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Quote from: Fredomago on August 02, 2022, 10:02:36 AM

Better to rely on your own knowledge unless the person who exposed the game rigging is someone who is close to you and the trust that you can provide is higher. Taking the risk is profitable only if you manage to ride with the kind of illegal transactions behind. twice the risk, but if you manage to explore and start finding the best bet for your money.

We don't know though if you will be able to continually pick the best bet as there's also manipulation even you think that the game was rigged.

It is better to not take the risk because it is in fact quite common that someone approaches you with supposed insider information about an event which may not be very popular, but how do you know if the information is reliable?

A very common scam on the Internet is that a scammer sends to a list of emails he got the results of a match, however half of the list gets a result while the other half gets the other result, he does this several times and only a small amount of people got all the correct results, then he claims to have insider information and he will let you know the results in advance for a sum of money, and since you are convinced this person knows what they are talking about you pay them, only to get nothing in return for their money.

Informations like this wont surfaced out easily unless if you do pay something big to acquire those information even if we do talk about small leagues where rigged games do usually happen.

This isnt something new and for us to say that this could damage gambling completely.Its not that rare to happen and just like been said that this is mostly happening on smaller leagues which
there are only few who do watch but still players or teams would be needing to be careful on executing it because they do know on what would be the consequences that they might be
facing up ahead once theyve been caught or proven out to have fixed games.So determining or pointing out which one is really hard.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 02, 2022, 10:02:36 AM

Better to rely on your own knowledge unless the person who exposed the game rigging is someone who is close to you and the trust that you can provide is higher. Taking the risk is profitable only if you manage to ride with the kind of illegal transactions behind. twice the risk, but if you manage to explore and start finding the best bet for your money.

We don't know though if you will be able to continually pick the best bet as there's also manipulation even you think that the game was rigged.

It is better to not take the risk because it is in fact quite common that someone approaches you with supposed insider information about an event which may not be very popular, but how do you know if the information is reliable?

A very common scam on the Internet is that a scammer sends to a list of emails he got the results of a match, however half of the list gets a result while the other half gets the other result, he does this several times and only a small amount of people got all the correct results, then he claims to have insider information and he will let you know the results in advance for a sum of money, and since you are convinced this person knows what they are talking about you pay them, only to get nothing in return for their money.

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Quote from: strunberg on August 01, 2022, 05:48:49 PM

alot gamblers also need information from insider like on stock trading. it really how could a game that have 50% win probability need this kind information. this is the real fact that we have to think smart and clearly , no one will get certainity or huge win rate in gambling although they have inside info.

Even very good players who have their own working strategies will not be able to earn big money for many reasons. But insider information can significantly increase the chances of winning, but you understand how unlikely it is to find this source. Well, this is no longer legal, and may entail not very good consequences. So you need to rely on yourself, and think with your own head.

Better to rely on your own knowledge unless the person who exposed the game rigging is someone who is close to you and the trust that you can provide is higher. Taking the risk is profitable only if you manage to ride with the kind of illegal transactions behind. twice the risk, but if you manage to explore and start finding the best bet for your money.

We don't know though if you will be able to continually pick the best bet as there's also manipulation even you think that the game was rigged.

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It can be a fixed match, could be a picture of corruption or they just did it naturally. It seems to me it can also be a practice penalty but it cannot happen during any game. If you notice there are no spectators on the field. It can be said that it is a match without spectators. However, it is not unusual to see something strange in the playground.

The penalty for this kind of players and game should be more strict, better to banned them for good if there's a legit basis for this one. Fixed matches is not ok, it can really ruin the reputation of the league but of course not the whole sports, maybe there's too much politics with that team and with that league, better to review that video and ask for a written statement with regards to this one, well-fixed matches is not a new thing here anymore.

They don't deserve to be in the industry if they don't know how to play fair and focuses only on their own benefit even if it will hit back the reputation of the sports negatively. Fixed matches should be put into the end and even the organizers that allow it should penalize once proven. It's unfair to bettors who trust the players.

Damn! That's right. Love for the sport. I think that should be preserved as players now are just thinking about the money they will make to secure their life. We don't see Jordan's anymore.
He was loved not because he was making a ton of money but because of the skill set that he could show to the mass.
This will happen eventually but those who disagree with it will be those who will be loved by the fans.
MJ for example go against the fixed game to lose against the Jazz even though he knew that act will make him lose his father.
Many players are losing respect for the games they play. It's not looking good anymore.

The world has materialized a lot and people prefer money more than anything else. That's a sad reality and there can be a number of reasons for this. Maybe the players are not being paid well or the respect is no more important for the players.

The only way to stop this trend is to give punishment to the players where we see such shameless execution of fixed matches.
Believe me, if we can give punishment or cancel the player's contracts for a few players involved in these evil acts, this will give a strong message to the players that if they do not stop this, they will have to face legal strict complications. However, if the management is
lenient over such acts, I am afraid that people will continue playing with the emotions of the people only for the sake of
easy money. Angry

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Quote from: abel1337 on August 01, 2022, 02:40:06 PM

True, Match fixing on higher leagues are different. Players who are being bribed is being extra careful on the moves he/she will do because it's easy for their viewers and fans to see if their are something weird happening. I'm sure they are aware that one suspicious move can make the game flagged as match fixing, This is why players that has reputation are being extra careful not being caught. This is why I think we only have seen few match fixing games on higher leagues compared to lower ones.

in terms of quality and regulation of higher league leagues it is very rare to find cases of match fixing or score manipulation involving a few people, especially for bribery of players, very rarely found in big leagues they will maintain their reputation and uphold high as professional players.

as for cases that have become scandals, usually only involve management or important people who can arrange a match according to their wishes.
I am reminded of the case that once involved a big Serie A club, Juventus in 2006, a series of cases involving managers and referee organizations.

Well, after more than a decade the big leagues put more emphasis on professionalism and club strength than being involved in match-fixing.

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Quote from: strunberg on August 01, 2022, 05:48:49 PM

alot gamblers also need information from insider like on stock trading. it really how could a game that have 50% win probability need this kind information. this is the real fact that we have to think smart and clearly , no one will get certainity or huge win rate in gambling although they have inside info.

Even very good players who have their own working strategies will not be able to earn big money for many reasons. But insider information can significantly increase the chances of winning, but you understand how unlikely it is to find this source. Well, this is no longer legal, and may entail not very good consequences. So you need to rely on yourself, and think with your own head.

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actually it is the community and management of soccer society that will have to banned each players that they will never let those people to play soccer anymore , because the problem here is that the law is simply being violated but the sanction is tolerable and the people responsible is punished just a little.
and if this continue then no one will stop this kind of game selling .

As far as the involved league is concerned, looks like they are not even serious on that matter. No actions are being imposed or even it has, maybe not that heavy that's why everyone who wants to rig the match is just playing it easy.

right , this is also the reason why abusing is still in progress because of those Red taped people around the community , and they are the one who must be prevented first before these rig matching.

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Look at how easy for those players to have that obvious plays that they are not even worried that they will experience big sanctions for doing it.

They are comfortable doing it because maybe rigged matches are tolerable in that place. Maybe not just in football but other sports as well.

and they are not respecting the game itself , this made them showing how the game is manipulated and not worth trusting anymore.

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Quote from: abel1337 on August 01, 2022, 02:40:06 PM

True, Match fixing on higher leagues are different. Players who are being bribed is being extra careful on the moves he/she will do because it's easy for their viewers and fans to see if their are something weird happening. I'm sure they are aware that one suspicious move can make the game flagged as match fixing, This is why players that has reputation are being extra careful not being caught. This is why I think we only have seen few match fixing games on higher leagues compared to lower ones.

the players in the higher leagues have a lot of pay so it's rare they are seen trying to cheat (paid by the bookie in fixing a score on match)

FIFA sanctions against clubs and players for fixing the score in a match is very hard, many players can not play for their whole life because they are caught cheating and fixing the score

but it is undeniable that the practice of match-fixing will continue to exist but it will often appear in the lower leagues

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~ Some people are looking for fixed games so that they can bet on them and win sure shot money. What could be better for gamblers if he knew about the fixed matches before the match and bet on the winning team? ~

It's a known way of scamming some greedy gamblers that want to make a quick buck. Scammers say they have some "inside info" and they want a reward for disclosing it. Giving it a sober look, it's an obvious scam, but greed makes you makes you drunk, and blind, and then broke in the end.

Greed had made many gambles to end up in big losses because of discontentment when they see info that looks very real to believe. I don't blame some gamblers because they need to learn and observe things because they take some improper decision. Scammers always present there scamming attempts to look real and on point some that they can have good number of victims

alot gamblers also need information from insider like on stock trading. it really how could a game that have 50% win probability need this kind information. this is the real fact that we have to think smart and clearly , no one will get certainity or huge win rate in gambling although they have inside info.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 01, 2022, 05:50:55 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 31, 2022, 12:12:25 PM

~ Some people are looking for fixed games so that they can bet on them and win sure shot money. What could be better for gamblers if he knew about the fixed matches before the match and bet on the winning team? ~

It's a known way of scamming some greedy gamblers that want to make a quick buck. Scammers say they have some "inside info" and they want a reward for disclosing it. Giving it a sober look, it's an obvious scam, but greed makes you makes you drunk, and blind, and then broke in the end.

We have an existing thread of a newbie asking for info on fixed matches you can check it out here Want Fixed Matches he'll likely get offers from scammers they will not give you info if you don't pay up first, this is the kind of gamblers that don't want to play fair and want to link up to corrupt people and system to ruin the gambling organizations, well all organizations have corrupt people, but there's no guaranty that you can make profit from fixed matches either you get all caught or the tips or inside info turn out to be faked.

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Okay in this case it is true when we bet it is all about luck. But when this Fixing is there, indeed luck will not be able to happen because indeed things like this will definitely affect the results and that is very clear.
This is no longer a matter of luck because luck like that will only condense with arrangements made by irresponsible parties.

I guess luck is still involved in this. If happen you don't know that the match is rigged, you have a 50/50 chance to bet on the winning team whether it is rigged or not. So basically it is counting on your luck to bet on the rigged winning side this time. So our in skill determining who will win isn't an option in this kind of rigged match.

Btw when the gambler knows it's rigged and he bets there and wins it's not luck because it's something for sure Cheesy

Don't worry about other people, I will also do something like that even with bigger bets if I know that there will be cheating and to win a team there.
It's not luck but taking advantage of the momentum that was there for personal gain.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 31, 2022, 11:12:42 AM

Yes fix matches do happen in different leagues but not as obvious that the public will instantly know something went wrong. Fix matches are suppose to be what the coaching crew may know and players but fans that are not insiders won't know but in the case of this particular one, even passer by that happens to watch it would ask questions too. This kind of fix matches makes people treat the game with unseriousness, mockery and disdain.

It will be tag by those who watch and bet with this type of game, it's no secret that game-fixing is really happening but not that obvious, there are rigged games that taking place and people who are involved to this business knows how to deal in it without a trace, in some cases, there are obvious that being reviewed and if proven sanctions will take place.

Parties that involve in these transactions are moving in a very discreet way in order not to being caught by anyone around.

Unfortunately, it will depend on the severity of the game and how obvious the fixed match for parties to be penalize on this kind of events. Small events and game has the most obvious and more fixed matches has been made as players are easily bribed to do so. However, fixed matches also happens on huge games but it not as obvious and further investigation will be held before even declaring the game as a fixed match and for someone to be penalized. But, it is rare for someone to be caught doing so as reputation are staked on higher leagues.

True, Match fixing on higher leagues are different. Players who are being bribed is being extra careful on the moves he/she will do because it's easy for their viewers and fans to see if their are something weird happening. I'm sure they are aware that one suspicious move can make the game flagged as match fixing, This is why players that has reputation are being extra careful not being caught. This is why I think we only have seen few match fixing games on higher leagues compared to lower ones.

It is really rampant on lower leagues on which only a few or wont really be getting that much attention which would really be that easy to execute those match fixing plans and its true that fans eyes arent
really that too dumb on not to notice something odd because once we are really that familiar with the game plus on the past performance of a certain player or team and having a little bit
change would really raising up some eyebrows on what the hell is happening and this is where suspicions do being mold or created thats why its not really that much common on
bigger leagues since it could really be noticed out easily and thats something that they dont really like.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 31, 2022, 11:12:42 AM

Yes fix matches do happen in different leagues but not as obvious that the public will instantly know something went wrong. Fix matches are suppose to be what the coaching crew may know and players but fans that are not insiders won't know but in the case of this particular one, even passer by that happens to watch it would ask questions too. This kind of fix matches makes people treat the game with unseriousness, mockery and disdain.

It will be tag by those who watch and bet with this type of game, it's no secret that game-fixing is really happening but not that obvious, there are rigged games that taking place and people who are involved to this business knows how to deal in it without a trace, in some cases, there are obvious that being reviewed and if proven sanctions will take place.

Parties that involve in these transactions are moving in a very discreet way in order not to being caught by anyone around.

Unfortunately, it will depend on the severity of the game and how obvious the fixed match for parties to be penalize on this kind of events. Small events and game has the most obvious and more fixed matches has been made as players are easily bribed to do so. However, fixed matches also happens on huge games but it not as obvious and further investigation will be held before even declaring the game as a fixed match and for someone to be penalized. But, it is rare for someone to be caught doing so as reputation are staked on higher leagues.

True, Match fixing on higher leagues are different. Players who are being bribed is being extra careful on the moves he/she will do because it's easy for their viewers and fans to see if their are something weird happening. I'm sure they are aware that one suspicious move can make the game flagged as match fixing, This is why players that has reputation are being extra careful not being caught. This is why I think we only have seen few match fixing games on higher leagues compared to lower ones.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 01, 2022, 09:59:33 AM

Quote from: Gozie51 on July 31, 2022, 11:12:42 AM

Yes fix matches do happen in different leagues but not as obvious that the public will instantly know something went wrong. Fix matches are suppose to be what the coaching crew may know and players but fans that are not insiders won't know but in the case of this particular one, even passer by that happens to watch it would ask questions too. This kind of fix matches makes people treat the game with unseriousness, mockery and disdain.

It will be tag by those who watch and bet with this type of game, it's no secret that game-fixing is really happening but not that obvious, there are rigged games that taking place and people who are involved to this business knows how to deal in it without a trace, in some cases, there are obvious that being reviewed and if proven sanctions will take place.

Parties that involve in these transactions are moving in a very discreet way in order not to being caught by anyone around.

Unfortunately, it will depend on the severity of the game and how obvious the fixed match for parties to be penalize on this kind of events. Small events and game has the most obvious and more fixed matches has been made as players are easily bribed to do so. However, fixed matches also happens on huge games but it not as obvious and further investigation will be held before even declaring the game as a fixed match and for someone to be penalized. But, it is rare for someone to be caught doing so as reputation are staked on higher leagues.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 01, 2022, 09:59:33 AM

It will be tag by those who watch and bet with this type of game, it's no secret that game-fixing is really happening but not that obvious, there are rigged games that taking place and people who are involved to this business knows how to deal in it without a trace, in some cases, there are obvious that being reviewed and if proven sanctions will take place.

Parties that involve in these transactions are moving in a very discreet way in order not to being caught by anyone around.

There is so much crime in the world.
People can do anything to steal money from others people pocket.
I have read in different forms there are a lot of responsible gamblers too - who worry about their money only and cannot trap other. I like that kind of attitude.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on July 31, 2022, 11:12:42 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on July 31, 2022, 08:04:43 AM

well fixed matches is not a new thing here anymore.

Yes fix matches do happen in different leagues but not as obvious that the public will instantly know something went wrong. Fix matches are suppose to be what the coaching crew may know and players but fans that are not insiders won't know but in the case of this particular one, even passer by that happens to watch it would ask questions too. This kind of fix matches makes people treat the game with unseriousness, mockery and disdain.

It will be tag by those who watch and bet with this type of game, it's no secret that game-fixing is really happening but not that obvious, there are rigged games that taking place and people who are involved to this business knows how to deal in it without a trace, in some cases, there are obvious that being reviewed and if proven sanctions will take place.

Parties that involve in these transactions are moving in a very discreet way in order not to being caught by anyone around.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

I do hear of matching fixing until I think the past FIFA president Sepp Blatter and former EUFA president Michel platini was sometime acussed of match fixing and curruption though I can't vividly recall the whole senario then but something like that did happen in the past maybe someone with good knowledge it could testify. The issue of matching is not a recent issues , I believe they do this match fixing of a thing along side in agreement with some of this sports betting companies in my humble opinion, Remember that football is a big business not only in English football (England) but across other leagues.

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Quote from: Betwrong on August 01, 2022, 05:50:55 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on July 31, 2022, 12:12:25 PM

~ Some people are looking for fixed games so that they can bet on them and win sure shot money. What could be better for gamblers if he knew about the fixed matches before the match and bet on the winning team? ~

It's a known way of scamming some greedy gamblers that want to make a quick buck. Scammers say they have some "inside info" and they want a reward for disclosing it. Giving it a sober look, it's an obvious scam, but greed makes you makes you drunk, and blind, and then broke in the end.

Exactly.If a person have an inside info why should he share it with you in the first place when he can go and place a bet on the game himself.All the excuses like he has reached the max limit and so he needs more money to bet on different providers are just excuses to scam the naive gamblers.Remember that fixed matches do exist but only in inner circle,for people close to the teams who are making this happen and they sure won't share any info with outsiders.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on July 31, 2022, 12:12:25 PM

~ Some people are looking for fixed games so that they can bet on them and win sure shot money. What could be better for gamblers if he knew about the fixed matches before the match and bet on the winning team? ~

It's a known way of scamming some greedy gamblers that want to make a quick buck. Scammers say they have some "inside info" and they want a reward for disclosing it. Giving it a sober look, it's an obvious scam, but greed makes you makes you drunk, and blind, and then broke in the end.

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Quote from: btc78 on July 31, 2022, 01:50:22 AM

actually it is the community and management of soccer society that will have to banned each players that they will never let those people to play soccer anymore , because the problem here is that the law is simply being violated but the sanction is tolerable and the people responsible is punished just a little.
and if this continue then no one will stop this kind of game selling .

As far as the involved league is concerned, looks like they are not even serious on that matter. No actions are being imposed or even it has, maybe not that heavy that's why everyone who wants to rig the match is just playing it easy.

Look at how easy for those players to have that obvious plays that they are not even worried that they will experience big sanctions for doing it.

They are comfortable doing it because maybe rigged matches are tolerable in that place. Maybe not just in football but other sports as well.

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