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Quote from: agustina2 on July 31, 2022, 06:02:07 PM

Quote from: YOSHIE on July 31, 2022, 09:58:53 AM

If I were the owner of a sports betting site, of course I would take out both teams to bet on.

Not only both teams but bookies should also take out all the matches in the entire league to prevent further bettings on that fixed match.

Besides, removing those will not give a heavy toll on those bookies since if I'm not mistaken, the betting market on that league where the fixed match happened is not that impressive. And the league itself already has a bad reputation. Why there are still bettors betting on that league?

God bless that country where fixed matches are just a simple thing to do.

strongly agreed - do you know there are places where fixed matches occur and where people do gamble despite of the fact these all are ban in those countries as well- people find ways to benefit themselves. Either good or bad they just find it.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 31, 2022, 09:58:53 AM

If I were the owner of a sports betting site, of course I would take out both teams to bet on.

Not only both teams but bookies should also take out all the matches in the entire league to prevent further bettings on that fixed match.

Besides, removing those will not give a heavy toll on those bookies since if I'm not mistaken, the betting market on that league where the fixed match happened is not that impressive. And the league itself already has a bad reputation. Why there are still bettors betting on that league?

God bless that country where fixed matches are just a simple thing to do.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 30, 2022, 10:43:59 PM

Dramas like this will always exist in the world of football, but I hope that in the future dramas like this will no longer be relevant to the efforts of prevention and strict sanctions from the federations in each country.

Blame the sports agency on the country if there are no hard and strict regulations regarding the fixed matches.

If only the implementation of that law is really strict, only a few will be involved in that rigged matches since the heavy consequences will be the cost.

Here in our country, a fixed match is rare but when there's a confirm fixed match, all players and teams that are involved will be totally out of their profession plus a big money penalty will be imposed. Because that was the penalty here, the fixed match is a rare case here but except for local sports that are not regulated or governed by our sports agency here.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 30, 2022, 10:43:59 PM

there is a lot of drama like this in sports despite the fact that in football there is VAR. however, not all local league tournaments (small) always involve VAR technology due to the high cost of the technology.

as you said, I also experience a lot of anger in football matches especially local football in my country. despite all that, what is served from the link will have no significant impact on soccer betting.
Dramas like this will always exist in the world of football, but I hope that in the future dramas like this will no longer be relevant to the efforts of prevention and strict sanctions from the federations in each country.

Var has nothing to do with this since anyone clearly sees what is happening in front of them but I think that var only helps if the referee are quite unsure of their decisions or there's an action which are done very quick that they didn't clearly noticed it.

Drama in sports are normal but usually those are real and not staged, like opposing teams having an argument with each other. Not only you but all of us have an anger but we can't help but come back in the game later on because we are already attached to it and we know that not all times are bad or not all matches are fixed so it's totally fine for us to see one or two fixed matches sometimes.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 31, 2022, 03:47:49 PM

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Quote from: bekti3 on July 30, 2022, 03:19:44 PM

I don't think we deserve to call this gambling because indeed this is not gambling but an arrangement made by several parties there.
In the initial context it is clear that this is not just for gambling but there are other advantages that they definitely get from doing something unsportsmanlike like this.

But the thing is, the betting sports industry is affected by this kind of game. It is unfair for outside parties who is not involved in fixing game because they have no idea about the planned result of the game and may incur huge loss to them. While the parties involved in fixing games will surely win and gain huge money from the losing bettors.

I just want to assure you that gambling booking and the prediction is all about luck which everyone know and it is not something that you will be desperate or assure yourself that you win we know that in gambling industry or betting industry what is the major concern his ability to interpret and understand what game is all about but all this it does not assure the possibility of winning again only thing that mean again is the the lock that follows the predictor

Okay in this case it is true when we bet it is all about luck. But when this Fixing is there, indeed luck will not be able to happen because indeed things like this will definitely affect the results and that is very clear.
This is no longer a matter of luck because luck like that will only condense with arrangements made by irresponsible parties.

I guess luck is still involved in this. If happen you don't know that the match is rigged, you have a 50/50 chance to bet on the winning team whether it is rigged or not. So basically it is counting on your luck to bet on the rigged winning side this time. So our in skill determining who will win isn't an option in this kind of rigged match.

It could worth if the odds for the match were above x2. Less than that makes the risk not worthful to be taken, since you can find better odds at casino games with provably fair feature. Anyway, to bet on rigged matches kills a big portion of the purpose of sports betting, that is to analyze the teams, players and conditions involved to reach the right conclusion and result in order to achieve profit and build a reputation as professional tipster.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

This looks more like a protest than anything and it would be better to have more context around why this happened. I'm not saying it's right but maybe the team felt that the referee was actually the one being biased all game and decided to do this as payback. It's a bit strange that the whole stadium is empty, is that some sort of Covid measure in place right now or just the fact that this match is so far down into the amateur leagues that it does not have many supporters? How do we know this isn't some sort of training session? It's hard to understand what is really happening based on this small clip because you really need to see the build up or at least a text/commentary description around it.

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Quote from: bekti3 on July 31, 2022, 01:02:43 PM

Quote from: minime0105 on July 30, 2022, 05:11:38 PM

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Quote from: bekti3 on July 30, 2022, 03:19:44 PM

I don't think we deserve to call this gambling because indeed this is not gambling but an arrangement made by several parties there.
In the initial context it is clear that this is not just for gambling but there are other advantages that they definitely get from doing something unsportsmanlike like this.

But the thing is, the betting sports industry is affected by this kind of game. It is unfair for outside parties who is not involved in fixing game because they have no idea about the planned result of the game and may incur huge loss to them. While the parties involved in fixing games will surely win and gain huge money from the losing bettors.

I just want to assure you that gambling booking and the prediction is all about luck which everyone know and it is not something that you will be desperate or assure yourself that you win we know that in gambling industry or betting industry what is the major concern his ability to interpret and understand what game is all about but all this it does not assure the possibility of winning again only thing that mean again is the the lock that follows the predictor

Okay in this case it is true when we bet it is all about luck. But when this Fixing is there, indeed luck will not be able to happen because indeed things like this will definitely affect the results and that is very clear.
This is no longer a matter of luck because luck like that will only condense with arrangements made by irresponsible parties.

I guess luck is still involved in this. If happen you don't know that the match is rigged, you have a 50/50 chance to bet on the winning team whether it is rigged or not. So basically it is counting on your luck to bet on the rigged winning side this time. So our in skill determining who will win isn't an option in this kind of rigged match.

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Quote from: minime0105 on July 30, 2022, 05:11:38 PM

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Quote from: bekti3 on July 30, 2022, 03:19:44 PM

I don't think we deserve to call this gambling because indeed this is not gambling but an arrangement made by several parties there.
In the initial context it is clear that this is not just for gambling but there are other advantages that they definitely get from doing something unsportsmanlike like this.

But the thing is, the betting sports industry is affected by this kind of game. It is unfair for outside parties who is not involved in fixing game because they have no idea about the planned result of the game and may incur huge loss to them. While the parties involved in fixing games will surely win and gain huge money from the losing bettors.

I just want to assure you that gambling booking and the prediction is all about luck which everyone know and it is not something that you will be desperate or assure yourself that you win we know that in gambling industry or betting industry what is the major concern his ability to interpret and understand what game is all about but all this it does not assure the possibility of winning again only thing that mean again is the the lock that follows the predictor

Okay in this case it is true when we bet it is all about luck. But when this Fixing is there, indeed luck will not be able to happen because indeed things like this will definitely affect the results and that is very clear.
This is no longer a matter of luck because luck like that will only condense with arrangements made by irresponsible parties.

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Quote from: Reid on July 31, 2022, 10:18:16 AM

Fixed games.
Nah.
What damages the gambling industry more is not paying up what is supposed to be paid.
This fixed games became a norm and no one ever cared about it. It will happen specially in the lower tournament games.
What they should be more focused is about cleaning up their reputation whenever someone is trying to make a dent.
Besides, this ain't part of the big leagues where more people are gathering.

Some people are looking for fixed games so that they can bet on them and win sure shot money. What could be better for gamblers if he knew about the fixed matches before the match and bet on the winning team? But usually this information is not disclosed publicly. Maybe the insiders or the management staff who knew about the result , also bet anonymously to make additional money.
But overall these fixed matches destroy the sports and people will lose interest in the teams who involve in match fixing.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 31, 2022, 08:04:43 AM

well fixed matches is not a new thing here anymore.

Yes fix matches do happen in different leagues but not as obvious that the public will instantly know something went wrong. Fix matches are suppose to be what the coaching crew may know and players but fans that are not insiders won't know but in the case of this particular one, even passer by that happens to watch it would ask questions too. This kind of fix matches makes people treat the game with unseriousness, mockery and disdain.

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Quote from: virasisog on July 31, 2022, 09:21:22 AM

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 31, 2022, 07:21:45 AM

It can be a fixed match, could be a picture of corruption or they just did it naturally. It seems to me it can also be a practice penalty but it cannot happen during any game. If you notice there are no spectators on the field. It can be said that it is a match without spectators. However, it is not unusual to see something strange in the playground.

The penalty for this kind of players and game should be more strict, better to banned them for good if there's a legit basis for this one. Fixed matches is not ok, it can really ruin the reputation of the league but of course not the whole sports, maybe there's too much politics with that team and with that league, better to review that video and ask for a written statement with regards to this one, well-fixed matches is not a new thing here anymore.

They don't deserve to be in the industry if they don't know how to play fair and focuses only on their own benefit even if it will hit back the reputation of the sports negatively. Fixed matches should be put into the end and even the organizers that allow it should penalize once proven. It's unfair to bettors who trust the players.

Damn! That's right. Love for the sport. I think that should be preserved as players now are just thinking about the money they will make to secure their life. We don't see Jordan's anymore.
He was loved not because he was making a ton of money but because of the skill set that he could show to the mass.
This will happen eventually but those who disagree with it will be those who will be loved by the fans.
MJ for example go against the fixed game to lose against the Jazz even though he knew that act will make him lose his father.
Many players are losing respect for the games they play. It's not looking good anymore.

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Fixed games.
Nah.
What damages the gambling industry more is not paying up what is supposed to be paid.
This fixed games became a norm and no one ever cared about it. It will happen specially in the lower tournament games.
What they should be more focused is about cleaning up their reputation whenever someone is trying to make a dent.
Besides, this ain't part of the big leagues where more people are gathering.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsB15QKz9No&ab_channel=EBDSports

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

It should be the trust on people betting in that region but not in the sports, in general, we are not aware of this because it comes from little league, but if this is in a big league then it's a different story, there's not enough information about that video you should post more because it's not giving us an accurate report, if this is true then it should be reported to organizations that manage them, they will not let this happen.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

I really think this damage the trust in the sports bets , or anything related to the sport gambling, i know a lot can say its a kind of protest but still really unclear.

I'm 100% sure anyone who bets for the red shirt team will be disappointed, however the penalty kicks are misleading.

The white shirt team should also be questioned the goalkeeper, how many MM did they get, I'm sure there is an element in football matches........! Both look strange, maybe it's my first time seeing a football match like the one on youtube, maybe if it happened in my country, there could be a big riot.

@darxiaomi, you are right that this match can trigger riots and destroy trust for both teams, especially in betting, If I were the owner of a sports betting site, of course I would take out both teams to bet on.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 31, 2022, 08:04:43 AM

Quote from: BobK71 on July 31, 2022, 07:21:45 AM

It can be a fixed match, could be a picture of corruption or they just did it naturally. It seems to me it can also be a practice penalty but it cannot happen during any game. If you notice there are no spectators on the field. It can be said that it is a match without spectators. However, it is not unusual to see something strange in the playground.

The penalty for this kind of players and game should be more strict, better to banned them for good if there's a legit basis for this one. Fixed matches is not ok, it can really ruin the reputation of the league but of course not the whole sports, maybe there's too much politics with that team and with that league, better to review that video and ask for a written statement with regards to this one, well-fixed matches is not a new thing here anymore.

They don't deserve to be in the industry if they don't know how to play fair and focuses only on their own benefit even if it will hit back the reputation of the sports negatively. Fixed matches should be put into the end and even the organizers that allow it should penalize once proven. It's unfair to bettors who trust the players.

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Quote from: BobK71 on July 31, 2022, 07:21:45 AM

It can be a fixed match, could be a picture of corruption or they just did it naturally. It seems to me it can also be a practice penalty but it cannot happen during any game. If you notice there are no spectators on the field. It can be said that it is a match without spectators. However, it is not unusual to see something strange in the playground.

The penalty for this kind of players and game should be more strict, better to banned them for good if there's a legit basis for this one. Fixed matches is not ok, it can really ruin the reputation of the league but of course not the whole sports, maybe there's too much politics with that team and with that league, better to review that video and ask for a written statement with regards to this one, well fixed matches is not a new thing here anymore.

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It can be a fixed match, could be a picture of corruption or they just did it naturally. It seems to me it can also be a practice penalty but it cannot happen during any game. If you notice there are no spectators on the field. It can be said that it is a match without spectators. However, it is not unusual to see something strange in the playground.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on July 15, 2022, 01:13:46 PM

Well i cant put more words, the video says it all.

Okay this unbelievable, how did the game actually count after such an action? Did the goalkeeper stand still during every penalty kick? After quickly googling the issue it seems that there was a penalty shootout after 90 minutes of game time. Why isn't there overtime before it goes to penalties, usually games are 90 minutes, plus 30 minutes overtime . Maybe it's something different in the Nigerian leagues. Also both teams seem to already have qualified for the state cup finals, so there was not a lot of pressure on the match. But still this is no excuse to act like that during a professional football match. Also it seems that they can choose to stream or not the actual match which makes me wonder about the legitimacy of the results. What is not fully clearly is if there is any betting scene for the Nigerian cup games. For international bookmakers the scene is probably too small, so it would only be local betting on the matches. I hope the people who lost got their money back.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 30, 2022, 10:43:59 PM

there is a lot of drama like this in sports despite the fact that in football there is VAR. however, not all local league tournaments (small) always involve VAR technology due to the high cost of the technology.

as you said, I also experience a lot of anger in football matches especially local football in my country. despite all that, what is served from the link will have no significant impact on soccer betting.
Dramas like this will always exist in the world of football, but I hope that in the future dramas like this will no longer be relevant to the efforts of prevention and strict sanctions from the federations in each country.

actually it is the community and management of soccer society that will have to banned each players that they will never let those people to play soccer anymore , because the problem here is that the law is simply being violated but the sanction is tolerable and the people responsible is punished just a little.
and if this continue then no one will stop this kind of game selling .

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 30, 2022, 10:43:59 PM

there is a lot of drama like this in sports despite the fact that in football there is VAR. however, not all local league tournaments (small) always involve VAR technology due to the high cost of the technology.

Indeed, I agree with your said. Since the technology needs to be developed more to reach better performance, VAR is not implemented in all league tournaments. So we as an audience, can enjoy the tournaments and do not feel anything and do not watch more dramas as you said. In local competitions or tournaments, the referees need to work hard and clean the games so the players are not cheating. Maybe VAR can help the tournaments and there is a chance that the tournaments do not use the referees to supervise the games.

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