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Quote from: danadc on May 31, 2023, 01:38:01 PM

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

I laugh buddy hearing those who call casinos to cheat just because they lose.
Should we are aware that gambling will only provide definite opportunities, namely losing and losing, every gambler must have.
We just try it while we are in gambling, the wins we get and the losses we get, of course, we will get far more losses because no gambler can really beat the house edge.
Maybe wins can often be obtained, but that's just a factor of luck and when luck is gone, I'm sure only defeat is in sight.
If you don't want to lose and just call the casino to cheat because of losing then it's better not to gamble because these kind of people can never survive in gambling.

They are just bad losers, I am pretty sure you have met a lot of them not only in gambling but in life, they are the ones that cannot tolerate things not going their way and they even get mad when losing an insignificant board game or another non-transcendent activity.

So when they lose a lot of money when they gamble, they cannot help but to think that somehow they were cheated and create elaborate conspiracy theories about why this happened to them.

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I think that here those who say that casinos cheat is because they have lost a lot and are not lucky enough when they stop at roulette to play , I think that one of the things is not knowing how to manage the balance they have, and they owe it lose very quickly ,Because it is Impossible that Only a few say that and not the majority , that is already an indication that things are working well, and I am not on the side of the casinos, it is only logical that a casino Always he will have the Advantage , and we as Players will not , we are Constantly Fighting to survive and make some profit apart from having fun.

Yes, right. We'd probably say the casino cheated because we lost. But the defeats we experience are because of our own fault for using too much money so we don't realize that the defeat will happen to us. Even though we have the chance to win, we can still experience defeat so we have to prevent it before it happens. The roulette game is based on luck which can help us win so we don't have to blame the casino if we lose. And when we lose, it's a real defeat that we experience, so we must accept it. If we're just having fun, of course, losing doesn't make us too disappointed because that's the risk.

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Quote from: danadc on May 31, 2023, 01:38:01 PM

Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on May 24, 2023, 07:04:51 AM

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

I laugh buddy hearing those who call casinos to cheat just because they lose.
Should we are aware that gambling will only provide definite opportunities, namely losing and losing, every gambler must have.
We just try it while we are in gambling, the wins we get and the losses we get, of course, we will get far more losses because no gambler can really beat the house edge.
Maybe wins can often be obtained, but that's just a factor of luck and when luck is gone, I'm sure only defeat is in sight.
If you don't want to lose and just call the casino to cheat because of losing then it's better not to gamble because these kind of people can never survive in gambling.

I think that here those who say that casinos cheat is because they have lost a lot and are not lucky enough when they stop at roulette to play , I think that one of the things is not knowing how to manage the balance they have, and they owe it lose very quickly ,Because it is Impossible that Only a few say that and not the majority , that is already an indication that things are working well, and I am not on the side of the casinos, it is only logical that a casino Always he will have the Advantage , and we as Players will not , we are Constantly Fighting to survive and make some profit apart from having fun.

When you are playing on a physical casino then it would really be hard to tell if the casino is cheating but it would really be that impossible that they would really be having that kind of rigging up those balls in roulette. Now that this video is been shared up then for sure those gamblers would already have that kind of idea on which it could possibly happen. So on the time that you had noticed out that there's something wrong, then what would you do?

- Would you shout out and tell that the machine is rigged?
- You would just simply leave out the premises and look for another one?
- Or simply this is just an alibi just because you had lost all of your money?

Proving it out that they are doing shady things isnt something that be easy to be done. You would really be facing up some charges
if ever it was proven out wrong.So its better not to take up such risks and better be quite if ever you do find something odd.
Dont fight on whats on your mind and you would really be just creating much bigger problem.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on May 24, 2023, 07:04:51 AM

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

I laugh buddy hearing those who call casinos to cheat just because they lose.
Should we are aware that gambling will only provide definite opportunities, namely losing and losing, every gambler must have.
We just try it while we are in gambling, the wins we get and the losses we get, of course, we will get far more losses because no gambler can really beat the house edge.
Maybe wins can often be obtained, but that's just a factor of luck and when luck is gone, I'm sure only defeat is in sight.
If you don't want to lose and just call the casino to cheat because of losing then it's better not to gamble because these kind of people can never survive in gambling.

I think that here those who say that casinos cheat is because they have lost a lot and are not lucky enough when they stop at roulette to play , I think that one of the things is not knowing how to manage the balance they have, and they owe it lose very quickly ,Because it is Impossible that Only a few say that and not the majority , that is already an indication that things are working well, and I am not on the side of the casinos, it is only logical that a casino Always he will have the Advantage , and we as Players will not , we are Constantly Fighting to survive and make some profit apart from having fun.

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I laugh buddy hearing those who call casinos to cheat just because they lose.
Should we are aware that gambling will only provide definite opportunities, namely losing and losing, every gambler must have.
We just try it while we are in gambling, the wins we get and the losses we get, of course, we will get far more losses because no gambler can really beat the house edge.
Maybe wins can often be obtained, but that's just a factor of luck and when luck is gone, I'm sure only defeat is in sight.

You will definitely experience a consistent loss if you didn't know to manage your bankroll. It's true that casino has an advantage over players because of house edge but that doesn't mean that our winning percentage on gambling is near to 0% because gambling games offer various winning chance rate. It's up to the user on how they can control their bankroll to manage a casual profit.

If you don't want to lose and just call the casino to cheat because of losing then it's better not to gamble because these kind of people can never survive in gambling.

The chance for a reputable casino to cheat is really low because they don't have any control over the game. The sample video of this specific thread is only possible on the shady provider but the popular roulette provider so far doesn't have this kind of issue. They don't need to resort to this cheap trick to win because they have huge profits on their bankroll from their huge casino wager volume.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on May 24, 2023, 07:04:51 AM

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

I laugh buddy hearing those who call casinos to cheat just because they lose.
Should we are aware that gambling will only provide definite opportunities, namely losing and losing, every gambler must have.
We just try it while we are in gambling, the wins we get and the losses we get, of course, we will get far more losses because no gambler can really beat the house edge.
Maybe wins can often be obtained, but that's just a factor of luck and when luck is gone, I'm sure only defeat is in sight.
If you don't want to lose and just call the casino to cheat because of losing then it's better not to gamble because these kind of people can never survive in gambling.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on May 29, 2023, 04:09:31 PM

Quote from: Desmong on May 29, 2023, 03:21:53 PM

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

That's not entirely correct and I don't agree with that. Not all gambling platforms or casinos cheat their players so that they can get more revenue through the games being played by gamblers. Most reputable casinos, such as Stake, don't really need to cheat the gamblers so that they can earn more because they already earn enough revenue from the platform that they don't need to do it.

Only the new and untrustworthy platforms will think of such negative ways of increasing their earnings from players because they understand that they don't have a user base big enough to earn them a lot of money so they use such methods.

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Quote from: Newlifebtc on May 29, 2023, 04:09:31 PM

Quote from: Desmong on May 29, 2023, 03:21:53 PM

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

That's business. We must know how to choose the right casino, not take risks by playing at suspicious casinos, and have often deceived the players. By searching for a list of casinos from this forum, we can avoid these fraudulent casinos and play gambling safely and comfortably. And we should not use big money in gambling because there is a risk of losing money in gambling. And we also have to be able to control ourselves and not be easily tempted by offers given by casinos, especially new casinos that we don't know about.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on May 10, 2023, 06:57:26 PM

I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.

I think that many are interested in seeing if it can be manipulated, but it is not something viable, we have something in mind, if we pay attention to roulette, we see that everything is more difficult when betting on a number, because it is a lot the possibility that another one comes out, zero, 00, are possible numbers to which you can have access so that you can win, but I think that we as players can take into consideration that playing with the colors increases the chances of winning , I have seen Things like that, of course if you bet on numbers or others, well , at some point you don't have to win, I see that roulette Wheels are good Options for diversification.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 29, 2023, 11:20:10 AM

Well I don't think that casino will start to cheat though, I mean they have the house edge already and in this case in baccarat, there are 36 numbers to choose if there is a single 0 and the odds increases if it is double 00.

And with that, it added the odds on their side if they will do this form of cheating, that's why it is not recommended to play this game although I will admit that I have been playing roulette more often, and I immediately get out once I have won some. But if I will do the month, then I will say that I'm on the losing side as the rest of the gamblers. I just don't think that the casinos is cheating, it's just maybe I was really unlucky that game.

True. Casinos already have the house edge advantage which favours them on long term in a legit way every gamblers are aware about, so why would they still cheat and hurt their reputation and guaranteed income? It doesn't make sense for me... At least regards virtual casinos.

The physical ones I'm not so sure about the concern over their reputation, though, because the main public is composed by elder people who aren't very attentive regards potential manipulation which might be happening on the machines, besides the fact it's also harder to examine and analyze the fairness and legitimacy of games' results than in online casinos where the seed of each bet is public and widely accessed by anyone.

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Quote from: Desmong on May 29, 2023, 03:21:53 PM

Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

there is no casino platform that is hundred percent sincere because all these platforms are casino have two or three ways they manipulate their things in order to ensure that they are asked advantages side of their customers casino platforms does not give you a hundred percent assurance of not binge eating their customers because without cheating of their customer they won't be able to make it their own money so that is the area that I found casino platforms

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Whether casinos are cheating there customers or not we need to know the kind of casino we are using so that we are not going to become a victim of circumstances. There are so many casinos that would want to manipulate things without minding the fate of there customers. Casinos always know how they make there money without anyone knowing.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on May 29, 2023, 01:07:22 AM

Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on May 24, 2023, 07:04:51 AM

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

It's very easy to assume that casinos are cheating on you when you can't experience any wins. Probabilities should be taken on every games that you have played. Maybe at that time, you were on a losing streak. Then when it is time for you to win, you doubted it and not you did not bet. Then you make yourself believe that the house is cheating on you. It is actually you who messed up the positive outcome over a series of trades. That if you just continue betting, you will win.
Some call it luck. But you create your own luck when you stay on a system and let the probabilities play out.

Well I don't think that casino will start to cheat though, I mean they have the house edge already and in this case in baccarat, there are 36 numbers to choose if there is a single 0 and the odds increases if it is double 00.

And with that, it added the odds on their side if they will do this form of cheating, that's why it is not recommended to play this game although I will admit that I have been playing roulette more often, and I immediately get out once I have won some. But if I will do the month, then I will say that I'm on the losing side as the rest of the gamblers. I just don't think that the casinos is cheating, it's just maybe I was really unlucky that game.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on May 24, 2023, 07:04:51 AM

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

It's very easy to assume that casinos are cheating on you when you can't experience any wins. Probabilities should be taken on every games that you have played. Maybe at that time, you were on a losing streak. Then when it is time for you to win, you doubted it and not you did not bet. Then you make yourself believe that the house is cheating on you. It is actually you who messed up the positive outcome over a series of trades. That if you just continue betting, you will win.
Some call it luck. But you create your own luck when you stay on a system and let the probabilities play out.

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Quote from: www.Gambler.Casino on May 24, 2023, 07:04:51 AM

They cheat not only on roulette, but also in Baccarat, Blackjack, wheels.The maps appear to be using computer graphics. I used to play baccarat often and managed to win often. But in the last few years, the balance has completely disappeared. A year ago, I gave up live games, after which I began to withdraw money from the casino often, winning on slots!
Here is a video with proofs - https://youtu.be/21ynUBhBtR0

When you can't get a win from some of the games that you have mentioned, do you assume that gambling sites are deceptive?
You can't say they're cheating just because circumstances change and you can't win them every game anymore.
Maybe luck is not on your side, buddy, so in every game it is more difficult to win.

You win at slot games, it's luck and there are no factors other than luck that can give you a win in every game.

I agree, just because we lose at a specific game we cannot make the conclusion the casino is cheating, that is quite a leap of logic, because as we know we can lose simply because the odds are against us, now if the losses are consistent then some suspicions could be had, but unless there is evidence of any wrongdoing then making those accusations is going too far.

Now demonstrating a casino is cheating is nowhere near as difficult as it may seem, you just need to be ready to collect enough results and make some calculations and see if there is something wrong with the results we have been having.

Though I also started believing this could be scam but just because we saw glitch from one game play we can’t just blame it. The problem with the strategy is really off the record and unproven method so far. The electromagnetism and shit is just technical words they are using due to the fact that they want people to see this is literal serious case. We would never know how it works as long as we do not enter into that system by all ourselves.

Apart from this, even if they are pre-recorded the odds of choosing correct numbers by the computer behind it are too tiny. Casino could end up losing a lot of money. The math doesn’t add up here.

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