Topic: This guy gave a whole prototype of "how live roulette scam us" - page 3. (Read 2150 times)

You got a point. Reputable and big casinos don't have to cheat on roulette knowing that they will win at the end of day. Even on real roulette, I don't think that casino's will cheat because they can be exposed easily and it can make their casino go bankrupt rapidly if they caught red handed. Though not sll casino is fair to their players especially those who are on the verge of bankrupcy and the one who are just starting. To be safe, it would be better for us to just stick on reputable casinos whether it's physical or online casino.

I know this, I have never seen if a person or expert player has exposed to a casino if they have cheated or not and the way in which they unmasked it, because in something if there is absolutely reason, how to make a casino recognize that they did trap? Otherwise yes, the casinos can expose when a player cheats, but when a casino? as? They are the ones with the records, videos, seeds, everything, so what way is there to prove that someone did not cheat ? And how many times have we been Victims of a Casino if such a thing Exists ? Those are the things I want to see here.

The casino doesn't need to deceive us because as we know that the casino will win in the end even though some gamblers can win. But more gamblers will lose and the money will go to the casinos, which means the casinos will win.

But casinos can cheat like that because we don't know if it's right or wrong. We can only see the video but it's hard for us to check directly because the casino will ask, do we want to play or do we want to check the system?

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

You got a point. Reputable and big casinos don't have to cheat on roulette knowing that they will win at the end of day. Even on real roulette, I don't think that casino's will cheat because they can be exposed easily and it can make their casino go bankrupt rapidly if they caught red handed. Though not sll casino is fair to their players especially those who are on the verge of bankrupcy and the one who are just starting. To be safe, it would be better for us to just stick on reputable casinos whether it's physical or online casino.

perhaps the first problem is why someone is complaining about a roulette. I mean, even if it works ethically as intended, it is still a bad idea that is surely going to make you loose, and that is with a proper algo, proper ranomness, etc... It does not take much to rig and it does not either take much more to think that you have been scammed and therefore there is plenty of argument for the wrong reasons.

I see the discussion has somewhat swerved from OP's original post. My only comment on that is, proof or you're talking shit, and casino's don't need to cheat as house edge is already in their favour, and gambler fallacy plus other common behaviours actually aid the house edge, the only thing they're exposed to is variance, so they already have systems in place to prevent overexposure.

It's bad business to cheat, and other casinos would love to expose you, so if the guy's comment has any value, my question is why he hasn't made a lot of money exposing it.

That said, the best bet is to know who audits the casino's RNG. And then choose to trust that audit's methods.

This is very important for any player to see no patterns when playing roulette. Because there can be no patterns, right? All "patterns" that we see playing any game purely based on luck is just a product of our imagination. They are unlucky people those who invented a strategy for roulette and accidentally it worked couple of times. The poor guys think their strategy actually works, and then they lose everything, while betting in hopes that it will work again.

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When I play roulette, there are no patterns, I have played a lot using patterns, both colors, even or odd numbers, and it is difficult for them to follow an order, because when one is completely sure that what is predicted will come out , it does not come out This is normal, so there are many roulette strategies , you have to use them all to see what Works at a certain Time.

So, you guys are implying that detecting a fraudster in a physical casino is a lost cause compared to the apparent transparency of online ones, right? Thats a provocative assertion, wouldn't you say? But suppose one uncovers a scam? Should they suppress their apprehension, or rally for fairness? Its controversial, isnt it?

True, asserting malpractice can be perilous and may boomerang. But should that curb our outcry? Seems slightly drastic, wouldnt you say? Lets not forget, casinos, be it online or physical, are under various regulations. Is the purported 'risk' of challenging brick-and-mortar casinos somewhat amplified? Possibly. Yet, vigilance is always the safest bet, agreed?

Testing out new strategies that you have learned recently is quite interesting because if we've known some methods then we could really think that it would really be giving out advantage and this is where most people been thinking but the truth is that we should really make use of these strategies for prolonging our gambling sessions and not really that believing that we could really take advantage against the house or something.
Now that we have seen this roulette type of rigging those rolls then we do have at least the idea about those probabilities which it could be seen on some casinos but its impossible that they would really be doing this publicly because once been caught then their business is over.

Yes, I don't doubt it, that's pure luck, I like to read a lot about game strategies, because when I'm playing sometimes I don't know what to do at a certain moment and if there is a good strategy, then it is feasible to apply it because you have another way of playing and doing things well, if they work or not, that depends on how lucky you are , if we have things in common with other players it is that a strategy works well for some but not for others, that It is normal, I do not think that if a strategy works for 1 or for a group , it is just a way of seeing things as they are , this in roulette is pure luck.

I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.


"The practice when the roulette balls are made of piezoeletric ceramiC.The material used is Barium Titanate BaTiO3 on the surface, and Barium sulfate BaSO4 on the inside insulation.
The ball caries polarized surface charges when hit by anultrasonic sound wave. This is sent from the inter- digital transducers placed in the pockets of each number.
They send a wave to the ball that polarizes the surface with a negative charge.
The spoon/ pocket  of the number olso negative; thereforethe ball jumps out trough electrostatic repulsion.
Each number pocket is controlled by a transistor called IGBT.
This transistor turn on the switch so that the pocket is negatively charged.
The control room computer leaves the pockets that it wants the ball to go in neutral or of.
This is akk maneged by the sophisticated software and computers.
So that why you can see situation when the ball geteither pushed out violentely od sucked into the exact to a number.
I am positive you know that the ball stick to a number like a dart and also ball being pushed out from the pocket after almost completestop.
So this would be yes this technique could be possibly used to manipulate the outcome.
This is happening on you live dealer wheels."

in comment of this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0rNhLySb0k

do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

That's exactly what happens when you follow a strategy: you lose or win more. That's it. It totally depends on luck. So, you can follow any strategy you want if that makes your experience more entertaining, but you shouldn't think that your strategy is effective if you won couple of times following it. You were just lucky, that's all.

If you're right about that, what happens is that you can't do more strategies, the game is completely round, there is no room for more, unless certain things are Reduced or increased in roulette , Numbers decrease, colors increase, but the efficiency index in roulette is quite difficult to achieve, I have read many times, and what Differs is that the players change the amount of their bets in some plays and that is what guarantees that you lose or win more, For those who increase money at the right time, it is obvious that they have a Maximum net profit If I do something like this and Pray Everything and earn more, I would Stay put and not bet more.

All strategies for roulette game are equal, absolutely everyone of them has the same value. If you see something like "The Best Roulette Strategies" on the web, you can read the info and follow the advises, or you can just ignore it, it doesn't matter, the result will be the same: if you are lucky - you will win, and if luck isn't on your side - you'll lose.

I can't say that the owners of the RouletteMan channel presented in the OP are scammers because I don't see they are scamming anyone for personal profit, but I can definitely say they are your time wasters. Saying that one Roulette Strategy is better than another is basically saying nonsense, and that's what they are doing on their channel with 34K unfortunate subscribers.

All strategies for roulette game are equal, absolutely everyone of them has the same value. If you see something like "The Best Roulette Strategies" on the web, you can read the info and follow the advises, or you can just ignore it, it doesn't matter, the result will be the same: if you are lucky - you will win, and if luck isn't on your side - you'll lose.

I can't say that the owners of the RouletteMan channel presented in the OP are scammers because I don't see they are scamming anyone for personal profit, but I can definitely say they are your time wasters. Saying that one Roulette Strategy is better than another is basically saying nonsense, and that's what they are doing on their channel with 34K unfortunate subscribers.

This is very similar to dice, when we are playing dice it is like that, I have tried these strategies several times, for example if I play 2x game of 190 plays only 3 have been good, out of 20 or 30 plays sometimes it comes out alone 1 play well or none, the efficiency index is very minimal, in roulette I have only played a few times, but I have sometimes put some strategies that I have read, it seems to me that the strategy that is safest is the one that bets on the colors and the zero, because betting on a number is very difficult, or also when the roulette wheels have the part of the even or odd number, I have also tried them and it works much better for me that way, but not to find a unique strategy.

So, you guys are implying that detecting a fraudster in a physical casino is a lost cause compared to the apparent transparency of online ones, right? Thats a provocative assertion, wouldn't you say? But suppose one uncovers a scam? Should they suppress their apprehension, or rally for fairness? Its controversial, isnt it?

True, asserting malpractice can be perilous and may boomerang. But should that curb our outcry? Seems slightly drastic, wouldnt you say? Lets not forget, casinos, be it online or physical, are under various regulations. Is the purported 'risk' of challenging brick-and-mortar casinos somewhat amplified? Possibly. Yet, vigilance is always the safest bet, agreed?