start piping up about their situation.

I love the UFC as a competition, but I just hate how they run it from time to time. I see that Jake Paul is still trying to push Dana to pay the fighters more, and while I'm not his biggest fan, I've got to respect the amount of effort he's at least seeming to put in.

What about his win over Donald Cerrone? That win was convincing. Those two losses to Poirier, lets just admit that Poirier developed and became stronger.

The problem with Conor McGregor last fight is that he is not in his division. Lightweight is not for him. His opponents are to tough to go to sleep after his left punch. Check out his record. Welterweight division and number of TKO by punches. Nearly perfect record. As soon as he moved lightweight and decided to be champ in two divisions, everything started to go bad for him.

Actually, you could be right about Sean O'Malley and paddy. But they do you seem to have a good impact on the crowd. But if they don't have the results to back their Talking up, then fans will also lose interest in them.

And about Conor McGregor, I think his situation is going to be more like Tony Ferguson. Because just like Tony didn't ever come back 100% from the beating he took against Justin, Conor McGregor also never recovered from the loss against Khabib Nurmagomedov. It's actually really hard to come back from a beating like that.

But if corner can come back and true that he is still one of the best then I think UFC is going to be more popular again.

Drama with Francis Ngannou and UFC continues and it seems like UFC threatened to sue him for talking about potential fight outside MMA in boxing.
Ngannou publicly said again that he is not happy with the way how UFC treated him, and I wouldn't be surprised if he lives them when his contract expires.
He fought out his contract after defeating Gane and now he has championship clause on the contract extended for three more fights.
Let's see what happens but I think his managers should start talking with other organizations now.
Maybe Dana is preparing for Jon Jones return.