Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 376. (Read 97129 times)

Yeah, I'm sure there are some deals where a fighter does not have to pay for food and board, however, most of those deals are made with not yet established fighters that live train, and eat at the facility. Also, yes, the UFC training facility does offer that, but not everyone is willing to relocate to Las Vegas.

As for sponsorships, yeah, there was much more money to be made before the rebook deal, and Rory was one of the more outspoken fighters that lost money when rebook set in.

I'm sorry, I may have relight the fire for Conor discussions. I've seen the photos, and he's definitely looking a lot bulkier around his chest, and shoulders. Not exactly sure what for, if he moves up it just seems like hes avoiding the 155 division due to the people that's beat him recently. Surely, if he's going to return he needs to prove he can beat them first.

Conor doesn't deserve a title fight, and I think it was Justin who made a comment about it recently that he would just pack things up, and throw his toys out of his pram. Obviously, I'm paraphrasing there, but I would have to agree. It would be absolutely disgraceful if Conor got another title shot, even if he fights one fight before getting the chance. In my opinion, he needs to go through the rankings again, he has dropped a considerable amount in a lot of peoples eyes.

Lost a lot of respect as a fighter, person, and he didn't really have much of the latter in the first place. If hes coming back he needs to do it the right way, and rediscover whatever hes lost in the last few years. I'm not ignoring that Conor will always be relevant due to his stature in UFC history, but he absolutely doesn't deserve to be anywhere near a title fight.

We havent spoken about Conor McGregor for a long time

Did you see his latest photos? The guy is seriously bulking. I just dont know what for? He is nothing to rely on welterweight. Nearly every top5 fighter there is dangerous for him. And his to small for middleweight.

I see rumors him fighting against Tony Ferguson. This can be an easy fight for him imho, plus Data White told that Conor need to have one fight before he will be given a chance for a title fight. Conor is like a smallest child in family, he always gets what he wants. He will win Tony, Tony will fight as I think he needs money, and Tony is still a popular fighter in UFC. They Conor will have a title fight. This scenario looks like two big $ $ in Danas eyes

The only fighter I can  think of who probably wasn't included in the tiers according to the business times is Conor Mcgregor. Yeah, he branched out, and invested elsewhere, but surely he was being paid more than 3 million dollars per fight. Unless, UFC does have some sort of limit based on a tier, and Conor was getting most of his money from sponsorships. I know for low level stuff unrelated to MMA the sponsorships can be high, so I can't imagine the figures they'd be offering for a broadcast watched by millions every week.

Now, after researching a bit, I think she does have more money to her name than it is stated on those sites(around $500k). I think they don't take into account sponsorships, and maybe some other things, because I came across very different numbers


and I believe they are closer to the truth. Knowing that Claudia Gadelha was paid $100,000 for only one fight, when she lost to Joanna Jedrzejczyk it's hard to believe that her lifetime earnings is only $500k. But, on the other hand, it wasn't an ordinary fight. You can't have many of them during your career. So, I absolutely agree with you regarding increasing the wages.

Yeah, I get that you make good points. Although, the released figures are likely speculation based on news sources, and probably aren't confirmed by the UFC. I would imagine that the UFC have it contractually tied up to talk about the exact figures. Though, we definitely do know that its on the low side. The only that's really confirmed is the bonuses on the night.

I'm not trying to make an excuse for Dana here, I'm 100 percent on the side of increasing the wages considering what they do. I'd probably be on the side of asking for reductions in Boxing, and other sports though. Although, to be fair UFC fighters are criminally underpaid if the reported figures are to be believed, when you compare them to other professional sports.

Though, she definitely has more money to her name, as well as other fighters since they also get sponsorships, and we know that the sponsorships pay fairly well. I wouldn't be too far taken back if the sponsorships are paying fighters better than the actual production.

Fighters spend a lot of money on training camps so that 10K is not enough to cover everything, and most of the money sponsors are giving is going directly to UFC and I think fighters are getting small share.
No fighters is allowed to sign any separate deal with any sponsor and that tells you everything you need to know.
Nobody wants to reveal exact earnings but we know that many complained about paychecks and UFC is not allowing them to create some union

^  UFC fighters get paid good money for wearing their Venum gear, that Crypto.com sweat gear and everybody gets paid by Monster energy drink.  That’s at least 10k USD right there per fight.


Askar Askarov could be champ!  That’s 4 Russians having the possibilty of getting the belt in their respective divisions.  Askarov is lined at 6.50 or something.  The rest of the guys aren’t that great imho...  Like Salikhov, this guy’s good and I have him to beat Michel Pereira on Jan 15 but he won’t get the chance to fight for the belt like the rest of those guys.  And Salikhov is 37 years old.

Oh and Belal Muhammad is not Russian.  He was born and grew up in Chicago.  The dude is basically white washed.  

Another difference I think is in managers fee.

Found some numbers in the internet:

The average professional boxer could make between $22000 and $37000 a year, according to Combat Sports Events. Shocking as it may sound, beginner boxers could earn less than $1000 per fight..

And if I google UFC fighter salary, I usually came across "10k minimum". If an average UFC fighter has 2-4 fights per year, then he is in a better situation than boxers.

In boxing we have WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO and The Ring. I never heard of any other organizations. In MMA there are 27 and lots of local organizations. I think chances to earn in MMA are higher than in boxing.


They receive also a free housing there, but they pay a % of their winnings for all that benefits. So if a fighters earn 10k then it might be cheap place to prepare for the fight, but if he earns 500k, then it is not

That's quite encouraging to be a UFC fighter. If one MMA fighter reading this, you'd be opening such possibilities.  But I agree, we've seen many MMAs as celebrities who I've seen on movies like Ateam or Expendables and some that I have not seen like thier docus on Netflix.  

I didn't know UFC will be the one that will spend on the health care of thier fighters. No wonder Police Officer Chris Daukaus quits his job and concentrate more on MMA.

Its been said UFC fighters can receive free training and free meals at the UFC Performance Institute in Las Vegas. In addition they're supposed to receive royalties for all of their signature items in the UFC store that are sold. Those are probably the two biggest changes in recent times that fly beneath the radar.

I would seriously be curious to know how much bellator MMA fighters profit from dude wipes sponsorships. There have been claims of 5 or 6 figure payouts but somehow I don't think dude wipes has the cash to throw six figures at MMA fighters in bellator.

Interestingly enough, Rory MacDonald was publicized as receiving a 6 figure sponsorship payout from dashcoin when he competed at bellator. That claim might have been legit. In that there could be some truth to claims of large sponsorship payouts outside the UFC if only on a limited basis.

I see you are comparing UFC and boxing earnings. Well, let me throw my two cents also.

First of all, boxing is more older sports than UFC, its fan base and popularity is much greater. Boxing matches manages to gain more attention, thus more sponsor money are involved.

Second, top UFC fighter earns a lot also, while average boxer gets his several thousands, same as an UFC fighter. However, I barely heard that boxers get 50k as a bonus for performance of the night or OK of the night.

Third, UFC fighters fight more often, while top boxers usually have 0-2 fights per year.

Fourth, I've noticed, that top UFC fighters usually get more sponsor contract than boxers.

Fifth, when a boxer retires, he can become a boxing trainer also (which they rarely do). But when a UFC fighter retires, he can become a boxing/wrestling/bjj/cardio/nutrition specialist

In addition, (I dont know how this is done is boxing), UFC covers all fighters treatment.

So being UFC aint that bad.

Sure, but you have to take into consideration the toll it takes on their bodies and their future health, and yes, not everyone will suffer from it, but the ones that do, their medical bills will eat up all of their earnings if they live in the US. Obviously, there is always an option of moving to a cheaper country, but now we are introducing variables and that's beside the point. The approximation of her earnings is probably the sum of her released earnings in her MMA career, but those earnings are before you calculate in tax, camp expenses, management and trainer fees, living costs in the US... Some training facilities do have some deals with fighters where they might offer reduced living costs and some fighters do have sponsors (albeit a lot less since the Rebook deal was implemented, and that's why there was much uproar for it), but we do not know what does deals were and how much it made an overall difference. But, if the half a mil estimate is based on the sum of her earnings, then I would be hard-pressed to believe she is coming out with a clean half a mil just based on the factors I listed earlier. So no, I stand by the notion that it's not all that much in the end.

And yes, I do agree that your lifestyle will have an effect on that, but we are taking the middle of the road here as an example, we are not looking into an option of her moving to a desolate part of Brazil and living in a small hut.

(This is just my opinion, not an argument, I fully respect your opinions)

Entirely, depends on your lifestyle, and how much you own at the time of earning that half a million. If you already have an house, and you've paid most or all of it off then half a million is more than enough to retire on at 30. Of course, you won't be living your life like a king, but for most people that would be enough if they continued with their current life style.

Despite UFC fighters not getting as much as boxers, and is often complained about they still get paid a lot of money by normal people's standards, and the fighters themselves despite complaining understand how much the bonuses are, and you'll often see them stating how life changing it has been since winning one.

Half a mill ain't that much, at least not for her to retire and not worry about the future. And when you switch careers in your thirties, after you have been doing it for more or less 15 years, that half a mil goes by fast. Not saying she hasn't earned anything, just saying it isn't something you can retire on by its own.

I don't really know why he went down but maybe because Paulo Costa buts in the Light Heavyweight division, and yes a Glover Teixeira fighting a young Magomed Ankalaev could be a good match, but I am just saying that I like Jiri Prochazka too, but not as much as Magomed Ankalaev, and now that Paulo Costa is in the division, I really never see him as a threat for these guys,


If you would look at each Division each division has a Russian fighter in it,

Flyweight Division - Tagir Ulanbekov, Askar Askarov, And the new Flyweight Khabib, that I forgot the name.

Lightweight Division - Islam Makhachev,

Welterweight Division - Belal Muhammad, Khamzat Chimaev, and Muslim Salikhov

Light Heavyweight Division - Magomed Ankalaev, and Nikita Krylov

Heavyweight Division - Shamil Abdurakhimov and Sergei Pavlovich

Many are from the Dagestan and have the same technique as the eagle Khabib Nurmagomenodov.

It depends on how you define "much". According to some credible sources the girl has made half a million US dollars during her fighting career:


Not many people can achieve that by the age of 33. And it's not like her mom and dad gave it to her, as it often happens with young rich people. She has earned it by hard work and endurance. I admire her.

He has had a long layoff. He hasn't fought since the Max fight and rightly so. You need a real recovery period after that war. Giga on the other hand has had 2 DOMINANT performances this year. We still need to see how Kattar does after that fight. The mental side could be taking a toll on him. Max not only broke his face but multiple UFC records that night.

^  Yeah but that’s not the point, the line on Ankalaev at 11.00 is good value.  And that line already went down.  I think it was double that around 21.00 - 23.00 before the sharps came in.  

And on Magny, he was talking months before.  I think even before Chimaev’s last match, I’m not sure.  And if ever that match up happens, man...  Magny is gonna get rag dolled by the Russian.  There should be a market for guessing how many Russian champs will there be by the end of 2022.  Lol.  I def think there will be at least two, Yan and Makhachev.

Edit:  Ankalaev...  Three! 

Maybe he's just busy, and it's been just a couple of days, and it is the holiday season people tend to just lump up and relax, and Neil Magny have said it, that he really wants to fight Khamzat Chimaev, but if not Neil Magny that is rank 8 then Belal Muhammad at Rank 5 is way even better, and with Vicente Luque, I haven't heard he that he wants to fight Khamzat but maybe I wasn't looking enough, but if a Vicente Luque fight would go through then Rank 4 will be even much better ranking.

Well I agree that Magomed Ankalaev is the best among those fighters but I would put Jiri Prochazka on the 2nd spot because I sure love his uniqueness when fighting, but Magomed Ankalaev is a beast, but maybe stake will surely open that market next year and we are in the midst of a holiday season so let's just wait.