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December 26, 2021, 04:46:24 PM
Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Yep! definitely lies, are spouting on Masdival's mouth, we can say that he is eluding every fight as much as possible as he could, and in my opinion that fast Knee takedown over Ben Askren was just a lucky shot and a fluke, and Ben Askren is not that great of a fighter he just got 1 win on UFC and that's it, and with his fight on Nate Diaz, I actually think it is not an impressive fight aswell, in my opinion, Nate Diaz should have retired by now, and I really don't like Jorge Masvidal and that lost on Kamaru Usman really gets into him, and making excuses to escape his fights,

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

Although this is just speculation, it is OK if Khamzat Chimaev will truly wait, and the end of this year is a great opportunity aswell as long as he becomes champion, right now the only fighters that are serious in saying that they want to fight Khamzat Chimaev right now are Neil Magny and Belal Muhammad, at least they are seriously accepting Khamzat Chimaev, not like Jorge Masvidal that saying all kinds of things that he might fight Khamzat but apparently Khamzat Chimaev is below the ranking, Masvidal is just scared to lose on a rank 11 fighter, Neil Magny is number 8 right now a good ranking for Khamzat for the title match, but Belal Muhammad is rank 5 a better ranking for Khamzat to instantly bounce higher ranking, but Neil Magny is the guy that really wants to fight Khamzat Chimaev now, so let's just wait and see.

Not Neil Magny.  He talked for a bit then gone quiet when Chimaev started asking for the match up.  I think the most serious guys who really wants to fight him are Belal Muhammad and Vicente Luque.

Anyway I’ve been going thru the betting market for future UFC champion again.  Lol.  It’s fun.  And it looks like 205 is wide open if I really think about it...  The champ is over 40 years old and top propsects that have a chance to be champ are Jiri Prochazka, Aleksandar Rakic and Magomed Ankalaev...  And with those three guys, I think Ankalaev is the best.  He’s lined at 11.00 to be champ before 2022 ends.  I hope Stake really opens these markets next year.  Smiley
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December 26, 2021, 03:53:25 PM
Eh, I can't blame him for playing the injury card. He got propped up really high and there were some expectations that have yet to be met, money-wise (from his point of view). So he's playing that card because he knows his stock will plummet if he looses his nex fight so he wants to make damn sure it pays well. As for Paul, I am shocked he ain't calling Logan Paul out, he already called out everybody else.

But it is not a great thing to do many fighters would want that position of his he should have given that to others that are willing to fight anyone especially Khamzat Chimaev, his stock will plummet down whether he likes it or not to fight if he doesn't want to fight fans will get sour of him and it is a bad thing for his career I think many have known about what he is doing and the UFC will surely force a fight for him, and Dana White will surely get doctors that he trust for another injury pop-up,

I don't know if Dana White would agree to that, Jake Paul is beating up retired UFC fighters but I don't know about active fighters if Dana White would allow that, because I think Dana White doesn't really like Jake Paul.

December,  in particular Christmas is one of my favourite times of the year, however its an absolute nightmare I have to wait so long without watching MMA. You just get so used to watching is every weekend, and occasionally missing a weekend, that I kind of feel lost now.

Luckily, the hype of some of the fights coming up has still got me in good spirits. Particularly looking forward to the Izzy fight. I've said it before, but Whittaker has probably the best chance in the division to hurt, and beat Izzy. At least right now, obviously Alex Pereira being in the UFC now might change things up a little, but I think his lack of grappling might be a problem. Izzy is at least a little more accustomed to it, and might be able to make the changes necessary to put Alex out of his comfort zone.

The same feeling, UFC fighting is my medicine and without it, I tend to find that relieves on something else by watching another MMA fight or boxing if there is an available one, but I just can't have a full feeling if there is not an upcoming fight that I would research and make analysis on who's going to win,

And what fights I am waiting for next year will be a great year, and just like you I would love to see an Israel Adesanya fight, Francis Ngannou VS Ciryl Gane, a Khamzat Chimaev fight is possible this January, well I think if a UFC fighter would know how much they can get in fighting Jake Paul than to fight inside the octagon I think they will surely go and grab that Jake Paul match even if they lose to Jake Paul they can still get a large sum of money.
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December 26, 2021, 12:31:36 PM
December,  in particular Christmas is one of my favourite times of the year, however its an absolute nightmare I have to wait so long without watching MMA. You just get so used to watching is every weekend, and occasionally missing a weekend, that I kind of feel lost now.

Luckily, the hype of some of the fights coming up has still got me in good spirits. Particularly looking forward to the Izzy fight. I've said it before, but Whittaker has probably the best chance in the division to hurt, and beat Izzy. At least right now, obviously Alex Pereira being in the UFC now might change things up a little, but I think his lack of grappling might be a problem. Izzy is at least a little more accustomed to it, and might be able to make the changes necessary to put Alex out of his comfort zone.
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December 26, 2021, 12:29:31 PM
No fights until the Holiday season but the news was burning hot with UFC fighters and right now Jorge Masvidal release in his youtube video an announcement that he is out of the injury list because after that Leon Edwards UFC 269 withdrawal from the said fight he is calling out names that are linked to him and calling out "actress that works at the Disney Channel" and that is Jake Paul, Nate Diaz, and lastly in his video he has called out Leon Edwards to sign another contract fighting him,

While Francis Ngannou was really impressed by Jake Paul's knockout over Tyron Woodley he was surprised by the Youtuber that knocks out Woodley that Jake Paul was really taking this thing seriously and that Jake Paul has surely Proven it.

And that is why right now Jake Paul is calling Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and Conor McGregor to fight him and now he is mocking McGregor for the weight over 190 lbs, Jake Paul Tweet  "Why does it look like Conor McGregor ate Conor McGregor, he's so thick now."

I don't know about you guys, I know many really hated Jake Paul and want someone to beat the crap out of him, but I agree with Ngannou that Jake Paul has proven something that he really can.

Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/mma/88670562?category=futures

Eh, I can't blame him for playing the injury card. He got propped up really high and there were some expectations that have yet to be met, money-wise (from his point of view). So he's playing that card because he knows his stock will plummet if he looses his nex fight so he wants to make damn sure it pays well. As for Paul, I am shocked he ain't calling Logan Paul out, he already called out everybody else.
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December 26, 2021, 11:35:00 AM
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Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.
One thing is certain every time Jorge Masvidal is injured his injuries are undisclosed, but he cannot pull out of fights without convincing the UFC doctors about the status of his injury. Now Jake Paul started calling him out, he is out of the injury list and lets see whether Dana White will allow him to fight Jake Paul.

When it comes to Khamzat Chimaev becoming the champion this year, if Dana White sees this odds he might fast track his title fight, as he said Khamzat Chimaev is 4 fights away from a title fight last time when media asked about his future plans of Khamzat Chimaev Grin.
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December 25, 2021, 11:10:36 AM
Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Yep! definitely lies, are spouting on Masdival's mouth, we can say that he is eluding every fight as much as possible as he could, and in my opinion that fast Knee takedown over Ben Askren was just a lucky shot and a fluke, and Ben Askren is not that great of a fighter he just got 1 win on UFC and that's it, and with his fight on Nate Diaz, I actually think it is not an impressive fight aswell, in my opinion, Nate Diaz should have retired by now, and I really don't like Jorge Masvidal and that lost on Kamaru Usman really gets into him, and making excuses to escape his fights,

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

Although this is just speculation, it is OK if Khamzat Chimaev will truly wait, and the end of this year is a great opportunity aswell as long as he becomes champion, right now the only fighters that are serious in saying that they want to fight Khamzat Chimaev right now are Neil Magny and Belal Muhammad, at least they are seriously accepting Khamzat Chimaev, not like Jorge Masvidal that saying all kinds of things that he might fight Khamzat but apparently Khamzat Chimaev is below the ranking, Masvidal is just scared to lose on a rank 11 fighter, Neil Magny is number 8 right now a good ranking for Khamzat for the title match, but Belal Muhammad is rank 5 a better ranking for Khamzat to instantly bounce higher ranking, but Neil Magny is the guy that really wants to fight Khamzat Chimaev now, so let's just wait and see.
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December 25, 2021, 10:05:02 AM

though it's too much hype for Chimaev', he really is skillful one that can be compared to Khabib.

It's the fairest to us, but we can't really know the fine print in the championship contracts. Maybe there are some checks in place to make that impossible to happen due to whatever reasons. Anyway, I doubt things will change because this thing will not happen all that much and they won't bother to change anything. Not the most flexible company out there.

it feels wrong to really give the belt to Aljo considering how bad the acting is. but because the disqualification of yan makes him the winner, it will be considered a win which means the belt at stake will be given to him. he knows to himself he didn't win that belt the right way. it deserves a rematch.
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December 25, 2021, 08:08:26 AM
No fights until the Holiday season but the news was burning hot with UFC fighters and right now Jorge Masvidal release in his youtube video an announcement that he is out of the injury list because after that Leon Edwards UFC 269 withdrawal from the said fight he is calling out names that are linked to him and calling out "actress that works at the Disney Channel" and that is Jake Paul, Nate Diaz, and lastly in his video he has called out Leon Edwards to sign another contract fighting him,

While Francis Ngannou was really impressed by Jake Paul's knockout over Tyron Woodley he was surprised by the Youtuber that knocks out Woodley that Jake Paul was really taking this thing seriously and that Jake Paul has surely Proven it.

And that is why right now Jake Paul is calling Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and Conor McGregor to fight him and now he is mocking McGregor for the weight over 190 lbs, Jake Paul Tweet  "Why does it look like Conor McGregor ate Conor McGregor, he's so thick now."

I don't know about you guys, I know many really hated Jake Paul and want someone to beat the crap out of him, but I agree with Ngannou that Jake Paul has proven something that he really can.

Lies!  Masvidal called out ‘everybody’ but the minute Colby Covington and Leon Edwards start to get interested and had the contracts sent for signing, Masvidal ‘gets injured’ in training.  He’s all talk.  He wouldn’t say anything when Chimaev started going after him and the BMF belt.

Chimaev’s to be champ before 2022 ends is at 6.50.

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/mma/88670562?category=futures
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December 25, 2021, 06:44:48 AM
So if that is not an option and is regulated by the contract between the UFC and the fighter, how to punish Yan then? Him losing the title but Aljo not winning it? Maybe?
Yeah, that's the angle I was going for. Punish Yan for the obvious illegal strike, probably by stripping him of the belt i.e vacating it, but don't give it to Aljo. Then setup a rematch between the two for the belt again. I think that's the fairest, since Aljo didn't win that belt, and Yan dealt a fight ending illegal blow.

This approach will likely stop fighters faking or you know not faking, but playing up to the extent of the injury to get the win. We've seen it a few times with eye pokes, the fighter basically asks if the fight finishes will it still count, and the referee usually tells them you can't ask that. So, while I'm definitely not accusing Aljo of that, I believe there has been other instances of this, and I think all fights should probably go down to a no contest. I guess, the flipside is fighters could potentially try an illegal blow if they're losing so bad to get the fight as a no contest rather than a loss. Difficult situation really with that, but absolutely a belt shouldn't be won via a disqualification it just feels wrong.

It's the fairest to us, but we can't really know the fine print in the championship contracts. Maybe there are some checks in place to make that impossible to happen due to whatever reasons. Anyway, I doubt things will change because this thing will not happen all that much and they won't bother to change anything. Not the most flexible company out there.
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December 24, 2021, 12:52:17 PM
Yeah, that's the angle I was going for. Punish Yan for the obvious illegal strike, probably by stripping him of the belt i.e vacating it, but don't give it to Aljo. Then setup a rematch between the two for the belt again. I think that's the fairest, since Aljo didn't win that belt, and Yan dealt a fight ending illegal blow.
I agree with you on this, but I think that Dana and UFC saw a potentially better deal with Sterling as Champion, because he is from United States and could get more profit from pay per views.
He signed many deals and sponsorship but we all know that he is not a true champion, and I am sure Yan or someone else will beat him in next fight.
I am waiting for that fight and I hope bookmakers will make Yan a big underdog, than I know what my next move will be Smiley
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December 24, 2021, 12:43:34 PM
No fights until the Holiday season but the news was burning hot with UFC fighters and right now Jorge Masvidal release in his youtube video an announcement that he is out of the injury list because after that Leon Edwards UFC 269 withdrawal from the said fight he is calling out names that are linked to him and calling out "actress that works at the Disney Channel" and that is Jake Paul, Nate Diaz, and lastly in his video he has called out Leon Edwards to sign another contract fighting him,

While Francis Ngannou was really impressed by Jake Paul's knockout over Tyron Woodley he was surprised by the Youtuber that knocks out Woodley that Jake Paul was really taking this thing seriously and that Jake Paul has surely Proven it.

And that is why right now Jake Paul is calling Nate Diaz, Jorge Masvidal, and Conor McGregor to fight him and now he is mocking McGregor for the weight over 190 lbs, Jake Paul Tweet  "Why does it look like Conor McGregor ate Conor McGregor, he's so thick now."

I don't know about you guys, I know many really hated Jake Paul and want someone to beat the crap out of him, but I agree with Ngannou that Jake Paul has proven something that he really can.
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December 24, 2021, 06:43:36 AM
So if that is not an option and is regulated by the contract between the UFC and the fighter, how to punish Yan then? Him losing the title but Aljo not winning it? Maybe?
Yeah, that's the angle I was going for. Punish Yan for the obvious illegal strike, probably by stripping him of the belt i.e vacating it, but don't give it to Aljo. Then setup a rematch between the two for the belt again. I think that's the fairest, since Aljo didn't win that belt, and Yan dealt a fight ending illegal blow.

This approach will likely stop fighters faking or you know not faking, but playing up to the extent of the injury to get the win. We've seen it a few times with eye pokes, the fighter basically asks if the fight finishes will it still count, and the referee usually tells them you can't ask that. So, while I'm definitely not accusing Aljo of that, I believe there has been other instances of this, and I think all fights should probably go down to a no contest. I guess, the flipside is fighters could potentially try an illegal blow if they're losing so bad to get the fight as a no contest rather than a loss. Difficult situation really with that, but absolutely a belt shouldn't be won via a disqualification it just feels wrong.
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December 24, 2021, 05:55:48 AM
Money punishment and no contest would be the best decision in Yan vs Aljo fight.
How long will UFC wait till they take Aljo’s belt away? Btw, McGregor was in same situation (did not accept fights to defend title) when he was a champ in two division. It took a year for UFC to make a decision to take one belt away. But was with Conor, with their star. I think UFC must send and ultimatum to Aljo. Will he be ready to fight in q1-2 2022 or not?
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December 24, 2021, 04:16:19 AM
Absolutely, 100 percent agree with the Yan prediction, I actually think the rules need to be changed, and a belt can't be won via a disqualification. Instead, potentially vacating the belt would be better, something just doesn't sit right with me that you can lose the entire fight, up until an illegal blow. Punish the person that made the illegal blow sure, but don't reward the guy that was getting beat all over the cage. Yan takes the belt back, and hopefully Aljo doesn't avoid the fight for too long for the sake of the fans.

That's a brainer, the Aljo Yan issue should have been resolved with a no-contest and a new fight. However, I am not sure that would punish Yan for his decision. Maybe some monetary cuts should have been implemented (for instance a cut from that fight pay for him, or lower a percentage of PPV for the next fight), but I am not sure that can be implemented. So if that is not an option and is regulated by the contract between the UFC and the fighter, how to punish Yan then? Him losing the title but Aljo not winning it? Maybe?
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December 23, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
In 125 I think Fig wins his belt back from Moreno.  In 155 Makhachev could be the champ late next year.  In 135 Yan gets his title back from Aljo, Dillashaw challenges and loses then it gets stale.
To be honest, I don't want either of them to lose. I quite like both Moreno, and Fig. Fig being so humble after his losses was nice to see, seemed genuinely happy for Moreno instead of just doing it to be a good sport. I think I do have a softer spot for Moreno though.

Absolutely, 100 percent agree with the Yan prediction, I actually think the rules need to be changed, and a belt can't be won via a disqualification. Instead, potentially vacating the belt would be better, something just doesn't sit right with me that you can lose the entire fight, up until an illegal blow. Punish the person that made the illegal blow sure, but don't reward the guy that was getting beat all over the cage. Yan takes the belt back, and hopefully Aljo doesn't avoid the fight for too long for the sake of the fans.

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December 23, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
I’ve already pm’d Stunna of Stake.  He said there’s some new stuff in the pipe line for the UFC betting market like live betting and hopefully championship futures.  
Oh man that would be amazing to have... I have been asking and pushing guys from Sportsbet for months to be pioneers and first to do it, but they say it's lot of work for live UFC betting.
I think having main and co-main events would be enough to have for start, and most of us have some delays during broadcast anyway so it's not that easy to abuse this feature like in other sports.


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December 23, 2021, 02:41:21 PM
^  Chikadze finishing Cub Swanson, I was like yeah whatever..  Swanson is getting close to being washed up as a fighter.  But Chikadze winning Edson Barboza who was somewhat looking good at 145?  And not just winning.  Chikadze finished him in the third round.  That was pretty convincing to me that he’s on another level.  I’m kinda thinking Chikadze could even make it look competitive vs Holloway...  Dunno.

Giga Chikadze did a great job of conditioning Swanson guard and controlling the whole fight that body kicks was really something, and 1st kick was just to condition Swanson to guard higher, and the 2nd Kick was towards the liver of Swanson, that was really a notable fight that really makes Chikadze notable as a great striker, and In the Edson Barboza fight that was a genius move from Chikadze and that Giga Kick he throws on Swanson, he also did it to Barboza and that kick really hurt Barboza that he is now worried about that kick because Giga Chikadze gives a faint when lifting his knee that Edson Barboza lift his knee again to heck the Giga kick he can surely read when Barboza is fainting or not, that is how good of a striker Giga Chikadze is,

In 135 Yan gets his title back from Aljo, Dillashaw challenges and loses then it gets stale.

I've heard that doctors don't allow Aljo to fight. They say he need a neck surgery, Aljo is doubting if he needs that surgery or should he continue training (he said that due to pain, he cant train for more than 1 round, then he need a rest and can continue). Aljo is just playing the time and enjoying champion status. He will avoid fight as long as possible. He will shout and cry that he wants to fight, but bad doctors does not allow him. In the end he will piss UFC bosses off and they will ask he to leave the belt. I think that in 135 Yan will fight Dillashaw for interim belt, and then Yan will get a real belt.

Aljamain Sterling is the first fighter in UFC history to win a championship by disqualification, that was really a Cringe way of getting your way to the belt, I think Petr Yan still has the belt if no one will win by Disqualification but that is how the rules go, if Aljamain Sterling is just pulling the UFC official's head then he might ask for it to force Sterling out of the belt if proven that all of his neck problems was just a hoax or an elaborate fraud.
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December 23, 2021, 09:52:38 AM
In 135 Yan gets his title back from Aljo, Dillashaw challenges and loses then it gets stale.

I've heard that doctors don't allow Aljo to fight. They say he need a neck surgery, Aljo is doubting if he needs that surgery or should he continue training (he said that due to pain, he cant train for more than 1 round, then he need a rest and can continue). Aljo is just playing the time and enjoying champion status. He will avoid fight as long as possible. He will shout and cry that he wants to fight, but bad doctors does not allow him. In the end he will piss UFC bosses off and they will ask he to leave the belt. I think that in 135 Yan will fight Dillashaw for interim belt, and then Yan will get a real belt.
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December 23, 2021, 09:24:06 AM
^  Yup.  The most stale weight class is 170 unless Chimaev gets a top 5 slot and challenges for the title.  Heavy weight is gonna be stale if Ngannou wins vs Gane.  145 and 185 have become somewhat stale too.  The most exciting divisions are 155, 125 then 135.

In 125 I think Fig wins his belt back from Moreno.  In 155 Makhachev could be the champ late next year.  In 135 Yan gets his title back from Aljo, Dillashaw challenges and loses then it gets stale.
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December 23, 2021, 08:43:00 AM
Based on the differences of opinion here, I say we need to see the fight happen. Makes the division a little bit more exciting for me.

 I'm finding currently some of the divisions are starting to become a little stale. Even heavyweight for me with Ngannou. I'm not sure why that's the case for me, I quite like Ngannou, and I've been critical of Gane in the past, but I might actually be interested in seeing that fight to see if we can shake it up a little.

Although, I think Usman is getting a little bit stale now, I actually fancied Burns against him, but we all know how that turned out.

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