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It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.
This is why the most important thing is only gamble on an old and reputable third party providers, the risk of the games are manipulated or rigged are very low since they've been audited. There have been few third party providers get excluded by top casinos because they found the providers have a rigged game. More importantly people need to gamble for entertain, not for making money or source of income.
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It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.
Indeed, not all Roulette games or other games in the casino involve acts of manipulation, but there are some casinos that do carry out these actions and the average is a small casino that has the aim of cheating from the start.
If in a big casino I'm sure they can be relied on because they really maintain the trust of customers and also maintain a good reputation but if in a small casino I'm not sure I can rely on it and trust it too much.
It is true that most Roulette operates based on random chance, but if the numbers that come out can be the same sequentially then the gamblers who play there must have the thought that the game has been manipulated.
I know claiming that casinos carry out acts of manipulation is not a good thing and we have to be careful, but a sense of suspicion about things that don't make sense is normal, in my opinion, friend.
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It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.
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Some of you guys here are a fan of conspiracy theories and at the same time weren't attending math lessons at school. Live casino game providers can't cheat because there work thousands of employees, they have cameras everywhere inside and famous casino companies aren't really looking for shady live casino game providers because they simply don't have a need of it. Mathematically, one zero in roulette already gives casinos an advantage, a guarantee that long-term they profit, that's all they need for success and to be in business forever.

So, if you often lose and aren't able to beat the house, that doesn't mean that live roulettes are scam, you have to analyze and understand that you have zero chance to win against it because of ZERO, this ZERO changes the fate of game. And there are roulette games with two zeros, don't expect any win especially from them.
If the chances of winning is zero, then what exactly is the reason why peeps are still playing the game?..

A man said to his mother, when money is involved in a deal, then don't trust anybody, the truth of the matter is that, anybody can cheat, and for some casinos, their desire to make more profit is sometimes higher than their desire to give their customers a fair game to play, this is why I still believe that its very possible for some game providers, casinos to cheat, most especially, on games where the majority of gamblers don't know the game mechanics or how it functions.

To be honest, whenever I have played roulette it has always happened to me that I always seek to play with 0 and 00, I don't know, but they are the numbers that I always play and I like when there are many people in roulette and they can play at the same time, because my chances of winning increase, so it could be said that yes, they may be weaknesses but those weaknesses can become strengths, and that's what I did when I started in physical casinos,of course things change when they play in a casino online, the strategies change for me, it should be played more generally.

When we do play then it would really be just that normal that we do really have that kind of strategy on which we would really be tending to stick out because we do really believe that we could really be having that luck and advantage but well all of those things are just hunches or really that having the intuition but on the time that everything doesnt really work then this is the time we would really make out some adjustments which it would really be that normal. As long we do really enjoy on what we are doing then what that matter the most.

In the talks about possible rigging up the game or whats shown on op then it could be possible but its really that impossible that it wont really be busted up by those people who do able to see some oddness
of those  ball jumps or on how it do moves.I dont know on how it would be applied into those online roulette which we know that it cant be applied unless if those programs or codes are really that
intended on giving out disadvantage into its players but for physical then i didnt really expect that this one could really be possible basing up on the video where there are
triggers on which making the ball sticks into a particular color or number.  Shocked
sr. member
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While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.
You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.
Well, I don't even think this is true, a casino that gets a lot of customers already earns a lot of money since the house mostly wins and casinos are always in profit, why would they need to cheat their players only to get some money and obviously, if a casino continues doing that, they will probably get caught some day.

A casino management would probably think of the long term growth of their casino instead of getting some money by risking the whole reputation of their casino. That doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
legendary
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Some of you guys here are a fan of conspiracy theories and at the same time weren't attending math lessons at school. Live casino game providers can't cheat because there work thousands of employees, they have cameras everywhere inside and famous casino companies aren't really looking for shady live casino game providers because they simply don't have a need of it. Mathematically, one zero in roulette already gives casinos an advantage, a guarantee that long-term they profit, that's all they need for success and to be in business forever.

So, if you often lose and aren't able to beat the house, that doesn't mean that live roulettes are scam, you have to analyze and understand that you have zero chance to win against it because of ZERO, this ZERO changes the fate of game. And there are roulette games with two zeros, don't expect any win especially from them.
If the chances of winning is zero, then what exactly is the reason why peeps are still playing the game?..

A man said to his mother, when money is involved in a deal, then don't trust anybody, the truth of the matter is that, anybody can cheat, and for some casinos, their desire to make more profit is sometimes higher than their desire to give their customers a fair game to play, this is why I still believe that its very possible for some game providers, casinos to cheat, most especially, on games where the majority of gamblers don't know the game mechanics or how it functions.

To be honest, whenever I have played roulette it has always happened to me that I always seek to play with 0 and 00, I don't know, but they are the numbers that I always play and I like when there are many people in roulette and they can play at the same time, because my chances of winning increase, so it could be said that yes, they may be weaknesses but those weaknesses can become strengths, and that's what I did when I started in physical casinos,of course things change when they play in a casino online, the strategies change for me, it should be played more generally.
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No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would be an over line for you.



Most especially her in the forum, it's very hard for any scam to rein for long here before it gets busted and I am sure this also will result in the same thing, just as you have rightly said, whenever there is a smoke, there must definitely be a fire so is scam accustions, whenever you hear of them, it then means that casino has some characteristic that is not legit unless on few occasions were there can come out clean.

We have one or two casinos that have been busted in this manner before here in the forum, even if the never get caught outside the forum, but one can not hard bad character for long and I'm the long run everything they're worked for to build the scammy casino will probably be in vain since there may end up in jail in the case against them is proven in court.
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I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.
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Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.
You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.
It won't take long before any casino that is cheating it customers runs out of business because the fastest way for any business to die down is to take what belongs to its customers there is a saying that goes that if you lose one good customer, you are indirectly losing 10 potential customers.

And same rule applies to casinos or other businesses the only time you can see a casino not paying attention to the feelings of their customer is when there are already set out to scam them, and those kinds of casinos are not hard to noticed and from the mood of operations, you can easily identify them and that is how fast the reputation get dented.
No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is really cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would really be an over line for you.

Rigged and unfair casino or platform does exist, it is really just that there's no way for us to verify out if ever we do have those doubts but most of the time these kind of mindset is into those someone who
do just simply likes on looking for someone to blame. This is why even those fair companies would really be able to be included on to that blaming time of those losing gamblers.
Checking on the video then it is quite that obvious though on where the ball do lands and sticks out obviously. We might that able to notice it out but this is the only
time it was elaborated.
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Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.
You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.
It won't take long before any casino that is cheating it customers runs out of business because the fastest way for any business to die down is to take what belongs to its customers there is a saying that goes that if you lose one good customer, you are indirectly losing 10 potential customers.

And same rule applies to casinos or other businesses the only time you can see a casino not paying attention to the feelings of their customer is when there are already set out to scam them, and those kinds of casinos are not hard to noticed and from the mood of operations, you can easily identify them and that is how fast the reputation get dented.
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I have no reason to be scared why playing any game in a casino  because I believe  that the casino  wouldn't let a third party game provider to ruine their business name and hence would do some fi dings and auditing on the games before publishing them and that's why it is always good to trust a particular  casino so you wouldn't have to be bothered over some irrugalarities and I'm sure that if at any point an irregularity especially related to cheating is reported to the casino about a third party game and its provider,  there are great chances that the game might be taken down so there isn't any much need to be scared.
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Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.
You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.
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Earlier I was curious about Roulette so that made me enter site to play it.
But it seems that Roulette is a slightly crazy game for now.
The numbers are indeed random, but there are statistics on the percentage of the number column which has a more profitable chance, but the statistics do not really guarantee the number the ball will occupy when it stops.
I played for a while and only saw small wins and no big wins at all for gamblers who also bet there.
Whether this is a pure manipulation game or really clean, I don't know what's clear, if you only have a small balance and can't accept defeat, it's highly not recommended to try this game.

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Thanks for your support mate!

Indeed, I'm tired of watching such videos, and it's even more annoying to see positive reaction to this garbage. 4k likes from losers that can't accept their losses without blaming someone!

And look at the pinned comment to the video:



A winning strategy for a totally luck-based game, FFS! What else do you need to see what kind of guy this RouletteMan is? But, no, some people just choose to be blind.
In a way this makes sense, if people came to accept the fact that they lost the money against a particular casino simply because that is how the games are designed to work and learn to move on, then how those which sell useless strategies are going to make money?

So they need to convince naive players that it is in fact possible to win in a luck based game, and some of the reasons that explain why this has not been the case yet is that they have been cheated and that they have yet to try the strategy they have created, reasons that we know are false but which will resonate with enough people so they keep trying those useless strategies.

Well, before I saw that pinned comment to the video I thought they were just a bunch of idiots on that channel, with another bunch following them. But saying they know how to win in roulette makes them liars, apart from still being idiots, obviously.

There's so little reliable info on gambling anywhere apart from this forum so that people watch and read some total garbage and some of them believe it. It's terrible.
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I watched a youtube video, a guy is showing how live roulette in online casinos scam us. after watching some part of video, i check the comment, and on 4th comment i found this guy telling how they scam us.



Lucky for me because I only choose to play in casino that I trust and also trusted by many and that is what I do believe is great for safeties and not becoming a scam victim.
yes roulette is very easy to manipulate while the video given is indeed reliable , but if we choose to play in casino that care more about their reputation than profit?
then that will never takes place,
Roobet.com is one safe place to play and surely you will never regret playing there.
and also with so many bonuses , events , give away and other stuff that Gamblers or even bitcointalk memers are gaining?
I'm sure that those prototype scamming videos will never takes place .
just be cautious and vigilant and trust me  you will never be a victim ..NEVER!!!
This is certainly not the first time a video have been posted for us to monitored and watch out for scams in gambling. Scams can never be completely eliminated from gaming; every day, we are made aware of a new fraud danger in the area, notably aimed at beginners. These are the ones that are most likely to fall victim to the hoax. I've seen top frauds pointed in my direction, but because to my experience and careful steadiness, I was able to stay out of all of their traps. My colleague was a victim of one of the alluring casino scams because he was too greedy and never accepted for less. Always desperate for additional money from the market, which is not recommended. 
There is no wa that we can eliminate scammers , but the thing is that we can not allow them to victimize many by learning what needs to be done.
scammers are only there if there are willing victims , because why need to deal in not so trusted casino when we can easily join the most trusted sites?
lol better not to deal with them because we are here to win and enjoy and not just to give our money to those scammers .

   -    That's true, amh scammer if he doesn't change, he will still find a way to scam people. That's why we should avoid and be wise in reading the scammer just to get money from other people.

And it's also common that a scammer can't scam a high-reputation casino gambling because they definitely won't be able to prey on it. So what they prefer is that it looks like a legitimate casino but it really isn't.
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Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.
While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.
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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

Wouldn't it be too obvious for small casinos to do this since there will be a lot of incentives for them to do this. Also, most of the small casinos are relatively new, and people are still on the process of reviewing every single detail on the platform and that includes the games, the functionality of the site, and the overall feel of the platform. With big casinos, they can pretty much get away with it although of course the risks are a lot greater for them compared to the small casinos because they can potentially lose a lot more than the small casinos.
Being small or big, its never been that ideal nor wise nor really that ethical on having considerations on rigging up one of your games just to make some advantage against your players or clients who would really be
sooner or later would be able to bust up on what you've been doing on a particular time.Yes, you can cheat but on the time you would get busted then say goodbye into your business.

As of the mindset on having small casinos would be applying such cheat then it would be less likely, they would rather be going on that honest track rather than on being manipulative or cheating.
Some owners would really be having those kind of fear about karma or whatsoever in correlation to this because of none doing good or really that taking advantage of others.
When you do ran up a business then be fair as much as possible and this is where most owners would be getting in line with.
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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.

Wouldn't it be too obvious for small casinos to do this since there will be a lot of incentives for them to do this. Also, most of the small casinos are relatively new, and people are still on the process of reviewing every single detail on the platform and that includes the games, the functionality of the site, and the overall feel of the platform. With big casinos, they can pretty much get away with it although of course the risks are a lot greater for them compared to the small casinos because they can potentially lose a lot more than the small casinos.
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Many will be surprised, but cheating in every Live game! Baccarat, Blackjack and more!
Play for small stakes at the first table. This way you increase your chances of winning.
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I always suspect that some form of manipulation on the balls and the pockets are happening when the high rollers come in. Though for a normal table with low-medium bets, I doubt they’ll risk getting caught as most of these people in this bracket are the ones who are overanalyzing everything. But yeah, it’s not really a shock to me if in case they’re really doing something like this given how sophisticated tech has become and how much money casinos are making to have access to this type of tech and apply it on their games.
Casinos have their own way of doing it that we as gamblers don't need to know, after all it's not something uncommon for casinos to cheat or manipulate games, casinos can earn big money from what they do, I'm not a roulette gambler but I believe that there is interference hands of the casino in roulette and other slot machine games.

I don't want to say much about the casinos that do this because not all casinos are cheating because there are some big casinos that are provably fair so they are more worth playing than the small casinos, sometimes only the small casinos might be able to do that because they want to earn a lot of money from gamblers.
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