Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 641. (Read 96748 times)

Pettis is coming off from a huge victory over Stephen Thompson and he is confident going into this bout again Nate Diaz who is coming after a long lay off and ring rust is a real thing, but he is a durable fighter and we might see a war as both are stand up fighers.


Jones Jones moving up in heavyweight to take the belt from Cormier will be a much bigger fight that Cormier coming down to light heavy weight because we have already seen two fights and we all know the result. Lesnar will not be back until he gets any exception from USADA .

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Bantamweight in MMA is 57 to 61kg and if you look carefully at her records in Kickboxing and Muay Thai https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Shevchenko_(fighter)
 you can see she only fought in the -57kg weight class until 2009. After that she only fought in -60kg and -63.5kg classes. That is above the MMA flyweight class which is 53 to 57kg... So her natural weight class since 2009 was clearly bantamweight (and even featherweight) class and not flyweight. So the speculations saying she dropped to flyweight because she couldn't beat Nunes are not unfounded.

The good stuff!  Enjoy the vids!  And be sure to make your bets before you watch Countdown and Inside the Octagon.  Those vids could affect your bets...  But be sure to watch the Free Fight ones and more past fights if you could find them.  They could help.

Enjoy! 

UFC 241:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfVXdC44jlU

UFC 241:  Inside the Octagon - Cormier vs Miocic 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akeWhGX9EoM

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Cormier vs Miocic 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdos_SUKtQk

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Pettis vs Thompson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdP44UT_SjA

UFC 241:  Free Fight - Diaz vs Mcgregor 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDFmYiK-5QI

You can disagree all you want. Lets take the women's MMA, you are telling all the MMA matches before joining UFC, have you watched any Flyweight weight fights in any of those competitions, you will not find because there was no flyweight division for women's MMA but there was a Bantamweight division in every organization and even UFC opened the flyweight division recently, if there is no flyweight division where do you think she will fight, do you know that even when she was fighting in Bantamweight division in MMA she was fighting in her natural weight class of 57 to 60 Kg in Mua Thai and Kick Boxing, hope you are aware that 60 KG is not Bantamweight. So i hope the Russian urban legend is clear  .

I'm having a doubt that DIaz can pull this off because it's very hard to be in good shape and fighting mindset once again. I mean, we all knew that Diaz was gone for almost 3 years and that's not a joke. I think he should triple his effort if he really want to beat Pettis.
HW means Heavyweight? Why that division? Jones is on the Light Heavyweight, maybe it's just a mistake . Anyway, DC vs Bones is not so special already, much better would be DC against Lesnar! What do you guys think?

I have to disagree with you. According to her records, she was fighting in the bantamweight division before coming to the UFC. She was fighting in the bantamweight class since 2010 at least, so 5years before joining UFC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentina_Shevchenko_(fighter)
So it must be some kind of russian urban legends I guess. I hope Amanda Nunes will accept to go down to flyweight class to try to take her belt and win the championship of a 3rd division.  

You have to understand that Valentina Shevchenko was a legit 125 pound fighter and she was fighting all her Muay Thai and Kickboxing in 125 pound weight category and when she came to the UFC they did not have a 125 pound division and so she was forced to move up in weight and fight in 135 pound division and once they opened the division there is no one who could beat her.

Losing weight will also depreciate your power to withstand for long fights. So it will be good for her to maintain that weight. Enough work outs is definitely good in order to win for her opponent, and that's pretty sure effective instead of cutting off some body mass.

It is a good fight card for UFC 241, the most anticipated fight is the rematch between Daniel Cormier and Stipe Miocic and i hope it will be a competitive one than the first one but the return of Nate Diaz will be a much better fight as he is facing Anthony Pettis and this fight will have an implication on the third fight with Conor McGregor as it would be yet another big fight and the young Paulo Costa have a big task ahead of him in the form of Yoel Romero, if he could win the fight he will be the next title contender.

In fact I suspect Shevchenko to have gone down to flyweight category because she saw it would be too difficult to beat Amanda Nunes and take her bantamweight belt. So she preferred to go down to flyweight to win the title...

^  Yup.  And looking at Nunes these days...  She looks like she could eat a fly weight, not move down to their weight class.  Lolol.

Edit:  Finally the good stuff! 

There is no real contender for both Valentina Shevchenko and Amanda Nunes, even when they fought each other when Valentina Shevchenko was fighting above his weight class at 135 pounds the fights were really close the first time and the second one was a split decision and she is the only person who stood with Nunes for 8 rounds which is incredible considering how she demolished everyone after that. We need to see the third fight, either Valentina Shevchenko will move up to challenge Nunes for her championship or Nunes comes down to 125 which is really hard, either way we need to see them fight for the third time.

Hey guys.

I've never been on any UFC event IRL. Have any one in this topic visited at least any event ? How long does is usually lasts ?
UFC Fight Night 156 - 13 fight, 7 of them are by decision. That is 7*3*3=63 minutes of fighting. Plus rest time, time when fighters go from locker room to octagon.

I've been on local boxing events (fight night) and K1 Max Grand Pries, and they are usually from 20:00 to 01:00 

It was a complete 5 rounds fight against Liz Carmouche so I don't know how it works for fights outside the U.S but Shevchenko could get a medical suspension for several months. Nunes is a batamweight fighter she went up to featherweight category few months ago to fight against Cris Cyborg for the featherweight title, so I don't think she will be very delighted to cut her weight for going down to flyweights category now.

Amanda's toughest opponent is the weight cut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQLgbVjxGfM
It would not be healthy for her to shred more to reach 125 lbs. It will greatly affect her power and might lose to someone who is in her natural weight class.

Can Amanda Nunes cut his weight to 125 pounds and challenge Valentina Shevchenko for the flyweight championship? I reckon Valentina should be given a challenge, women's flyweight is very boring.

I've been asking FJ and Nitrogen for some prop betting for the UFC to squeeze some more available lines in that could give us more decent odds.

I think if you guys ask for it too maybe they'll listen. 

No problem bro, All of us here definitely had something in our daily life so no need to worry so much cause we truly understand, I really like the result of each fight well, even if it's not so profitable I surely take every win I can get,



Well, even if it's not that profitable I can not bet on anything else that I think I don't know so much, I only like the main card matches and definitely even if there is less opportunity for this I will just take it, and naturally, Shevchenko won so I have no regret at all.

Complete UFC on ESPN+ 14 results (aka UFC Fight Night: Shevchenko vs. Carmouche 2 aka UFC Fight Night 156)

Saturday, August 10, 2019
UFC on ESPN+ 14 took place Saturday, August 10th, from the Antel Arena in Montevideo, Uruguay. The event was headlined by a women's flyweight title and aired exclusively on ESPN and ESPN+.

Main Card (Live on ESPN+, 8:00 PM EST)

-Valentina Shevchenko (c) defeated Liz Carmouche by Unanimous Decision (50-45, 50-45, 50-45)
-Vicente Luque defeated Mike Perry by Split Decision (28-29, 29-28, 29-28)
-Luiz Eduardo Garagorri defeated Humberto Bandenay by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-27)
-Volkan Oezdemir defeated Ilir Latifi by KO (Punches, Round 2, 4:35)
-Rodolfo Vieira defeated Oskar Piechota by Submission (Arm Triangle, Round 2, 4:26)
-Enrique Barzola defeated Bobby Moffett by Split Decision (28-29, 30-27, 29-28)
 
Preliminary Card (Live on ESPN, 5:00 PM EST)

-Gilbert Burns defeated Alexey Kunchenko by Unanimous Decision (29-28, 29-28, 29-28)
-Ciryl Gane defeated Raphael Pessoa Nunes by Submission (Arm Triangle, Round 1, 4:15)
-Marina Rodriguez defeated Tecia Torres by Unanimous Decision (30-27, 30-27, 30-26)
-Rogerio Bontorin defeated Raulian Paiva by TKO (Doctor Stoppage, Round 1, 2:56)
-Chris Gutierrez defeated Geraldo de Freitas by Split Decision (29-28, 27-30, 29-28)
-Rodrigo Vargas defeated Alex da Silva Coelha by Unanimous Decision
-Veronica Macedo defeated Polyana Viana by Submission (Armbar, Round 1, 1:09)

https://www.mixedmartialarts.com/editorial/complete-ufc-on-espn-14-results:896fd777-705c-4749-8c0c-381a21a8ce4d

69 sec win for my girl Venezuelan VERONICA MACEDO 
https://twitter.com/ufc/status/1160298843788865536

Maybe it was this ' good luck' kiss before that earned her this win