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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 10, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
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Quote from: YuginKadoya on August 09, 2019, 06:30:14 AM
Well I am always betting on the main card so in the Woman Flyweight Division my bet is on Valentina Shevchenko for the win for this, I see that she got the determination to win this, And the style of his approach will be pretty powerful against Liz Carmouche, I guess the age may not have a big problem or can get them an Advantage or Disadvantage because of it, Well both fighters can really take the win but I am betting on Shevchenko because I see a lot of potential towards her,
I don't think it is a very profitable bet to gamble on this fight, and specially on Shevchenko. Odds are very low, because she's ultra favorite. Less than 1.1 for her versus 7 or even 8 for Liz Carmouche...
It won't be a very hot fight.

https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/valentina-shevchenko-v-liz-carmouche/winner
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 10, 2019, 06:28:26 AM
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Tha ka for the back up guys...  I was a busy for a couple of days and a little bit tired.  And the coming event isn't really stacked or anything.

Here are the weigh in results.

Valentina Shevchenko (124.5) vs Liz Carmouche (125)
Vicente Luque (171) vs Mike Perry (170.5)
Humberto Bandenay (146) vs Luiz Eduardo Garagorri (145.5)
Ilir Latifi (204.5) vs Volkan Oezdemir (205.5)
Oskar Piechota (185) vs Rodolfo Vieira (185.5)
Enrique Barzola (145) vs Bobby Moffett (146)
Cyril Gane (241) vs Raphael Pessoa (261)
Gilbert Burns (171) vs Aleksei Kunchenko (170)
Marina Rodriguez (115.5) vs Tecia Torres (115)
Rogerio Bontorin (125.5) vs Raulian Paiva (125.5)
Geraldo de Freitas (135) vs Chris Gutierrez (156)
Alex da Silva (155.5) vs Rodrigo Vargas (156)
Veronica Macedo (125.5) vs Polyana Viana (126)

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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 09, 2019, 06:30:14 AM
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I think the First Page should get an update by tokeweed for the upcoming Fight Night 156 but anyways he might be busy with other things and as for the upcoming fight on August 10 on (UTC−03:00 or UTC−04:00) And August 11 for (UTC−08:00) Standard Time if the Time zone is correct I guess, But I will post the upcoming fights with their stats for Fight Night 156 before we can get to UFC 241.

Main Card



Preliminary Card



Well I am always betting on the main card so in the Woman Flyweight Division my bet is on Valentina Shevchenko for the win for this, I see that she got the determination to win this, And the style of his approach will be pretty powerful against Liz Carmouche, I guess the age may not have a big problem or can get them an Advantage or Disadvantage because of it, Well both fighters can really take the win but I am betting on Shevchenko because I see a lot of potential towards her,

And for the Welterweight Co-main, I guess the fight will be in favor with Vicente Luque I think he got a slight advantage over Mike Perry because of the Reach and slight height but I can not say for sure but I think Luque can give perry a devastation of punches and even go with the submission if he likes to, Well that is my thought and I am not looking on their popularity but their fast performance,

But anyway if you look on the Preliminary Card below there are one fight that is canceled because of Taila Santos wrist injury so that is all and good luck to all bettors.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 09, 2019, 02:52:40 AM
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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 08, 2019, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: peter0425 on August 08, 2019, 05:03:56 PM
Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 08, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
Yes Conor needs to add something else in his arsenal. He is excellent in standup fighting and he will be more viscous if he can add wrestling, grappling in his list of expertise. I see picture of Conor practicing BJJ after his fight with Diaz which is good if he wan'ts to be good at it. It's just like boxing, your opponent will watch your videos over and over again to see your weakness and focus on that weakness. Fighters need to evolve and change something in their fighting style in each fight.
Can we teach old dogs new trick? Even in the Khabib fight Conor knows that he will be taken down by, but his training is not enough to offset Khabib's ground game. I'm sure he train enough for that but when you are hit in the face, all those strategies and careful planning are put out into the window as you just want to go toe-to-toe with your opponents.
Well I am one of those who doesn't believe in that idiomatic expression that "You can't teach an old dog new tricks", I refuse to believe in that because I myself is in the mid of 40's and I am still willing to learn, it's just a matter of ones eagerness to learn. Conor can learn but he can't learn and be #1 overnight because he learned a few tricks, but yet he learned. After learning, next question is application, how can it be applied or can he apply it right away.
That is the best question, he rely so much with his left that he think he can over power everyone. I think we need to factor as well his ego here, the biggest ego in UFC and wanting to learn, that could be the first.

@bbc.reporter - Yup, Khabib has the best ground game, I think a few notch above GSP during his prime, and it's really hard to train for that. Whiskey business or not, he can't really win against Khabib and it's all for the money now.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 08, 2019, 09:46:05 PM
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@peter0425. No one's training can offset Khabib's ground game hehehe. He is the best wrestler in all of MMA. However, what Conor did not do was implement his own style on Khabib. I heard that he was also very busy in his whiskey business and left the formulation of strategy fully on John Kavanagh, which was not normal for Conor.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 08, 2019, 05:31:46 PM
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Quote from: peter0425 on August 08, 2019, 05:03:56 PM
Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 08, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
Yes Conor needs to add something else in his arsenal. He is excellent in standup fighting and he will be more viscous if he can add wrestling, grappling in his list of expertise. I see picture of Conor practicing BJJ after his fight with Diaz which is good if he wan'ts to be good at it. It's just like boxing, your opponent will watch your videos over and over again to see your weakness and focus on that weakness. Fighters need to evolve and change something in their fighting style in each fight.
Can we teach old dogs new trick? Even in the Khabib fight Conor knows that he will be taken down by, but his training is not enough to offset Khabib's ground game. I'm sure he train enough for that but when you are hit in the face, all those strategies and careful planning are put out into the window as you just want to go toe-to-toe with your opponents.
Well I am one of those who doesn't believe in that idiomatic expression that "You can't teach an old dog new tricks", I refuse to believe in that because I myself is in the mid of 40's and I am still willing to learn, it's just a matter of ones eagerness to learn. Conor can learn but he can't learn and be #1 overnight because he learned a few tricks, but yet he learned. After learning, next question is application, how can it be applied or can he apply it right away.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 08, 2019, 05:03:56 PM
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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on August 08, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
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Conor should also practice a million times the flying knee to the head to try to pull a Masvidal on those eventual standup->wrestling->standup transitions. There isn't much he can do, but it's not 100% impossible. Whoever bets on a Conor win on the next fight will become rich because he will be a massive underdog, but those things can happen.
Yes Conor needs to add something else in his arsenal. He is excellent in standup fighting and he will be more viscous if he can add wrestling, grappling in his list of expertise. I see picture of Conor practicing BJJ after his fight with Diaz which is good if he wan'ts to be good at it. It's just like boxing, your opponent will watch your videos over and over again to see your weakness and focus on that weakness. Fighters need to evolve and change something in their fighting style in each fight.
Can we teach old dogs new trick? Even in the Khabib fight Conor knows that he will be taken down by, but his training is not enough to offset Khabib's ground game. I'm sure he train enough for that but when you are hit in the face, all those strategies and careful planning are put out into the window as you just want to go toe-to-toe with your opponents.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 08, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
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Conor should also practice a million times the flying knee to the head to try to pull a Masvidal on those eventual standup->wrestling->standup transitions. There isn't much he can do, but it's not 100% impossible. Whoever bets on a Conor win on the next fight will become rich because he will be a massive underdog, but those things can happen.
Yes Conor needs to add something else in his arsenal. He is excellent in standup fighting and he will be more viscous if he can add wrestling, grappling in his list of expertise. I see picture of Conor practicing BJJ after his fight with Diaz which is good if he wan'ts to be good at it. It's just like boxing, your opponent will watch your videos over and over again to see your weakness and focus on that weakness. Fighters need to evolve and change something in their fighting style in each fight.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 08, 2019, 01:20:27 PM
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UFC Fight Night: Shevchenko vs Carmouche 2
Aug 10, 2019
Antel Arena, Montevideo, Uruguay


Main Card

Code:
Women’s Flyweight Championship:
Valentina Shevchenko   (17-3,  #1 ranked women’s flyweight) vs Liz Carmouche   (13-6, #23 ranked women’s flyweight)

Welterweights:
Vicente Luque    (16-6-1, #14 ranked welterweight) vs Mike Perry   (13-4, #25 ranked welterweight)

Featherweights:
Luiz Garagorri   (11-0) vs Humberto Bandenay   (14-6, 1 NC, #37 ranked featherweight)

Light Heavyweights:
Volkan Oezdemir  (15-4, #13 ranked light heavyweight) vs Ilir Latifi  (14-6, 1 NC, #11 ranked light heavyweight)

Middleweights:
Rodolfo Vieira   (5-0) vs Oskar Piechota   (11-1-1, #34 ranked middleweight)

Featherweights:
Enrique Barzola   (15-4-1, #32 ranked featherweight) vs Bobby Moffett   (14-4, #25 ranked featherweight)


Prelims

Code:
Heavyweights:
Ciryl Gane   (2-0) vs Raphael Pessoa  (9-0)

Women’s Strawweights:
Tecia Torres   (10-4, #13 ranked women’s strawweight) vs Marina Rodriguez  (11-0-1, #27 ranked women’s strawweight)

Flyweights:
Rogerio Bontorin    (15-1, 1 NC, #10 ranked flyweight) vs Raulian Paiva  (18-2, #13 ranked flyweight)

Bantamweights:
Geraldo de Freitas Jr   (12-4, #55 ranked bantamweight) vs Chris Gutierrez   (13-4, 1 NC, #55 ranked bantamweight)

Women’s Flyweights:
Ariane Carnelossi   (12-1) vs TBA

Lightweights:
Rodrigo Vargas  (10-2) vs Alex da Silva   (20-2, #74 ranked lightweight)

Welterweights:
Gilbert Burns   (15-3, #28 ranked welterweight) vs Alexey Kunchenko   (20-0, #21 ranked welterweight)

Women’s Flyweights:
Veronica Macedo   (5-3-1, #32 ranked women’s flyweight) vs Polyana Viana   (10-3, #22 ranked women’s flyweight)

https://thesportsdaily.com/2019/08/05/ufc-fight-night-shevchenko-vs-carmouche-2-fight-card-fox11/


I am not really excited about his fight. Other than Shevchenko, I have not even watched or heard of the rest despite their impressive looking records. This might turn out to be a flop in terms of PPV.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 10:54:39 PM
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Quote from: eaLiTy on August 03, 2019, 11:38:03 PM
Quote from: bbc.reporter on July 31, 2019, 09:21:28 PM
Dana might be creating a new storyboard for his pet Conor's comeback to be a champion again.

My prediction, Conor versus Jorge Masvidal will fight for the championship of a newly created 165 pound weight division on 2020.
That is a realistic possibility to make a 165 pound division and try to make Conor McGregor three weight division champion and Jorge Masvidal is a good pick, i know that uncle Dana is against the new division even though every fighter who is switching from 155 pounds to 170 pounds because they do not have any other option because of weight cutting needs a new division and it will be another stacked division if they open the 165 pound division as majority of the top fighters are in Lightweight and Welterweight division.

I reckon Dana is only against a 165 pound division unless the timing is right. 2020 might be the year. Let Khabib win versus Dustin Poirier, make Conor a champion in another division on 2020 and let them meet again in a super fight.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 12:30:56 PM
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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019


MAIN CARD:
Daniel Cormier vs. Stipe Miocic
Anthony Pettis vs. Nate Diaz




I am just excited with the main card and the rematch over Daniel Cormier VS Stipe Miocic will surely have a big impact and I think if Cormier would win this again all question against him winning this with luck will truely be lift, Well judging because of his physique and weight pretty sure many think that his just a fat man without any power at all and the kick that slip was pretty laughable, (who here does not laugh watching it? ) But I guess if Corrmier would win this again I guess there is no doubt about his first win,

But I am most pretty excited with the Anthony Pettis VS Nate Diaz fight, This might be the fight that most people would surely watch, I can not tell for now if who might win but I am stil waiting for something first before addressing my call.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 11:06:55 AM
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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 06, 2019, 02:41:57 AM
I am not really sure why Nate chose to fight Anthony instead of a trilogy with Conor. He would have made more money with that. But this Diaz vs. Pettis isn't bad at all. I expect more trash talking and drama show as we get closer to the fight.
I don't know, maybe it is about the pride. They've been going back and forth in social media before so they decided it's about time to settle it on the octagon.


Quote from: tokeweed on August 06, 2019, 06:17:41 AM
I got Miocic.  He prolly figured something out about Cormier, that's why he was practically demanding an immediate rematch.  And Diaz cos he's badass.  Lol.
Every time Nate fights, always expect entertainment. He is definitely a tough one and he's only been stopped once (against Thompson) in his long career.

I don't know about Miocic winning the fight. I hope he asked tips from Jon Jones.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 10:00:46 AM
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Quote from: Saint-loup on August 06, 2019, 05:04:00 AM
Quote from: TopTort777 on August 06, 2019, 02:35:49 AM
Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019

MAIN CARD:
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa

Havent seen this guy for a long time. His last fight was year ago and now he faces 11-0 bjj black belt, that wins most of his fight with TKO Cheesy
This fight definitely will take a fight of the night (if not only Stipe takes belt from DC).
What do you mean? You think it could be an easy bet? I have to admit I don't know these guys.
Odds for Yoel Romero are at 1.5 while odds for Paulo Costa are at 2.5 according to oddschecker.
1.5 or 1.6 can be interesting if it's a rather sure bet.
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/yoel-romero-v-paulo-costa/winner

I meant that after a year without fights Romero will face a very tough and dangerous opponent. I would not make a bet on this fight, because it is going to be very close.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 06:17:41 AM
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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019


MAIN CARD:
Daniel Cormier vs. Stipe Miocic
Anthony Pettis vs. Nate Diaz
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa
Derek Brunson vs. Ian Heinisch

PRELIMINARY:
Gabriel Benitez VS Sodiq Yusuff
Devonte Smith VS John Makdessi
Raphael Assuncao VS Cory Sandhagen
Poliana Botelho VS Maryna Moroz
Manny Bermudez VS Casey Kenney
Christos Giagos VS Drakkar Klose
Hannah Cifers VS Jodie Esquibel
Kyung Ho Kang VS Brandon Davis
Sabina Mazo VS Shana Dobson


I am pretty sure the Comier-Miocic II will be a good one but I am more excited with the Diaz-Pettis fight. i can't wait to see these two cocky fighters go at it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXhKX1eIFo



Yup...  I wish it were that already.  I don't really care much about Shev vs Carmouche and I don't really know the rest of the card.

I got Miocic.  He prolly figured something out about Cormier, that's why he was practically demanding an immediate rematch.  And Diaz cos he's badass.  Lol.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 05:04:00 AM
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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 06, 2019, 02:35:49 AM
Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019

MAIN CARD:
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa

Havent seen this guy for a long time. His last fight was year ago and now he faces 11-0 bjj black belt, that wins most of his fight with TKO Cheesy
This fight definitely will take a fight of the night (if not only Stipe takes belt from DC).
What do you mean? You think it could be an easy bet? I have to admit I don't know these guys.
Odds for Yoel Romero are at 1.5 while odds for Paulo Costa are at 2.5 according to oddschecker.
1.5 or 1.6 can be interesting if it's a rather sure bet.
https://www.oddschecker.com/ufc-mma/yoel-romero-v-paulo-costa/winner
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 02:41:57 AM
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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
[...]but I am more excited with the Diaz-Pettis fight. i can't wait to see these two cocky fighters go at it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXhKX1eIFo

I am not really sure why Nate chose to fight Anthony instead of a trilogy with Conor. He would have made more money with that. But this Diaz vs. Pettis isn't bad at all. I expect more trash talking and drama show as we get closer to the fight.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 02:35:49 AM
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Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019

MAIN CARD:
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa

Havent seen this guy for a long time. His last fight was year ago and now he faces 11-0 bjj black belt, that wins most of his fight with TKO Cheesy
This fight definitely will take a fight of the night (if not only Stipe takes belt from DC).
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 06, 2019, 01:49:48 AM
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Well, Conor McGregor is the only fighter to ever make Khabib Nurmagomedov lose a round, this within itself is something worth studying. What happened within the fight for Khabib to lose said round? I would say that Conor outstriked a gassed out Khabib on that round. He was exhausted from all the ground and pound and trying to keep Conor down on round 1 which Conor defended pretty well. Conor also showed that he is extremely durable, he wasn't concussed after the ground and pounding, he has never been KO'd, guy is robust as hell.
The commentators were calling that Khabib was gassed out in the third round, was he actually gassed out or he wanted to show the entire world that he could stand with McGregor and it was a close round but you cannot tell that McGregor won that round as it was a really close round in his entire career, just look at the face of McGregor when he was taken to the ground in the first and second round he had no clue what to do like the rest of Khabib's opponents throughout his career. McGregor never got KO'd but he taps as soon as someone attempts a submission and so is the reason Khabib called him a tap machine Cheesy.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 05, 2019, 01:25:04 PM
#311
Quote from: rosezionjohn on August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019


MAIN CARD:
Daniel Cormier vs. Stipe Miocic
Anthony Pettis vs. Nate Diaz
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa
Derek Brunson vs. Ian Heinisch

PRELIMINARY:
Gabriel Benitez VS Sodiq Yusuff
Devonte Smith VS John Makdessi
Raphael Assuncao VS Cory Sandhagen
Poliana Botelho VS Maryna Moroz
Manny Bermudez VS Casey Kenney
Christos Giagos VS Drakkar Klose
Hannah Cifers VS Jodie Esquibel
Kyung Ho Kang VS Brandon Davis
Sabina Mazo VS Shana Dobson


I am pretty sure the Comier-Miocic II will be a good one but I am more excited with the Diaz-Pettis fight. i can't wait to see these two cocky fighters go at it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXhKX1eIFo
Are you sure your card is in the good order? The main event will be Daniel Cormier vs Stipe Miocic?  Huh
I was thinking it was Anthony Pettis vs Nate Diaz?  Undecided


Edit: My bad, you're right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_241 "UFC 241: Cormier vs. Miocic 2" in Anaheim, California.
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Re: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread
August 05, 2019, 12:38:32 PM
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UFC 241 is just around the corner
Aug. 18, 2019


MAIN CARD:
Daniel Cormier vs. Stipe Miocic
Anthony Pettis vs. Nate Diaz
Yoel Romero vs Paulo Costa
Derek Brunson vs. Ian Heinisch

PRELIMINARY:
Gabriel Benitez VS Sodiq Yusuff
Devonte Smith VS John Makdessi
Raphael Assuncao VS Cory Sandhagen
Poliana Botelho VS Maryna Moroz
Manny Bermudez VS Casey Kenney
Christos Giagos VS Drakkar Klose
Hannah Cifers VS Jodie Esquibel
Kyung Ho Kang VS Brandon Davis
Sabina Mazo VS Shana Dobson


I am pretty sure the Comier-Miocic II will be a good one but I am more excited with the Diaz-Pettis fight. i can't wait to see these two cocky fighters go at it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXhKX1eIFo

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