Those HOUSTON judges were not watching the match even JOE ROGAN said so himself while calling the fights even so much saying they were looking at the floor
UFC 247: Joe Rogan and Dominick Cruz outraged at judge ‘literally not watching’ on live broadcast
UFC commentators Joe Rogan and Dominick Cruz were left outraged after noticing one of the judges was not even watching a fight at UFC 247 on Saturday night.
https://www.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/mixed-martial-arts/article/3049861/ufc-247-joe-rogan-and-dominick-cruz-outraged
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As far as the judging goes in this fight card the judging was awful and even Joe Rogan called out the judges during the broadcast about the judges not even watching the fight which is really odd and how on earth they scored those rounds is mind boggling.
This is not the first time we are seeing bad decisions but the specialty of this fight card is that there were many stupid decisions and so is the reason there are talks about how to score a fight is going on everywhere, the excuse we usually get is that the judges are boxing judges and if that is the case Dominick Reyes out struck Jon Jones clearly in the first three rounds in terms of volume and the significant strikes but the judges were ignorant and the controversy broke out because one judge gave Jon Jones 4 rounds which is impossible even if it was a close fight you will never get a score of 49-46 and as Dominick Reyes said it is disrespectful to score a close fight like that.other than the 3 judging panel what is the solution to rectify these problems as a win will change a fighters life and fortune so they need to sort this out soon.
I do hope that this time, Jones will give Reyes an immediate rematch because there is still hype around it plus the controversial decision. Majority really saw that somewhat Reyes won the fight and that we don't want to wait for another five years like Gustafsson. It was stylistically difficult for Jones because of Reyes movement, unfortunately he just gasses out, but clearly Reyes was ahead. And I will echo the sentiments here, the judging is really that bad.
It all depends upon how much damage both these fighters took, for the past few fights Jon Jones is also taking a lot of punishment and his opponents will be having massive surgery on their knees because of his oblique kicks and his kicking game and how much damage Reyes took in this fight is yet to be known, first let them get medically cleared and the rematch will be huge and the hype of the possibility of Jon Jones getting defeated will attract a huge crowd. For now, Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. It is very possible as it seems Dana likes him. But I can feel that Jon Jones will win in a rematch. That dirty champ will train harder. He's got the experience and is actually not that old.
Usually the UFC does not grand a rematch like that and if that was the case the fight against Alexander Gustafsson was also really close with opinions that Alexander Gustafsson won the fight but that rematch took 5 years and when that was done Jon Jones shut him down, Dominick Reyes was gassed out completely in the final two rounds and i am not expecting an immediate rematch as the winner of Corey Anderson and Jan Błachowicz might get the title shot against Jones.
I’ll agree with your analysis @7788bitcoin and I too don’t expect their rematch happening anytime soon, but at the same time I hope we don’t have to wait another five years to see their rematch. It’s also pertinent to note that Jones has given his consent for a rematch, but there’s no clarity yet when their rematch will take place.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trentreinsmith/2020/02/09/ufc-247-results-jon-jones-willing-to-rematch-dominick-reyes/#7ea99c624908
I do hope that this time, Jones will give Reyes an immediate rematch because there is still hype around it plus the controversial decision. Majority really saw that somewhat Reyes won the fight and that we don't want to wait for another five years like Gustafsson. It was stylistically difficult for Jones because of Reyes movement, unfortunately he just gasses out, but clearly Reyes was ahead. And I will echo the sentiments here, the judging is really that bad.
No one can argue that he is not past his prime but tired and KO'ed at any moment? Come on now. Did you see how Reyes punches slowed down and was just swinging in the later rounds? Did you see how many times Jones just kept moving forward after getting hit?
No one would claim that Jon Jones is past his prime days, he got some clean shots against Dominick Reyes where some of the fighters could have gone out cold and he still maintained the pressure and moved forward and that is the only case i see him won the judges over in the fight.Part of the judging criteria was cage control and I don't remember one criteria having more weight than the other.
Jon Jones controlled the center of the cage and the most confusing aspect is that there are two rules right now, the new rules are not followed by some of the athletic commission where they do not have a advantage in cage control and in Texas they followed the old rule.Although scoring is done round by round in the UFC, Reyes really fell short in rounds four and five. They call them championship rounds for a reason.
Jon Jones completely dominated the last two rounds and it was clear that Dominick Reyes was tired but scoring is done every round and not just the championship rounds.When all the emotions are gone, we should probably watch the fight again and without all the commentaries.
I watched the replay 2x (with commentaries) and round two, for me, was really won by Jones and the fourth and fifth.
I watched the fight a few times and i really do not see how Jon Jones won the first three rounds considering the amount of shots both landed and the only aspect i see him win is the cage control he had even after getting hit hard and the take down the had in the final two rounds he was not able to maintain that as Dominick Reyes was able to stand up and Jon Jones really struggled taking him down, 11 attempts and he was successful only twice shows the take down defense of Dominick Reyes.I watched the replay 2x (with commentaries) and round two, for me, was really won by Jones and the fourth and fifth.
As far as the judging goes in this fight card the judging was awful and even Joe Rogan called out the judges during the broadcast about the judges not even watching the fight which is really odd and how on earth they scored those rounds is mind boggling.
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I’ll agree with your analysis @7788bitcoin and I too don’t expect their rematch happening anytime soon, but at the same time I hope we don’t have to wait another five years to see their rematch. It’s also pertinent to note that Jones has given his consent for a rematch, but there’s no clarity yet when their rematch will take place.
Cheers mate. the rematch against Alexander Gustafsson was delayed because of the huge fight and hype against Daniel Cormier and then he went into trouble and was suspended striped off his title because of his road accident and then PED issues and it was a roller coaster ride in those period and so is the reason the rematch was delayed and i am expecting Dominick Reyes and it all depends upon Jones plan to move to Heavyweight division, a couple of good fights by Dominick Reyes and he will get his rematch against Jones. I’ll agree with your analysis @7788bitcoin and I too don’t expect their rematch happening anytime soon, but at the same time I hope we don’t have to wait another five years to see their rematch. It’s also pertinent to note that Jones has given his consent for a rematch, but there’s no clarity yet when their rematch will take place.
Reyes was robbed obv! Poor kid... He worked so hard.
Indeed, Even DC and other UFC fighters thought Reyes should win. I don't really know what the judges saw on Jones' performance which make them decide in favor on him. Maybe the consistent pressure he gave (like what joe rogan said)? If that's the case then do you really believe it weighs greater than Reyes' tons of sharp punches he threw? You decide. But for me, nah I don't think so. It was prolly rigged. But it's all done now... Reyes fans and some of Jones' fans are prolly gonna back Adesanya now (I'm sorta a Jones fan but had to boo him. He doesn't have the right to talk as if he's still the champ. IMHO).
Can't wait for him to trash Jones again in his next interview. 3. Dana White and the UFC organization. I can feel they like Dominick Reyes. They are probably looking Dominick Reyes as the future of the light heavyweight division. As experienced they are, they should realized that an immediate rematch might bring disaster on Reyes. So a rematch is not looking good here for their young investment in Reyes.
Dana White actually went public in the post-fight interview and said that Dominick Reyes is the future of the UFC LHW division. I also see that a quick rematch would end up Reyes getting knocked out. He is still 30 years old, maybe in two years time if Jones is still the defending champ.If Reyes was awarded that fight, it's going to be a different story. An immediate rematch will take place.
I have seen a crazy video on Youtube and that is Saudi Arabia has offered $100 Million Dollar for Khabib Nurmagomedov to fight Connor McGregor or Floyd Mayweather on a fight, I know that this could be a different story but I am shocked that Saudis would want to see a fight and is offering something Million Dollar Money to see this fight, I know that the UFC 249 is on April Versus Nurmagomedov and Ferguson but I really can't wait to see that in action, plus many news on the video about the fight of Jon Jones VS Dominick Reyes, plus Masvidal is getting personal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD45aXJ2b6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD45aXJ2b6Y
Khabib already answered. He does not want to fight Conor for any price. I reckon Conor should prove his greatness again before he can make Khabib look at him hehehe. I am the most loyal Conor fan, however, the fight versus Cowboy is nothing to make him rematch Khabib.
Well, in a recent interview when asked about the rematch with Conor for 100 million dollars, Khabib laughed and said:
“Why do I need that kind of money. There are so many organizations for example, there is not only football for the blind, there are Sambo and other sports. Let [UFC] give it to them, if they don’t know what to do with the money. But giving me $100 million for me to beat up that idiot again? I don’t think it’s rational.”
Source https://www.essentiallysports.com/ufc-khabib-nurmagomedov-denies-to-fight-conor-mcgregor-even-for-100-million/
That sounded like Khabib alright! I haven't seen his reply yet to this 100 million dollar just by fighting Conor, In my opinion I would like to see another Khabib and Conor fight but I also think that will surely wait and Conor needs to beef up more and proved in his another fight that he is really ready for a rematch.
And on Jones VS Reyes fight, Congrats to Jones for winning it but Dominick Reyes did a great job, Jon Jones does have a hard time taking down Reyes that is why Jones said he has his respect, And Reyes had proven Jones what he is made of, Reyes says that he will get better, and proved that he is the real deal.
For now, Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. It is very possible as it seems Dana likes him. But I can feel that Jon Jones will win in a rematch. That dirty champ will train harder. He's got the experience and is actually not that old.
Usually the UFC does not grand a rematch like that and if that was the case the fight against Alexander Gustafsson was also really close with opinions that Alexander Gustafsson won the fight but that rematch took 5 years and when that was done Jon Jones shut him down, Dominick Reyes was gassed out completely in the final two rounds and i am not expecting an immediate rematch as the winner of Corey Anderson and Jan Błachowicz might get the title shot against Jones.
I’ll agree with your analysis @7788bitcoin and I too don’t expect their rematch happening anytime soon, but at the same time I hope we don’t have to wait another five years to see their rematch. It’s also pertinent to note that Jones has given his consent for a rematch, but there’s no clarity yet when their rematch will take place.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trentreinsmith/2020/02/09/ufc-247-results-jon-jones-willing-to-rematch-dominick-reyes/#7ea99c624908
1. Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. Though it was still too early, the guy haven't reviewed the fight yet and is still in an emotional stage. His team might tell him to rescind his intentions. Reyes is the younger fighter while Jones is starting to age.
2. There is no question as to Jon Jones wanted the rematch too. He is a great fighter, smart, athletic and well experienced from the best. He is the one catching time here. I believe an immediate rematch will show Jones dominating Reyes.
3. Dana White and the UFC organization. I can feel they like Dominick Reyes. They are probably looking Dominick Reyes as the future of the light heavyweight division. As experienced they are, they should realized that an immediate rematch might bring disaster on Reyes. So a rematch is not looking good here for their young investment in Reyes.
For now, Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. It is very possible as it seems Dana likes him. But I can feel that Jon Jones will win in a rematch. That dirty champ will train harder. He's got the experience and is actually not that old.
Usually the UFC does not grand a rematch like that and if that was the case the fight against Alexander Gustafsson was also really close with opinions that Alexander Gustafsson won the fight but that rematch took 5 years and when that was done Jon Jones shut him down, Dominick Reyes was gassed out completely in the final two rounds and i am not expecting an immediate rematch as the winner of Corey Anderson and Jan Błachowicz might get the title shot against Jones.
I’ll agree with your analysis @7788bitcoin and I too don’t expect their rematch happening anytime soon, but at the same time I hope we don’t have to wait another five years to see their rematch. It’s also pertinent to note that Jones has given his consent for a rematch, but there’s no clarity yet when their rematch will take place.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/trentreinsmith/2020/02/09/ufc-247-results-jon-jones-willing-to-rematch-dominick-reyes/#7ea99c624908
For now, Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. It is very possible as it seems Dana likes him. But I can feel that Jon Jones will win in a rematch. That dirty champ will train harder. He's got the experience and is actually not that old.
Usually the UFC does not grand a rematch like that and if that was the case the fight against Alexander Gustafsson was also really close with opinions that Alexander Gustafsson won the fight but that rematch took 5 years and when that was done Jon Jones shut him down, Dominick Reyes was gassed out completely in the final two rounds and i am not expecting an immediate rematch as the winner of Corey Anderson and Jan Błachowicz might get the title shot against Jones.
~ We saw a tired JJ that could get KO'ed from Reyes in any moment, we saw him that he is no longer in his prime for years now ~
No one can argue that he is not past his prime but tired and KO'ed at any moment? Come on now. Did you see how Reyes punches slowed down and was just swinging in the later rounds? Did you see how many times Jones just kept moving forward after getting hit?~ Maybe the consistent pressure he gave (like what joe rogan said)? If that's the case then do you really believe it weighs greater than Reyes' tons of sharp punches he threw? You decide. But for me, nah I don't think so.
Part of the judging criteria was cage control and I don't remember one criteria having more weight than the other. Although scoring is done round by round in the UFC, Reyes really fell short in rounds four and five. They call them championship rounds for a reason.
When all the emotions are gone, we should probably watch the fight again and without all the commentaries.
I watched the replay 2x (with commentaries) and round two, for me, was really won by Jones and the fourth and fifth.
Or least give Dom a shot at Jones again, unless Jones avoid it by going up to heavyweight.
Hahaha I think that would be a worse decision for him. Even if it would be his last resort in order to avoid facing Reyes, then he should not go up to HW division (if he is wise enough). Why? Because that's a whole different thing. That's the place of "one shot, one kill" and I doubt he can survive it; even thinking his "eye poking technique" will not work out as well .Much better if he will just face Reyes once again and prove to us that he really deserve the belt he is wearing for a long time.
Terrible judges!
They ruined several matches including main event.
In my account Reyes won or it was atleast a draw.
They ruined several matches including main event.
In my account Reyes won or it was atleast a draw.
I reckon Jon Jones now has lost 2 fights in a row hehehe. Also, agreed! This is very embarassing for the sport.
What the f**k did these judges are watching?
I know it was a close one, but majority saw Dom winning the fight, I mean it was a clear day robbery to be honest. I think UFC should seriously look at this judges. Or least give Dom a shot at Jones again, unless Jones avoid it by going up to heavyweight.
I know it was a close one, but majority saw Dom winning the fight, I mean it was a clear day robbery to be honest. I think UFC should seriously look at this judges. Or least give Dom a shot at Jones again, unless Jones avoid it by going up to heavyweight.
one judge (Joe Solis) scored the bout 4 to 1 to Jon Jones which is crazy.
Whether he was paid to give that bullsh*t 4-1 decision or not, he must be banned because he is obviously biased. For now, Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. It is very possible as it seems Dana likes him. But I can feel that Jon Jones will win in a rematch. That dirty champ will train harder. He's got the experience and is actually not that old.
Of course, a robbery could save him once again lol. But kidding aside, I think there's one thing Reyes could do to win and that is knocking out Jones at all cost since we already saw that this fight can't be done in a decision 
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Terrible judges!
They ruined several matches including main event.
In my account Reyes won or it was atleast a draw.
They ruined several matches including main event.
In my account Reyes won or it was atleast a draw.
Reyes was robbed obv! Poor kid... He worked so hard.
Indeed, Even DC and other UFC fighters thought Reyes should win. I don't really know what the judges saw on Jones' performance which make them decide in favor on him. Maybe the consistent pressure he gave (like what joe rogan said)? If that's the case then do you really believe it weighs greater than Reyes' tons of sharp punches he threw? You decide. But for me, nah I don't think so. 
. one judge (Joe Solis) scored the bout 4 to 1 to Jon Jones which is crazy.Of all the personalities on tv, DC's opinion will matter last as he is an arch enemy of Jon Jones. But yeah, all people I heard said Dominick Reyes was robbed. These people are of course mma fanatics and not just luring casuals. That 49-46 score was a disgrace and that person should be banned or suspended from judging mma fights again.
For now, Dominick Reyes wanted an immediate rematch. It is very possible as it seems Dana likes him. But I can feel that Jon Jones will win in a rematch. That dirty champ will train harder. He's got the experience and is actually not that old.
Reyes was robbed obv! Poor kid... He worked so hard.
Indeed, Even DC and other UFC fighters thought Reyes should win. I don't really know what the judges saw on Jones' performance which make them decide in favor on him. Maybe the consistent pressure he gave (like what joe rogan said)? If that's the case then do you really believe it weighs greater than Reyes' tons of sharp punches he threw? You decide. But for me, nah I don't think so. . one judge (Joe Solis) scored the bout 4 to 1 to Jon Jones which is crazy. Jump to: